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No one is picking up on Antoine's statement that Alinghi guys were regularly seen outside the BMWO site in Anacortes spying on the dogzilla construction. Not sexy enough because no one was arrested?

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No one is picking up on Antoine's statement that Alinghi guys were regularly seen outside the BMWO site in Anacortes spying on the dogzilla construction. Not sexy enough because no one was arrested?

 

And more recently, in low-flying aircraft. And before that, seaplanes landing near the shore!

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Damn - that is some funny shit. I told Stingray earlier, I'd go with my camera - but I am afraid of those fucking swiss cops. They've got no sense of humor in Switzerland - at all. Ask him if I said that stuff about four weeks ago. Alinghi has their little spy team in San Diego everyday - yet now they cry like little bitches because someone is taking photos of their site. Fuck them. Those are fucking pussies of the highest order. The whole Alinghi team is two-faced, back-stabbing bullshit. 'fair' is not in their vocabulary. They have spies, yet cry to the swiss police when BMWO comes around. I hate those fuckers.

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Deposition courtsey of Zero -

 

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Damn - that is some funny shit. I told Stingray earlier, I'd go with my camera - but I am afraid of those fucking swiss cops. They've got no sense of humor in Switzerland - at all. Ask him if I said that stuff about four weeks ago. Alinghi has their little spy team in San Diego everyday - yet now they cry like little bitches because someone is taking photos of their site. Fuck them. Those are fucking pussies of the highest order. The whole Alinghi team is two-faced, back-stabbing bullshit. 'fair' is not in their vocabulary. They have spies, yet cry to the swiss police when BMWO comes around. I hate those fuckers.

 

Fucking funny, you couldn't make this shit up. What's amazing is that BMWO sent someone to take photos that the Alinghi guys would recognise.

 

For those that don't know him, this is a recent shot of Manolo Ruiz de Elvira, evil spymaster -

 

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. . . just off the wire . . . gripping newsreel footage . . . seems like they weren't all as lucky as Schnappi . . .

Ahhhh...nostalgia!! Sir Richard Burton...the greatest Shakepearean actor ever...

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. . . just off the wire . . . gripping newsreel footage . . . seems like they weren't all as lucky as Schnappi . . .

Ahhhh...nostalgia!! Sir Richard Burton...the greatest Shakepearean actor ever...

 

 

. . . it's certainly a fast breaking story . . . seems like its already been serialised for TV . . . here's the first episode with the SNG/AL design team playing

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What's amazing is that BMWO sent someone to take photos that the Alinghi guys would recognise.

 

Not as amazing as, however, Alinghi sending Tom Schnack to Anacortes on a "spy" mission to recon DZ.

 

At least in that case, RC and crew had drinks with TS at the local pub.

 

But poor Antoine, Alinghi sicks the local constabulary on him.

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Deposition courtsey of Zero -

 

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Damn - that is some funny shit. I told Stingray earlier, I'd go with my camera - but I am afraid of those fucking swiss cops. They've got no sense of humor in Switzerland - at all. Ask him if I said that stuff about four weeks ago. Alinghi has their little spy team in San Diego everyday - yet now they cry like little bitches because someone is taking photos of their site. Fuck them. Those are fucking pussies of the highest order. The whole Alinghi team is two-faced, back-stabbing bullshit. 'fair' is not in their vocabulary. They have spies, yet cry to the swiss police when BMWO comes around. I hate those fuckers.

 

Fucking funny, you couldn't make this shit up. What's amazing is that BMWO sent someone to take photos that the Alinghi guys would recognise.

 

 

What's more amazing is that Alinghi would have a guy interrogated by the police for taking pictures of a tent that's plainly viewable from the street.

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What's amazing is that BMWO sent someone to take photos that the Alinghi guys would recognise.

 

Not as amazing as, however, Alinghi sending Tom Schnack to Anacortes on a "spy" mission to recon DZ.

 

At least in that case, RC and crew had drinks with TS at the local pub.

 

But poor Antoine, Alinghi sicks the local constabulary on him.

