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#1 ShortforBob

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 12:33 PM

Girlchild went and got her Dad's old Eppy fixed on Saturday.

 

She did a little guitar tuition when she was about 13...got bored.

 

Sitting upstairs I hear the riff to Don't Fear The Reaper followed by a pretty dam sweet attempt at the intro to Roadhouse Blues..

 

It's like hearing a ghost :(

 

She's only been practicing since Saturday Afternoon..Good instrument helps I think.



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 02:05 PM

yeah, good tools do help ease the process.  You can also try an open tuning like open-D.  fret the neck and you get a chord wherever you land.  That will build enthusiasm (working for my kids).

 

I still can't play worth a damn but, it makes it fun to at-least get something people can recognize out of the instruments that I have.

 

 



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 07:13 PM

Girlchild went and got her Dad's old Eppy fixed on Saturday.

 

She did a little guitar tuition when she was about 13...got bored.

 

Sitting upstairs I hear the riff to Don't Fear The Reaper followed by a pretty dam sweet attempt at the intro to Roadhouse Blues..

 

It's like hearing a ghost :(

 

She's only been practicing since Saturday Afternoon..Good instrument helps I think.

 

Wow, that is a blast from the past. Great riff though. Now I have it running thru my head and will be compelled to get out my electric and blast out that one (assuming my fingers remember it) followed by GO-GO-GO-GODZILLA!!! before the neighbors get home.

 

Playing a guitar (or any instrument) can really be good for young people, however a lot of them are in a stage where they hate-hate-hate anything any parent thinks is cool. Step carefully here!

 

FB- Doug



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 07:29 PM

Decent instrument and a desire from within to learn help a lot. 

 

they don't help me but i have heard anecdotal evidence they help others. 



#5 ShortforBob

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Posted 15 February 2016 - 08:06 PM

We've still about 3 vintage Eppy's here gathering dust, Gave the two best ones away, sold a few more.

Son pleaded with me for a Sax a few years ago so I bought a really nice old american one ..there it sits gathering dust.

 

I can't play for nuts either, (seem to have a muscle memory problem, cant type either)

 

I suppose I assumed that like us, the kids would pick up their instruments at puberty and have some burning desire to learn. Seems they have to WOW etc out of their systems first.

 

I'm glad my house has brick internal walls :)



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 10:21 PM

Leave some Zeppelin, and Stevie ray Vaughan albums, laying around......  ;)



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Posted 15 February 2016 - 10:44 PM

Some Robert Cray too.  



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 08:33 AM

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.

She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 11:25 AM

Good on her, it's much better to learn when you're young. I'm studying classical guitar and at my age it's a struggle. My weekly lesson follows an 14 year old asian girl not much bigger than her guitar who's on the virtuoso track. I get to listen to her ripping through extremely complex pieces before I go in and fumble over the simple shit.



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 11:36 AM

Good on her, it's much better to learn when you're young. I'm studying classical guitar and at my age it's a struggle. My weekly lesson follows an 14 year old asian girl not much bigger than her guitar who's on the virtuoso track. I get to listen to her ripping through extremely complex pieces before I go in and fumble over the simple shit.

I think I'd rather play along with Youtube :D

My fingers get sore between holding an E7 and switching to a ...what was that again..ouch um now er E7.. no that sounds odd ..rinse and repeat.



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 02:06 PM

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.
She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?


Google david bowie easy guitar and she will find modified cheat versions that are recognizable as the songs. plenty of youtube tutorials which i find easier to follow than just the tabs.

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Posted 16 February 2016 - 03:38 PM

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.

She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?

Rebel Rebel was one of the first Bowie songs I learned when I was 13



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 10:27 PM

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.

She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?

 

Your on the right track with getting her going on simple three and four chord progression and easy chords at that....

 

Let those little fingers get some strength and coordination... 

 

As for Bowie....  here are the chords to all of his songs... 

 

https://www.ultimate...htm?no_takeover

 

Heroes seem to be pretty simple

 

https://tabs.ultimat...es_ver3_crd.htm



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 11:39 PM

watched the start of this.  seems to be a dead simple version of bowie's heroes.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=A0p9tOeZabc

 

 



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 01:04 AM

Space Oddity is pretty easy. https://tabs.ultimat...ty_ver4_crd.htm

 

This is a pretty cool version.

 



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:56 PM

 

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.

She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?

Rebel Rebel was one of the first Bowie songs I learned when I was 13

 

 

One word: Bar Chords !!!

 

This is where a guitar with good action and resonance makes a HUGE difference in how enjoyable it is to play, as a beginner

 

Especially you just want to stomp out some rock'n roll or blues and not spend a lot of time practicing shifts between chords, plus a lot of riffs fall naturally in place once your fingers gain a little familiarity. Go bar chords!

 

FB- Doug

 

PS- for googling purposes, "bar chords"  is sometimes spelt "barre chords"



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 03:14 PM

This is about the only guitar I could ever manage;

 

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 03:18 PM

I might be able to handle three strings and a slide...

 

https://youtu.be/MsnXQ99RX7k



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 03:45 PM

Knowing little about learning guitar, I suggested she start with a standard 12 bar ..easy..impress the boys and fun.

She started by trying to play Man who sold the world..sadly all she could find score wise was the Nirvana Cover..and I she's a Big Bowie fan.  ...I think Bowie's stuff is hard..any of his songs easy enough for a beginer?

