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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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Sailingkid

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Thanks for the comments Shu. I've elected to go with the single string rig, since my little brother and I now weigh 190kgs+ (we're not very little anymore), and having sailed a 12 foot skiff for a while, this things never going to match it so I'll just have a fun little hiking/trap boat.

 

We're getting to the fit out now, reusing as many of the old blocks where possible. However, one that has me thinking is how to run the mainsheet. I've got the traveller back on, but I can't figure out how to tack with the mainsheet coming off the floor, as the traveller gets in the way if you tack behind the traveller. However if you tack where the mainsheet take off is on the floor, your tiller arm will hit the mainsheet where it goes through the traveller...The obvious soloution is to take it off the boom 29er style, running it through the traveller last. Will that work? Just wondering how they did it back in the 70's if anyone remembers. I've attached a pic if that helps.

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In the UK folks were taking the mainsheet off the boom in Cherubs long before 29ers existed. I can't remember whether we nicked the idea of the Aussies or the Kiwis. Flat Stanley (1980 world Champ and a modified Murray) used a stern bridle with the mainsheet run forward along to the boom and then down to a block on a beam in roughly traveller position. So the 29er style system is not madly incongruous on your boat. I'd just centre the traveller and leave it, they were going out of fashion fast in the late 70s. You certainly need to have it in place: its very structural!

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Jim, the Aus cherubs nowadays have evolved well past bethwaite, although the Wop/Foreign Affair influenced high topsides are still evident. Most new Aus cherubs are Matthews hulls which have a very distinct turn in the chine and very straight forward and aft sections, very flat rocker and bottom as well, in fact aus cherubs have almost been one designed by the matthews shape, much the same as the thorpe hungry tiger hulls were the "standard" for quite a while in moths.

 

Speaking of UK cherubs Jim, the former worlds winning UK rules boat Sports Cherub 2667 (is on ebay at the moment for AU$1500... now called Blonde Ambition. Interested anyone?

Back on Fleabay: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12ft-skiff-with-extras-as-shown-/111141645594

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So after 6 years and 6 months or 2391 Days, a 29er, 3 A class cats and a Moth I got around to getting the Cherub in the water. Lost another year looking for sails, which were eventually sourced in better then average condition on Gumtree from a guy in Adelaide who didn't know what they were and was going to throw them in the bin. I'm told they won a nationals once.

 

There was a light northerly blowing so we were a bit underpowered with our 215kg crew weight, but if you put the centreboard down all the way you end up with a bit of power. It came in at around 15-18 for a while and the boat went alright. The rudder gudgeons lost a bolt which let a fair bit of water in. The cockpit layout makes no sense, the travellers in a shocking position. But besides that its all good. Next move is to fit the bowsprit/kite.

 

 

 

 

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There are few things more expensive than a free boat. Great thread, glad you kept at the project until completion. Its cool you saved a classic dinghy from the landfill... hope you enjoy sailing it, and perhaps you'll even introduce your future kids to sailing in it.

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Congratulations. Nice looking boat. You scored on the sails, they look quite good. 215 Kg on a cherub is quite high. You could probably single hand this in most conditions.

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