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So, we're seeing the rails being used for the first time ..

Notice how they slid out the one rudder before lowering CZ on the cradles - I suppose they'd have a pit inside the tent for doing that on a routine basis

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Gonna make an excellent skid pan when they all pack up and leave

 

... with the AC-Trophy :)

 

Don't be to sure. The fine folks that run the RAK might seize the trophy for collateral when they realize EB fucked them in the corn hole without permission. :lol:

 

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So, we're seeing the rails being used for the first time ..

Almost looks like there are two sets of tracks set in the concrete, both running into the cat cave. Those stands pre-positioned to lower CZ onto, are the stands on rails? They look like they have wheels, don't they?

 

Clever way to ensure everything is lined up without having to use chalk or paint marks on the concrete. Presumably, they could even just push the boat in and out manually on those smooth rails?

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So, we're seeing the rails being used for the first time ..

Almost looks like there are two sets of tracks set in the concrete, both running into the cat cave. Those stands pre-positioned to lower CZ onto, are the stands on rails? They look like they have wheels, don't they?

 

Clever way to ensure everything is lined up without having to use chalk or paint marks on the concrete. Presumably, they could even just push the boat in and out manually on those smooth rails?

 

Yeah I noticed the same thing from the pictures, but what about sand clogging up the works? Or is that not a problem in the RAK? Those wheels sure look small.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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.. what about sand clogging up the works? Or is that not a problem in the RAK? Those wheels sure look small.

 

Sand? We all know there's no wind in RAK :lol:

Agree the wheels look small - wonder if they'll have a problem synchronizing movement on the two tracks (on large gantry cranes there's a single motor driving both sides via a common shaft, just for this purpose)

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.. what about sand clogging up the works? Or is that not a problem in the RAK? Those wheels sure look small.

 

Sand? We all know there's no wind in RAK :lol:

Agree the wheels look small - wonder if they'll have a problem synchronizing movement on the two tracks (on large gantry cranes there's a single motor driving both sides via a common shaft, just for this purpose)

 

you would think it would be stiff enough not to get outta alignment no? oh thats right its the cheezilla we are talking about, more twist than chubby checker

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.. what about sand clogging up the works? Or is that not a problem in the RAK? Those wheels sure look small.

 

Sand? We all know there's no wind in RAK :lol:

Agree the wheels look small - wonder if they'll have a problem synchronizing movement on the two tracks (on large gantry cranes there's a single motor driving both sides via a common shaft, just for this purpose)

 

Ah forget what I said about sand in the rails. Looking at the pictures again I now realize the rails only extend out from the shed a boats length so it can be picked up by a crane. One douche with a leaf blower can remedy any sand problems no? ;)

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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Alinghi V set to test waters

 

* Last Updated: October 05. 2009 10:05PM UAE / October 5. 2009 6:05PM GMT

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Alinghi V, the new yacht saddled with the responsibility of keeping the America’s Cup in the Swiss hands of multi-billionaire businessman Ernesto Bertarelli, should be sailing on Gulf waters before the end of next week.

 

Officials of the defending team who will be based in Al Hamra, Ras Al Khaimah (RAK), for the next four months in advance of the three-race series between February 8 to 12, would not specify their exact UAE launch date as extensive checks are being carried out on the gigantic catamaran.

 

Alinghi’s arrival at Saqr Port, RAK last week took place under a veil of secrecy because of concerns over possible damage on the 4,400-nautical-mile journey from its previous training base in Genoa, Italy.

 

Paco Latorre, head of marketing and communications at Alinghi, explained: “We didn’t want to make any announcement until our boat was off-loaded from the cargo ship and found to be safe. It took us a full day to establish that everything was intact.”

 

Once the state-of-the-art vessel – which is to be skippered by Australian Brad Butterworth – was given the all-clear it was towed from its landing bay to its new headquarters and docked ahead of schedule before 10 o’clock yesterday morning. The boat was then lifted by a crane and despatched into a specially prepared tented area.

 

Alinghi, which was originally launched on Lake Geneva and then lifted by helicopter to Genoa was dismantled for its journey down the Suez Canal to the Middle East.

