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Having been drinking since 1 PM, I figured if I didn't start this thread now, I'd never do it. I need to get Mer to the airport by 0530 so she can get back to Charleston for her mom's 60th birthday, and then I need to dive on 13 boats - so I will be tired out by the time I get to our Eastport 32 for the day's coverage.

 

But we'll be out there - fueled by nicotine and vodka, we'll get you all the action on the final day of On-The-Water Anarchy from the 2008 Melges 24 North American Championship. I've got a spectacular guest photographer on board with me tomorrow - local art photog Sara Procter will be snapping, and hopefully I can get her and her computer assistant up to speed fast enough for them to provide you with some good shots in a timely manner. We'll see how it goes - I'm optimistic.

 

One more mention of our sponsors - without whom, we'd never have made it to the water. Tom Weaver's Eastport 32, which is – by far – the best spectating boat that we've ever had the pleasure to be on; George and the Coral Reef Sailing Apparel folks, who have more great giveaways today, and Latis Yachting Solutions, the most reliable, fully insured and DOT licensed, racing yacht delivery company there is - they're throwing a 10% discount for any boat transport this winter to the Anarchists.

 

Here's Dave Ullman after day 3 - talking about his protest. Listen, and come back later for more on how it went down - and what's to come on that front.

 

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David Dabney is helming Wireless - owner Reggie Fairchild couldn't make it, so Dabney, a former college all-american, is driving his first Melges regatta with some eye-popping results. Dabney's fast, and he's getting his own Melges to get the Charleston fleet comfortably in the double digits. Good on' em.

 

 

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Gabrio Zandona is one of our favorite guys in the fleet. He's not the usual blustering italiano - he's just chill, and fast, and mellow, and ultra competitive. Here's a long one with Gabi.

 

 

 

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Gabrio Zandona is one of our favorite guys in the fleet. He's not the usual blustering italiano - he's just chill, and fast, and mellow, and ultra competitive. Here's a long one with Gabi.

 

 

 

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9:30 on Friday night and you're still posting - that's serious dedication. I hadn't seen a thing and caught up completely due to your efforts. Keep up the good work. I still owe you a cocktail, but I ain't going out tonight. You around tomorrow night?

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9:30 on Friday night and you're still posting - that's serious dedication. I hadn't seen a thing and caught up completely due to your efforts. Keep up the good work. I still owe you a cocktail, but I ain't going out tonight. You around tomorrow night?

Not only am I around tomorrow night, but my wife ain't, and I got all women on the Eastport 32. They'll come out, I'm sure.

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Here's Dave Ullman after day 3 - talking about his protest. Listen, and come back later for more on how it went down - and what's to come on that front.

 

 

Questionable reasoning behind the protest. I would think that the fact that 15 boats were called over early is far more unfair than racing "too much" in a day. Can we really get mad when the RC is pushing for more racing, and it is not specifically stated in the SI's?

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The rehearing was denied, but the reasoning gets pretty bizarre. Yesterday, as Dave said, the jury found the RC in error, and wrote the facts found as such. Today, they changed that finding - presumably to avoid throwing the race out, but cover their asses a bit better. The decision - which I'm waiting for a written copy of - now finds that the NOR's provision for 2-3 races only conflicts with the Sailing Instructions, which is completely silent on the matter. That's some weird shit.

 

I predict another rehearing tomorrow. And it really could win.

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Here's Dave Ullman after day 3 - talking about his protest. Listen, and come back later for more on how it went down - and what's to come on that front.

 

 

Questionable reasoning behind the protest. I would think that the fact that 15 boats were called over early is far more unfair than racing "too much" in a day. Can we really get mad when the RC is pushing for more racing, and it is not specifically stated in the SI's?

 

 

Good on Jeff and crew! Calling the boats instead of just slouching into a general is the way any proffessional race officer will tell you it should be done even if you call all the boats except one. Per a friend from Premiere Racing.

