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#2101 Bill's Sock Puppet

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 11:32 PM

Three J88 one-design weekends in a row on Long Island Sound this fall:
 
September 17-18, 2016 - STC & RYC Long Island Sound Championships
 
Sep 24, 25, 30 & Oct 1,2, 2016 - AYC Fall Regatta & J88 North American Championship

Each weekend will be successively harder:   next weekend we'll see a few more pro's out there and a few more out-of-town hotshots.  (Hopefully the wind cooperates a little better)

 

Most likely, Red Sky happens to be the worst sailed out of all of you.

heh heh heh ... congrats to Red Sky this weekend, they sailed really consist and fast in shifty conditions.



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Posted 27 September 2016 - 02:00 AM

 

Three J88 one-design weekends in a row on Long Island Sound this fall:
 
September 17-18, 2016 - STC & RYC Long Island Sound Championships
 
Sep 24, 25, 30 & Oct 1,2, 2016 - AYC Fall Regatta & J88 North American Championship

Each weekend will be successively harder:   next weekend we'll see a few more pro's out there and a few more out-of-town hotshots.  (Hopefully the wind cooperates a little better)

 

Most likely, Red Sky happens to be the worst sailed out of all of you.

heh heh heh ... congrats to Red Sky this weekend, they sailed really consist and fast in shifty conditions.

 

That only means you all really suck worse  



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Posted 27 September 2016 - 04:25 PM

Indeed, yesterday a friend of mine said the same thing ... like you, he also hasn't sailed competively for years.

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 11:11 PM

Don't need too anymore, and when I did you could beat us.

It only took 150K to finally beat us at spring series



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Posted 01 October 2016 - 12:19 AM

Don't you ever get tired of being bitter?



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Posted 01 October 2016 - 11:56 AM

Don't you ever get tired of being bitter?

I do,

but some just keep asking for it, I don't really think Bill's Sock Puppet wants to compare sailing resume's



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Posted 01 October 2016 - 12:06 PM

I do hope you all realise how totally idiotic this is to everyone else reading.

I'm thinking you're all 12 years old, right? That or you like licking condensation off windows?

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Posted 01 October 2016 - 01:18 PM

 

Don't you ever get tired of being bitter?

I do,

but some just keep asking for it, I don't really think Bill's Sock Puppet wants to compare sailing resume's

 

Wow you must be a former pro cuz the puppet has done more racing this season than I have done in 10 seasons. 



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Posted 01 October 2016 - 04:31 PM

 

 

Don't you ever get tired of being bitter?

I do,

but some just keep asking for it, I don't really think Bill's Sock Puppet wants to compare sailing resume's

 

Wow you must be a former pro cuz the puppet has done more racing this season than I have done in 10 seasons. 

 

Shut the fuck up, nobody talking to you.

Loser



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Posted 03 October 2016 - 02:41 PM

Awesome J88 North Americans at American Yacht Club this weekend:  congrats to Mike Bruno and Team Wings for an outstanding showing and thanks for the out-of-town boats that traveled from as far away as Chicago.  We look forward to seeing everyone again soon.  (I was hoping for some sailing pictures)

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Posted 03 October 2016 - 02:44 PM

Awesome J88 North Americans at American Yacht Club this weekend:  congrats to Mike Bruno and Team Wings for an outstanding showing and thanks for the out-of-town boats that traveled from as far away as Chicago.  We look forward to seeing everyone again soon.  (I was hoping for some sailing pictures)

 

That's over 1.35M spent to finally beat Espo!  :P



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Posted 12 October 2016 - 09:16 AM

2017 Block Island Race Week XXVII – registration is up on Yacht Scoring

 
J 88 East Coast Championship

Storm Trysail Club
Block Island, RI, USA
June 18 - 23, 2017


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 06:51 PM

 

2017 Block Island Race Week XXVII – registration is up on Yacht Scoring

 
J 88 East Coast Championship

Storm Trysail Club
Block Island, RI, USA
June 18 - 23, 2017

 

I hope you don't pick up where you left off at the NA's  



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Posted 12 October 2016 - 10:45 PM

 

 

2017 Block Island Race Week XXVII – registration is up on Yacht Scoring

 
J 88 East Coast Championship

Storm Trysail Club
Block Island, RI, USA
June 18 - 23, 2017

I hope you don't pick up where you left off at the NA's  

 

Hah, I agree.  Fortunately there's a lot of sailing between now and then



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 02:10 AM

Who do I contact in the J/88 Class about coordinating future regattas (e.g. 2018 NAs) with other classes?  It doesn't appear that the class officer structure exists yet on the J/88 Class website.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:05 AM

Who do I contact in the J/88 Class about coordinating future regattas (e.g. 2018 NAs) with other classes?  It doesn't appear that the class officer structure exists yet on the J/88 Class website.