 

Latorre disclosed: “We kept the hull [which measures 90ft x 90ft] in one piece but we detached the mast, the rigging and all the appendages to make the transportation as smooth as possible. The boat was then reassembled at our RAK base ready for its transfer to our new base.”

 

More than half of Alinghi’s team of 100 have now arrived in RAK to prepare for an intense training programme before the 33rd America’s Cup battle is joined with American challenger BMW Oracle Racing.

 

“Our personnel will work on a combination of training and boat development,” said Latorre. “The boat is very new so there may be some technical problems. The intention is to be sailing from Al Hamra village from the middle of the month.”

 

Latorre emphasised that he and his Alinghi colleagues are working on schedule for the defence of the Cup, despite the on-going threats to the racing taking place because of a series of court actions brought by BMW Oracle. “The message to the people of the UAE who want this competition to go ahead as planned is to be optimistic that this will be a great event. Hopefully one day they [Oracle] will end up showing up and we can get on with the racing instead of the litigation.

 

“The way we see it is that we keep moving forward in trying to have this competition on the water in RAK. We will have our entire team there in a week or so. What we want is to have a normal competition on the water instead of them disputing every decision that the Alinghi team make. We hope this is the last hiccup we have to deal with.”

 

Asked whether he thought that the Oracle team funded by software mogul Larry Ellison and led by Russell Coutts, renowned as one of the finest sailors in history, are scared of fronting up for the best-of-three series, Latorre said: “That’s what it looks like. They keep making excuses and putting forward legal arguments. It is like little kids, when they cry for the first time you pay attention. When they cry for the 10th time you say come on, sit down and be silent.”

 

Asked then for his opinion on whether the racing will actually take place, Latorre concluded: “It is difficult to predict what is going to happen. You never know what the courts are going to decide.

 

“We have declared our intentions by arriving in RAK. But it’s not only us but our opponents. BMW Oracle have people and equipment and the logistics to go to RAK. It’s a bit of a double language they are speaking. One one hand they are contesting matters in court and on the other getting ready and sending people and equipment to RAK.”

 

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Alinghi V set to test waters

 

* Last Updated: October 05. 2009 10:05PM UAE / October 5. 2009 6:05PM GMT

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Alinghi V, the new yacht saddled with the responsibility of keeping the America’s Cup in the Swiss hands of multi-billionaire businessman Ernesto Bertarelli, should be sailing on Gulf waters before the end of next week.

 

Once the state-of-the-art vessel – which is to be skippered by Australian Brad Butterworth

 

 

Finally ... they are talking sense.

The Fat Friar has been dispatched to the sunburnt country.

 

Hooooooooray !

 

post-23687-1254777069_thumb.jpg

 

Captain Bertarelli and his Aussie mate Brad

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"Asked whether he thought that the Oracle team funded by software mogul Larry Ellison and led by Russell Coutts, renowned as one of the finest sailors in history, are scared of fronting up for the best-of-three series, Latorre said: “That’s what it looks like. They keep making excuses and putting forward legal arguments. It is like little kids, when they cry for the first time you pay attention. When they cry for the 10th time you say come on, sit down and be silent.”

 

Asked then for his opinion on whether the racing will actually take place, Latorre concluded: “It is difficult to predict what is going to happen. You never know what the courts are going to decide.

 

“We have declared our intentions by arriving in RAK. But it’s not only us but our opponents. BMW Oracle have people and equipment and the logistics to go to RAK. It’s a bit of a double language they are speaking. One one hand they are contesting matters in court and on the other getting ready and sending people and equipment to RAK.”

 

Interesting POV. Didn't SNG not learn in the last round of NYSC?

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Amusing piece here,

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RAK (rhymes with)

By kimball | Published: October 5, 2009

 

There is no entry in the CIA Factbook for Ras Al Khaimah, the maybe-yes maybe-no site of the alleged next America’s Cup. The Defender is on-site. The Challenger says he ain’t goin’. But what is this little-known spot in the United Arab Emirates? Obviously, they ponied up for some action to generate publicity, so here goes. At raktourism.com the Lifestyle page shows a casually clad Western female and companion strolling along a glittering beach, but I am under the impression that their own women live quite covered up, thank you, and it’s these contradictions that lend a head-on-collision fascination to this part of our shrinking world.

