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#201 d'ranger

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Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:41 PM

I was going to mention she is looking for lifts and headers but I don't think it would sound right. 

Well done Yigael.



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Posted 08 April 2017 - 03:41 AM

Nice one Yigs. Post some offerings or we won't keep taking to you.
The gunnel on that scow looks wet on a good day, scary on a medium one. Sad story - got any happier ones? With tits?

 
HFC,
 
The boat that Yigs posted looks like one of the numerous hulls that Colvin did based on a scaled up and down version of the my boat.
 
Yes, these boats are quite tender but if built according to plan, they are very seaworthy. 
 
The lee rails are frequently awash but the tall bows are very difficult to bury.
 
Best to keep the lee portlights dogged and wear tall boots.
 
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Neat shot! Who needs freeboard? Just use the high side.
The design (above waterline) looks like a mini version of some of the 1900s coastal scows used for trans-shipping loads from ships to town up the rivers etc. High bows for punching over river bars. Though I'm guessing the yacht above isn't flat bottomed? (Edit- ie the Baltic one.)

Yigs: nice photo of a well cared stern. You'll fit well here. I'd hoped this thread would also post good as well as bad examples of transom cargo mgmt, but you took this in a pleasing direction.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:35 AM

@Panope

There was investigation after accident and recovery and they found out that wheelhouse flooding started between 21,3 and 25,3 deg of heel, positive stability ends around 90 deg of heel and constant safe heel for sailing was... between 10 and 12 deg only.

It was not original Colvin 45 any more she was longer, she got this stern castle and bulb on the bow with truster inside. And original ballast ofc. Boat was known as being unable to tack without engine help.

 

Thanks for that report, Yigael.

 

I'd love to read the whole thing.  Any chance you have a link to it?

 

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#204 rattus32

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 05:35 AM

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Low cut headsails - there is good seamanship to have deck... hand on the bow. Sharp lookout is essential.  :rolleyes:

 

Damn, Yigael, that is is a quality figurehead! Almost as good as my all time fave, the girl with the coffee cup in the companionway back in the CA 36 forum many years ago (that I can no longer find :( )

 

I am the Leg Man, I am the Leg Man, I am the Walrus!

 

Re: your sig. I can't read Hebrew, but shouldn't that be on the right side of the page?

 

Thanks for brightening up the thread.



#205 Yigael

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 11:58 AM

@Pano Help yourself ;)

http://pkbwm.gov.pl/..._Down_North.pdf

 

@Rattus 

It's from the right to left ofc, but copy pasted it from another place where you can do only basic formatting in signature. Now it's better. :D

It says "Everything is an illusion"



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Posted 08 April 2017 - 04:18 PM

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Low cut headsails - there is good seamanship to have deck... hand on the bow. Sharp lookout is essential.  :rolleyes:

 

Damn, Yigael, that is is a quality figurehead! Almost as good as my all time fave, the girl with the coffee cup in the companionway back in the CA 36 forum many years ago (that I can no longer find :( )

 

I am the Leg Man, I am the Leg Man, I am the Walrus!

 

Re: your sig. I can't read Hebrew, but shouldn't that be on the right side of the page?

 

Thanks for brightening up the thread.

 

Here you go, happy hunting. Please repost the pic when you find it. http://forums.sailin...showtopic=67248



#207 rattus32

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:29 PM

I located the thread, it's the pic I can't find...



#208 HFC Hunter

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 04:04 AM

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 07:51 AM
Nice models Joe.

Since its Friday down here, what is something you would love to see coming up the companionway??????


Maybe this??
http://forums.sailin...=67248&page=70#
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 04:05 AM

Was it this one? It seems she forgot the coffee?

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 04:11 AM

http://www.sailboatl....com/view/23080

It's all a bit Greek to me!

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Posted 09 April 2017 - 05:11 AM

@Pano Help yourself ;)http://pkbwm.gov.pl/..._Down_North.pdf
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Interesting read, thanks. Questions for anybody:
I assume the bulbous bow added by the PO, aside from holding a bow thruster, was of no benefit at 7 knots max speed?

Was the improvement of the positive stability range from 98' as designed to about 130' merely from her resting on the sterncastle? I realize the positive stability range was irrelevant due to the flooding of the deck and pilot house starting at 10-12' and 23-25', plus her inability to shed water off her deck.

They were reaching. Am I correct they fell off when hit by the gust out of habit, to keep her from rounding up and getting caught in irons, expecting her to recover until it was too late? The report said they tried to luff the main but the boom dug into the sea. Staysails and jibs were not released.

She escaped Polish scrutiny for a couple years with her fake Canadian recreational registry and commercial use. Was that shortcoming unique to Poland, or could it happen elsewhere?

#212 Yigael

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Posted 11 April 2017 - 10:20 AM

The problem is - if you appear to be a small pleasure craft of foreign flag and you aren't leave Schengen area probability of official inspection is negligible unless you have some kind of accident or tax trouble.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:34 PM

Junk on the trunk and ugly dodger. Extra points?

 

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:09 PM

That poor little boat, Chesapeake 32 I think, is sobbing.



#215 Yigael

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:23 PM

Why...



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:26 PM

Yiggers:

Because some awful person made it look so ugly. Underneath all that shit was a pretty little boat.



#217 Yigael

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:35 PM

I've been asking why the did it to that boat... That dodger/pilot house look like taken from completely different boat... Not to say word about that BTS tower behind.

I used to think that i know the ugliest hard dodger in the universe and closest neighbourhood.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 10:01 PM

The stern is down a few inches too.

Needs more chain in the bow to sit on its lines ....