 

While I hate to see a "good"(I use that term loosely in context alone) race thrown out Ullman has pretty sound footing to get that race tossed. If there is documentation that states a fixed number of races then that standard holds true even if the SI's don't mention it. In the RC's position I would post on the official race notification board that each day will consist of as many races as possble.

 

P.S. Clean tell Jeff Borland that we all miss him at Pymatuning Yacht Club. I am sure he would agree that you could get some sweet OD dinghy OTW action out here! (Maybe Spring Classic or Independence Day regatta. HINT HINT) Shameless pimping OUT!

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Gotta pimp the event sponsors again - without them there would be no racing, and nothing for Clean to do....

 

The 2008 North American Championship is sponsored by Pusser’s Rum, Pusser’s Caribbean Grille, Coral Reef Sailing Apparel, Gill, Melges Performance Sailboats, Team Barbarians</SPAN>, Atlantic Yacht Rigging, Velocitek, North Sails, Quantum Sails, Harken, Westin Annapolis, USMCA, Sail22, Annapolis Wireless Internet (AWI), Eastport Yacht Center, National Sailing Hall of Fame, Annapolis Maritime Museum, and Marriott Annapolis Waterfront. The Melges 24 Class and the Eastport Yacht Club are extremely proud to be partnered with these outstanding companies and thank them for their generous support of the 2008 Melges 24 North American Championship.

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Off to go and scrub bottoms...more on that later. Amuse yourself with this interview of Kristen Lane, former SCOTW and helm of Brickhouse 623. Kristen talks about why women should own and drive more boats, how good the 24 is for women, what her reception has been like in the fleet, and where she gets those wheels from.

 

Check it.

 

 

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Here's Dave Ullman after day 3 - talking about his protest. Listen, and come back later for more on how it went down - and what's to come on that front.

 

 

Questionable reasoning behind the protest. I would think that the fact that 15 boats were called over early is far more unfair than racing "too much" in a day. Can we really get mad when the RC is pushing for more racing, and it is not specifically stated in the SI's?

 

 

Good on Jeff and crew! Calling the boats instead of just slouching into a general is the way any proffessional race officer will tell you it should be done even if you call all the boats except one. Per a friend from Premiere Racing.

 

While I hate to see a "good"(I use that term loosely in context alone) race thrown out Ullman has pretty sound footing to get that race tossed. If there is documentation that states a fixed number of races then that standard holds true even if the SI's don't mention it. In the RC's position I would post on the official race notification board that each day will consist of as many races as possble.

 

P.S. Clean tell Jeff Borland that we all miss him at Pymatuning Yacht Club. I am sure he would agree that you could get some sweet OD dinghy OTW action out here! (Maybe Spring Classic or Independence Day regatta. HINT HINT) Shameless pimping OUT!

 

I thinks it's all BS...........if any of the protesters actually cared about the 2-3 race line they would have protested prior to race 4...........the jury should tell them all to go get them rum drinks and quit wasting their time

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Here's Dave Ullman after day 3 - talking about his protest. Listen, and come back later for more on how it went down - and what's to come on that front.

 

 

Questionable reasoning behind the protest. I would think that the fact that 15 boats were called over early is far more unfair than racing "too much" in a day. Can we really get mad when the RC is pushing for more racing, and it is not specifically stated in the SI's?

 

 

Good on Jeff and crew! Calling the boats instead of just slouching into a general is the way any proffessional race officer will tell you it should be done even if you call all the boats except one. Per a friend from Premiere Racing.

 

While I hate to see a "good"(I use that term loosely in context alone) race thrown out Ullman has pretty sound footing to get that race tossed. If there is documentation that states a fixed number of races then that standard holds true even if the SI's don't mention it. In the RC's position I would post on the official race notification board that each day will consist of as many races as possble.

 

P.S. Clean tell Jeff Borland that we all miss him at Pymatuning Yacht Club. I am sure he would agree that you could get some sweet OD dinghy OTW action out here! (Maybe Spring Classic or Independence Day regatta. HINT HINT) Shameless pimping OUT!