 

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Amusing piece here,

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RAK (rhymes with)

By kimball | Published: October 5, 2009

 

There is no entry in the CIA Factbook for Ras Al Khaimah, the maybe-yes maybe-no site of the alleged next America’s Cup. The Defender is on-site. The Challenger says he ain’t goin’. But what is this little-known spot in the United Arab Emirates? Obviously, they ponied up for some action to generate publicity, so here goes. At raktourism.com the Lifestyle page shows a casually clad Western female and companion strolling along a glittering beach, but I am under the impression that their own women live quite covered up, thank you, and it’s these contradictions that lend a head-on-collision fascination to this part of our shrinking world.

 

contd

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KL is back with this one.............

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Isn't there a rudder missing?

 

Either they forgot to tape over the cotter pin :ph34r: or they needed just one to provide directional stability while towing ..

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And on the hard, pics in wrong order... (courtesy Alinghi Friends)

Isn't there a rudder missing?

 

That's the new SNG club rule -only one rudder per boat- ISAF sanctioned.

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Alinghi V set to test waters

 

* Last Updated: October 05. 2009 10:05PM UAE / October 5. 2009 6:05PM GMT

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Alinghi V, the new yacht saddled with the responsibility of keeping the America’s Cup in the Swiss hands of multi-billionaire businessman Ernesto Bertarelli, should be sailing on Gulf waters before the end of next week.

 

Once the state-of-the-art vessel – which is to be skippered by Australian Brad Butterworth

 

 

Finally ... they are talking sense.

The Fat Friar has been dispatched to the sunburnt country.

 

 

Hooooooooray !

 

post-23687-1254777069_thumb.jpg

 

Captain Bertarelli and his Aussie mate Brad

Well I noticed that and while I can not speek for all of the sunburnt country I think most sailors would not want him.

 

Brad please find a new place to call home as most of the Aussies would not want you!!!!!

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Alinghi V set to test waters

 

* Last Updated: October 05. 2009 10:05PM UAE / October 5. 2009 6:05PM GMT

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Alinghi V, the new yacht saddled with the responsibility of keeping the America's Cup in the Swiss hands of multi-billionaire businessman Ernesto Bertarelli, should be sailing on Gulf waters before the end of next week.

 

Once the state-of-the-art vessel – which is to be skippered by Australian Brad Butterworth

 

 

Finally ... they are talking sense.

The Fat Friar has been dispatched to the sunburnt country.

 

Hooooooooray !

 

post-23687-1254777069_thumb.jpg

 

Captain Bertarelli and his Aussie mate Brad

 

 

 

hahahaha I will 'LOL' myself to sleep with this one!! after loosing the champions trophy final to those aussies it seems fair that karma will give us some good news in the form of us being rid of our nation's biggest sailing disgrace!! :lol:

 

Be gone Bradley! dont let the Qantas lounge door smack you as you leave for the flight to sydney! :P

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Amusing piece here,

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RAK (rhymes with)

By kimball | Published: October 5, 2009

 

There is no entry in the CIA Factbook for Ras Al Khaimah, the maybe-yes maybe-no site of the alleged next America's Cup. The Defender is on-site. The Challenger says he ain't goin'. But what is this little-known spot in the United Arab Emirates? Obviously, they ponied up for some action to generate publicity, so here goes. At raktourism.com the Lifestyle page shows a casually clad Western female and companion strolling along a glittering beach, but I am under the impression that their own women live quite covered up, thank you, and it's these contradictions that lend a head-on-collision fascination to this part of our shrinking world.

 

contd

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KL is back with this one.............

Dunno about that. Fairly xenophobic p.o.v. expressed there. He may have a 'head on collision' fascination because he cannot rectify UAE - or Arab for that matter - culture with American or western culture. But that's his problem. I found the article rather disdainful and dismissive - unnecessarily and ignorantly so. If the most significant cultural quirk about RAK is robotic camel racing then what a wonderful place it must be, compared to the cultural 'quirks' and exports in the land that Kimball calls home....

