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FT7.5 and FT10 sailing in San Diego

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Here are a few shots of the boats sailing in the bay. Winds started very light 2-4 and gradually built to 8-10 with puffs a little higher.

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The boat looks great.

While some whine others do.

Sorry I could not be there but I am snowed in at the beach.

Looks like you had a good sail.

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Great shots. That square top really sets off the 7.5 and it just looks fast. Hope to hear from the guys on the boats.

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I may be wrong but I think I just saw the baby tiger getting towed in front of Shelter Island. We're stuck here waiting to get back to the great white PNW.

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So how did the little Tiger do? Any comments from those on board either boat yesterday?

 

 

The silence is deafening.

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So how did the little Tiger do? Any comments from those on board either boat yesterday?

The silence is deafening.

Not for those who, unlike you, are deft.

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So how did the little Tiger do? Any comments from those on board either boat yesterday?

 

 

The silence is deafening.

 

 

I know Sailmaker Bob is on some plane or waiting in some airport as he has been the better part of the latter week. I assume Loco is doing the same. Dunno who was on the boats to give any reports. Pretty unremarkable weather though. Nothing much to say till she gets racing anyway. I was not there. Looks great though.

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Nothing broke, they had fun, the boat sails well, and the wind was max 8-10 knots. Be patient - there will be plenty of reporting on the boat when we get there.

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First impressions

 

Firstly I would like to thank Bob, Bill and Brian for giving us this opportunity to sail a new design. Also thanks to Tom for providing the pacing FT10m.

 

At the dock she looked great. The finish is great, Brian's hand in the final QC stages shows as the improved interior finish is well on par with later FT10s. The fit of the hatch and the very cool center storage locker is excellent, the rubber seals provide a quality feel when closed and the flush latches worked well. The cockpit is, well, huge! Lots of room many more than it takes to sail her. This makes a day sail with family and friends more enjoyable. The cabin space is better than I thought it would be and is your typical pup tent / sail storage space.

The mast base is busy making hatch removal (lift and slide to the left) a bit of a bother and probably not usable under way for a splash cover. Many of the lines were longer than they needed to be which is understandable for a testing hull and the jib sheet cam cleat slipped a bit, but with our local Harken rep on hand there were many easy solutions and this will be fixed for production models. The solution I liked the best was to splice an eye in the jib halyard to attach a 4:1 cascade for easy adjustment under way however this is not supposed to be a tweakers boat. Calibrated turnbuckles make rig tune a breeze. The big twin spreader carbon with steeply swept spreaders is all business and beefy for this size boat. Rake adjustment is possible with a well designed deck stepped mast base. Rigging was easy with sails going up in minutes.

 

Having sailed an FT10m all of this one design season I am familiar with its sailing characteristics and can only say the FT7.5 is an improvement for the average sailor (like me). In really good hands the FT10 is very fast upwind but the helm is vague and almost too neutral requiring one to push and pull the tiller uphill with little or no feel. The 7.5 helm was very well balanced with no slop and the slightest hint of weather helm for feel. In a puff the helm held in place without having to man handle it, a quick ease of the sheets, move some bodies around and she squirted out of a puff like a pinched watermelon seed. She is a “legs out” boat but is much stiffer and less powered up than the FT10 so no dead possums need to be raked over the single CG legal line. Crew position is very important some of the photos show the young guys all bunched up over the keel. This gives the boat a slight bow down look but proved to be faster than the alternatives we older guys tried.

Our sail handling was not quite as crisp as the young guys and launching out of the companion way turtle is something I haven’t done since J22 / J24 days. The problem is the chute is so big you can’t just bundle it up and toss it out the side of the boat the way we used to do in the J boats.

The goal is to launch and retrieve without anyone going forward of the mast, this will take some practice… My jury is still out on the turtle. I may just like to dump the chute in the hole. Jibing is a breeze with no drama.

 

Up wind in the real light stuff the 7.5 was more affected by the chop than the larger (2x displacement) FT10 but once we turned the corner the FT7.5 could stay with and at times grind down the big boat. As the wind built however the FT10m got on her lines and took off and the boats started to behave as they should relative to the size of each boat. The 7.5 was quite a bit slower upwind (as expected) but only marginally slower down wind and a pleasant surprise.

