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Clean -

If you're listening, here's the type of content that I'd find interesting:

 

1. who's winning the starts, who's getting worked (by whom)

2. what's the wind doing, and who is taking best advantage - what are they thinking about on the respective boats

3. boat perf: are planing boats starting to break free, or stuck?

4. who has speed/height advantage - analysis of why (trim, driving technique, puff)

5. commentary re: great maneuvers & the poor ones too (video a super bonus)

6. battles within the battle - who is covering whom - and paybacks!

7. special interest stories - characters/jokes/classic lines/heroics/cheaters exposed...

8. comparison of sail shapes - what seems to be working - anything new being tried

9. protest action

10. and I guess mark roundings and finishes give it all a sense of conclusion

 

Of course I don't expect you to be able to get to all of this stuff, but hopefully this will give you some idea of what a "joe viewer" is thinking.

Cheers

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Clean asks a legitimate question about whether it is boring to sail around by ourselves but there is a logical answer. It takes a long time to put together a team as good a that which we have onboard Rosebud. If we do not sail and train, the team will dispurse and the program will loose all the knowledge we have gained over the past 2 years.

 

It is impossible to pull the boat out of storage and rock up to a major regatta and hope for a satisfactory result. We have just finished a complete refit of the boat since our return from the Med. We are now in the process of discovering how the changes we have made to the boat have changed the performance and handling of the boat.

 

We had a great race from Fort Lauderdale to KW and now we are learing about getting the boat around the cans. To be honest, KW is very limiting for us because of how short the legs are (2 Miles) and how shallow it is. Today in the first race, we could only sail for about 2 minutes off the start line on starboard before we would hit bottom. We had the same limitation at the top mark. However, maybe this distraction is good practice for Cowes???

 

Regardless, the KW Feeder and KWRW will help to prepare us better for the Jamaica race in 2 weeks and for the rest of 2009.

 

Malcolm

Rosebud/ Team DYT

 

Cheers Malcolm. Roger told me as much tonight when we did a long interview with Roger and Mrs. Sturgeon tonight. They were both great, talked openly about the STP65, SA, racing all by yourself, and Sydney Harbor's festivities. Given that the rest of our interviews tonight ended up being Melges teams, I had to mix it up a bit - and Roger was awesome.

 

They told me the coolest thing - that they owed SA big time. "Why?" I asked. "Because all the hits that we got from Sailing Anarchy helped to get Dockwise as a sponsor to move our boat around." Good on Dockwise, good on Roger, bummer that I won't get to race against him in the Lauderdale-Charleston race, as they are off to the Med.

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'm guessing that Judah is on New Wave. Is Jeff (and most of the old Abbey Normal crew) with you guys?

 

Keep up the good work! Good Luck

Judah couldn't make it. Ben Moon is on New Wave this week.

 

Hi Clean, Thanks for the update.

Good job today...keep up the great coverage. We're living vicariously thru your reports.

 

Unfortunately, I'll be working off-line for most of the next 4 days. :-(

It will be great to catch up in the eve's.

 

How's the tent?? same size , really light?? Any comparisons?

Did Steve T. make it down to play?

 

Cheers!

JG

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Hey Jersey sex kitten,

 

No Stevie as far as I can tell, been MIA. Espo is down here though ;)

 

Tent is same size, and the crowd is very noticeably smaller. Not a bad thing for me right now, as I can barely get through it anyway without getting mugged by all the whacked out fuckers I know and love. I need to get this thing running smoothly so I can start abusing substances and my body.

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Hey Jersey sex kitten,

 

No Stevie as far as I can tell, been MIA. Espo is down here though ;)

 

Tent is same size, and the crowd is very noticeably smaller. Not a bad thing for me right now, as I can barely get through it anyway without getting mugged by all the whacked out fuckers I know and love. I need to get this thing running smoothly so I can start abusing substances and my body.

 

LOL! I'm sure that you'll see John at the titty bars later.... Is he racing??

Yo, Espo! Where's the Hustler?

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hi......love your on the water report, love just hearing your voice, but i'm biased...........it's mama clean!!!!!!!!

Now THIS is funny. After three years of douchebags creating handles like Mama Clean and Grandma Clean to fuck with me, my actual mom finally posts in one of our reports. Gold!

 

 

Clean, I told you this in the tent, and I told you I'd say it here. You get slammed a lot of the time, but I've never had a problem with you and you work hard to support this sport, and it is clear that it is for the sheer love of it. My respect level for you went up about 1000 times today. For those of you that bash the OTW reporting, come here and spend even a day with it, and then talk to me. As for the rest of the shit you get . . . you are on your own!!! :lol:

 

And just because I probably haven't pissed enough people off with this post. . . . here's our backyard . . . .

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Clean asks a legitimate question about whether it is boring to sail around by ourselves but there is a logical answer. It takes a long time to put together a team as good a that which we have onboard Rosebud. If we do not sail and train, the team will dispurse and the program will loose all the knowledge we have gained over the past 2 years.

 

It is impossible to pull the boat out of storage and rock up to a major regatta and hope for a satisfactory result. We have just finished a complete refit of the boat since our return from the Med. We are now in the process of discovering how the changes we have made to the boat have changed the performance and handling of the boat.

 

We had a great race from Fort Lauderdale to KW and now we are learing about getting the boat around the cans. To be honest, KW is very limiting for us because of how short the legs are (2 Miles) and how shallow it is. Today in the first race, we could only sail for about 2 minutes off the start line on starboard before we would hit bottom. We had the same limitation at the top mark. However, maybe this distraction is good practice for Cowes???

 

Regardless, the KW Feeder and KWRW will help to prepare us better for the Jamaica race in 2 weeks and for the rest of 2009.