 

I thinks it's all BS...........if any of the protesters actually cared about the 2-3 race line they would have protested prior to race 4...........the jury should tell them all to go get them rum drinks and quit wasting their time

I agree! If Clean had any balls that is the question he would have asked Ullman....If you had won the race would you still be trying to get it thrown out?

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

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Off to go and scrub bottoms...more on that later. Amuse yourself with this interview of Kristen Lane, former SCOTW and helm of Brickhouse 623. Kristen talks about why women should own and drive more boats, how good the 24 is for women, what her reception has been like in the fleet, and where she gets those wheels from.

 

Check it.

 

 

Now the T Hutch interview was good but this one is even better! Great job clean and Cheers Kristen for having the stones (figuritivley) to get to a level to play with the big boys!

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

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hell, they were so excited to do 4th race they started too soon!

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

 

I agree with all of the above but at this level everyone in the protest would smile and giggle if you asked them the question of whether they would protest if they were leading the regatta. Unfortunatley IMHO the rules are in place for a reason and people are always going to find a way to use them to their advantage. This goes against the part of the RRS that states that sailing in general is a corinthian sport and that as a participant you are to act accordingly (lets us see someone protest on that basis). Question is does the rule making RC infallible also exclude them from corinthian action) I beleive that the race commitees duty is to get as many races as possible off but the hired guns will prevail in the zealotry to get this one tossed because of an improperly worded document. Again IMHO never put a number on an NOR or SI unless it is followed by "but will try to sail as many as possible per day"

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

what happens if they get 0 races in today? throw the whole regatta out?

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

So then why did he even bother to sail the race.

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

just because it's justified does not make it a non-bs move..............

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

what happens if they get 0 races in today? throw the whole regatta out?

Apparently they can't have one race either, only 2 to 3. That is an amateur bullshit move.

 

Clean call them on this. Don't be a pussy!

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

what happens if they get 0 races in today? throw the whole regatta out?

 

 

The answer to that is if they don't meet the required minimum they unequivocally yes and for the inverse of why they are trying to get this race tossed. I had that happen at a college regatta and that was George Griswold's stance.

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If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

what happens if they get 0 races in today? throw the whole regatta out?

 

 

The answer to that is if they don't meet the required minimum they unequivocally yes and for the inverse of why they are trying to get this race tossed. I had that happen at a college regatta and that was George Griswold's stance.

 

OK, I'll let this one go....it's obviously getting me riled up. I just think that sailors show up to sail and should be looking forward to getting as many races in a humanly possible..........

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This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

I don't know about that. Ullman has nothing to prove. He's a top shelf sailor. If he drops a few

places in one regatta because he had one OCS too many, no big deal: he's still a great sailor.

However, it's easy to lose people's respect (Remember Paul's saying) and these pros

need that more that one regatta's results. So they should be careful about trying to win

on technicalities.

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HA people don't hire nice guys they hire winners as per Ricky Bobby you ain't first you're last/winner's do what they want. People don't hire these guys for their self respect they hire them for their sharp teeth, ask and Farr40 regatta protest commitee

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HA people don't hire nice guys they hire winners as per Ricky Bobby you ain't first you're last/winner's do what they want. People don't hire these guys for their self respect they hire them for their sharp teeth, ask and Farr40 regatta protest commitee

 

I think there is a difference between being aggressive on the water and being the guy

who protests because another team didn't have their life jackets on or because the race committee started an

extra race (which was cool until they found out they were OCS..). But maybe that's just me...

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Dabney's fast, and he's getting his own Melges to get the Charleston fleet comfortably in the double digits. Good on' em.

 

 

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You better add one more to the Chas fleet count. I just agreed in principle to a boat.

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100% agree, the protest is weak. If "the players" who were OCS all finished high and Hutchinson tanked...this would ABSOLUTELY be breaking down very differently. Its all about manipulation of the rules to ones own advantage. I agree that all sailors (especially at a big championship like this one) should be prepared to sail as much as possible, with no BS complaints. The OCS situation makes it stand out a little more, but does not change a thing. Finally the NOR/SA screw up is dumb...too much information, to specific. PRO's should learn a solid lesson here...