I think the rig is swept enough to carry more head sail maybe up to a 115% jib (like the Melges 24) in stead of the current 100% jib. This would help her upwind speed.

 

What’s it rate…

 

When selecting a rating one must keep in mind that the comparable boats have been optimized through battle so ratings for the FT7.5 should start conservative and be reviewed at six month intervals. The ratings described are my opinions for San Diego (light air) only.

 

Buoy rating: 87,

33 seconds slower than the FT10 and 3 seconds slower than the M24, the smaller headsail than the M24 leaves her gasping a bit in the light compared to the M24. She is stiffer than the M24 making her a bit sticky in the light. As the wind builds her stiffness will help but without hiking straps the Melgi will hold her own. Off wind she will be a bit faster.

 

RLC rating: 62.

2 seconds slower than the M24 and 14 seconds slower than the FT10, she does not jib reach well (that little jib again).

 

OWC rating: 54:

12 seconds slower than the FT10 and equal to the M24. Off wind the FT7.5 pretty fast without the upwind penalty she can close the gap on the FT10 and if sailed well be dead on competitive with the M24.

 

Once again many thanks to the guys at Hipptrader and Harbour sailboats. This is a great little boat. In this economy the low cost of keeping the boat should prove to be a winner.

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The ratings described are my opinions for San Diego (light air) only.

 

Buoy rating: 87,

33 seconds slower than the FT10 and 3 seconds slower than the M24, the smaller headsail than the M24 leaves her gasping a bit in the light compared to the M24. She is stiffer than the M24 making her a bit sticky in the light. As the wind builds her stiffness will help but without hiking straps the Melgi will hold her own. Off wind she will be a bit faster.

 

RLC rating: 62.

2 seconds slower than the M24 and 14 seconds slower than the FT10, she does not jib reach well (that little jib again).

 

OWC rating: 54:

12 seconds slower than the FT10 and equal to the M24. Off wind the FT7.5 pretty fast without the upwind penalty she can close the gap on the FT10 and if sailed well be dead on competitive with the M24.

 

What are the chances of you being a socal handicapper?

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The ratings described are my opinions for San Diego (light air) only.

 

Buoy rating: 87,

33 seconds slower than the FT10 and 3 seconds slower than the M24, the smaller headsail than the M24 leaves her gasping a bit in the light compared to the M24. She is stiffer than the M24 making her a bit sticky in the light. As the wind builds her stiffness will help but without hiking straps the Melgi will hold her own. Off wind she will be a bit faster.

 

RLC rating: 62.

2 seconds slower than the M24 and 14 seconds slower than the FT10, she does not jib reach well (that little jib again).

 

OWC rating: 54:

12 seconds slower than the FT10 and equal to the M24. Off wind the FT7.5 pretty fast without the upwind penalty she can close the gap on the FT10 and if sailed well be dead on competitive with the M24.

 

What are the chances of you being a socal handicapper?

 

None, just an opinion. I was asked by the the SD PHRF guys to give an opinion. They will make their own decisions.

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Congratulations to all the HT guys and Bob for launching another fantastic boat. That square top main just looks sooooooo right. Based on the reports of the excellent light air downwind performance the 7.5 could be a killer in the Newport-Ensenada race.

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None, just an opinion. I was asked by the the SD PHRF guys to give an opinion. They will make their own decisions.

 

PH So. Cal runs in 3 sec/mile increments so you really mean 63 right?

 

From the photos the boat looks underpowered in the light stuff compared to the 10 (what isn't?) upwind and down. Probably a better all round performer in breeze. Light air and chop might be a problem so going to a max size jib now would be a good idea.

 

Could be 63, I was really tring to get some perspective to the diffetent sailing characteristics from the M24. I think the M24 should give up more time round the cans and less RLC and even less or equal in this case OWC.

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Bob, I love the fact that you didn't just produce a scaled down version of the 10, but gave the 7.5 it's own identity, but the family resemblance is still there. Looking forward to reading more in different conditions and watching the boat/class mature.

 

Well Done, Bob and Hip Trader!

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Well it seems a sweeeeeet ride. SD, DP and MDR would benefit from a larger jib!

 

Wish y'all could bring her up for the Malibu race on the 3rd. Some locals here would love to eyeball this baby.

 

Well done everybody.

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None, just an opinion. I was asked by the the SD PHRF guys to give an opinion. They will make their own decisions.