 

Go check out Justin Sandercoe on YouTube.... 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 05:51 PM

As much as I love loud rock'n'roll, I've always been more of an acoustic than electric guy... I've never owned any guitar (or boat for that matter) for long, generally rotate through. I've owned a couple of electrics including a custom job from a garage luthier, and the one guitar I have kept for a couple decades now is a Gibson ES-335 (not a vintage job but it plays like butter).

 

Lately I've been taking a longer, more appreciative look at the Stratocaster. When I was younger everybody had either a Strat knock-off or a Les Paul knock-off, and the Strat ones seemed cheaper and nastier. Recently I got a chance to play a sho'-nuff vintage Strat that was well set-up and boy was it a treat! Same guy had his 'beater' Strat out and it was also quite nice, an 1980s MIM (made in Mexico) Strat.

 

So last weekend I had some time to kill in a city with a good guitar store, I went in and started sampling some of their solid-body Strat-like guitars. The only authentic Fender Strats they had (two, a MIM and a newer one of uncertain origin) were not well set-up and one had a very corroded bridge which seemed to kill the intonation. However I tried out a PRS that was very nice and played about 98% as well as those real Strats, and a Schecter Strat knock-off that also played about 97.5% as well... good intonation, very versatile, softer action than my Gib... I really don't need another guitar and if I were to buy one, I'm really lusting for something a bit more vintage (like myself)... but I came away with a new respect for those guitars.

 

-DSK



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

Ramones songs are pretty easy.............

 As for Bowie..... Changes, Rock-n-roll suicide, and Panic in Detroit might be less challenging.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 08:06 PM

^ Great Choice!

 

  I have a 95 Amer standard Strat.  actually found it on Ebay.  Watched a bunch of auctions and knew exactly what I wanted, then sniped mine.

 

  nice thing about the Fender Amer strats is you will never loose value.  Not so true w knock off's...



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 08:11 PM

The Paul Reed Smith guitars are awesome.

I like the look of the vintage Fenders like the Jaguar, Music/ jazz master, etc. but PRS really has the sound and action down.



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:08 PM

check out justinguitar.com for some easy to play stuff. guy is amazing and the lessons are free. 



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:31 PM

I've got a 99 or so American strat. I love it. No noise, great action, perfect neck round... Love it. I should probably take it to a luthier and let them look at the neck it's been a few years.

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 09:32 PM

The Paul Reed Smith guitars are awesome.

I like the look of the vintage Fenders like the Jaguar, Music/ jazz master, etc. but PRS really has the sound and action down.

 

I liked the PRS a lot, would probably have bought one except I bought a 1970s Guild 12-string at that same shop last year. Trying to keep it to one new guitar every 3 or 4 years, maybe. Right now my main object of guitar lust is something more like this, anyway

1924 Gibson L-5

 

But currently my only electric is a hollow-body, very resonant. Great feedback except that feedback is not so great when you're trying to play moderately loud. I'd like a solid, and I'd like a vintage Strat... but I am a practical man and don't need a $10k guitar nor want one laying around the house.

 

 

check out justinguitar.com for some easy to play stuff. guy is amazing and the lessons are free. 

 

That is a great site, lots of good stuff there.

 

Best way to learn is to stay motivated, which could include 'guitar school' like justinguitar above, but usually it means learning songs that YOU like; it's fairly easy to find tabs for almost any song on line nowadays, then add some scale & chord lessons when you have learned the basics of a song and want to fancy it up. Rinse and repeat with your next favorite song.

 

Eventually I hope to become almost this good

 

 

-DSK



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Posted 09 February 2017 - 10:05 PM

I like mess around with my acoustics. My repertoire is mostly "four chords and the truth" type stuff: Townes Van Zandt, John Prine, Jason Isbell, Jerry Jeff Walker, Sturgill Simpson, Roger Miller and the DBTs. I mostly learned to teach myself to play so I could sing. Singing is my first great love, not that I'm a great singer. Merely adequate. .

Picked up a guitar and started to teach myself about 8 years ago at the age of 44. Never actually took a s single lesson and it shows!

 

Favorite guitar is inexpensive Seagull cedar top acoustic. It's set up just right and easy to play. Sounds pretty good when the strings aren't too dirty. 


 



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 12:33 PM

 

The Paul Reed Smith guitars are awesome.

I like the look of the vintage Fenders like the Jaguar, Music/ jazz master, etc. but PRS really has the sound and action down.

 

I liked the PRS a lot, would probably have bought one except I bought a 1970s Guild 12-string at that same shop last year. Trying to keep it to one new guitar every 3 or 4 years, maybe. Right now my main object of guitar lust is something more like this, anyway

1924 Gibson L-5

 

But currently my only electric is a hollow-body, very resonant. Great feedback except that feedback is not so great when you're trying to play moderately loud. I'd like a solid, and I'd like a vintage Strat... but I am a practical man and don't need a $10k guitar nor want one laying around the house.

 

 

check out justinguitar.com for some easy to play stuff. guy is amazing and the lessons are free. 

 

That is a great site, lots of good stuff there.

 

Best way to learn is to stay motivated, which could include 'guitar school' like justinguitar above, but usually it means learning songs that YOU like; it's fairly easy to find tabs for almost any song on line nowadays, then add some scale & chord lessons when you have learned the basics of a song and want to fancy it up. Rinse and repeat with your next favorite song.

