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MR.CLEAN

Day 3, With Three Races On Call

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Here's my release for Sevenstar SLAM Racing:

 

MELGES 24 WORLDS OFF TO FRUSTRATING START FOR FLEET

 

PORTO CERVO, ITA (3 June 2008) - Days 1 and 2 of the Volvo Melges 24 World Championship suffered from fickle and even non-existent breeze, with two fluky races on Sunday and none yesterday. A local yacht captain gave the most common of comments from the course: "This is not normal conditions for here." It certainly wan't "normal" to see the fleet hoisting spinnakers to reach the weather mark, yet that's precisely what happened during one of Sunday's races.

 

"I think we were very lucky," said Stefano Ciampalini, trimmer aboard 'Pilot Italia', which is leading the fleet with a 2,1 scoreline. Luck certainly played a big factor, though Pilot Italia displayed more than just luck in their three-bullet performance in the Pre-Worlds. "A good start is the most important part of this race when the wind is shifty - you must have the ability to tack freely that only comes from a good start," commented Ciampalini.

 

Bizarre conditions on Sunday sent many of the top boats into the middle of the fleet, including GBR 592 - 'Sevenstar SLAM'. "We had two good starts, but getting on the wrong side of a couple of shifts lost us quite a few places," commented skipper Simon Strauss. "Still, that's two races of a 12-race series, so we're not getting down on ourselves." Strauss, with double World Champion Bill Hardesty calling tactics, lies in 38th place, and they have plenty of company, with top Melges 24 teams littering the middle of the leader board. Many competitors picked for a possible podium finish have already sailed their throwout race, with former World Champ Nicola Celon aboard MARCHINGENIO in 56th, Gabrio Zandona aboard Joe Fly in 45th, Gabrielle Benussi on Alfa Spider in 29th, top Corinthian competitor Bruce Ayres and Monsoon in 40th, and Laser SB3 European Champ Geoff Carveth on Code Zero in 34th. Both Alina Helly Henson (Luca Valerio) and Saetta (Nicolo Bianchi) scored first place finishes in one race on Monday only to finish in 27th and 30th place respectively in the other of the day's two races.

 

BETTER CONDITIONS LIKELY FOR REMAINDER OF WEEK

 

PRO Peter Reggio has already decided to shoot for three races on Tuesday to gain back time lost yesterday, and with more stable winds from the West already blowing across Marina Porto Cervo, more consistent racing looks likely for the fleet as they work to qualify for Gold fleet ahead of the fleet splits on Wednesday. Forecasts for the region differ though, with some calling for the establishment of a strong Mistral sometime late Wednesday. Regardless of the forecast, one thing is certain in this fleet: The competition will be heating up substantially going into the splits on Wednesday, with many of the top Melges 24 teams likely to be fighting not just for a top 10 finish, but also to qualify in the Gold Fleet.

 

 

 

I'm headed to the dock now to clean the bottom of the boat - back in an hour or two with all the action, live. Thanks for watching!

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We're just leaving the apartment now. We'll post the five videos I shot this morning when we get on the boat. Wind has picked up further, and we're currently looking at 12-15 knots of offshore breeze right now. Should be postcard perfect today, and we will get you tons of good info. Thanks for watching, and please be sure to send the link to the coverage to anyone you know who might find it interesting.

 

Also, thanks a ton to Ullman Sails for supporting On-The-Water Anarchy and bringing this coverage to you all, and to Joe Fly Sailing Team for the excellent technical support.

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First morning video - Jacques Clean-steau looks for the elusive speed-sucking barnacle.

 

 

Another Interview - not sure which one.

 

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Chicks rock. This is "Pearl," the only boat with three giirls on board. Good stuff. My mistake regarding female helms - there apparently is one german girl driving 008, and I'll talk to her later this week.

 

 

More:

 

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Federico Michetti, manager of Uka Uka racing and head of Melges Europe, speaks.

 

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Uka Uka is in ninth, with Lorenzo Brassani at the helm and Francisco Bruni on tactics.

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White and Orange fleets are on our course B, with Hank Stuart, PRO. We are in going into the warning now.