 

PH So. Cal runs in 3 sec/mile increments so you really mean 63 right?

 

From the photos the boat looks underpowered in the light stuff compared to the 10 (what isn't?) upwind and down. Probably a better all round performer in breeze. Light air and chop might be a problem so going to a max size jib now would be a good idea.

 

Good point. The ability to do well (and have fun) in 6-12 TWS and chop/slop is necessary in places like San Diego. That's why great boats like the Antrims and Express 27 never got the foothold here that they did in the Bay Area. Sounds like the 7.5 could be a great Bay Area and Long Beach boat in the current configuration.

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What's the FT 7.5 rate ? Don't know yet...but 2009 KWRW posted fleet splits and put the 7.5 in with C&C 121, J35, Ben 36.7, J109. Posted rating for this group 72 -82 so far, more ratings to follow. Lots of waterline and lead in this crowd.

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Hi,

let me know IRC rating of FT 7.5 and 10

maybe it is a good way to compare boot with others

;)

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Come on guys... lets see pics at 15-20knts...

 

METAR text: KNZY 231752Z 31010KT 10SM BKN040 BKN060 BKN250 16/06 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP159 T01560061 10161 20139 53018 $

Conditions at: KNZY (NORTH ISLAND NAS, CA, US) observed 1752 UTC 23 December 2008

Temperature: 15.6°C (60°F)

Dewpoint: 6.1°C (43°F) [RH = 53%]

Pressure (altimeter): 30.00 inches Hg (1016.0 mb)

[sea-level pressure: 1015.9 mb]

Winds: from the NW (310 degrees) at 12 MPH (10 knots; 5.2 m/s)

Visibility: 10 or more miles (16+ km)

Ceiling: 4000 feet AGL

Clouds: broken clouds at 4000 feet AGL

broken clouds at 6000 feet AGL

broken clouds at 25000 feet AGL

 

Text: BECMG 2318/2320 SCT040 SCT250 QNH2986INS

Forecast period: 1800 UTC 23 December 2008 to 0300 UTC 24 December 2008

Forecast type: BECOMING: Conditions expected to become as follows by 2000 UTC 23 December 2008

Winds: from the W (270 degrees) at 15 MPH (13 knots; 6.8 m/s)

Visibility: 6 or more miles (10+ km)

Clouds: scattered clouds at 4000 feet AGL

scattered clouds at 25000 feet AGL

Weather: no significant weather forecast for this period

 

Nows the time. looks like a great day to get out with some wind and no real rain.

 

Lets go!

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Boat Porn! Can't wait to see the 13.8. Actually i can't wait until i graduate and have a job making enough money to buy one of these boats.

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Looks mighty fine.

Congratulations to all involved, I hope you build hundreds of them.

I wonder if the perceived 'stiffness' everyone is citing, is really just due to the

fact that the the crew weight is more effective on the smaller Tiger.

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Looks mighty fine.

Congratulations to all involved, I hope you build hundreds of them.

I wonder if the perceived 'stiffness' everyone is citing, is really just due to the

fact that the the crew weight is more effective on the smaller Tiger.

 

The bulb is mighty heavy and deep...

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None, just an opinion. I was asked by the the SD PHRF guys to give an opinion. They will make their own decisions.

 

PH So. Cal runs in 3 sec/mile increments so you really mean 63 right?

 

From the photos the boat looks underpowered in the light stuff compared to the 10 (what isn't?) upwind and down. Probably a better all round performer in breeze. Light air and chop might be a problem so going to a max size jib now would be a good idea.

 

I sailed on the boat Saturday for two sessions. 7 people on board for the first and 4 for the second. Winds were very light early for the first session under 6 knts. Even with 7 people the boat moved pretty well in the light stuff. Also it didn't feel crowded at all. It looks like it is under powered in the photos but I think that is because it is a stiffer boat. The sail plan seems very well balanced. I like fathead mains and these sails looked smooth. Of course bigger sails will always be better in the light stuff. This boat feels bigger than it is, the cockpit is huge. I loved the locker in the middle. We put a ton of stuff in there even though you wouldn't be doing that while racing. Up wind it had the type of speed you would expect for this size boat. Down wind was great. I think we were doing mid sixes in 8knts. Don't know for sure no one had a GPS. I would love to sail this boat in more wind to see when it breaks out.