 

Eventually I hope to become almost this good

 

 

-DSK

 

Bridget is not going to be impressed. This is how it's done in Australia.



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 03:09 PM

The Paul Reed Smith guitars are awesome.
I like the look of the vintage Fenders like the Jaguar, Music/ jazz master, etc. but PRS really has the sound and action down.


The PRS may look like a Strat, but it is really more of a Gibson type. The Fenders are typically single coil pickup guitars, while the Gibsons and PRS usually have humbuckers. Also, the Fender Strat and Tele have a 25.5" scale length, while the PRS and Gibsons are 24.5-24.75" scale.

I happen to prefer the shorter scale length and fat humbucker tone, so I play mostly my PRS's and Gibson's, although the wifey gave me a Fender Custom Shop Clapton blackie Strat for Christmas. Lately I've been playing Collings guitars from Austin, TX. I have a tour of their shop this afternoon.

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:17 PM

I like the sound of a Telecaster more than a Strat. That said I like the sound of a Gibson ES330, or a Gretsch White Falcon even more.



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:01 AM

I got my first acoustic at 13, played full-time for a living from 1976 to 2014, now down to 3-4 fun gigs a month.

I've used the same Telecaster since 1986. In about an hour I'm off to do a gig.

 

Bridget: find out if there's a good guitar teacher in your area. Will make a big difference, provided it's a Good teacher.....



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:15 AM

Tommy is a bad ass, I have seen him twice.

The strat is the electric you get if you only can get one solid body and you want to play everything. I play mine mine all the time in the house through the luker tiger and a tone tubby 12 but have a les paul out in the office I can play through a fender twin with jbls when I want to reorganize my brain cells. The strat is very versatile and easy to play ergonomically, for me anyway.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 04:18 PM

Bridget is not going to be impressed. This is how it's done in Australia.

 


 

 

 

That's very cool, makes me wonder if he's using a special tuning. Nice guitar too, I wish youtube had better sound.

 

 

Tommy is a bad ass, I have seen him twice.

The strat is the electric you get if you only can get one solid body and you want to play everything. I play mine mine all the time in the house through the luker tiger and a tone tubby 12 but have a les paul out in the office I can play through a fender twin with jbls when I want to reorganize my brain cells. The strat is very versatile and easy to play ergonomically, for me anyway.

 

Yes, zackly. The Strat plays smoothly in almost any style (well any style I can actually do, anyway) and make a wide variety of sounds. The Gibson ES335 plays beautifully but it's hard to get away from that bell-like jazzy tone even with distortion... a nice sound to be sure but it's not as versatile. I don't have a solid-body electric, certainly don't need one, but hey how can you explain the things you just -want-?

 

CL thanks for info and for pointing us towards Collings guitars too, they make some real beauties

 

 

I like mess around with my acoustics. My repertoire is mostly "four chords and the truth" type stuff: Townes Van Zandt, John Prine, Jason Isbell, Jerry Jeff Walker, Sturgill Simpson, Roger Miller and the DBTs. I mostly learned to teach myself to play so I could sing. Singing is my first great love, not that I'm a great singer. Merely adequate. .

Picked up a guitar and started to teach myself about 8 years ago at the age of 44. Never actually took a s single lesson and it shows!

 

Favorite guitar is inexpensive Seagull cedar top acoustic. It's set up just right and easy to play. Sounds pretty good when the strings aren't too dirty. 

 

 

My 'daily banger' is a Norman folkie, similar to a Martin 000 series; inexpensive enough that I don't worry about taking it on the boat. And most instruments sound quite good, played over the water. Lots of good inexpensive guitars, including this guy

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which is the Alvarez copy of a Gibson J-200. Plywood, my father bought it for me as a birthday present while visiting home from the Navy, about $150 back then. Obviously I kept it for a while... in fact I had this while I went thru a series of more-expensive-but-less-fun-to-play Gibsons, of which the only ones I remember well are an SGO and a twelve-string B-25. I think toting it around on a boat did this one in, because it started losing resonance and started making a dull thudding sound instead of it's previous rich bass. I've wanted a REAL J-200 ever since, irrational lust again :unsure:
 

-DSK



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 06:04 PM

My strat is cobbled together with a fernandes neck and seymour duncan designed electronics which include one humbucker and two single coils. It makes 5 distinctly different sounds even before you move around while playing. Its rock solid tuning wise. I highly recommend putting 5 springs in them and making sure the mechanism is lubed even if you never use the bar or remove it. The only complaint I have is the position of the selector switch.

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 06:06 PM

Nice picture dsk!

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 06:12 PM

Mine's the maple one... harder to find than one might think.  Jam nights are fun!  

 

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 07:51 PM

And of course the lightweight Gibson SG is powerhouse in the world of rock guitar, even though it was ridiculed when it was introduced.



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 10:14 PM

Mine.... A Jose Ramirez 4E

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 12:17 AM

We had about 10 when Jimmy died, 9 vintage Epy's and a Gibson les paul. 

There's probably another 4 laying around a Storage facility in the UK somewhere, vintage Mosrite bass and more Epys.

 

I gave his best friends their pick, kept 2 and sold the rest.

I doubt the kids got more than he paid for them..Bottom dropped right out of the vintage market here about ten years ago.

Sold his pride and joy, Vintage White Crestwood Delux for 2 1/2 grand..he paid 3.