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Is there a new sponsor name on the back of the boat?

http://twitpic.com/kci80/full

 

'BALE' ? (snmall screen here)

 

 

A5 has had this for some time. The home port? There is a whole thread on this somewhere.

 

Basel, the Swiss city, for which the French name is Bâle

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Is there a new sponsor name on the back of the boat?

http://twitpic.com/kci80/full

 

'BALE' ? (snmall screen here)

 

They complained last monday in the free newspapaer 20minutes, that no sponsor want to come aboard!

 

Logical with the lack of visibility that they have on the event schedule and location, even 4 month away from the start... Who would be crazy enough to stick millions in a so unsure project! Will they ever race? not even sure!

 

http://www.20min.ch/ro/news/economie/story...linghi-22536914

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So, we're seeing the rails being used for the first time ..

Almost looks like there are two sets of tracks set in the concrete, both running into the cat cave. Those stands pre-positioned to lower CZ onto, are the stands on rails? They look like they have wheels, don't they?

 

Clever way to ensure everything is lined up without having to use chalk or paint marks on the concrete. Presumably, they could even just push the boat in and out manually on those smooth rails?

 

 

ah, you mean like they do it with BOR (or USA, or whatever)?

No, they use Crayons and finger paint in San Diego ........

 

:P

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Is there a sailmaker in the audience, who has anything to note about the new wardrobe?

 

Edit: And new post is up at http://valenciasailing.blogspot.com/

 

Please, there must be someone around here who isn't a full-time ambulance-chasing quarreler at large...

 

Maybe not! :lol:

 

I've just got a wide-angle shot of the first mainsail to refer to at the moment. It looks like this one (today's photo) has more space between the upper battens, and that the headsail is also higher aspect. Or what?

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May just be piss talk but i have just got off the old dog and bone with the beloved and she informs me that if anyone wants a ride on a bloody big two hulled boat based at RAK it might be worth there while to turn up at Al Hamra marina next Friday.

 

Astrid,DD get the video cameras out.

 

To be continued once the gen comes in.

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Bertarelli renewed his challenge to BOR to get their butts over to RAK today, and that some sort of 'consolation event' would be held if BOR doesn't show:

And while EB regretted not being able to sail Friday, he was at the helm today.

 

Bertarelli: "affrontons-nous sur l'eau!"

Répondant aux questions concernant le septième recours déposé en justice par Oracle concernant le lieu choisi par le defender, Ernesto Bertarelli a joué la carte du compétiteur. «Allez maintenant, on arrête et on s'affronte sur l'eau! Nous avons un accord avec les autorités de RAK. Si Oracle ne veut pas venir, d'autres équipes seront ravies de nous rejoindre.» Mais ce ne serait pas pour la Cup, le syndicat américain ayant été désigné challenger par la Cour de New York.

 

De manière plus légère, le boss d'Alinghi a par ailleurs avoué sa «jalousie» envers ses employés et coéquipiers, qui ont pu naviguer pour la première fois dans le Golfe Persique avec le nouveau catamaran vendredi, tandis que l'ancien propriétaire de Serono n'était pas encore sur place. Une frustration rapidement oubliée quelques instants plus tard, au large de RAK, à la barre du magnifique Alinghi 5.

 

from TSR.ch: http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...mp;sid=11366629

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what a stumpy little mast.

Despite what I said earlier, when I study the old photos I can't see any clear difference between this mast/sails, and what they were using in Switz/Genoa.

So that remains to be sailed with. Luc has his hands full!

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From the first piece at VS

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Alinghi press conference in Ras Al Khaimah - First Alinghi 5 sail

 

Alinghi held on Saturday a presentation in Ras Al Khaimah in order to make "official" its arrival in the emirate and carry out the first "official" sail in front of the media as well as a large number of local and Swiss guests. Here's our first initial report. It will be completed step by step as we work through the transcript of the press conference and the photos and videos.