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2 miles, 280 degrees, four legs. wind is steady at 12-15 knots, just in planing range for W/L racing. Should be damned exciting today.

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keep at it clean - you are a bit early in the am for the NA readers, but I am 3 hours ahead of you - and now the sheikhs brother has died (crashed his helicoptor - three days mourning - possibly no beer)

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a recall...my my..how surprising is that !!

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And another general recall! Fun videos loading now. This RC is going to have a tough time getting in three if they can't get the fleet off cleanly.

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it is my opinion that the black flag of death should be used on all starts...i hate recalls....!

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They shut that start down for a ten degree shift. New course is 290. Kinda confusing why they're restarting after that one.

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10 degress...bet it shifts back....

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We're having a little issue with the other press boat...Luca, owner of Sailrev.tv, is pissed that we're getting too close to them. They're in a RIB, we're in a 42 foot cruiser...might makes right!

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Mr Clean

 

let us know if anyone is trying a port end flyer !!

 

Shark

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They are still not going black flag - Black in Yellow is up though.

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why to they have an aversion to going to straight black first start ??......everyone knows the score....oh yes and have ocs as a counter..LOL...you dont get many recalls that way

 

shark

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THis is the second false start - some nice screaming and bumping here:

 

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why to they have an aversion to going to straight black first start ??......everyone knows the score....oh yes and have ocs as a counter..LOL...you dont get many recalls that way

 

shark

It's still early - look for the BFD to come out if it has to. Clarke/Kotoun won the right, steaming out here with us on the wing. THe body of the fleet is on the left though - we'll see what happens.

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i have watched a few races from a boat and you can see the diffrent angles and you look at them and think "tack..tack..your on a header..."...its always way easier when you not sailing..LOL

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Clarke/Kotoun won the boat, but the entire fleet has peeled off to the left. Joe Fly, Pilot Italia in the middle right, JF just ahead of PI. Important stuff, this.

 

Interestingly, after six races (tomorrow morning) they will probably have to send the fleet in so they can be split into gold and silver, then back out again to race 7 and 8.

 

 

This course, in this breeze, is a huge tactical mess due to the geography of the land that's funneling the wind. The mark is in the shadow of a few 200-foot hills off the beach, beautiful but hazardous to one's racing health...

 

This is called "caprera" at the corner of Garibaldi Island.

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i have watched a few races from a boat and you can see the diffrent angles and you look at them and think "tack..tack..your on a header..."...its always way easier when you not sailing..LOL

That's for sure - much easier. Still, it's sometimes a lot easier to see what's happening from here, where we can see every boat from a height of eye of 12 feet or so, than from the cockpit of a m-24.

 

Real start vid nearly done...

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Here's the real start, finally!

 

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As our driver predicted, the left side PAID, big time.

 

We're at the top mark now - boats coming in five minutes or so.

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any sign of geoff carveth..??...sailed agaisnt him for many years, and slept on his floor !

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Here's that pre-race report from the course.

 

 

And here's that false start - the first one.

 

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Top Mark Roundings amidst screaming and banging

 

1) Helly Hanson

SIM ONLINE

Pilot Italia

Betty Ford

Marchinerigo

Cotes Darmour

Altea

Blow (nice name)

ZUxu

585

Joe Fly

*From blow to Joe Fly was a huge mess that you'll see on video shortly.

Terra Firma

MACS

ODe to Martin

Sweaty Betty

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Holy crap what a nutty rounding. Active jury boat whistling, but no paint traded this time. I have a feeling the jury will be busy tonight.

 

Roundings coming up.

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26 minutes for the upwind leg, 9 minutes downwind. Here's the leeward mark rounding.

 

 

Helly Hanson

Online SIM

Cotes D'armour

Pilot Italia (to the right mark)

Altea

Westaway sails - after being 19TH at the windward mark

Marchinaero (CELON)

Blow

Betty Ford

MACS

Acqua

O Tomate

Sweaty Betty

Terra whatever

Joe Fly

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nutty mark rounding.....pictures or it didnt happen..lol...that a joke btw !

