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Groupama 3 damaged and out of jules verne

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Groupama 3 has suffered major damage and is now trying to get to Cape Town SA. Déjà vu all over again.

 

 

Crap!

 

I was watching the video of the guy crawling through that bulkhead to check the float out in the calm weather. It did cross my mind that it is a big cut out for a small bulkhead.

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Got a link to that VMG?

 

It's there :

 

http://www.cammas-groupama.com/do/mediathe...295〈=fr

 

english :

 

http://www.cammas-groupama.com/do/mediathe...296〈=en

 

in the video part media library last video

 

Otherwise Cammas was saying that they might repair in Cape Town, go back to France and restart before January if possible ! :unsure:

 

(would worry about structural design ...)

 

But they were pushing really hard in order to stay in the front part of the low with a front swell ...

 

Too bad, they could have kept this low up to the Kerguelen normally ...

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Home > Races > Jules Verne Trophy > Latest news

 

2009/11/16-17h00

Damage, destination Cape Town

Jules Verne Trophy 2009 - 2010

It was at 1216 UT on Monday 16th November, that the skipper of Groupama 3, Franck Cammas, called the Jules Verne Trophy team to inform them that an aft beam bulkhead had broken, leading to serious damage to the float. Despite the storm, Groupama 3 is slowly making headway towards Cape Town some 1,700 miles away (3,000 km) and is therefore abandoning this particular Jules Verne Trophy...

 

Groupama 3 - © Yvan Zedda

 

At around 1200 UT this Monday, a big cracking sound dashed the hopes of Franck Cammas and his nine crew in their bid to break Orange 2's round the world record from back in 2005 (50 d 16h 20'). A bulkhead attached to the aft beam simply gave up the ghost in the harsh conditions as the giant trimaran was sailing with her sails angled at 90° to the true wind in a powerful NNE'ly air flow and rough seas. The crew knew they had to go fast to stay in the right sector of the warm front, hot on their heels, in order to drop down towards the Cape of Good Hope with the Brazilian low. The resulting weakness then caused the windward float to fissure and, in light of the sizeable damage, the crew immediately stopped the boat and concluded that it would be necessary to abandon this round the world attempt.

 

"We'd spent the night sailing fast to stay ahead of the front and this morning Thomas Coville and Bruno Jeanjean were on deck when they heard a big `crack': there was a small fissure between the aft beam and the port float. Conditions were really bouncy: we came to a standstill with the wind right on our tail so as to be able to open the hatch and get down inside the float. Part of the section between the beam and the float level with the bulkhead had become detached. As such the structural integrity was reduced by at least half. It is impossible to envisage effecting repairs at sea due to the motion. At the moment we're still being shaken about: there was 35 knots of wind on the beam at the moment the incident occurred and just now, we've been caught up by the front so we've got 40 knots of breeze...

We've dumped the mainsail and Groupama 3 is running before the wind to avoid any harsh motion. We're going to draw up a route to avoid having too much wind and excessive waves. We're heading South to let the second low pass by us tonight and then we'll head off towards Cape Town tomorrow morning, Tuesday. We're continuing with the same watch system and I'm working with Stan to see what we can do next. The idea then is to get back to France as quickly as possible: the crew's up for that and if we can set off again before the end of January then it's still feasible to make a new attempt!" indicated Franck Cammas during a telephone link-up early this afternoon.

 

Present during this telephone interview with Franck, Director of External Communication at Groupama Frédérique Granado, explained the situation: "The most important thing is that the crew are safe and sound. Our priority is that they make Cape Town under the safest possible conditions. We know we can count on their experience and their determination to preserve Groupama 3. Hearing them allude to a new departure this winter is the best proof of this."

 

Heading towards Africa

As such the wisest solution is to quickly make for port to get a better idea of the true scale of the damage and above all prevent the situation from worsening. Cape Town, around 1,700 miles ahead of the giant trimaran's bows, will be the quickest pitstop to get to and the sea and wind conditions aren't too bad. Nevertheless, it's going to take a week's sailing for Groupama 3 to tie up to the dock and then be repaired prior to heading North again bound for France.

Clearly the ten men are very disappointed after this ten and a half day planetary adventure. The trimaran had confirmed her fantastic performance by racking up over 700 miles on her way down the North Atlantic and by considerably improving on her own reference time between Ushant and the equator: 5 days 15 hours 23 minutes!