 

This whole spy episode is just like SNG's last AC protocol!!!! There are rules for you & we will enforce them but they don't apply to us :lol:

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What I find interesting is an English language report gathered from a Frenchman in (edit) France for (/edit) a country whose official languages include French but not English.

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What's more amazing is that Alinghi would have a guy interrogated by the police for taking pictures of a tent that's plainly viewable from the street.

I am here to tell you, I've been totally done by the cops in France taking photos in absolutely in public view. They don't have the same ideas about freedom of press there. Worse in Switzerland. Swiss cops are really boring when it comes to ideas like freedom. Swiss cops will do you for thinking about taking a photograph with impure intent - even if it is the sunset.

 

I knew this shit was likely sould I go - and on second consideration on this very point - I did not go. Fucking Alinghi is a garbage operation with no integrity whatever. The name 'Alinghi' is synonomous with shame at this point.

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in 20 years, when they write a dozen books on this America's Cup and the movie is out, we're all going to have a great big laugh (again) at the sheer ridiculasness of this.

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From the SJ Mercury News

 

America's Cup intrigue: Larry Ellison's America's Cup team hired spies to dig up information on the defending champions' boat, according to court papers filed by the Swiss syndicate that holds yachting's oldest trophy.

 

Billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli's Alinghi team alleged that they caught a spy hired by Ellison's BMW-Oracle Racing on Swiss property last month, and that the person later admitted he was part of a squad hired "to illegally break into facilities to take photographs and secure information about the defense boat."

 

Tom Ehman, a spokesman for Ellison's Golden Gate Yacht Club, said the Swiss were trying to dodge a previous court judgment making Ellison's team the regatta's official challenger by producing "trumped-up allegations that have nothing to do with the matter at hand."

 

The accusations contained in legal papers filed yesterday in New York State Supreme Court in Manhattan are the latest moves in an almost two-year legal fight between Ellison and Bertarelli over the rules for the 157-year-old America's Cup.

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

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This read like extraordinary rendition? Apprehended in Switzerland, and transferred to France for questioning?

 

Too bad the Guardian cannot web research even a tenth as well as Stingray.

 

Interpolated from SPY photos, yes those glider pilots Must be paid by BOR as well.

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Times Online (UK) article

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/mor...icle6276323.ece

In his court statement, Mr Bonnaveau, 50, denied acting illegally and said that all America's Cup competitors - including the Swiss outfit - sought to glean information about their rivals. "This type of information gathering on the competition is routine, Even Alinghi does it this way," he said.

 

"At the end of 2008, during the period of putting our own boat in the water in Anacortes in the United States and during our training in San Diego, we had to put up with the constant, bothersome presence of the Alinghi information team."

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Sail-world.com. Apologies if this was posted elsewhere.

 

Has lots more information

 

http://www.sail-world.com/USA/index.cfm?SE...amp;tickerCID=0

 

From the affidavit:

 

'18. On April 29, Team Alinghi SA a criminal complaint against Antoine Jean Bonnaveau, a French resident who is an employee of GGYC’s racing team, BMW Oracle Racing, in Lausanne, Switzerland, for violation of secrecy or privacy with the use of a photo camera device.

 

'19. Attached hereto as Exhibit 0 is a true and correct copy of the April 29, 2009 minutes of Mr. Bonnaveau’s hearing before the police in Montpellier, France, and a certified translation of the same.

 

'20. On April 28, 2009, Mr. Bonnaveau drove to Villeneuve, Switzerland to take pictures of the facilities operated there by Alinghi, SNG’s racing team, in order to gain information about boats Alinghi might use in its defence of the America’s Cup. He returned for the same purpose the next day.

 

'21. On April 29, 2009, Mr. Bonnaveau went back to the Alinghi tents and took measurements of various tents and structures at the site for the same purpose. He used GPS and a rangefinder to have a more precise idea of the proportions from the photographs he took.

 

'22. After he was detained by French authorities, Mr. Bonnaveau stated that he had been hired by BMW Oracle Racing in December 2007 to carry out these scoping activities on rival teams, and was paid a salary of €10,000 a month to do so. He further stated that he was part of an entire staff employed for this purpose, in what is referred to as a 'recon cell.'