I'd have hung onto them if I'd had the space.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 01:18 AM

Not a guitar player, I do play drums though, but this seems pretty simple. Great, great version
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=lAqAmLSIGU8

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:06 AM

A million years ago, I had a Fender electric (A Duosonic or something like that, a down-spec Strat), a Gibson LG-0 acoustic, a Raven classical, and a very funky Ovation electric.

 

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Now I have a nice Seagull S6 cedar and I happily muck away. Sure would like to pick up a nice strat some day...maybe I could sell one of my livers.



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 06:24 AM

Those s6s and some other norman guitars by the same maufacturer in canada can be sneaky good guitars. My theory is they are made a little fresh and then get better as they age. I have an artist series seagull cedar top cutaway, first new guitar I bought. So...my quiver

La Valencianna is a 60s contract manufactured in spain for a large mexican musical instrument distributor parlor sized flamenco guitar. It has a super tight grained spruce top with cypress body, total basket case converted to steel string and then back to high tension nylon, large cracks and water damage on the back of the sound box repaired and I refinished it with french polish and my friend and tech put a fishman undersaddle peizo pickup with a pin jack preamp in it. It is the sweetest sounding acoustic low volume guitar you ever heard and through a pa it sounds like willies martin. It smells incredible. The old wood rocks.

Breedlove omm revival series. 10 years old now. I played 30 guitars at guitar showcase, sylvan music and gilroy guitar gallery. A martin omm somewhat demo worn at guitar showcase was the front runner but my buddy and i stuck with the plan and went to gilroy guitar gallery and played many guitars there and had a less worn martin omm we zeroed in on. We told the owner about our day and allmthe guitars we played and said we would have to go back and buy the worn martin at guitar showcase as it was the best sounding 1500 usd guitar we had played that day. He smiled and went into the back and brought out this breedlove he had been sent by the factory just that day. No contest. To this day its the nicest single thing I have ever purchased.

Hohner fretless semi hollowbody bass guitar. Hohner stopped making the unit and sold the rights to acoustic control corp where they made a couple small mods and named it a black widow.

Strat as mentioned

japanese les paul copy from the lat 70s early 80s rebuilt with hot reissue heritage electronics with tone pots that pull up and turn the humbuckers to single coils, this thing straight into blackfaced 73 twin reverb without any effect is a weapon of mass destruction. That guitar sound at the beginning of fat man in the bathtub on waiting for columbus, this rig can do that. The master volume pull pot was rewired and if you pull it and set tone stack right you can almost get neils grunge tone from cortez the killer on the weld live album. Almost. You have to wear ear plugs and the dog runs away. Helps to live in the country.

Seagull as mentioned. Travel guitar for inside.

ibanez PF 95 dollar steel string acoustic with yessongs painting on the back. Good action, intonates well, sounds ok with new strings. Bulletproof piece of lumber. Guest guitar, toddlers, droolers, drunks, monkeys, whatever. Everyone gets to play this guitar. There is nothing cooler than handing a happy party goer a guitar to play that works and you really dont worry about. Probably more good times happen with this guitar. Ski trips, beach, car camping, no case needed. Seriously, you could kill someone with this instrument.

Session 7 small body five string bass. Like the ibanez guitar. It works and no worries.

Another old rescue contrsct manufactured student classical guitar from the 60s. Good wood well aged and brought to good playing condition. This guitar lives in the santa barbara family vrbo so I dont have to pack one when we vacate to that location.

baritone ukulele and regular ukulele, gotta have a uke so my 80 yo father can sing aint she sweet and many others when he comes to visit

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 07:47 AM

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 07:33 PM

I like the sound of a Telecaster more than a Strat. That said I like the sound of a Gibson ES330, or a Gretsch White Falcon even more.

 

I'm jonesin' for a nice Tele right now. The new American Elite is sweet - compound radius neck, compound neck profile, NICE N4 noiseless pickups, S1 switching (lets you get a humbucker-like tone out of the 2 single coils) - but at almost $2K - I'm analyzing what I can put together from Warmoth - nice custom neck, chambered swamp-ash body w/a NICE flame maple top, boutique pickups/switching and I'm still into it for less than $1400 in parts....  

 

The Tele is the last one to add to the group - I've got a franken-Strat, a LP, a P-90 SG and Gretsch electrics, A couple nice Martins (D35 & D16) and a couple cheap Yamaha acoustics, and the basses.   



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:42 PM

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:37 AM

Like the look of those Taylor's.... 

 

I wanted a Tele for a long time, but these days i'm lusting for a Gibson/Les Paul something. More realistically, my next guitar will probably be a nice steel string. I have a love hate relationship with steel strings since my eczema precludes callouses, but there was  Gibson that i played at GC a while back that has my name on it - even if it does hurt me... 



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:30 PM

Beautiful Tele Dreamer,  what yr?



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:35 PM

Beautiful Tele Dreamer,  what yr?


It's. '62 American Vintage Reissue. Bought it in 2005. The Ricky I bought myself for Xmas

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:34 PM

 

Beautiful Tele Dreamer,  what yr?


It's. '62 American Vintage Reissue. Bought it in 2005. The Ricky I bought myself for Xmas

 

 

Rickenbacker makes some fantastic instruments. I played a borrowed Rick bass for quite a while.