 

I liked the hatch bag Bob Pattison made for the chute. The cockpit launching makes this an easy boat to race. No one has to go forward except someone may have to give the jib a pull to get it down all the way( or rig a down haul). It looks like the turning blocks for the spin sheets need an angled mounting pad to get a fairer lead. My only other gripe (and it is a small one) is the springy up and down feel to the tiller. Side to side the tiller felt great, no play.

 

Bob Perry what a great boat. It is perfect for racing here in SD. I was pleasantly surprised by how it felt size wise being used to racing bigger boats. It would need a kelp cutter here though.

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Tweaker:

Many thanks for that. These Tigers are true team efforts and without Bill and Brian there would be no Tigers at all. My job is the easy part. Bob P. (the other one) also deserves a lot of credit for engineering the rig.

 

It's now Christmas eve at the beach. We have some snow. Coming and going will be very difficult. I'll stay loose. I'm finishing up my Christmas cartoons but I have not been able to get out to digitize any of them yet. So I'll leave you with this unusual beach seen.

The Perry beach shack in the snow.

 

Merry Christmas to all who have followed the success of the FT's here on the pages of SA.

 

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Where's the boat now? I'm still stuck in San Diego on a weather delay back to the PNW and would love to see it in the flesh. I have a rental car to get there.

 

Thanks!

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Tweaker:

Many thanks for that. These Tigers are true team efforts and without Bill and Brian there would be no Tigers at all. My job is the easy part. Bob P. (the other one) also deserves a lot of credit for engineering the rig.

 

It's now Christmas eve at the beach. We have some snow. Coming and going will be very difficult. I'll stay loose. I'm finishing up my Christmas cartoons but I have not been able to get out to digitize any of them yet. So I'll leave you with this unusual beach seen.

The Perry beach shack in the snow.

 

Merry Christmas to all who have followed the success of the FT's here on the pages of SA.

 

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That is one lovely Beach House and the boat looks fantastic, great Job. While I was sitting at San Fran Airport on Saturday I was thinking how much fun it would have been to be in San Diago Sailing on the FT 7.5.

 

Merry Christmas from a Scotsman in Oregon

 

Simon

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Where's the boat now? I'm still stuck in San Diego on a weather delay back to the PNW and would love to see it in the flesh. I have a rental car to get there.

 

Thanks!

SOUTH WESTERN YACHT CLUB, POINT LOMA. SITTING IN IT'S TRAILER.

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None, just an opinion. I was asked by the the SD PHRF guys to give an opinion. They will make their own decisions.

 

PH So. Cal runs in 3 sec/mile increments so you really mean 63 right?

 

From the photos the boat looks underpowered in the light stuff compared to the 10 (what isn't?) upwind and down. Probably a better all round performer in breeze. Light air and chop might be a problem so going to a max size jib now would be a good idea.

 

I sailed on the boat Saturday for two sessions. 7 people on board for the first and 4 for the second. Winds were very light early for the first session under 6 knts. Even with 7 people the boat moved pretty well in the light stuff. Also it didn't feel crowded at all. It looks like it is under powered in the photos but I think that is because it is a stiffer boat. The sail plan seems very well balanced. I like fathead mains and these sails looked smooth. Of course bigger sails will always be better in the light stuff. This boat feels bigger than it is, the cockpit is huge. I loved the locker in the middle. We put a ton of stuff in there even though you wouldn't be doing that while racing. Up wind it had the type of speed you would expect for this size boat.

Down wind was great. I think we were doing mid sixes in 8knts. Don't know for sure no one had a GPS. I would love to sail this boat in more wind to see when it breaks out.

 

I liked the hatch bag Bob Pattison made for the chute. The cockpit launching makes this an easy boat to race. No one has to go forward except someone may have to give the jib a pull to get it down all the way( or rig a down haul). It looks like the turning blocks for the spin sheets need an angled mounting pad to get a fairer lead. My only other gripe (and it is a small one) is the springy up and down feel to the tiller. Side to side the tiller felt great, no play.

 

Bob Perry what a great boat. It is perfect for racing here in SD. I was pleasantly surprised by how it felt size wise being used to racing bigger boats. It would need a kelp cutter here though.