 

'23. This criminal case has yet to be resolved, and it is not yet known when the investigating magistrate will render a verdict as to whether any laws were broken in connection with this incident.

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Times Online (UK) article

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/mor...icle6276323.ece

In his court statement, Mr Bonnaveau, 50, denied acting illegally and said that all America's Cup competitors - including the Swiss outfit - sought to glean information about their rivals. "This type of information gathering on the competition is routine, Even Alinghi does it this way," he said.

 

"At the end of 2008, during the period of putting our own boat in the water in Anacortes in the United States and during our training in San Diego, we had to put up with the constant, bothersome presence of the Alinghi information team."

 

 

This part is typical SNG double speak -

 

"A spokesman for the Swiss team said that it had photographed yachts after they had been unveiled, whereas BMW Oracle had tried to obtain confidential shots. "

 

We need to get Tom Clancey writing for us right away!!!

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AFP Wire Story

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...9ZsiAKhpK8B1kaA

 

It said Alinghi 'spies' were photographed several times by Oracle near its base and on the water in both Anacortes, Washington and in San Diego, California.

 

Here's one of the Alinghi Spy incidents we noted, this one from November but there are others too.

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This part is typical SNG double speak -

 

"A spokesman for the Swiss team said that it had photographed yachts after they had been unveiled, whereas BMW Oracle had tried to obtain confidential shots. "

 

As I mentioned on another thread, Alinghi was just as guilty of similar tactics when DZ was being built. But those "plumbers" weren't prosecuted.

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'20. On April 28, 2009, Mr. Bonnaveau drove to Villeneuve, Switzerland to take pictures of the facilities operated there by Alinghi, SNG’s racing team, in order to gain information about boats Alinghi might use in its defence of the America’s Cup.

Just like we've been exhorting everyone to do since the Where Is CheeZilla thread ever started! Hell, we got so desperate that we almost sent HHN92 over there!

 

He returned for the same purpose the next day.

Excellent!

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Somewhat oldish ESPN story, but has more bits

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=4160100

 

GGYC has said Alinghi is stalling to buy time to finish a massive catamaran, which some reports say will be 110 feet long.

 

 

According to the GGYC's memorandum, "the vessel is now still under construction," and a Certificate of Documentation can't be obtained from the Coast Guard until it is finished.

 

That suggests the trimaran has been dismantled and BMW Oracle Racing might be replacing some or all of the hulls and possibly the cross beams after the craft underwent three testing sessions since late last summer.

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This part is typical SNG double speak -

 

"A spokesman for the Swiss team said that it had photographed yachts after they had been unveiled, whereas BMW Oracle had tried to obtain confidential shots. "

 

Well at least he didn't repeat the mistake of using 'completed'.... Lol!

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos"

 

This read like extraordinary rendition? Apprehended in Switzerland, and transferred to France for questioning?

 

Too bad the Guardian cannot web research even a tenth as well as Stingray.

 

Interpolated from SPY photos, yes those glider pilots Must be paid by BOR as well.

 

 

not questioning

 

but under interrogation by specialist officers

 

would have thought the guardian knew the difference

 

probably be charged with conspiring to transport swine flu across boarders for immoral purposes

 

what would basel faulty have said?

 

"don't mention UBS"

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

Somehow in all of this Villeneuve got moved to France and Antoine wound up in an interrogation cell in Paris....

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

Somehow in all of this Villeneuve got moved to France and Antoine wound up in an interrogation cell in Paris....

 

Pretty sure that, under the Treaties of the Hague, that move by Lucien was just blatantly illegal!

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There are rules for you & we will enforce them but they don't apply to us

 

to me, the most amusing (?) part is that anti-spying agreements are part of a normal AC/MCMC protocol in recent years. But, due to Alinghi's intransigence, there *is* no protocol, and there's absolutely nothing in the DoG that precludes doing any damn spying you want. Have at it.

 

So, while it's sad for the guy if he broke the law, and potentially embarrasing (**) for BMWOR, the whole issue is a complete non-issue for the court proceedings in question. "Please, Mr. Ostrager, would you point out to us where the Deed specifies that gathering intelligence about the defender's yacht is prohibited?" feh.

