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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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MR.CLEAN

Day 6 - It's All Down To This

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The last time they'll cross the line!

 

 

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And - YOUR NEW MELGES 24 WORLD CHAMPION!

 

LORENZO BRESSANI

FRANCESCO BRUNI

FEDERICO MICHETTI

FRANCESA PRINA

AND OWNER LORENZO SANTINI

 

CONGRATULATIONS FROM SAILING ANARCHY!!!

 

 

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Congratz to Monsoon - USA 637. 22nd overall and 2nd place Corinthian.

 

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Alright folks - we are off to do some interviewing and other schlocky work, so be sure to check back later for all that, including the third part of our interview with Giovanni Maspero, and much more.

 

Thanks so much for watching - this has been so much fun I can't even tell you. Enjoy.

 

And go click on Ullman Sails a few hundred times for us...Cheers!

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Mr. Clean and team. Thanks for doing an outstanding job on the 2008 Melges worlds in Italy!! You made this week bearable, not being able to be there. Love the vids and the commentary. Again, GREAT JOB!!!

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Alright folks - we are off to do some interviewing and other schlocky work, so be sure to check back later for all that, including the third part of our interview with Giovanni Maspero, and much more.

 

Thanks so much for watching - this has been so much fun I can't even tell you. Enjoy.

 

And go click on Ullman Sails a few hundred times for us...Cheers!

 

Clean, thank you so much to you and Mer for the AMAZING coverage this week. BTW, does anyone care to comment on a disappointing result for Full Throttle. After almost winning last year, I'm sure they expected to do much better. Maybe the Italians are just that much better!

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Clean, thank you so much to you and Mer for the AMAZING coverage this week. BTW, does anyone care to comment on a disappointing result for Full Throttle. After almost winning last year, I'm sure they expected to do much better. Maybe the Italians are just that much better!

 

 

Broken bow sprit, penalty turns, etc... We should be saying what a great job they did in recovering. An obvious disappointment, no doubt, but that is sailboat racing. I would, however, like to hear more on the comment earlier about the possible different sails the italians have vs. the way the sails are in the US. Is this, or can this, be substaniated?? Nevertheless, the Italians have raised the bar in this class. We all have seen it coming. As strong as they have been the past couple of years, it was just a matter of time. As for Full Throttle, every year, they are in the hunt, can't say that about any other US team. GO FT. See ya in Pewaukee.

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Broken bow sprit, penalty turns, etc... We should be saying what a great job they did in recovering. An obvious disappointment, no doubt, but that is sailboat racing. I would, however, like to hear more on the comment earlier about the possible different sails the italians have vs. the way the sails are in the US. Is this, or can this, be substaniated?? Nevertheless, the Italians have raised the bar in this class. We all have seen it coming. As strong as they have been the past couple of years, it was just a matter of time. As for Full Throttle, every year, they are in the hunt, can't say that about any other US team. GO FT. See ya in Pewaukee.

 

Agreed, FT is one of the best if not the best team in the US and deserve much credit. However it seems the Italians are on a different wavelength. I'm guessing we'll see more of them in Annapolis next year vs. in Santa Cruz. Since the majority of the sails were North as this event I'd be interested in what the differences are, if any between US Norths and ITA Norths.

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Clean, thank you so much to you and Mer for the AMAZING coverage this week. BTW, does anyone care to comment on a disappointing result for Full Throttle. After almost winning last year, I'm sure they expected to do much better. Maybe the Italians are just that much better!

 

Clean thanks (once I found out where to find the threads - doh)

 

Yes the European fleet is very strong, you don't have to get it that wrong in a big competitve fleet like this to slide down - anyway they are 8th, all Italians above except Blue Moon .. that's still a great result

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Thanks for the great coverage, Clean and Mer!

(and of course the drivers, and sponsors!)

It has been great fun!

 

Sometime when you're feeling analytical, would you care to speculate what separated the top teams from the rest?

 

Another question - how many rigs were lost? - given the conditions, did that amount of gear breakage seem excessive?

Just wondering...

 

Thanks again...

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Agreed, FT is one of the best if not the best team in the US and deserve much credit. However it seems the Italians are on a different wavelength. I'm guessing we'll see more of them in Annapolis next year vs. in Santa Cruz. Since the majority of the sails were North as this event I'd be interested in what the differences are, if any between US Norths and ITA Norths.

 

 

Not sure about the sails, I did have some Norths from the UK that were definitely a little flatter. I think one of the biggest advantages is things like the Volvo Cup where the teams get together regularly and race against each other. In the US there is always so much distance involved for all the top teams to meet and race, that has got to be a disadvantage.

 

Clean and Mer as always you two have done a great job giving us a flavor of the Worlds out there, amazing coverage and hope the rest of the European road trip is a ton of fun for you.

 

Cheers

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all Italians above except Blue Moon ..

 

actually, at least 3 out of five, on Blu Moon, are are Italians (helmsman Flavio Favini, Tiziano Nava and Stefano Rizzi).

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Clean thanks (once I found out where to find the threads - doh)

 

Yes the European fleet is very strong, you don't have to get it that wrong in a big competitve fleet like this to slide down - anyway they are 8th, all Italians above except Blue Moon .. that's still a great result

 

BLUE MOON IS ITALIAN AS MUCH AS ALL THE OTHERS ONLY HAVE 'SUI' ON THE SAIL

 

WELL DONE MR CLEAN AMAZING JOB

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Guys - thanks for the comments. Seriously, it means a lot to us. We have had the time of our lives, but we've also worked from 7 in the morning until 3 in the morning most days, so we're understandably a bit frazzled. I'm sure your questions will get answered sooner or later, especially as most of the racers here will be reading each and every one of these threads when they get home to their comfy internet connections.