 

I sailed on Saturday as well. Thanks to everybody who made that possible, it was a real treat! Tweaker pretty much had the same impressions of the boat as I did. There is a short video the folks at Norcalsailing have put up on their site at

http://www.norcalsailing.com/movies.html. We want to see a 7.5 in some big breeze here on the Bay!

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Where are the pics?

 

I was hoping for some Ft7.5 merry christmas surprises today - ok tomorrow is ok :rolleyes::)

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Nice Job on this one Bob.

 

Boat looks great.

 

Looking forward to the Clean report coming out Jan 2.

 

Nice to have a new entry into the upcoming 24' sportboat market.

 

How many has HT sold?

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short stick - You had a ride on the 7.5 lined up for New Year´s day with the Ed. Are we going to see your report shortly after?

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I've deleted my last two posts as they are nothing but inflamatory and nothing good will come of them. Good luck to the FT7.5

ss

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good post... come sail with us when you got a chance.

 

Cazza

 

I've deleted my last two posts as they are nothing but inflamatory and nothing good will come of them. Good luck to the FT7.5

ss

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Mission Bay 12 Gusting to 24 mph

 

SunShine Blue Skys Puffy White Clouds

 

What's there to do today ??

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Mission Bay 12 Gusting to 24 mph

 

SunShine Blue Skys Puffy White Clouds

 

What's there to do today ??

 

I was thinking the same thing as I got up this morning for a quick surf. Good Swel LOTS OF WIND. Didn't go out. But I thought I wonder what the boys with the FT7.5 are doing today?

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I love typing inflamatory posts then deleting them. Just as long as one person gets to read it, then I'm happy.

j/k SS. But we all do it, so thank you for being one of the good SA's.

 

Woody, keep the weather on hold for us will you please? Perfect for NYD : )

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Mission Bay 12 Gusting to 24 mph

 

SunShine Blue Skys Puffy White Clouds

 

What's there to do today ??

 

I was thinking the same thing as I got up this morning for a quick surf. Good Swel LOTS OF WIND. Didn't go out. But I thought I wonder what the boys with the FT7.5 are doing today?

 

TWEAKING, TWEAKING, TWEAKING!

:ph34r:

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Mission Bay 12 Gusting to 24 mph

 

SunShine Blue Skys Puffy White Clouds

 

What's there to do today ??

 

I was thinking the same thing as I got up this morning for a quick surf. Good Swel LOTS OF WIND. Didn't go out. But I thought I wonder what the boys with the FT7.5 are doing today?

 

TWEAKING, TWEAKING, TWEAKING!

:ph34r:

 

 

 

"IT" (what ever that will be) Shall all come together 01/01/2009

 

Ed, Clean and whoever the Fack else will be along: Please keep the noise down

 

I'm bringing a Whopper Hang-Over (a tradition) along for the NYD race

 

 

Plz trim your sails correctly and have the lifelines approved by the forum Before I get me shots

 

Notice to Mariners: "The After (NYD) Race Party is @ Fiddlers Green"

 

Come see the NYD Race-Pix in a SlideShow, and see what Steve has up his sleeve!!

 

I'll be lookin for the Hair-"O"-Da-Dawg what bit me (again) Will I ever Learn ??

 

 

OK, So let's all keeps our guns in our holsters

 

and all Quick-Draws limited to yee flasks

 

Tiz a Phun Raze and the most damdge should be from the UV rays, Arrrrrrrrrrr

 

You SkallyWaggs whats caint make it; Rejoice Sit in yer snow an dont's work up a sweat Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Just rember: chargers SUCK - DAGO SUCK's, SunShine and Warm Weather in Winter is fur Pussys Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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There was a little wind today. Good day for the 7.5 to get out - where was it? Oh, on the trailer at my club...

 

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Call me if you want to sail on sunday

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i want to sail on sunday, but, oh yea, wrong side of the country!! enjoy, looking forward to the reports.

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Mission Bay 12 Gusting to 24 mph

 

SunShine Blue Skys Puffy White Clouds

 

What's there to do today ??

 

I was thinking the same thing as I got up this morning for a quick surf. Good Swel LOTS OF WIND. Didn't go out. But I thought I wonder what the boys with the FT7.5 are doing today?

 

TWEAKING, TWEAKING, TWEAKING!