 

(**) Having watched the Alinghi machine at work, I wouldn't be the *least* bit surprised if the guy was actually an Alinghi shill. My only question is who Erne$to gave more money, the guy, or Lucien for going on record with his "truthful account"?

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I follow www.tribord.com via Google translate. They have a great pic of Antoine up but if you scroll down further the SAAC CZ 3D's & drawing are plain for eveyrone to see. I wonder how soon now one of the SACC CZ pics makes a major news agency now.

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=e...tribormat.fr%2F

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On the bright side Antoine, you are probably the first person ever to be arrested for looking at a tent. One day soon that will make for a good laugh with friends.

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nzherald.co.nz

 

 

Yachting: Alinghi reveals America's Cup spying case

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/artic...jectid=10571987

 

 

"Alinghi officials acknowledge that they have had employees observe BMW Oracle Racing's trimaran sailing in Anacortes, Washington, and San Diego.

 

"Sailing is public knowledge," said Paco Latorre, a spokesman for Ernesto Bertarelli, the Swiss biotech tycoon who bankrolls the syndicate and sails on its crew. "It is very different to observe something that is public knowledge than to spy on something that is in a secure area. It's not the same."

 

Anyone know if the VAB is behind a solid fence completely closed in w/ signs saying "no tresspassing". Doesn't show up in the pics from my memory.

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

Somehow in all of this Villeneuve got moved to France and Antoine wound up in an interrogation cell in Paris....

 

Pretty sure that, under the Treaties of the Hague, that move by Lucien was just blatantly illegal!

 

 

LOL REALLY THE WHAT ?? TREATIES OF THE HAGUE ?? HAGUE IS VAGUE --OR VOGUE --NOW--LOL

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

Somehow in all of this Villeneuve got moved to France and Antoine wound up in an interrogation cell in Paris....

 

 

 

 

It's all pretty silly - ehman paying some guy 10k a month to go into their compound - imagine the moral outrage from the muppets here if they had caught an alinghi guy in the anorcotes compound with a camera! - photo's from a boat on the water is normal ac spying

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It's all pretty silly - ehman paying some guy 10k a month to go into their compound - imagine the moral outrage from the muppets here if they had caught an alinghi guy in the anorcotes compound with a camera! - photo's from a boat on the water is normal ac spying

In the compund or behind a fence and off the premises? It's not only normal AC spying, it's taking holiday pictures...

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Are there any documents at all from the French that show who actually made the complaint?

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol::lol::lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

Somehow in all of this Villeneuve got moved to France and Antoine wound up in an interrogation cell in Paris....

 

 

 

 

It's all pretty silly - ehman paying some guy 10k a month to go into their compound - imagine the moral outrage from the muppets here if they had caught an alinghi guy in the anorcotes compound with a camera! - photo's from a boat on the water is normal ac spying

 

Hasn't been stated "go into their compound " or broke in has it?

 

If it's in public view whether behind a chainlink fence, sitting in a parking lot, being trucked down the street or on the water it's fair game.

 

Like the SAAC pics of DZ's Pirate Lair at Core, it was fair game.

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IS there a link anywhere to the exhibit referred to in the affidavit?

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Are there any documents at all from the French that show who actually made the complaint?

 

 

BRO-

 

LUCIFERED LIED ON HIS AFFI-

 

AND THIS BELOW IS WHAT THE TRANSLATED DOC HAS --BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN SNG ETC-

 

SEE / LOOK AT PROSECUTING ...........

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IS there a link anywhere to the exhibit referred to in the affidavit?

It's Exhibit G and attached to LM's afidavit.

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Ouch

3 different threads on cheesegate. Can someone please combine them.

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On the bright side Antoine, you are probably the first person ever to be arrested for looking at a tent. One day soon that will make for a good laugh with friends.

 

 

Do not underestimate the seriousness of what naughty Antoine did.

 

Never forget the following.

The tent contained a chair!

 

A plastic one!