#219 Yigael

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 10:24 PM

The boat try hard to look like she means business. Her anchor is deployed. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to see it retrieved  :D 
 



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Posted Yesterday, 12:27 AM

Another double find:

 

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https://seattle.crai...6096850389.html



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Posted Yesterday, 02:07 AM

I could at least live on that. My only question is how the hell does that Main clear the backstay??

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Posted Yesterday, 02:41 AM

I could at least live on that. My only question is how the hell does that Main clear the backstay??

 

my guess is there is no roach, this one doesn't even have battens:

 

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Posted Yesterday, 03:30 AM

Junk on the trunk and ugly dodger. Extra points?

 

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Does the energy produced by the wind generator equal the energy lost due to it's shadow on the solar panels? 

 

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Posted Yesterday, 04:10 AM

Another double find:

 

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https://seattle.crai...6096850389.html

 

That looks like a Clipper 26 on crack.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:48 AM

 

 

I wonder if there used to be a mizzen mast?
 
The back porch might be overall more useful.
 
Water bottles on the bow?

 
They are sterilizing in the sunlight.
 
 
 
Who the hell was that who thought that would work?
Wasn't that armpit sterilising his toothbrush?

 

 

I'm pretty sure it was Brent who was bragging about the cost-savings he achieved by using sunlight shining through the portlight glass to sterilize his toothbrush.  Much spirited discussion ensued about the relative U.V. transmission characteristics of glass and plastic, the amount of U.V. energy absorbed by a microbe, and how foolish people using electric U.V. toothbrush sterilizers were wasting their "freedom chips" and delaying their cruising by many years while they earned the money to pay unqualified ripoff-artist boat designers.  Apparently a job = slavery.



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Posted Yesterday, 04:56 AM

Another double find:
 
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https://seattle.crai...6096850389.html

 
That looks like a Clipper 26 on crack.

I'm almost hoping the vane on the wind generator is connected in a steam-punk style down to the rudder for selfsteerage. I'll add a second to Pano's call on solar panel disruption.
And I'm curious... what does a spinning dynamo do to a radar mounted 1m away? And does the deck have a dash of reverse sheer or is it just an unfortunate distortion and she's really got Concordia-sweet lines?

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Posted Yesterday, 05:02 AM

I wonder if there used to be a mizzen mast?
 
The back porch might be overall more useful.
 
Water bottles on the bow?

 
They are sterilizing in the sunlight.
 
 
 
Who the hell was that who thought that would work?
Wasn't that armpit sterilising his toothbrush?
 
I'm pretty sure it was Brent who was bragging about the cost-savings he achieved by using sunlight shining through the portlight glass to sterilize his toothbrush.  Much spirited discussion ensued about the relative U.V. transmission characteristics of glass and plastic, the amount of U.V. energy absorbed by a microbe, and how foolish people using electric U.V. toothbrush sterilizers were wasting their "freedom chips" and delaying their cruising by many years while they earned the money to pay unqualified ripoff-artist boat designers.  Apparently a job = slavery.

His sort of freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
https://youtu.be/OTHRg_iSWzM
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Posted Yesterday, 03:35 PM

 

 

Another double find:
 
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https://seattle.crai...6096850389.html

 
That looks like a Clipper 26 on crack.

an unfortunate distortion


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Posted Yesterday, 08:47 PM

That boat is unfortunate.



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Posted Today, 07:25 AM

99% of cruisers I come across should have read this article and others before spending thousands on the junk trunk shit. There are so many alternatives out there to solve power, dingy storage and antenna issues than doing what they do and in many cases they will save money instead of paying for their S/S guy's kids to through college.

http://nordkyndesign...and-resistance/

#231 Panoramix

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Posted Today, 09:24 AM

99% of cruisers I come across should have read this article and others before spending thousands on the junk trunk shit. There are so many alternatives out there to solve power, dingy storage and antenna issues than doing what they do and in many cases they will save money instead of paying for their S/S guy's kids to through college.

http://nordkyndesign...and-resistance/

 

Really sensible article. His boat is also really interesting and well designed IMHO



#232 Yigael

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Posted Today, 10:22 AM

99% of cruisers I come across should have read this article and others before spending thousands on the junk trunk shit. There are so many alternatives out there to solve power, dingy storage and antenna issues than doing what they do and in many cases they will save money instead of paying for their S/S guy's kids to through college.

http://nordkyndesign...and-resistance/

 

Here https://www.amazon.c...j/dp/1888671092 and here https://www.amazon.c...n/dp/0071826408 is many thing omitted in this article. 



#233 jack_sparrow

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Posted Today, 11:35 AM

99% of cruisers I come across should have read this article and others before spending thousands on the junk trunk shit. There are so many alternatives out there to solve power, dingy storage and antenna issues than doing what they do and in many cases they will save money instead of paying for their S/S guy's kids to through college.

http://nordkyndesign...and-resistance/

 
Really sensible article. His boat is also really interesting and well designed IMHO
I think it is simply a fuckin cruising herd mentality thing going...probably propogated by shit they research on utube generated by those you know shit.

For instance I have given up convincing people they are better off tweaking if not changing their battery chemistry, investing a few bucks in a second alternator to take advantage of their efficient diesel energy source, but their probably limited fuel capacity and in conjunction with that maybe a bit of solar or hydro/wind if they can put up with the shortcomings/cost of the latter.

But hey they all know better, they then go out and build these fuckin great stainless steel monoliths that not only in a good gale are fucked, but will also go a long way to fucking them too.

I can't work out human nature. Maybe I should shut the fuck up and get into the stainless business.

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Posted Today, 11:42 AM

Not many people appreciate the 80/20 rule ....





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