 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:14 PM

Thought I'd share my latest indulgence:  https://www.sweetwat...tail/TeleAERACB

 

I've been jonesin' for a nice Tele for a while, had thought about building a Warmoth partscaster, but, kept playing the Elite Tele at GC and when I found out that Sweetwater had 48 months/0%?  It was a no brainer. 

 

The neck on this guitar is even sweeter than any of the other guitars I play - it's a keeper. 



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:31 AM

I must say any of the tele's I've tried left me cold. I think the strat is the most Versatile of them all. I introduced my two sons to guitar a few years ago. They are now fanatical and I'm too embarrassed to play they have got so good. Our guitar collection grows every year. Two Fender American standard strats, a Johnny Marr Jaguar, a jazz master, a Gibson SG special, a Epiphone Les Paul, a Westone Spectrum (my first guitar) a jaguar bass, a Martin D28, a Takamine Jumbo cutaway and three cheap acoustics that are abandoned on either the boat or summer house. The two strats are the best loved. If I had to have one guitar it would be a strat. I personally love the look of the SG. I bought it because I thought it would make me sound like Robbie Krieger. Of course it didn't and that wasn't the fault of the guitar. Unfortunately it suffered the common neck failure just above the nut. I did a DIY epoxy neck repair and three years later it's still going strong. I've tried a few teles, but never liked the necks. The PRS 's look like beautiful guitars but I've never tried one. Never tried a real Les Paul either. Unfortunately, I've come to realise that a good player can make the shittiest guitar sound good and that a shitty player will still sound shitty on a great guitar. I still love looking in guitar shops and buying pedals for the boys. In the evening dinner conversation will invariably turn to guitars and guitarists and whether John Frusciante is better than John Mayer.....

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 12:53 PM

Corkob - Go check out the American Elite series - the necks on those, Strat & Tele both, are simply phenomenal.  They've got a compound radius fretboard that's 9.5" @ the nut, flattening out as you go higher on the fretboard to a 14" radius.  The back of the neck is a compound shape too - fatter/rounder near the nut, flattening out as you go higher.  I prefer the feel of rosweood/ebony fretboards, and that's what my Tele has.  

 

The 4th gen noiseless pickups on this thing are awesome (stacked double coil in a single coil footprint) - played w/a friend who's got a custom shop '52 reissue (my standard for perfect Tele twang) - and these aren't identical, but, good enough w/NO 60 cycle hum that I have no plans to swap 'em for the different p'ups.    The elites also have "S1" pickup switch wiring that puts two pickups in parallel to give you a tone best described as a "humbucker chime".  

 

I like my SG, Strat, LP, & Gretsch as well - different tones for different tunes.   



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Posted 11 March 2017 - 05:14 AM

Corkob - Go check out the American Elite series - the necks on those, Strat & Tele both, are simply phenomenal.  They've got a compound radius fretboard that's 9.5" @ the nut, flattening out as you go higher on the fretboard to a 14" radius.  The back of the neck is a compound shape too - fatter/rounder near the nut, flattening out as you go higher.  I prefer the feel of rosweood/ebony fretboards, and that's what my Tele has.  
 
The 4th gen noiseless pickups on this thing are awesome (stacked double coil in a single coil footprint) - played w/a friend who's got a custom shop '52 reissue (my standard for perfect Tele twang) - and these aren't identical, but, good enough w/NO 60 cycle hum that I have no plans to swap 'em for the different p'ups.    The elites also have "S1" pickup switch wiring that puts two pickups in parallel to give you a tone best described as a "humbucker chime".  
 
I like my SG, Strat, LP, & Gretsch as well - different tones for different tunes.   


I was wondering about those noiseless pickups. unfortunately my local guitar shop carries a pretty poor stock. They rarely bring in anything above the low to mid range stuff. I bought the Jaguar on line and it's rarely used because they complain that the high e string pops out of the saddle during bends, something I thought the marr model had specifically been modded to avoid. I expect some minor fettling will sort it. Do you think the Elite strat or the tele would be better?

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Posted 11 March 2017 - 03:00 PM

I've learned a lot in this thread.. thank you all !!

 

+1 on the SG being a great guitar, a friend that I jam with sometimes has one of those.

 

No substitute for a lot of playing time on different instruments. Part of the reason why I'm not buying another guitar any time soon- I can't decide what I really really want.

 

-DSK



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Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:57 PM

 

Corkob - Go check out the American Elite series - the necks on those, Strat & Tele both, are simply phenomenal.  They've got a compound radius fretboard that's 9.5" @ the nut, flattening out as you go higher on the fretboard to a 14" radius.  The back of the neck is a compound shape too - fatter/rounder near the nut, flattening out as you go higher.  I prefer the feel of rosweood/ebony fretboards, and that's what my Tele has.  
 
The 4th gen noiseless pickups on this thing are awesome (stacked double coil in a single coil footprint) - played w/a friend who's got a custom shop '52 reissue (my standard for perfect Tele twang) - and these aren't identical, but, good enough w/NO 60 cycle hum that I have no plans to swap 'em for the different p'ups.    The elites also have "S1" pickup switch wiring that puts two pickups in parallel to give you a tone best described as a "humbucker chime".  
 
I like my SG, Strat, LP, & Gretsch as well - different tones for different tunes.   


I was wondering about those noiseless pickups. unfortunately my local guitar shop carries a pretty poor stock. They rarely bring in anything above the low to mid range stuff. I bought the Jaguar on line and it's rarely used because they complain that the high e string pops out of the saddle during bends, something I thought the marr model had specifically been modded to avoid. I expect some minor fettling will sort it. Do you think the Elite strat or the tele would be better?