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Ouch

3 different threads on cheesegate. Can someone please combine them.

 

And that's what we did, sat in the back of the patrol car and drove to the quote Scene of the Crime unquote. I want tell you about the town of Villeneuve, where this happened here, they got three stop signs, two police officers, and one police car, but when we got to the Scene of the Crime there was five police officers and three police cars, being the biggest crime of the last fifty years, and everybody wanted to get in the newspaper story about it. And they was using up all kinds of cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer's station ...

 

They was taking plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and they took twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach, the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to mention the aerial photography.

 

You can't get anything you want at Ernesto's Restaurant ...

 

 

My apologies to Arlo Guthrie ...

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It is a shakedown.

 

They needed 3 cops to interogate Schnappi.

 

Sergeant Stephanie Loncq (is she a girl?)

 

Deputy Principal Insprector Marc Zeller

 

And Inspector Franck Palias from the Swiss police.

 

We will need photos of all three ASAP !

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It is a shakedown.

 

They needed 3 cops to interogate Schnappi.

 

Sergeant Stephanie Loncq (is she a girl?)

 

Deputy Principal Insprector Marc Zeller

 

And Inspector Franck Palias from the Swiss police.

 

We will need photos of all three ASAP !

 

Man that's great cooperation between 2 countries law enforcement. Is the crime rate really that low in France & Switzerland?

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

We.........are........so........busted.........man....................... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

 

 

And just in case...............I had no plans, have never been, know nothing, nothing at all about any trip to Villenueve, nothing at all...............

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Man that's great cooperation between 2 countries law enforcement. Is the crime rate really that low in France & Switzerland?

 

 

Maybe CSIS and the Mounties could learn from them!

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OMFG!

 

It is understood that at least one individual was arrested in the French town of Villeneuve. The suspect is believed to be under interrogation by specialist officers in Paris but the operation is so secret that police sources refused to provide any details, instead referring inquiries to the central information office of the French legal system.

 

Intriguingly, a 3D model of the "Alinghi vehicle assembly building – interpolated from spy photos" appeared on the YouTube website a fortnight ago. It is not known if the two incidents are linked.

 

:lol:X 1000

 

X 44 X 30 X 14 ... X 52 X 28 X 8 ... X 115 X 76 X 6 ...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpdkDnIB3Gc

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/dogzillabuzz

 

We.........are........so........busted.........man.......................

 

 

 

And just in case...............I had no plans, have never been, know nothing, nothing at all about any trip to Villenueve, nothing at all...............

Damn. Just one more reason not to visit France now......or Switzerland for that matter. At least until this blows over. Or until they adopt a real Constitution.

I did kinda want to see Bordeaux and La Rochelle.... c'est la vie!

 

Guess it's back to Greece and Italy. Oh, well.... :P

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One more, this one in HD

 

 

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You know I really think GGYC should have fun with this like Alinghi does with their cartoonist. Maybe GGYC or BMW oracle racing should get in touch with mo fuzz so they can post this stuff on their website. :D :D

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Back to cz design guessing duties....

 

If someone knocks at your door, it could be Lucifer and a French cop.

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NZ Herald updated story for May 14 -

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/yachting/news/ar...jectid=10572192

 

 

Yachting: Oracle employee admits spying on Alinghi

4:00AM Thursday May 14, 2009

 

Update content -

 

Reached on a Spanish cellphone that was listed in the police document, Bonnaveau confirmed he worked for BMWOracle Racing but refused to confirm details in the transcript.

 

"You read what you read, you believe what you believe," he said. "I don't have to answer to you."