 

There wasn't any extraordinary announcement made this morning in the Al Hamra Golf Club. Both Ernesto Bertarelli, Alinghi's owner, and Dr Khater Massaad, CEO of RAK Investment Authority, repeatedly stressed the suitability of the chosen venue to host the 33rd America's Cup next February and urged BMW Oracle to come here, settle in their base and race. Nothing new there. The infrastructure works continue frantically, in fact there were crew building and dredging at 2am when we arrived from the airport. According to Dr Massaad, the civil works for BMW Oracle's base are ready and the Americans could have a fully operational base just 3 weeks after they specify their needs.

 

After the presentation, the media embarked on a number of tenders to follow the first "official" test sail of Alinghi 5, the "unofficial" one having taken place on Friday. Unfortunately, wind conditions were on the light side and didn't provide us with any heart beating moments. Wind speed ranged from 4 to 7 knots and Alinghi 5 reached a top speed of just over 15 knots without the crew pushing her hard but there was no hull flying, probably to the disappointment of the large Swiss delegation. During their first training session on Friday the Swiss team sailed in winds that reached 11 knots, pushing Alinghi 5 up to 20 knots of boat speed.

 

(contd)

 

 

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From the first piece at VS

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Alinghi press conference in Ras Al Khaimah - First Alinghi 5 sail

 

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Interesting bit here, didn't realize it till now:

 

We will later write in depth about the specifics of the proposed race area. One thing is for sure, we ventured 10 miles off the RAK coast and we didn't meet any threatening Iranian ribs or chase boats. The sea off RAK being very shallow, the starting line of the race will have to be placed approximately at a distance of 4-5 miles from the coast, in order to meet with the minimum requirements as set by the Deed of Gift.

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The sea off RAK being very shallow, the starting line of the race will have to be placed approximately at a distance of 4-5 miles from the coast, in order to meet with the minimum requirements as set by the Deed of Gift.[/i]

Freak out, Larry! :lol:

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The sea off RAK being very shallow, the starting line of the race will have to be placed approximately at a distance of 4-5 miles from the coast, in order to meet with the minimum requirements as set by the Deed of Gift.[/i]

Freak out, Larry! :lol:

Why bother building the spectator stands along the shore that Mr B has referred to, if they have to be so far out? In Valencia you can see the boats from the beach, see them well with binoculars .This is quite a long way out there, it did surprise me it is so shallow.

 

4-5 miles to get 22'? :blink:

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Wind speed ranged from 4 to 7 knots and Alinghi 5 reached a top speed of just over 15 knots without the crew pushing her hard but there was no hull flying, probably to the disappointment of the large Swiss delegation. During their first training session on Friday the Swiss team sailed in winds that reached 11 knots, pushing Alinghi 5 up to 20 knots of boat speed.

So, If they aren't flying a hull in 4-7 knots and they had 11 knots of wind on the first day out, what conditions did they design A5 for and why did they choose RAK as a light wind venue if there are 11 knot days :o

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So, If they aren't flying a hull in 4-7 knots and they had 11 knots of wind on the first day out, what conditions did they design A5 for and why did they choose RAK as a light wind venue if there are 11 knot days :o

Sounds quite dangerous to me..

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This is quite a long way out there, it did surprise me it is so shallow.

 

You know about all these fancy islands that the Emirates are building in the sea, like the Palm Islands and the RAK Marjan island that the Alinghi has to pass every time she goes out to sea?

 

If it was not shallow it would have not been so easy or even possible to build these.

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This is quite a long way out there, it did surprise me it is so shallow.

 

You know about all these fancy islands that the Emirates are building in the sea, like the Palm Islands and the RAK Marjan island that the Alinghi has to pass every time she goes out to sea?

 

If it was not shallow it would have not been so easy or even possible to build these.

Good point, probably should have been obvious.

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Wind speed ranged from 4 to 7 knots and Alinghi 5 reached a top speed of just over 15 knots without the crew pushing her hard but there was no hull flying, probably to the disappointment of the large Swiss delegation. During their first training session on Friday the Swiss team sailed in winds that reached 11 knots, pushing Alinghi 5 up to 20 knots of boat speed.