 

 

I've never had a string pop out of a saddle or the nut during bends - it sounds like something is off with either that saddle or the setup.  What kind of bridge do you have on the Jaguar? Pic?  

 

As to the elite Strat/Tele being "better" - strings popping out during a bend shouldn't happen on any guitar, but, my Tele's neck is the nicest I've ever played - bar none.  



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:29 PM

Any thoughts on the other end of the cord.  I just bought a Yamaha THR practice amp, the sound is absolutely amazing, big amp tones at super low volume, its the size of a loaf of bread, it gets plenty loud too for living room jams with a couple of guys.  Its really a sweet little practice amp.   



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:05 PM

One of my favorite amps is my little 5 watt Epiphone Valve Jr - it's a tube amp, single volume knob, and crunches nicely when pushed, it was $150 new.  Amps are subjective, IMHO - play with whatever sounds like you want it to.   The amp isn't going to impact how well you can keep time, do chord changes, pick articulation, etc - so if you like it, that's all you need to know, IMHO. 



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 03:00 PM

Any thoughts on the other end of the cord.  I just bought a Yamaha THR practice amp, the sound is absolutely amazing, big amp tones at super low volume, its the size of a loaf of bread, it gets plenty loud too for living room jams with a couple of guys.  Its really a sweet little practice amp.   

If anyone wants one I have a THR5A and no longer have an electric guitar. PM me if interested.



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Posted 17 March 2017 - 02:47 AM

I have a THR for the boat. On land I play through tubes, usually Fender, but sometimes Vox or Marshall.

I have an SG and don't play it. The only Gibson I play much is my custom shop '58 VOS Les Paul, which is a good guitar.,If anyone is a lefty and wants a black Gibson USA SG in roadworn condition, lots of honest scraps and dings w/OHSC, it's cheap.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 02:58 AM

Love me my tube amp. I'll never go back to solid state. My fender amp sounds better the louder I make it!

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 04:11 AM

One of my favorite amps is my little 5 watt Epiphone Valve Jr - it's a tube amp, single volume knob, and crunches nicely when pushed, it was $150 new.  Amps are subjective, IMHO - play with whatever sounds like you want it to.   The amp isn't going to impact how well you can keep time, do chord changes, pick articulation, etc - so if you like it, that's all you need to know, IMHO.

I have a valve junior as well though just a bit hot rodded . I am learning tube ampmrepair and modification from guitar amps to hifi. Something like the valve junior in a near field setting with no effects just straight in will allow a person to learn to use their guitar controls and plucking to modulate volume and tone in a low volume highly adjustable manner including overdrive distorion. I spent my first 20 years playing a les paul copy straight through my fender twin with jbls. No effects. Still dont use effects other than a studio quality rack mounted digital delay unit I alos play my electric flute through. I just refurbished a 1965 fender bassman head for a friend
and it is a dynamic brute. Tubes and especially older fender tube circuits can deliver magic especially when paired with the right guitar with no effects. But thats just me. For my valve junior I put a weber 8inch speaker, mullard el84 and rectifier tubes from an old hammond organ and a better 12ax7 and changed a signal capacitor to make it more full frequency. It sounded great as it was though.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:10 PM

Chris - I've got a reissue 57 Bassman as my "main" amp - I love the tone, even though it can be a little ice-picky w/my single coil guitars.  I do use some effects - a tube screamer, compressor and delay - the Bassman is a bit "dry" sounding on stage w/out those.

 

if you don't mind - I'd enjoy hearing more about the capacitor change on your Epi Jr - what you did, and what the mod gave you in terms of tone. 



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:13 AM

biggest mistake of my life....selling my Fender 68 silverface Vibrolux  twin ....

 

I wanted a Roland 120 Jazz Chorus  and sold the fender....I still have the JC but  fuck me, the vibrolux was special



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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:44 AM

Chris - I've got a reissue 57 Bassman as my "main" amp - I love the tone, even though it can be a little ice-picky w/my single coil guitars.  I do use some effects - a tube screamer, compressor and delay - the Bassman is a bit "dry" sounding on stage w/out those.
 
if you don't mind - I'd enjoy hearing more about the capacitor change on your Epi Jr - what you did, and what the mod gave you in terms of tone.


Imwill get out to my office this weekend and lookmthat up. The mod made the amp a little less transistor radio sounding and more open and full. I also play a nylon acoustic through it.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 02:45 PM

So I checked and I just rrplaced one capacitor in the valve junior. However I looked online formthe first time in many years and the amount of info out there for modifying this amp has grown beyond belief. I am going to revisit mine but if you look online a bit you will see pretty quickly a common first level of changes. Theres also a safety mod in case the rectifier tube fails that if you play it a lot looks like cheap insurance. Safety first! Potential exisits for electrocution when working around this type of unit.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 12:14 PM

Thanks for the input - WOW is right - lots of folks seem to like that little amp as the base for experimentation.  Saw one for sale on the local CL for $50 - may get it to use and leave one "stock" for comparison. 



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Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:39 PM

Well, this is a fun thread!  Been getting mine out a bit over the past year or so, even set up the old touring rig while the lovely bride was on a 4-day biz trip.  Never get rid of a guitar has been my credo, so I've kept everyone since that first nylon strung Hohner back in 1977.  When I put the pics up where I can link them I'll post them.  Maybe tomorrow.  Cheers!