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The mother links of Cheesegate spy articles from Google spy tool ;) -

 

 

Spy Tale Roils Muddied Waters in Cup Dispute

New York Times - ‎6 hours ago‎

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/sports/1...-BOATS.html?hpw

 

 

Spying accusations fly in America's Cup dispute

Swissinfo - ‎9 hours ago‎

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news_digest/Sp...38000&ty=nd

 

 

Sailing - Alinghi accuses BMW-Oracle of spying in lawsuit

Reuters India - ‎18 hours ago‎

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldOfSport...-39580320090512

 

 

 

Suspect held over espionage against Alinghi

guardian.co.uk - ‎18 hours ago‎

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/may/1...trial-espionage

 

 

 

Suspect held over espionage against Alinghi

guardian.co.uk - ‎18 hours ago‎

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/artic...9ZsiAKhpK8B1kaA

 

 

Alinghi reveals America's Cup spying case

The Associated Press - ‎May 12, 2009‎

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...lkbxvwD984R7R85

 

 

 

Ellison Hired America's Cup Spy Team, Alinghi Says

Bloomberg - ‎May 12, 2009‎

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home

 

 

 

ORACLE'S ELLISON IN COURT OVER YACHT ESPIONAGE

New York Post - ‎9 hours ago‎

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05132009/busin...tale_168950.htm

 

 

 

Alinghi accuses BMW Oracle of Spying

Yachting World - ‎10 hours ago‎

http://www.ybw.com/auto/newsdesk/200904130...erformance.html

 

 

 

 

Spying scandal hits America's Cup

World Radio Switzerland - ‎10 hours ago‎

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/wrsnews/spyi...cup.shtml?13627

 

 

 

Alinghi accuses BMW-Oracle of spying

Radio New Zealand - ‎10 hours ago‎

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/sport/2009/05/13/1245afe6d3ff

 

 

 

America's Cup rivals embroiled in bitter espionage storm

Times Online - ‎20 hours ago‎

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/mor...icle6276323.ece

 

 

 

Alinghi reveals America's Cup spying case

The Associated Press - ‎22 hours ago‎

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...lkbxvwD984SLD80

 

 

 

America's Cup espionage reported in Alinghi affidavit

Sail World - ‎21 hours ago‎

http://www.sail-world.com/USA/Americas-Cup...affidavit/56691

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c'est trés ridicule, n'é pas?

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One more, this one in HD

 

 

Back to cz design guessing duties....

 

If someone knocks at your door, it could be Lucifer and a French cop.

 

I can guarantee an appropriate response to either of those idiots setting foot in our little town.

 

We got your back Mo :P

 

I spent as much time folowing Alinghi spies around Anacortes last year as I did chasing DZ on the water. Completly clueless group.

 

WL

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Wow - Great freaking video! I swear, some of that footage is way better than the most of the shots we've seen.

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

The cameraman too, if he's smart.. Lol

 

Please translate some of what EB says about it? And where was he, when commenting on all this?

 

And what gets said, that makes you want to 'lay low'?

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

I don't understand a word ... two thoughts ...

 

Didn't the media do exactly what the BMWO "spy" is accused of? Took pictures through the fence?

 

Who is the cute dark haired chick frame left while Ernesto is talking? ;)

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

I don't understand a word ... two thoughts ...

 

Didn't the media do exactly what the BMWO "spy" is accused of? Took pictures through the fence?

 

Who is the cute dark haired chick frame left while Ernesto is talking? ;)

 

 

 

 

The hottie is the spy that Ellison has had planted inside Alinghi for a long time.

 

Allota Fagina, I believe is her name...

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

 

BRO GOOD CATCH AND THANKS FOR POSTING IT-

 

SO ITS WEIRD THE TENT NOW TELEVISED- ON GLOBAL NEWS IS NOT A MAJOR SWISS NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE--?? IN A WEEK +/- LOST THE PRIORITY?

 

SO IN ABOUT 10 DAYS IT WENT INTERPOL , FRANCE AND NY -GLOBAL ?

 

BERTARELLI LOOKED SCARED-AND COULD BARELY KEEP THE TEARS BACK FROM ALL THE TRAUMA THIS SPY BREACH HAS CAUSED-

 

HOW WILL HE BE ABLE TO CONTINUE UNDER SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITIONS-

 

HE WILL KEEP THE AC IN SWISS LAND --LIKE HE/THEY DID / DO THE MONEY--AND IRS TAX EVADERS LIST-

 

LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK [sWISS]

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Wow - Great freaking video! I swear, some of that footage is way better than the most of the shots we've seen.