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The real action at the windward mark - slam, bam, thank you maam!

 

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We know we're a bit slow on pics, but Mer's just got too damned many. They're coming :)

 

Top mark coming up now.

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port lay lines....you gotta love um....joe fly...didnt want to take just there..should have taken another transom !!

 

shark

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FInal Mark Rounding

 

Helly Hanson

OnlineSIM

Pilot Italia

Altea

Cotes Darmour

Westaway

Terra whatever

Marchinero

Blow

Joe Fly

Acqua

Torpyone

Sweaty Betty

Mallnose

Profils (from way out in left field.)

 

Go the fly!

 

port lay lines....you gotta love um....joe fly...didnt want to take just there..should have taken another transom !!

 

shark

No doubt. But JF doing a sick job getting boats back.

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you are doing a stunning job out there in the sun watching sailing..)

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Finish race 3

 

ALina Helly Hanson

Altea

Pilot Italia

Cotes D'armour

Westaway

Machingenio

Terra whatever

Joe Fly

BLOW

9 - don't know

Acqua

ONLINE SIM

Sweaty Betty

MELLNOSE

Toryone

O Tomate

Profils

Eta Beta

Sevenstar SLAM

MACS

 

 

you are doing a stunning job out there in the sun watching sailing..)

I know, it's a bitch ain't it?

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yes ..here i am pretending to work in cloudy bristol in the uk....drinking tea....hard life...apprantly some people are doing some real work.....i kid you not..)

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Mer's outdone herself for this one. Unbelievable pics, judge for yourself.

 

 

 

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The Ukrainian boat is back at the dock with a mainsheet issue, while Casa Padova has a man up the mast.

 

Just dropped off press officer and sexy Irish lass Jill Campbell on shore, racing to get back on station at 35 knots. Bumpy.

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FInal mark rounding from Race 3 before the finish. Good stuff.

 

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Pollard on Excellent is really doing a great job so far - the class of the non-italian boats. He's got Micky Schwartz on the boat, and my blonde South African assistant today tells me that he's also a South African by birth, rigger, german passport, married to an Englishwoman, living in Torquay. Like all the Excellent boys, he knows how to party big time.

 

Speaking of parties, we had a chance to chat with Jill about the frankly terrible party situation here in Porto Cervo. One top competitor told me yesterday, "when we get off the water, it feels like we're not even at an event."

 

More on that later.

 

Finish Videos

 

 

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Casa Padova fixing broken shit to get back out...

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Some photos from a secret helper ashore.

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We're on Course A now, Luigi's course with Black and White fleets competing. Two boats called back, but otherwise the guys are off. Mallnose was one of the boats called OCS. As we race to the top mark, we've got our fleet on our left, and the other fleet on the right, like we're walking down an aisle of Melgi.

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Pretty interesting to see how very favored the left is in this breeze. It's like there is just no right side of the course at all.

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Race 4 start.

 

 

 

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melgi to the right of him.....melgi to the left

onward rode the 500

into the valley of the windward mark

 

crap i know..sorry

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We're now at the top mark of Course A - finally getting a chance to see Blu Moon (Flavio Favini, Titiano Navi), Uka Uka, and some of the other top boats. Mark rounding ahead.

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Top Mark rounding - Go Sevenstar! I knew they'd find their speed.

 

1) Blu Moon

2) Marchinego

Sevenstar SLAM

Uka Uka

Brontolo

Barbarians

Aqua Racing

Profils

Westaway

Naftalina

Gulisara

Masmantes

Wolant

Terra whatever

02

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Amazing - Blu Moon leads into the gate, with a gorgeous leeward drop, and one litle piece of kite gets in the water, and the whole thing goes under the boat. Still, they only lost two positions...

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Bottom Mark:

 

Blu Moon

Marhinegiaro

Uka Uka

Sevenstar SLAM

Barbarians

Brontolo

Profils

Gullisana

Terra whatever

Westaway

Aqua Racing

Code Zero (Carveth)

Joe Fly

Masmantes

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Top mark got brutal - Hyde sails caught the mark, lots of screaming seems normal now, wind gusts ripping through the fleet at 25 knots or so. Here's some video.