 

If nobody was OCS or DSQ there would be no complaints about an extra race. This of course is a tactic

to try to avoid having this particular race count. Had they been top 5, they'd would not be protesting and

that's why it's a BS move (IMHO). It's kind of ironic given all the bitching RCs typically get for not getting

races going.

 

This isn't a BS move.... this is part of the game, he's a professional and his livelihood depends upon placing as best as he possibly can. If that mean he has a chance to improve his score by protesting and getting a race tossed so be it. Shit its not like what Jud Smith did recently is it

 

what happens if they get 0 races in today? throw the whole regatta out?

 

 

The answer to that is if they don't meet the required minimum they unequivocally yes and for the inverse of why they are trying to get this race tossed. I had that happen at a college regatta and that was George Griswold's stance.

 

OK, I'll let this one go....it's obviously getting me riled up. I just think that sailors show up to sail and should be looking forward to getting as many races in a humanly possible..........

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10 min to a gun where the fuck is clean I think we have been given too much time to let our minds wander and idle mind is the devils playground

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I talked to PRO Jeff Borland for a few minutes about the redress request. He told me that when he changed that part of the NOR in the SIs, he deliberately left out the mention of a number of races for the RC to run. That's why there was no error - because the SIs didn't actually conflict - they governed. He admitted that it was not worded the way it should have been, but he's got a convincing argument. Reeser and Ullman and a few other boats may have some precedent though - I haven't seen their case.

 

Regardless of whether it was a bullshit move, it's now an exercise in sailing law.

 

We'll see what happens.

 

AP is up, I've got 5 sexy ladies with me today, and none of them is my wife. My job sucks.

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I have a special guest photographer aboard today - welcome Sara Proctor to OTW Anarchy again - her first time was in Key West.

 

She's a local photographer with an awesome eye, who recently won the Eastport EYC Lights Parade Poster Contest - beating out several prominent photogs. She'll have a ton of photos on display at EYC for people to see and purchase, so check it out. Also, check out http://www.saraproctor.com for more about this great chick.

 

AP still up. This is a test of our new photographer/upload team.

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Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

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We've got the privilege of having Esin Gulari aboard today - yep, that's tactician Bora Gulari's mom. She did a ton of windsurf racing, some FJ stuff, even a banshee, and is looking forward to seeing her son with a good day today. Bora, with Simon on Simplicity, has had moments of brilliance with the biggest margin of victory of any race in this regatta on Day 2, and a 3 earlier in the day. Unfortunately, the other two races that day were both OCS, with the team clawing back to a 32 and 25 - making the top ten unlikely for this talented team.

 

Borland "there are some nice puffs coming through, but the air is still up and down and unstable."

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Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

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Silent. Same as every other day.

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http://www.annapolismelges24.com/documents...As_SI_Final.pdf

 

Above are the SI's. I see NO DEADLINE for starting a race today. I may be wrong, someone double check and see if I missed anything.

 

Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

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7. SCHEDULE OF RACES

7.1 Registration, crew weighing, boat measurement

and sail registration will be as follows:

Sunday, October 26 1300 – 1700

Monday, October 27 1000 – 1700

Tuesday, October 28 1000 – 1700

7.2 Pre‐Event Racing Schedule

Tuesday, October 28

Tuning Clinic/Practice Race 1300

7.3 Tuesday, October 28, there will be a competitors

meeting at 1800.

7.4 Racing Schedule

Wednesday, October 29

Thursday, October 30

Friday, October 31

Saturday, November 1

7.5 The scheduled time of the warning signal for the

first race each day is 1100 hours.

7.6 When the race committee finish boat displays

Flag 2nd Sub, this shall signal their intent to

conduct another race. Flag2nd Sub will be

removed with one long sound, and the warning

signal will be made 1 minute after removal. This

changes RRS Race Signals.

 

http://www.annapolismelges24.com/documents...As_SI_Final.pdf

 

Above are the SI's. I see NO DEADLINE for starting a race today. I may be wrong, someone double check and see if I missed anything.