 

WHK,  The J88 Class Structure is what it is:  four Fleet Captains in the US + Jboats make up a Steering Committee.  (The UK Fleet does their own thing.)  The best bet is to contact your closest Fleet Captain with your idea and they will pass along the information, they meet pretty regularly.  I think the J88 class would welcome the camaraderie of other J classes ( even the J29MHOB B) ).  Ultimately it's up to the Organizing Authority for the particular regatta.  Tentatively the Chicago NOOD or Verve Cup are being discussed for the 2018 J88 NAs.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:12 AM

Thanks for the info on J/88 Class.  The J/109 Class has traditionally setup the NAs alternating between BI Race Week in the odd years and at New York YC Race week in the even years.  We are looking to organize 2018 NAs as a stand alone event, or coupled with another class.  Tentatively this would be hosted by one of the Yacht Clubs in Newport, RI.  This is where I'd like to find out if the J/88 Class would be interested in organizing with the J/109 class.  I'm on the J/109 Executive Board and am working this.

 

Additionally we started the J/Fest New England in August 2016 hosted by Bristol YC and had two J/88s there (Yonder and Electra).  We hope to have the dates and host locked in for 2017 by the end of October but it will be in Newport 12-13 August 2017 or 26-27 August 2017.  Once the dates are locked in, we would like to know if this is an event that the J/88 Class would like to have something like a regional or east coast championship.  I'm on the J/Fest New England organizing committee and we worked closely with J/Boats to setup the 2016 event.

 

So... if you have the ear of the J/88 Fleet Captains - pass along the ideas and see if they are interested in one or both of the above.  They can contact me directly, or let Kendra at J/Boats know and she'll let me know.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:38 PM

I have suggested to the J 88 fleet 2 that Newport NYYC Race Week 2018 be the NA's -- would be great for the class



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 12:42 PM

 

Who do I contact in the J/88 Class about coordinating future regattas (e.g. 2018 NAs) with other classes?  It doesn't appear that the class officer structure exists yet on the J/88 Class website.

 

WHK,  The J88 Class Structure is what it is:  four Fleet Captains in the US + Jboats make up a Steering Committee.  (The UK Fleet does their own thing.)  The best bet is to contact your closest Fleet Captain with your idea and they will pass along the information, they meet pretty regularly.  I think the J88 class would welcome the camaraderie of other J classes ( even the J29MHOB B) ).  Ultimately it's up to the Organizing Authority for the particular regatta.  Tentatively the Chicago NOOD or Verve Cup are being discussed for the 2018 J88 NAs.

 

Not sure you want that after your performance at the last couple of regatta's



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 02:25 PM

spoken like a true jepotaco - never really ventured into a one design 



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:12 PM

WHK,  Newport is an awesome sailing venue, and the J88 class would love to pair up with the J109 class for a stand alone event. One-design regattas in Newport have been difficult for the J88 class to support.  I suggest you start with the four local J88 owners first to see if a date can be established.

The working plan is:

 

• North Americans:
  2017 Youngstown, NY (CanAm - Late July)
  2018 Chicago, IL (Verve Cup - Mid August)
  2019 San Francisco, CA

• BIRW Regatta on odd years, and NYYC Regatta on even years.

• J/Fest New England is on the J88 schedule for 2017 (I hope it is the 26-27)



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:09 PM

spoken like a true jepotaco - never really ventured into a one design 

You have no clue, and you can't buy one at West Marine, so go fuck yourself!  



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:48 PM

err, looking at YRALIS PHRF comm. minutes from Sept., I see the J88 is getting a look see at their handicap....any reason?



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:15 PM

WHK,  Newport is an awesome sailing venue, and the J88 class would love to pair up with the J109 class for a stand alone event. One-design regattas in Newport have been difficult for the J88 class to support.  I suggest you start with the four local J88 owners first to see if a date can be established.
The working plan is:
 
• North Americans:
  2017 Youngstown, NY (CanAm - Late July)
  2018 Chicago, IL (Verve Cup - Mid August)
  2019 San Francisco, CA

• BIRW Regatta on odd years, and NYYC Regatta on even years.

• J/Fest New England is on the J88 schedule for 2017 (I hope it is the 26-27)


Strange to see the Verve Cup on there after the J/88 couldn't manage to get a start this year.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:48 PM

err, looking at YRALIS PHRF comm. minutes from Sept., I see the J88 is getting a look see at their handicap....any reason?

 

IDK,  we sailed 14 regattas this year and 7 were One-Design.  I can only guess it's from the amazing results at the Expressly for Fun Regatta with the Youth Team.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 01:22 AM

What's the tally on hull numbers these days?  



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 10:23 AM

What's the tally on hull numbers these days?

I've seen a picture of hull #91 under sail.

And I've seen two reports suggesting they're at or near 100 now, including the J/88 home page.

http://www.jboats.com/j88

Since J/88's successful launch and with nearly 100 boats sailing around the world in 2016, the growing J/88 Owner managed one-design class enjoys very close racing in the US and UK...



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 11:52 AM

What's the tally on hull numbers these days?  

As of 2016 NA's, hull #92 had just left CCFC.