 

Malcolm

Rosebud/ Team DYT

 

Cheers Malcolm. Roger told me as much tonight when we did a long interview with Roger and Mrs. Sturgeon tonight. They were both great, talked openly about the STP65, SA, racing all by yourself, and Sydney Harbor's festivities. Given that the rest of our interviews tonight ended up being Melges teams, I had to mix it up a bit - and Roger was awesome.

 

They told me the coolest thing - that they owed SA big time. "Why?" I asked. "Because all the hits that we got from Sailing Anarchy helped to get Dockwise as a sponsor to move our boat around." Good on Dockwise, good on Roger, bummer that I won't get to race against him in the Lauderdale-Charleston race, as they are off to the Med.

 

Clean,

I am pleased that you were able to speak with Roger and Isobel. Drop me a PM if you are interested in seeing the boat and I will give you a tour and show you what makes it tick.

MP

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And yet more. . . . still only going through the first card -- another one to go. Sorry if you are looking for bigger, wider action crossing and perspective shots, I was on the rib and we were right in there, so most of these are close up individual boat action . . . I say that like its a bad thing . . . and sorry Bus Driver, one of my eight cabana boys just brought me my drink . . . . and with an injury no less!! :wub:

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Thanks for the photo of Yeoman. Added it to my collection. Good day on the water for us although the results don't show it. We are happy being the top of the small boats in the class as the TPs aren't really withing reach on handicap. Pretty good for a charter groups first outing (besides the feeder race of course).

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Hey Clean, just don't forget that an awful lot of those here don't get to sail one design like the 32's and 24's so the handicap fleets offer something to a lot of people. I've got friends down there in both groups and I'm equally interested. Plus the sheer boat porn of Rosebud doing a sweet chute drop is priceless.

Admit it: you'd give a nut to be on that boat for the week.

 

Cooper -- send me a PM with boat names and contact info . . . I may have shots of them. Keep in mind what I am posting here is completely unedited, straight off the camera and quickly sized for posting. Many adjustments could and should be made, some on the water and more off. But I'll share whatever I have. . . . pictures. I mean pictures!!

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hi......love your on the water report, love just hearing your voice, but i'm biased...........it's mama clean!!!!!!!!

Now THIS is funny. After three years of douchebags creating handles like Mama Clean and Grandma Clean to fuck with me, my actual mom finally posts in one of our reports. Gold!

 

 

Clean, I told you this in the tent, and I told you I'd say it here. You get slammed a lot of the time, but I've never had a problem with you and you work hard to support this sport, and it is clear that it is for the sheer love of it. My respect level for you went up about 1000 times today. For those of you that bash the OTW reporting, come here and spend even a day with it, and then talk to me. As for the rest of the shit you get . . . you are on your own!!! :lol:

 

And just because I probably haven't pissed enough people off with this post. . . . here's our backyard . . . .

Cypress House on Caroline?

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Thanks for the photo of Yeoman. Added it to my collection. Good day on the water for us although the results don't show it. We are happy being the top of the small boats in the class as the TPs aren't really withing reach on handicap. Pretty good for a charter groups first outing (besides the feeder race of course).

Please be sure to introduce yourself to me.

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hi......love your on the water report, love just hearing your voice, but i'm biased...........it's mama clean!!!!!!!!

Now THIS is funny. After three years of douchebags creating handles like Mama Clean and Grandma Clean to fuck with me, my actual mom finally posts in one of our reports. Gold!

 

 

Clean, I told you this in the tent, and I told you I'd say it here. You get slammed a lot of the time, but I've never had a problem with you and you work hard to support this sport, and it is clear that it is for the sheer love of it. My respect level for you went up about 1000 times today. For those of you that bash the OTW reporting, come here and spend even a day with it, and then talk to me. As for the rest of the shit you get . . . you are on your own!!! :lol:

 

And just because I probably haven't pissed enough people off with this post. . . . here's our backyard . . . .

Cypress House on Caroline?

 

Nope. I'm not giving up the locale.

 

These are the last batch for tonight -- sorry. The signal is only strong enough in the skipper's bedroom and he is going to sleep. I'll keep processing and post as soon as I can. Tomorrow is supposed to be good breeze on, so could be some good action out there. . . the pic of the people on the boat shooting the action is only part of the OTW team hard at work.

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What the hell is that Custom 41 ?? 41204? Man that is one whacky looking paint job to put it nicely.

 

That boat is from Sarasota owned by the Ulmman loft dealer, Doug Fisher. Just raced against that boat a couple of weeks ago (wiped me out at the start, thank you very much). It is very beamy, twin wheels, reminds me of a RTW style design, say an Open forty designed several years before there were any. Lifting keel and rudder (handy around Tampa Bay)

 

Should be a player for honors in PHRF1.

 

Doug is a major player too - He was the BM for Stars N' Stripes for the Mac Races - I understand he's got the previously submerged mast for her down in Sara

 

Is the boat coming back also?

 

I've been looking for it at the Squadron from time to time and haven't seen her - she stays on a ball out there (last I saw her)

 

SS lives behind the owners place. Boat is at the sail loft right now still in the cradle. Havent seen it on a mooring in Sarasota since the boat was bought a couple of years ago.

 

 

 

XS looked fast.

 

we were real slow today compared to Rush. Blaming it on rigtune and not sailing flat enough. Got killed downwind, dont know where the speed went. Should have much better starts tomorrow if we have our heads in gear.

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28) Warpath

29) Go Get Momma

30) Matador

31) Cujo

 

Warpath had a tough first day. Fetzer and co better get their shit moving!! Is their chaseboat getting in the way?

 

Maybe McMath was shitting himself again all day and the stench overpowered BT's sense of direction.

 

Hroth

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