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Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:51 PM

circa '72 Guild bass
 
 
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I had a Luthier convert it to fretless.
 
 
 
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Posted 21 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

,,,
For my valve junior I put a weber 8inch speaker, mullard el84 and rectifier tubes from an old hammond organ and a better 12ax7 and changed a signal capacitor to make it more full frequency. It sounded great as it was though.


Those Mullards must be NOS
or
_real old_

( more likely since from old Hammond)
I don't think you can find Mullards anymore,
(unless somebody bought a pile of them and they will be $$$)

There are some good 6BQ5-EL84-7189 tubes coming out of Slovakia and Russia
I'm using Sovtek EL84M (Russian "heavy duty") in that little EICO


( ;) I have an "old Leslie" project coming up )

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 12:16 PM

First, I'm never going to play Carnegie Hall but I would like to be considerably better than I am now. I've been studying classical guitar for 2 1/2 years. My issue is that I seem to have reached a point where it's harder and harder to move the ball. Lately I need to spend more and more time for an increment of improvement. Is this a bump in the road or the nature of the beast. Do you guys find there are times when you progress quickly and times when you seem to stall?



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 12:40 PM

First, I'm never going to play Carnegie Hall but I would like to be considerably better than I am now. I've been studying classical guitar for 2 1/2 years. My issue is that I seem to have reached a point where it's harder and harder to move the ball. Lately I need to spend more and more time for an increment of improvement. Is this a bump in the road or the nature of the beast. Do you guys find there are times when you progress quickly and times when you seem to stall?

 

Absolutely.   Might be time to try playing something else for a bit, and then coming back to whatever you're stumbling upon?  How do you practice your scales ?    

 

I've always been a parrot-hack on guitar, mimicking what I heard that I liked.  I started taking theory lessons last year, and playing more jazz - and it's really helping me w/my "old man rock-n-roll" guitar.  Picking up the bass last year helped, too. 



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 12:58 PM

 

First, I'm never going to play Carnegie Hall but I would like to be considerably better than I am now. I've been studying classical guitar for 2 1/2 years. My issue is that I seem to have reached a point where it's harder and harder to move the ball. Lately I need to spend more and more time for an increment of improvement. Is this a bump in the road or the nature of the beast. Do you guys find there are times when you progress quickly and times when you seem to stall?

 

Absolutely.   Might be time to try playing something else for a bit, and then coming back to whatever you're stumbling upon?  How do you practice your scales ?    

 

I've always been a parrot-hack on guitar, mimicking what I heard that I liked.  I started taking theory lessons last year, and playing more jazz - and it's really helping me w/my "old man rock-n-roll" guitar.  Picking up the bass last year helped, too. 

 

My teacher doesn't give me scales to practice at all. His approach is to give me give me new pieces to work on that address the issues he sees in my playing. He has given me some arpeggios to practice.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 01:42 PM

 

 

First, I'm never going to play Carnegie Hall but I would like to be considerably better than I am now. I've been studying classical guitar for 2 1/2 years. My issue is that I seem to have reached a point where it's harder and harder to move the ball. Lately I need to spend more and more time for an increment of improvement. Is this a bump in the road or the nature of the beast. Do you guys find there are times when you progress quickly and times when you seem to stall?

 

Absolutely.   Might be time to try playing something else for a bit, and then coming back to whatever you're stumbling upon?  How do you practice your scales ?    

 

I've always been a parrot-hack on guitar, mimicking what I heard that I liked.  I started taking theory lessons last year, and playing more jazz - and it's really helping me w/my "old man rock-n-roll" guitar.  Picking up the bass last year helped, too. 

 

My teacher doesn't give me scales to practice at all. His approach is to give me give me new pieces to work on that address the issues he sees in my playing. He has given me some arpeggios to practice.

 

 

How's your understanding of music theory and scale modes?   IMHO, scale practice, especially if you vary fingering/picking, works well to help you with your "fingering" ability, as well as to reinforce your fretboard knowledge.  improving my knowledge of basic root-string chord shapes (ie, how do you play an Emaj7th using an "E" string root, and "A" string root, and a "D" string root?)  - and knowing what scale modes will work well over what chords is really helping me understand how to play the stuff I like. 



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 01:57 PM

 

 

 

First, I'm never going to play Carnegie Hall but I would like to be considerably better than I am now. I've been studying classical guitar for 2 1/2 years. My issue is that I seem to have reached a point where it's harder and harder to move the ball. Lately I need to spend more and more time for an increment of improvement. Is this a bump in the road or the nature of the beast. Do you guys find there are times when you progress quickly and times when you seem to stall?

 

Absolutely.   Might be time to try playing something else for a bit, and then coming back to whatever you're stumbling upon?  How do you practice your scales ?    

 

I've always been a parrot-hack on guitar, mimicking what I heard that I liked.  I started taking theory lessons last year, and playing more jazz - and it's really helping me w/my "old man rock-n-roll" guitar.  Picking up the bass last year helped, too. 

 

My teacher doesn't give me scales to practice at all. His approach is to give me give me new pieces to work on that address the issues he sees in my playing. He has given me some arpeggios to practice.