 

I've got a good interview with Lorenzo Bressani, and with Federico Michetti, off the winning boat, as well as a long interview with both Knut Forstad, CEO of the Volvo Race, and the Italian marketing guy for Volvo. I'm also going to do a few down at the party with Porter, and maybe Andy about their uncharacteristically bad performance and when the hell we're gonna see some pics of the finished 20, and maybe go for a sail.

 

I'll get them done and up as soon as I can - a few in just a half hour or so. The rest will have to wait until I've slept off my hangover.

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Thanks for doing this. Awesome. The coverage has been great to watch. Just a quick question: the boats seem to have mammoth amounts of twist in the mains downwind. I've never seen anything like this much before. What's the reason for this?

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Nice Job Clean and Mer! Thanks for the excellent coverage and entertainment. You are right- this is establishing the foundation for covering sailing events in the future. Thanks to Ullman for making it possible.

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Fantastic. Great job Clean, Mer and the rest of the gang!!! Thanks. Besides the video, commentary and pictures, really liked that OTW interview with Hutch!

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BTW annapolis boys: The folks I spoke to are very happy to hear that you have the party situation under control for Worlds next year. I hope NAs is a bit of a trial horse.

 

That's the plan...for both on and off the water.

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Well Meredith and MR Clean: what you produced has proven to be very addictive. I think you are setting new standards of online race coverage. It was terrible fun to follow. Only my stupid boss prevented me from watching the videos straight away and I had to wait till I was home to do so. Maybe better because I still got the job now..

 

Really exciting stuff and I expect with new technologies this way of covering races will get even more close and life. This is the future.

 

And the event: stop taling about the parties: the sailing was awesome. I wished I was there doing 20 knots around the cans.

 

A huge thanks again and tell me when you will be passing Holland. You are welcome.

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Clean! Many, many thanx for the best report i've ever seen in real-time: well done. Hope, all wet asses are ok and damages happend to equipment only. Was all the time breathless, crossing my fingers for the germans and especially for the italian sailmaker guy - Pablo made the fastest sails for me. Respect for his 23th.

Your Vids are real-time documents without euphemizing. Thats great.

The M24 class shows how it works: performance, publicity, fun and a lot of work money ;) .

SA shows a tremendous coverage and got a lot of interests. Thanx to Ullman and Joe Fly for supporting this.

 

Enjoy the party and the travel thru Europe, give us more interviews and reports!

Servus,

Christian

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Yeah, superior job Clean et al.. Really great job all around.

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Clean, that Brian Hutchinson video interview was awesome and was so useful. It looks like I have some M24 work to do over the next few weeks. Damn you are over there watching the class that is the shit, and I am sitting here waiting 6 weeks so that my fucking arms heal after breaking them getting off the boat. Anyway keep up the good work this was defiantly worth it, I have yet to see any footage of M24 racing nearly as useful.

 

Now to study for those Fucking SATs

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Holy crap my head hurts. That was a hell of a night.

 

Here's part 3 of our interview with Giovanni Maspero.

 

 

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Lorenzo Bressani, on the dock after his win.

 

 

Federico Michetti, World Champion forward hand:

 

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Knut Forstad, CEO of the Volvo Ocean Race, talks about the new race, the new website, and Sailing Anarchy.

 

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Roberto Lonardi, PR dude from Volvo Italy. Don't knock the vid till you've watched the whole thing - that new Volvo is very damned cool.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks, Clean, et. al., Ed, and Ullman.

 

What happened to that last vid?

 

Man, did anyone else have trouble with the video quality on the Knut video?

 

(nice job embedding the vids too!)

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Thanks nroose. When I have a little time and a good connection, I'll put all the videos in one thread and make sure they all work. In the meantime, you might get better results going to our youtube page and watching them there. www.youtube.com/blocksail I think, or just type "Blocksail" into the youtube search window.

 

BTW, I'm back on the Vacation thread. I'll be updating stuff there. We somehow stumbled upon the 470 Europeans in Garda on the way north, and the girls I shot there made Porto Cervo look like a livestock auction. Go the 470 chicks. Stay tuned for that action tonight or tomorrow.

 

Cheers

 

AL

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470 chicks are the best. I remember the first Euro 470 event I did, first practice day it was blowing 20+ and there was this petite little dutch girl out on the water who looked like she needed a sandwich before she wasted away. We (2 strapping blokes) lined up alongside to test our speed and she handed us our arses big time. Like going 20% faster than us upwind. Unbelievable it was.

 

Also, if you sail 470s for long enough, you will at some point get to see some tits in the dinghy park when the chicks get changed by their boats.

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Roberto Lonardi, PR Manager for Volvo Italy, talks about a sweet new tow vehicle from Volvo, the VOR, and sailing sponsorship. Nice guy.

 

 

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And here's that interview with Knut Forstad that was crappy the last time I loaded it.

 

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And here's the final part of our interview with Giovanni Maspero, owner of Joe Fly.

 

 

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Laura Muma shot some good footage from Worlds, and here's a montage of it.

 

 

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