 

At the point the damage occurred, Groupama 3 still had a 345 mile lead over Orange 2 (that is over half a day) and was making headway at an average speed in excess of 25 knots, on a direct course towards the Kerguelen archipelago. Having hooked onto a Brazilian low on Sunday, after a particularly slow weekend, Franck Cammas and his nine crew were fast approaching the Roaring Forties.

They have since been stopped dead in their tracks but, as Franck highlights, they're more motivated than ever to effect repairs and set off again as soon as possible this winter for another attempt.

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well..if they will fix the boat and than go back and try another time than they will not be back for any AC stuff , wont they ?

 

Thor

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sheeeeeeeeeit. It was fun while it lasted. They were kicking ass.

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Not if Banc Populaire starts off. As it was even if they had set the ercord on this attempt they would likely have only held it for a short time until BP destroys it. Unfortunately for them G3 was obsolete before it even left the shed the first time.

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That's assuming, of course, that BP runs the JV route without structural mishaps herself.

 

BP is a very big boat that is working in totally uncharted territory from a design perspective. The forces at work out there are enormous and every year, there's more junk in the water and not less.

 

Best of luck to them should they give it a go. That's a major sack environment down south, especially at the speeds they will be running.

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These breakages by Group Ama really highlight how strong and well designed the French tri Geronimo was. Yes it was much heavier and slower but it took a brutal pounding near Cape Horn that although damaged it a bit would have most likely completely distroyed.both GA and BP in short order.

 

With these newer much lighter designs they have set the stage for Southern Ocean disasters. Great sailors are going to die on these lightweight tri's sooner rather than later.

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These breakages by Group Ama really highlight how strong and well designed the French tri Geronimo was. Yes it was much heavier and slower but it took a brutal pounding near Cape Horn that although damaged it a bit would have most likely completely distroyed.both GA and BP in short order.

 

With these newer much lighter designs they have set the stage for Southern Ocean disasters. Great sailors are going to die on these lightweight tri's sooner rather than later.

 

I dont think so....... <_<

 

these platforms dont sink.... :unsure: like lead mines...

 

all the little bits float..... :P

 

I would suggest the crews, racing any of the mono hulls, have a much greater chance of disaster...

 

but today's designs are safer than they ever have been..

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These breakages by Group Ama really highlight how strong and well designed the French tri Geronimo was. Yes it was much heavier and slower but it took a brutal pounding near Cape Horn that although damaged it a bit would have most likely completely distroyed.both GA and BP in short order.

 

With these newer much lighter designs they have set the stage for Southern Ocean disasters. Great sailors are going to die on these lightweight tri's sooner rather than later.

 

 

No need to have a dig at trimarans matey.

 

how many of the 60' monos with the wibbly-wobbly keels broke down on the last solo round the world?

 

It's just the nature of racing machines, they are always built right down to the limit- please leave it at that.

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Not if Banc Populaire starts off. As it was even if they had set the ercord on this attempt they would likely have only held it for a short time until BP destroys it. Unfortunately for them G3 was obsolete before it even left the shed the first time.

 

 

G3 proved much faster in the lighter conditions across the Atlantic. A few more miles and the end and she would have passed BP.

BP is likely to be slower up and down the Altantic, but faster down south, where she can hold onto a weather system all the way round.

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Groupama 3 had Stan Honey. He wins everything and his records stand a long time. This was a lock barring breakage.

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I can tell you that they are in the inner harbor at capetown, lowered some machines in and are working on a repair. Wouldn't talk with us but I got some photo's from the peir. Their tied up the the S.A. AC shed/peir, amazing that thing fits into the inner harbor, that channel looks to small!

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Overheard in the YC on Wednesday after racing someone saying they would be leaving soon for France on Groupama, maybe they are trying again. Here is some pictures we took last sunday in Capetown.

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Don't you think with all the money that they spent on that boat they could have included a canvas cover for the mainsail instead of using a grey tarp?

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Don't you think with all the money that they spent on that boat they could have included a canvas cover for the mainsail instead of using a grey tarp?

 

Uhhh, they didn't have any expectation of being in a harbor before being back in France. Don't think the repair crew that went out to Cape Town were thinking about making the boat look good.

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Don't you think with all the money that they spent on that boat they could have included a canvas cover for the mainsail instead of using a grey tarp?

 

Uhhh, they didn't have any expectation of being in a harbor before being back in France. Don't think the repair crew that went out to Cape Town were thinking about making the boat look good.

 

 

and you can bet they dont carry fenders either,kinda admitting defeat on a nonstop jaunt like this. ;)

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