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

The cameraman too, if he's smart.. Lol

 

Please translate some of what EB says about it? And where was he, when commenting on all this?

 

And what gets said, that makes you want to 'lay low'?

 

 

Nothing new here... Ernesto is just saying "Imagine you're having a shower and someone taking pictures with a big lense...at that alsio Orace has a dedicated team used for spying on Alinghy building progres"... In short just PR BS

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

 

Best intel shots yet!!!

 

Oophs, I was breaking the law looking through the fence. See ya...............

 

All of us will now be rounded up for watching that video.

 

Maybe it's legal to watch all that video of the tent.. but only if you are Swiss?

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

I don't understand a word ... two thoughts ...

 

Didn't the media do exactly what the BMWO "spy" is accused of? Took pictures through the fence?

 

Who is the cute dark haired chick frame left while Ernesto is talking? ;)

 

 

The blond in the background is way hotter.

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

 

Best intel shots yet!!!

 

Oophs, I was breaking the law looking through the fence. See ya...............

 

All of us will now be rounded up for watching that video.

 

Do you realize the steps that will now be required to move ANYTHING into that tent so that it is hidden from view, BO will say that the added security measures will extend the build MONTHS.

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

 

BRO GOOD CATCH AND THANKS FOR POSTING IT-

 

SO ITS WEIRD THE TENT NOW TELEVISED- ON GLOBAL NEWS IS NOT A MAJOR SWISS NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE--?? IN A WEEK +/- LOST THE PRIORITY?

 

SO IN ABOUT 10 DAYS IT WENT INTERPOL , FRANCE AND NY -GLOBAL ?

 

BERTARELLI LOOKED SCARED-AND COULD BARELY KEEP THE TEARS BACK FROM ALL THE TRAUMA THIS SPY BREACH HAS CAUSED-

 

HOW WILL HE BE ABLE TO CONTINUE UNDER SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITIONS-

 

HE WILL KEEP THE AC IN SWISS LAND --LIKE HE/THEY DID / DO THE MONEY--AND IRS TAX EVADERS LIST-

 

LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK [sWISS]

LOL :lol:

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Wow - Great freaking video! I swear, some of that footage is way better than the most of the shots we've seen.

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

The cameraman too, if he's smart.. Lol

 

Please translate some of what EB says about it? And where was he, when commenting on all this?

 

And what gets said, that makes you want to 'lay low'?

 

 

Nothing new here... Ernesto is just saying "Imagine you're having a shower and someone taking pictures with a big lense...at that alsio Orace has a dedicated team used for spying on Alinghy building progres"... In short just PR BS

But doesn't Ernesto also say something like "Antoine had confessed to spying"??

 

I didn't catch him admitting to anything illegal at all, in the transcript.

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

 

 

Best intel shots yet!!!

 

Oophs, I was breaking the law looking through the fence. See ya...............

 

All of us will now be rounded up for watching that video.

 

Maybe it's legal to watch all that video of the tent.. but only if you are Swiss?

 

 

What does "being Swiss" mean anyway? Seems if you are "Swiss" you are also either German, French, Italian, or Austrian.

 

Guess, I am an uncultured American redneck I s'pose. :lol:

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Swiss news item a couple of hours ago: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...15;vid=10694937

 

Wow - Great freaking video! I swear, some of that footage is way better than the most of the shots we've seen.

 

Shit, I am lying low now....

The cameraman too, if he's smart.. Lol

 

Please translate some of what EB says about it? And where was he, when commenting on all this?

 

And what gets said, that makes you want to 'lay low'?

 

 

Nothing new here... Ernesto is just saying "Imagine you're having a shower and someone taking pictures with a big lense...at that alsio Orace has a dedicated team used for spying on Alinghy building progres"... In short just PR BS

But doesn't Ernesto also say something like "Antoine had confessed to spying"??

 

I didn't catch him admitting to anything illegal at all, in the transcript.

 

You are correct.

 

Anybody have any idea how strong Swiss libel/slander/defamation/harassment statutes are?

 

Alinghi's "spin" is pretty much outright lying at this point, unless they have additional facts to offer.

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