If A5 is only going 20 knots in 11 knots of wind, Alinghi is toast.

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Wind speed ranged from 4 to 7 knots and Alinghi 5 reached a top speed of just over 15 knots without the crew pushing her hard but there was no hull flying, probably to the disappointment of the large Swiss delegation. During their first training session on Friday the Swiss team sailed in winds that reached 11 knots, pushing Alinghi 5 up to 20 knots of boat speed.

If A5 is only going 20 knots in 11 knots of wind, Alinghi is toast.

I don't believe any of the boat speed claims for a second if she was being pushed at all.

 

That was the first thing that stood out as misinformation in the release.

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funny in a laugh/cry sorta way:

 

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Cup dispute is a ‘horror story’

 

William Johnson, Chief Sports Writer

 

* Last Updated: October 18. 2009 12:30AM UAE / October 17. 2009 8:30PM GMT

[pic]

The Alinghi yacht takes to the waters of Ras al Khaimah for the first time yesterday with the American challengers BMW Oracle still complaining about the venue. Jeffrey E Biteng / The National

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Ernesto Bertarelli, leader of the Alinghi syndicate seeking a hat-trick of America’s Cup wins, yesterday likened the build up to the 33rd staging of the competition to a horror film.

 

Bertarelli, the Swiss multi-billionaire, had spent only a few hours in the chosen venue of Ras al Khaimah when he launched the latest broadside in the battle of the high seas with the American challenging camp bankrolled by the even wealthier Larry Ellison.

 

Ellison, owner of BMW Oracle, has said his team do not feel safe competing in RAK due to the proximity to Iran.

 

“Sometimes when I read the press releases coming out of BMW Oracle I feel that I am reading the trailer for a Hollywood movie,” said Bertarelli. “My kids have been dressing up getting ready for Halloween over the past couple of days so it’s in fashion to come out with horror stories. Do they [Oracle] think we don’t know that 40 per cent of the world’s oil traffic goes down the Strait of Hormuz?

 

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Optimism reigns at RAK

 

William Johnson, Chief Sports Writer

 

* Last Updated: October 17. 2009 9:38PM UAE / October 17. 2009 5:38PM GMT

 

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Sheikh Omar bin Saqr al Qasimi, left, Ernesto Bertarelli, centre, and Dr Khater Massaad at Alinghi’s launch on to the Gulf waters. Jeffrey E Biteng / The National

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // The man fronting the plan to host the America’s Cup next February refuses to be distracted from his mission by the apparent reluctance of one of the two competing teams to come to the Ras Al Khaimah (RAK) starting line.

 

Dr Khater Massaad, RAK’s Minister of Tourism and a special adviser to Sheikh Saud bin Saqr al Qasimi, dismissed suggestions that his decision last week to cancel a proposed trip to San Francisco to meet leading members of the challenging BMW Oracle Racing team had jeopardised the staging of the competition.

 

Massaad was at pains yesterday to dispel any hint that he favours the defending syndicate of Alinghi, funded by the Swiss tycoon Ernesto Bertarelli, over the Oracle camp bankrolled by American software mogul Larry Ellison.

 

Sitting alongside Bertarelli at the media conference to celebrate Alinghi’s launch on to Gulf waters to begin preparations for the defence of the world’s oldest international sporting trophy, Massaad said: “We are willing to do anything they [Oracle] want to get them here. I have told their team that they are welcome and that we will treat them just the same as we are treating Alingi.

 

“We know that this is a major international event and you have to be fair to all competitors. We are not Alinghi partners. We are happy Alinghi has chosen RAK as the venue but right now our duty is to make sure that RAK is the right venue for everybody. We don’t want anybody to feel that we are treating anybody specially.”

 

Massaad revealed that he felt in an invidious position preparing to travel to the United States to meet Ellison and his advisers in the wake of a court action brought by Oracle claiming unsuitability of RAK on security grounds.