 

Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

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http://www.annapolismelges24.com/documents...As_SI_Final.pdf

 

Above are the SI's. I see NO DEADLINE for starting a race today. I may be wrong, someone double check and see if I missed anything.

 

Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

 

 

 

with a sunday as a travel day they will push late to get races in

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What time will the Kettle One start flowing on the 32 today? I am going with 12:30 pm.

 

http://www.annapolismelges24.com/documents...As_SI_Final.pdf

 

Above are the SI's. I see NO DEADLINE for starting a race today. I may be wrong, someone double check and see if I missed anything.

 

Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

 

 

 

with a sunday as a travel day they will push late to get races in

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What time will the Kettle One start flowing on the 32 today? I am going with 12:30 pm.

 

http://www.annapolismelges24.com/documents...As_SI_Final.pdf

 

Above are the SI's. I see NO DEADLINE for starting a race today. I may be wrong, someone double check and see if I missed anything.

 

Still in AP - there is some wind, but the PRO is being very conservative - and looks like he wants to get one good race in. Can anyone check the SIs for me and let me know what's the deadline for today?

 

 

 

with a sunday as a travel day they will push late to get races in

 

 

 

Ha the ladies are already pushing the screwdrivers as per above

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TOp Mark Rounding:

 

WTF

MFATIC

Blu Moon

Joe Fly

Monsoon

Ullman

Quantum

I'm With STupid

Full Throttle

Larson

Wild Child

High Voltage

McNay

Blur

Mrs Brick House

No Decorum!

Jim GOlden

Wireless

 

This is a big mixup - 757 - simplicity was deep and must have been over early...again!

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Dabney's fast, and he's getting his own Melges to get the Charleston fleet comfortably in the double digits. Good on' em.

 

 

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You better add one more to the Chas fleet count. I just agreed in principle to a boat.

Holy Crap! Congrats brother - if you need good crew, give us a call.

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Bottom Mark - and everyone's tearing off in a drag race to the left side.

 

MFatci

WTF

Blu Moon

Joe Fly

Ullman

QUantum

Monsoon

Larson

I'm WIth stupid

FUll Throttle

Wild Child (go the filter!)

Stu MCNay

Hiugh VOltage

Blur

Mrs Brick House

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This is turning into a procession to the left side. Alan Field took the right gate, got stuck on that side just a bit, and got passed by Blu Moon. The left is the only place with breeze, albeit light.

 

 

Final WW Mark:

 

MFatci

Blu Moon

WTF

Joe Fly

Ullman

Hutch

Monsoon

Larson

Full Throttle

Wild Child

Im with Tupid

Blur

Mrs Brick House

 

Headed to the finish!

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It did look like joe fly fouled the outside boat at the first windward mark.

 

(If you complete the tack within the 2 BL circle then you cannot make the outside boat sail above close hauled. You could see the jib luffing on the outside boat. That is why Terry was yelling - at least from the video I saw).

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It did look like joe fly fouled the outside boat at the first windward mark.

 

(If you complete the tack within the 2 BL circle then you cannot make the outside boat sail above close hauled. You could see the jib luffing on the outside boat. That is why Terry was yelling - at least from the video I saw).

 

that can get really tricky to interpret -

if the outside boat is overstood, and has their jib eased, it will luff if they head up a bit, even if they're not above close-hauled...

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good coverage so far..Locals on west marine in third all wek won a race and top ten consistent...no interviews is this the anti blue dot thing again?

 

you ever try to talk to larson at a regatta? good luck! :lol:

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What the heck is happening?????????????? Clean drink something to wake yourself up.

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good coverage so far..Locals on west marine in third all wek won a race and top ten consistent...no interviews is this the anti blue dot thing again?

 

you ever try to talk to larson at a regatta? good luck! :lol:

Exactly. We're at the finish now - no huge changes, slow racing, but the vodka has started flowing so things should get better from here!

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Zandona flying protest flag since second beat?

 

 

Anyone know who is sailing with John Kolius?