 

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You're not making it easy for me to get any work done today, you bastard! Great work...keep it up.

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You're not making it easy for me to get any work done today, you bastard! Great work...keep it up.

 

That's why my boss disabled watching video's. The ...

 

I should have been there!

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You're not making it easy for me to get any work done today, you bastard! Great work...keep it up.

Thanks bro. Love to you and the naptown boyz...from Mer.

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Top Mark:

 

Blu Moon

Uka Uka

Machinigeo

Sevenstar

Brontalo

Barbarians

Gullisara

Profils

Joe Fly

Terra

Torpyone

Westaway

 

Blu Moon wiped out, luffed up by Uka Uka, and lost their lead, Barbarians kite just erupted, remaineder is two much smaller kites in neon pink.

 

 

Correction: NOT BARBARIANS. It was another neon pink kite...sweet - I like those dudes.

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FINISH:

 

First three we are not positive about, but we think it is:

 

Uka Uka

Blu Moon

Marchingenio

Sevenstar SLAM

Brontalo

Barbarians

Gulisara

Joe Fly

Profil

Westaway

Torpyone

Terra whatever

Riverstone

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Longer bottom mark action

 

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Alrrighjt ladies and gents - there's one more race today, and while our video from the last top mark and pictures from the whole race load...grab some coffee and sit down to enjoy today's coverage, brought to you by Ullman Sails. For you unregistered folks - you're missing out. You see filenames where everyone else sees pictures. Register now and see what you're missing.

 

Cheers.

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The depth here is nearly 100 meters, and the RC boats have massive chain rodes, with chain and grapnels for the buoys. The round robin system is producing some weird results today - with some fleets having to sail between the two courses for all three races. Definitely some unfairness in the system with one fleet having to bash 3 miles to windward just in time for their next race...

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Hi Mr Clean, here is an italian following your forum. But... I cannot see your videos! Why?

Ciao

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Not sure Anto - you can go to this link at youtube to see all of them in a bigger window. And thanks for watching!

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Ah ok now it is clear. My administrator doesn´t allow me to see you-tube.

Shame. But I will follow the races with the posts.

Ciao, thanks and have fun

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No mention of Full Throttle. Are they on the other course?

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Glad someone found Mickey Shwartz.....know the kid from way back in digs days in South Africa......one hell of a bowman.......and partier.........Go the Mouse!

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No mention of Full Throttle. Are they on the other course?

 

It seems only one course is covered at a time. FT must be on the other course. I see they finished 2nd in the first race today. As of now, no finishes are posted for the 2nd race.

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Pics up. We're in attention for Race 5. Races moved up an hour tomorrow.

 

Correction for Race 4: Marchengenio, Uka Uka, Blu Moon, Sevenstar

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Here's that video from the last top mark of Race 4.

 

 

24 knots from Uka Uka's tender, getting to be closer to survival for some teams.

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So that's what heaven looks like.

I think heaven might cost less, but yeah - it's pretty incredible. We're mighty lucky just to be here, though today is the first day that I really wish we were racing.

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Bow number 115 - Atena, from Slovakia, is getting towed home. Not sure what's up, but it's blowing sphincters out here. Start video is loading, seemed like every Ullman racer was at the pin for this one. Estonians won it, but were OCS and had to go back. We were a good 60 meters from the pin but the RC was screaming at us to get away...not sure what's up with that. Helos overhead now, this is about as pretty as it gets.

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Results are up, Throttle has a 2 in race 3, 13 in race 4 and is in 3rd. Have no idea how to put the link in but it's on the bottom of page 1 Day 1.

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Our buddy Carlo is now in 45th, must be stoked to get into the gold fleet, which is where he's headed at the current pace. Sevenstar and Joe Fly both moved up significantly. Check out the official results up now.

