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voodooman

Taylor 9.8 Danger Zone

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For those who haven't seen her: How do you hang fenders? better use docks with good padding

 

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anyone heard of it? does it do well?

I saw it racing at the PHRF NE championships in marblehead in 2001. It reminded me of a big skiff. It was fun to watch it start with 50 footers.

 

phrfne 2000

 

phrfne 2001

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Nice beast, someone got pics sailing?

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For those who haven't seen her: How do you hang fenders? better use docks with good padding

 

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Hey - this will give Sportscar some wood

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Fast boat, really high tech, weighs about 2,000 lbs. Drove the raters crazy.....seems like it came in around a zero PHRF, which is not bad for what is essentially a 30-foot boat.

Inshore it would be notably faster than Cone, Farr 36OD, etc and 54 secs/mile faster than a Mumm 30.

I'm still not sure it needed that scoop added (it started life as a 30, and became a 32).... the owners were I believe the same folks who added that scoop to the modified Farr 36 when it was "Boys are Back in Town." They are damn good racers, but I don't think that scoop did anything for the Farr boat so it makes me suspicious about this one.

Believe it was donated to one of the maritime schools at some point and then sold at auction....if that worked out as scheduled someone likely got a hell of a deal on a really really extraordinary boat.

It does evoke the Moore 30 and Kiwi 35, but they are pigs in comparison, and two design generations older.

There is no substitute for radically light displacement.

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The boat is currently at Davis Island Yacht Club in Tampa.

It's not as active as it was a couple of years ago, but still gets out now and then.

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looks a bit like an older version of OUT 95 to me

narrow at the waterline, but extremely wide.

 

 

Same concept, but the Out is fugly, this Taylor has nice shape

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Same concept, but the Out is fugly, this Taylor has nice shape

 

:lol: :lol:

 

is fugly a common word it Italy ??

 

agree the wings are blended in fairly well

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Hey - this will give Sportscar some wood

 

We had 17 years of great fun with our boat built 1987/8 along similar lines but at nearly twice the weight of DZ. We knew about DZ a while ago but haven't been able to find out much about her. The winged deck is an interesting concept - great in some conditions and not so great in others.

 

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For those who haven't seen her: How do you hang fenders? better use docks with good padding
This boat was built for a car dealer in Marblehead, MA.

 

To keep it alongside a dock, or on a mooring, two large diameter mooring balls were put under the "wings" (which are removable for trailering).

 

The boat had a distinctly checkered racing career. In light air and waves, the wings would catch on quartering waves and it was a very unhappy, if all-star - crew. As you can imagine, if the breeze perked up and there was a reaching leg, they would obliterate everyone. I believe one year it won the Figawi race, which is usually a reach. Mass Bay PHRF reuires boats to meet ORC 4 regulations, and I always wondered how they achieved that one! It was generally towed out to the course and back with a RIB.

 

It was listed for sale in FL, recently. If you had a team of athletic sailmakers at your disposal, and the local PHRF committe had a sense of humor

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This boat was built for a car dealer in Marblehead, MA.

 

I remember boats called "Dervish". Welcome to SA and more importantly welcome back to sailing (see you've bought a Melgus). We've missed you.

 

There was "Danger Zone" and then there was also of course its little sister "Baby Zone".

 

We met the original owner of DZ at the Annapolis Boat Show last fall when he wandered up to the Vipes to say hello. He has retired from full time racing but he currently satisfies his "need for speed" with a high tech' very fast looking cruising multihull. I guess this is someone who lives by the motto of "Just Say No to Going Slow"

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This boat as found a home in New Orleans with a rating of -24. Looks like a machine for off the wind sailing. Don't know how it will do around the cans though.

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We had 17 years of great fun with our boat built 1987/8 along similar lines but at nearly twice the weight of DZ. We knew about DZ a while ago but haven't been able to find out much about her. The winged deck is an interesting concept - great in some conditions and not so great in others.

 

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Sportscar was up at Airlie Beach a couple of years ago with the wings chopped off (can't recall the new name) - definitely looked "handicapped".

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For sure a speed boat, anybody know when it was built? For sale ad says 2003 but apparently was raced in 2001 so one of the two are not possible..... Thx

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I understand they used to sit on the start line with one wing in the water until the gun went off, then roll it up and go.

 

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It's fun looking at those PHRF results from 2000 and 2001, seeing which boats are the same and which have changed in the past 10 years.

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