 

I know Farley Fontonot is............not sure about the rest

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Finish:

 

MFatic

Blu Moon

WTF

Joe Fly

Ullman

Quantum

Larson

Monsoon

FT

WIld Child

High Voltage

I'm With Stupid

Wireless/OSA

McNay

Kristen Lane

Blur

RockNRoll

Convexity

Sweaty Betty

Kolius

Othmar

Vince Portrer

Barbarians

WOlf Lixfeld

Funtech

Zingara

No Decorum

Jim Golden

SImplicity

Henry Colie

John Hamilton

Firewater

Riot Act

Vapour Trail

Tiburon

Peter Lane

Robbie Wilkins

Chris Hamilton

Entoruage

 

 

MOre:

 

Jim Gunderson

12 Hapy thoughts

Cujo

Chileans

Arthur Bressie

 

 

 

 

For a Coral Reef Sailing Apparel wicking shirt, guess the color of Lauren's panties. Seriously. We've got five girls and five more shirts or hats to give away.

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TRAMP - thanks for the class site updates.

 

 

RC is going to roll quickly into another start - the final one of the regatta!

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Youtube is being a motherfucker - videos are loaded, but all say "processing" so I can't link them yet. Sit tight. Wind is light, shite, and left.

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It did look like joe fly fouled the outside boat at the first windward mark.

 

(If you complete the tack within the 2 BL circle then you cannot make the outside boat sail above close hauled. You could see the jib luffing on the outside boat. That is why Terry was yelling - at least from the video I saw).

 

that can get really tricky to interpret -

if the outside boat is overstood, and has their jib eased, it will luff if they head up a bit, even if they're not above close-hauled...

 

 

Excellent point. I was trying to keep it short for the post, but you are correct. It appeared that the wind went left (boats on the left overstood, boats on the right seemed to be hanging on for dear life). It was purely a guess from the video. joe fly would have an uphill battle to prove that the other boat was NOT close hauled. If the boat actually protested and claimed they were close hauled, then it would take a LOT for the other boat to show that they were not close hauled. It didn't come to that, and you make a great point. I was just trying to stir the pot a little bit.

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Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

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Excellent point. I was trying to keep it short for the post, but you are correct. It appeared that the wind went left (boats on the left overstood, boats on the right seemed to be hanging on for dear life). It was purely a guess from the video. joe fly would have an uphill battle to prove that the other boat was NOT close hauled. If the boat actually protested and claimed they were close hauled, then it would take a LOT for the other boat to show that they were not close hauled. It didn't come to that, and you make a great point. I was just trying to stir the pot a little bit.

 

thanks, some pots need stirring... ;)

this happened between the top 2 boats in last year's Ensign nationals, and the pot got really stirred - there's a fun thread on it -

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For a Coral Reef Sailing Apparel wicking shirt, guess the color of Lauren's panties. Seriously. We've got five girls and five more shirts or hats to give away.

 

I am going for 'Teal' - don't know why. (Getting cocky after winning the shirt from yesterday!)

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Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

 

Trick question. She isn't wearing any.

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The radio chatter from the fisherman is hilarious! One guy says: "There are people out there who just shouldn't be allowed to have a boat."

 

PRO just warned competitors to stay away from the barges, and that they got complaints yesterday.

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Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

 

Trick question. She isn't wearing any.

 

Damn oneguy, we must have hung out too much over the years, I alreday posted that answer on the contest thread

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Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

 

Trick question. She isn't wearing any.

 

Damn oneguy, we must have hung out too much over the years, I alreday posted that answer on the contest thread

 

I don't care who wins.......I just want to see the proof

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Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

 

Trick question. She isn't wearing any.

That didn't take long. You win!

 

NExt girl: Amy. Guess 'em.

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gray.

 

Entourage is protesting the Chileans.

 

 

 

You guys can go ahead an guess the panties here in this thread - it's saturday, so it won't get too crazy.

 

Trick question. She isn't wearing any.

That didn't take long. You win!

 

NExt girl: Amy. Guess 'em.

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