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Mr Clean

 

try and get an interview with Geoff Carveth, really nice bloke, he is a carpenter and builds sets ( or used to) at pinewood studios near london

 

always used to go to open meeting and sleep in the bcak of his acient volvo estate

 

always a a good yachter, one of those blokes who always pops out at the first mark, sailed Enterprises for years, 14ft dinghy with blue sails

 

shark

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Start of Race 5, with me complaining to the RC about being so far from the line. Kind of par for the course for us, I guess. It's actually interesting how a bunch of racing sailors talk smack to each other when they're on press boats just as they would on race boats. The RC, marshals, and all the press sort of lobby each other to get the best pics. The worst I've seen is Key West, but I've never been press at an AC event yet...

 

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Mr Clean

 

try and get an interview with Geoff Carveth, really nice bloke, he is a carpenter and builds sets ( or used to) at pinewood studios near london

 

always used to go to open meeting and sleep in the bcak of his acient volvo estate

 

always a a good yachter, one of those blokes who always pops out at the first mark, sailed Enterprises for years, 14ft dinghy with blue sails

 

shark

No worries Shark - I poked some fun at Geoff in one of the rounding videos, but that was just me screwing with the Laser SB3 guys on this board. HE seems fast, but not near the top of this fleet...I think Miles Quentin, sailing with Carveth, is the North Sails guy from the UK, is that right?

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No worries Shark - I poked some fun at Geoff in one of the rounding videos, but that was just me screwing with the Laser SB3 guys on this board. HE seems fast, but not near the top of this fleet...I think Miles Quentin, sailing with Carveth, is the North Sails guy from the UK, is that right?

 

 

LOL..i heard..pissed myself laughing when you called yourself a dick.,....no offence..)

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there is a lot of flapping mains on that vid....teach them sails a leason..lol....sail mr ullman will be busy

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No worries Shark - I poked some fun at Geoff in one of the rounding videos, but that was just me screwing with the Laser SB3 guys on this board. HE seems fast, but not near the top of this fleet...I think Miles Quentin, sailing with Carveth, is the North Sails guy from the UK, is that right?

 

 

Well according to Google hes either a sex offender from MN or a animator from the UK, take your pic.

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No worries Shark - I poked some fun at Geoff in one of the rounding videos, but that was just me screwing with the Laser SB3 guys on this board. HE seems fast, but not near the top of this fleet...I think Miles Quentin, sailing with Carveth, is the North Sails guy from the UK, is that right?

 

 

dont know miles....i only know paul hobson from north....known as chimp...top bloke to

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Notice from the results, not a single boat from the Southern Hemisphere :(

 

A few boats down here in Oz Land now and with our strong SB tradition it would be nice to see a few there next time ;)

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Shit - we're already at the top mark of the other course...it's on...here are some pics.

 

Gettin' busy here!

 

Sevenstar in first place!

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great job clean! can't load the vids at work but will tonight when I get home. It must suck to be u!

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Shit - we're already at the top mark of the other course...it's on...here are some pics.

 

Gettin' busy here!

 

Sevenstar in first place!

 

 

Awesome pics Mer

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Top mark, race 5, course Alpha

 

 

1) Blu Moon

Uka Uka

Alina HH

Brantolo

Ullisara

Eta Beta

Pilot Italia (regatta leader)

Sweden 735 (lost kite after rounding)

EuroVoile

Monsoon

Aqua Racing

Rocard Racing

Team Barbarians

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Top Mark for the other course, where we just ran over to catch them...

 

1) Sevenstar

2) Joe Fly

Poizon Rouge

Fishdog

Saetta

Marchingenio

Full Throttle

Burgyes Telecom

Zigzag

Blow

Online SIM

Alpha Spider

Terra whatever

Mallnose

Westaway

Cote D'armour

Lenny

Naftalina

Profil

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Thanks Billy - glad you guys are enjoying it.

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Rough day at the office...

 

This is my morning routine: Dive boat, come back to apartment and have coffee, start OTW report, go on boat. Sometime in there I change out of my wetsuit and clean the funky death from my ears. In fact, if I don't go home with an ear infection I'll be shocked.

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Just a few pics for you from the other course, we're back on course Alpha now for the top mark, then we'll go to Bravo for their finish.

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