 

 

How's your understanding of music theory and scale modes?   IMHO, scale practice, especially if you vary fingering/picking, works well to help you with your "fingering" ability, as well as to reinforce your fretboard knowledge.  improving my knowledge of basic root-string chord shapes (ie, how do you play an Emaj7th using an "E" string root, and "A" string root, and a "D" string root?)  - and knowing what scale modes will work well over what chords is really helping me understand how to play the stuff I like. 

 

I'm very weak on theory nor am I very familiar with the upper reaches of the fret board. I never had any music training prior to this adventure.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 02:12 PM

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I'm very weak on theory nor am I very familiar with the upper reaches of the fret board. I never had any music training prior to this adventure.

 

 

Then you're kind of setting yourself up to be in the same place I found myself - being a decent parrot (only able to mimic what I'd heard, and not really playing anything of my own).   I'd suggest that you go look for some scale/theory videos that will help you understand how chords are constructed (ie, MAJ chord == 1, 3, 5th notes of the scale)  what kinds of chords work well together, and what scales work well over which chords.   

The scale practice will help you with your guitar-handling technique, as well as learning the upper reaches of the fretboard - remember it all starts over at the 12th!  It doesn't take a lot of time, once you learn the major scale (ionian mode), you can use that as a comparison for what's different in each of the other scale modes.  

 

That won't help you with your rote recitation of the songs you're playing, but it will give you a solid framework that helps you know where things SHOULD go next, so you don't have to rely on note-for-note, bend for bend memorization. 

 

CAVEAT:  I'm just a guy who's been hacking at this a while - I'm not a qualified music instructor, and am only sharing what I'm doing, and how it's worked for me. 



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 02:21 PM

Thanks, I'll keep doing what my teacher instructs and add some extracurricular like you suggest. Glad to hear that my current difficulties are probably a hump in the road and not the end of the road.



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 03:42 PM

 

<SNIP>

I'm very weak on theory nor am I very familiar with the upper reaches of the fret board. I never had any music training prior to this adventure.

 

 

Then you're kind of setting yourself up to be in the same place I found myself - being a decent parrot (only able to mimic what I'd heard, and not really playing anything of my own).   I'd suggest that you go look for some scale/theory videos that will help you understand how chords are constructed (ie, MAJ chord == 1, 3, 5th notes of the scale)  what kinds of chords work well together, and what scales work well over which chords.   

The scale practice will help you with your guitar-handling technique, as well as learning the upper reaches of the fretboard - remember it all starts over at the 12th!  It doesn't take a lot of time, once you learn the major scale (ionian mode), you can use that as a comparison for what's different in each of the other scale modes.  

 

That won't help you with your rote recitation of the songs you're playing, but it will give you a solid framework that helps you know where things SHOULD go next, so you don't have to rely on note-for-note, bend for bend memorization. 

 

CAVEAT:  I'm just a guy who's been hacking at this a while - I'm not a qualified music instructor, and am only sharing what I'm doing, and how it's worked for me. 

 

 

A while... yeah, I picked up a mandolin about 45 years ago, moved to a guitar because all my friends had them; we're kind of opposites in that I cannot pick out familiar melodies by ear. It takes me YEARS to learn to copy songs; but what I can do is start from a fairly basic chord progression and put together something that sounds a lot like the song.

 

I've done a lot of starting and stopping and re-starting on music theory and scales. At one point I practiced every single chord I could find in several guitar books including all the arcane dim13ths etc. Fun stuff, throw one of those in at the end of a phrase and see the reaction. Last couple of years I have been practicing scales a lot and picking up more ability to 'get' melodies to songs.

 

Another fun thing is to take a melody and try to fit a chord into it, take the note and find a chord that note is in; doesn't work think of another chord it's in and try that one. Eventually you either give up and try with the next note or find a chord that sounds good there.

 

I need to do a lot more practice!

 

This has been a fun thread, thanks all.

 

-Doug



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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:32 PM

  Don't forget the pentatonic scales.  Much faster bang for your buck on practice converting to putting together cool sounding licks and solo's.

 Just youtube minor pentatonic scales you'll get many, many great tutorials...



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Posted 13 April 2017 - 02:45 AM

Wife gave me a nylon stringed acoustic/electric Breedlove for Christmas, and I'm stumbling through. Having fun, but it's hard putting my classical music training from years ago aside to learn to play from tabs and improvise.

I picked up the book, "Guitar Scales in Context" by Joseph Alexander off Amazon. My instructor is impressed by the book so it may be worth looking into. Goes into all the different modes. And from it I can agree with Raked about the minor pentagon is.

Oh, and within a month or so of starting, I picked up an Epi Les Paul. Let the addiction begin!

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Posted 13 April 2017 - 01:26 PM

Wife gave me a nylon stringed acoustic/electric Breedlove for Christmas, and I'm stumbling through. Having fun, but it's hard putting my classical music training from years ago aside to learn to play from tabs and improvise.

I picked up the book, "Guitar Scales in Context" by Joseph Alexander off Amazon. My instructor is impressed by the book so it may be worth looking into. Goes into all the different modes. And from it I can agree with Raked about the minor pentagon is.

Oh, and within a month or so of starting, I picked up an Epi Les Paul. Let the addiction begin!

 

You'll need a single-coil pickup guitar next - May I suggest a P-90 SG, or a Tele?  ;-) 



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:59 PM

Maybe one day, if I ever get decent, a semi-hollow electric or a nice steel string acoustic.  I'm good for a while though.

 

The ones you mentioned are nice, though.






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