 

“I booked my flight ticket, I booked my hotel,” he said. “I was desperately disappointed to see them say that RAK was not a suitable venue. I cancelled the meeting because of that.”

 

“But I still want to meet them and I have no problem meeting them anywhere they like. Oracle sent a delegation here a month ago. I had the impression that they were satisfied and they said they would come back to me with some news. I then had the offer from Mr Ellison to meet him and I agreed to go to see him.”

 

The sands of time are running out on the chances of the cream of ocean racing doing battle off the UAE coastline but Massaad insisted that there is still time to make sure that the three-race event takes place as planned.

 

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When did they lose the S foils? Are they coming back?

 

 

Awesome pic and boat!!!! Ah, boat porn at it's best :)

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funny in a laugh/cry sorta way:

 

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Cup dispute is a ‘horror story’

 

William Johnson, Chief Sports Writer

 

* Last Updated: October 18. 2009 12:30AM UAE / October 17. 2009 8:30PM GMT

[pic]

The Alinghi yacht takes to the waters of Ras al Khaimah for the first time yesterday with the American challengers BMW Oracle still complaining about the venue. Jeffrey E Biteng / The National

 

RAS AL KHAIMAH // Ernesto Bertarelli, leader of the Alinghi syndicate seeking a hat-trick of America’s Cup wins, yesterday likened the build up to the 33rd staging of the competition to a horror film.

 

Bertarelli, the Swiss multi-billionaire, had spent only a few hours in the chosen venue of Ras al Khaimah when he launched the latest broadside in the battle of the high seas with the American challenging camp bankrolled by the even wealthier Larry Ellison.

 

Ellison, owner of BMW Oracle, has said his team do not feel safe competing in RAK due to the proximity to Iran.

 

“Sometimes when I read the press releases coming out of BMW Oracle I feel that I am reading the trailer for a Hollywood movie,” said Bertarelli. “My kids have been dressing up getting ready for Halloween over the past couple of days so it’s in fashion to come out with horror stories. Do they [Oracle] think we don’t know that 40 per cent of the world’s oil traffic goes down the Strait of Hormuz?

 

contd

 

EB - “That’s what the America’s Cup does – it creates wonderful venues for our sport and that is what we need to keep going forward. RAK can become a world-class home for sailing on the basis of hosting this competition.”

 

Looks like time to revisit putting home waters in your country back into the Deed ;)

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Awesome pic and boat!!!! Ah, boat porn at it's best :)

Fore and aft trim looks mighty improved - how did they manage that? :huh:

 

Brad butter braines is up the bow looking for his snack ;);)

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Awesome pic and boat!!!! Ah, boat porn at it's best :)

Fore and aft trim looks mighty improved - how did they manage that? :huh:

 

Brad butter braines is up the bow looking for his snack ;);)

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You know about all these fancy islands that the Emirates are building in the sea, like the Palm Islands and the RAK Marjan island that the Alinghi has to pass every time she goes out to sea?

 

If it was not shallow it would have not been so easy or even possible to build these.

Is this the location? Satellite photo must be old? Unable so far to find any nautical charts or weather (wind!) maps of the area online:

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source....google.webcams

 

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Found this updated(?) map here showing the Al Marjan island: http://rakmaps.com/

 

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Honestly, what is wrong with that location for a multihull race? There is a nice breeze, its always sunny, no freak weather patterns etc.

It has a govt. who is literally willing to spend whatever it takes to keep both syndicates happy, they have already built them an island.

I also dont think this DoG match which, lets be honest, is extreme decadent could count on any support in Spain.

Spain has been hit the hardest of any european country by this recession (20% unemployment!), they have more important matters to worry about than a billionaire fight.

 

The way I see it Alingi got hold of a decent location that will cost them nothing and has little strings attached (afaik).

GGYCs treatment of the RAK officials (letting them fly over to tell them they are'nt coming) doesnt deserve any medals,

in my experience of the Arab world is that they care a lot about hospitality and like to be treated the same as they treat their guests.

 

 

 

Another thing that is bothering me lately is that the SA-AC forum is turning into a BOR-fanclub where they can do no wrong and are always right.

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