:ph34r:

 

 

Forcast is for 5 to 6 out of the west, a little haze. Hopefully Little Tigers rudder can handle it. :ph34r:

Good luck

ss

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I think the "little tiger's" rudder will handle it a lot better than your short stick!!!

 

So, Short Stick, why so much interest? You have already said you are not in the market any longer. Do you just have the normal envy associated with people with your problem?

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Da-Wood-Boy! I'm 3k miles away. Sorry can't pick up a round at Fiddler's. How about uploading them?????????

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Couldn't make it because we got there before five. Ended up in the yacht club instead.

I'd love to see pics! Get any of FT10 Abacus?

By the way, where was baby tiger 7.5??? We saw them go out ahead of us at Silver Gate YC and didn't see them for the rest of the day!

How'd she do?

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Da-Wood-Boy! I'm 3k miles away. Sorry can't pick up a round at Fiddler's. How about uploading them?????????

 

I'm messin with them now

 

I'll try to have all posted tomorrow

 

Should have some later tonight or in the AM

 

Sorry you couldn't make Fidd's B)

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Couldn't make it because we got there before five. Ended up in the yacht club instead.

I'd love to see pics! Get any of FT10 Abacus?

By the way, where was baby tiger 7.5??? We saw them go out ahead of us at Silver Gate YC and didn't see them for the rest of the day!

How'd she do?

Couple to keep you going,

cheers Dal

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Couldn't make it because we got there before five. Ended up in the yacht club instead.

I'd love to see pics! Get any of FT10 Abacus?

By the way, where was baby tiger 7.5??? We saw them go out ahead of us at Silver Gate YC and didn't see them for the rest of the day!

How'd she do?

Couple to keep you going,

cheers Dal

 

Hey thanks!

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Boat looked Great !!!

 

might require hard-hats :unsure::o:o:o

 

Pix @ Fiddlers "NOW" B)

 

Couldn't make it because we got there before five. Ended up in the yacht club instead.

I'd love to see pics! Get any of FT10 Abacus?

By the way, where was baby tiger 7.5??? We saw them go out ahead of us at Silver Gate YC and didn't see them for the rest of the day!

How'd she do?

Couple to keep you going,

cheers Dal

 

Hey thanks!

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saw a Neil Pryde ad in Sailing World (maybe?) with the 7.5...good stuff

Yeah it was SW - cool . I think shots from China.

 

Still waiting for more pix, especially hi speed thrash shots.

 

and a few more interior shots

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i've seen a couple interior shots (physical pictures, not online) and its pretty spartan yet roomy...not sure just how roomy, for gear and people ie - Clean, could you lay down in there? better yet, can 2?!

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I got a ton of FT-7.5 pix (all will be posted in due time)

 

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Caption Contest Here!!!!!!!!!

 

 

1. Nope no chines on this hull.

 

2. How old was that Chinese food we had last night?

 

3. Yep the keel is up!

 

And keeping with WOX1 in the recent Hobart Race……. Bugger there is a shark caught on the keel!

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"So this is 'legs in' hiking, SB3 style!!?? :blink:

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Caption Contest Here!!!!!!!!!

 

 

1. Nope no chines on this hull.

 

2. How old was that Chinese food we had last night?

 

3. Yep the keel is up!

 

And keeping with WOX1 in the recent Hobart Race……. Bugger there is a shark caught on the keel!

 

 

 

that little wave just stays right with us

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why does it have a fence ? planning on offshore racing ? Is there anyway that it could be taken off before it gets too far ?

 

Some (I would) do Ensenada races on one. Also PHRF requires lifelines, no doubt that played in. I like the "fence".

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perhaps a legs in rule then. its just so much more interesting, convivial and easier. perhaps the class racing could be sans fence. they are so yacht like.

apart from that they look a good little boat. I couldn't find anything on how much they weigh

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perhaps a legs in rule then. its just so much more interesting, convivial and easier. perhaps the class racing could be sans fence. they are so yacht like.

apart from that they look a good little boat. I couldn't find anything on how much they weigh

 

Click on the Tiger head at the top of the page...

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perhaps a legs in rule then. its just so much more interesting, convivial and easier. perhaps the class racing could be sans fence. they are so yacht like.

apart from that they look a good little boat. I couldn't find anything on how much they weigh

 

 

It weighs 2150#

 

Hiptrader published the weight in an obscure place,,,, in plain view... :o

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