Hull #92 is at McMicheal Yacht Yard ( along with 5 other j88 ) for their annual Boat Show.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 07:00 PM

Thanks for confirming. I'm hoping to get my wife over to check them out? Why are they going to have 5 there? Winter storage? I figured they'd have theirs available to check out.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 07:46 PM

Thanks for confirming. I'm hoping to get my wife over to check them out? Why are they going to have 5 there? Winter storage? I figured they'd have theirs available to check out.

You probably already know, but there are 9 J/88's on southern Lake Mich, 5-7 in Chicago proper if you just want to see one in person.



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 08:09 PM

Thanks for confirming. I'm hoping to get my wife over to check them out? Why are they going to have 5 there? Winter storage? I figured they'd have theirs available to check out.

The other five are there for either winter storage or getting prepped for Key West Race Week.



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Posted 20 October 2016 - 12:30 AM

 

Thanks for confirming. I'm hoping to get my wife over to check them out? Why are they going to have 5 there? Winter storage? I figured they'd have theirs available to check out.

You probably already know, but there are 9 J/88's on southern Lake Mich, 5-7 in Chicago proper if you just want to see one in person.

 

MidPack - Thanks.  My profile needs an update.  I'm out in CT/NY these days.   BSP hooked me up for a ride earlier in the season and I raced NA's with Blondie2. Good times. The joke was the one by the McMichaels office had our name on it.  You never know..... 



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Posted 20 October 2016 - 02:40 PM

Who else is going to KW!!?? I know of one more registering now to make 6 boats.. hoping for more..

Anyone....



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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:51 PM

Who else is going to KW!!?? I know of one more registering now to make 6 boats.. hoping for more..
Anyone....

7 to 9 boats, depending on whether owner intentions actually translates to entries

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 12:49 PM

Anyone know if you can retrofit the pole end on the older boats to have the new 2:1 tack line fitting ?



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 01:01 PM

Anyone know if you can retrofit the pole end on the older boats to have the new 2:1 tack line fitting ?

In what conditions do you need a 2:1 Tack Line?

 

This sketch is from Hall Spars showing a 2:1 Sprit Line and Bobstay



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 01:54 PM

Code zeros work well with a 2:1

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:47 PM

In what conditions would you NOT like it ?

 

I mean do you NEED it no.. but it would seem like a no brainer to make controling the tack easier no?



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:54 PM

Ehhh, If I was just doing W/L racing it would be needless line, time, and complexity flying around. Any kind of reaching race/kite though - toss that bad girl on there. 



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:29 PM

In what conditions would you NOT like it ?

I mean do you NEED it no.. but it would seem like a no brainer to make controlling the tack easier no?

The A2 is only 95 sqm, so it is not that difficult to adjust the tack line by hand or use a nearby winch.
With limited Code Zero experience, we mostly used the halyard for luff tension.



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 08:05 PM

I would never use a tack line for the code-0 as it only introduced additional stretch.

On my J/111 I have a strap (made of heavy sail cloth/dyneema) that goes around the sprit.  The code-0 furler is fixed to it directly.   The strap is stiff enough that it doesn't allow torsion for the furler.   I only use a (2nd) tack line to pull the strap forward on the sprit (it tacks at about mid-sprit).  But as there is almost no tension on that tack line stretch is not an issue.  My 1st tack line then remains available to quickly peel to a gennaker.



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 08:30 PM

I would never use a tack line for the code-0 as it only introduced additional stretch.

On my J/111 I have a strap (made of heavy sail cloth/dyneema) that goes around the sprit.  The code-0 furler is fixed to it directly.   The strap is stiff enough that it doesn't allow torsion for the furler.   I only use a (2nd) tack line to pull the strap forward on the sprit (it tacks at about mid-sprit).  But as there is almost no tension on that tack line stretch is not an issue.  My 1st tack line then remains available to quickly peel to a gennaker.

Sounds a lot like the C0 setup on Blur. http://www.blur.se/2...downwind-sails/

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Posted 22 October 2016 - 05:17 AM

If the halyard doesnt have the ball fully into the sheave then the chafe from the sail working back and forth will work through the Code Zero halyard in no time. Hence the 2:1 tackline. Get the halyard fully two blocked at the top of the mast, lock it off (around a winch), then get the requisite luff cable tension with the 2:1 tackline. No chafing, enough tension. Blammo. 



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Posted 22 October 2016 - 05:45 AM

I hoist the code-0 as tight as possible (with the winch), then pull the hydraulic backstay.



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Posted 24 October 2016 - 08:19 PM

I just wanted to say my thanks to the Hornet crew - I got the chance to visit the boat on the "VIP" day of the boat-show (Thursday) and really appreciated the chance to give it a look over.

 

Nice boat.  To be sure.



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Posted 25 October 2016 - 11:57 AM

Check out the North Tuning guide where Vince Brun suggests a few things that are not class legal..at first I thought this was a fitting on the newer boats.. but it appears to be a custom pole end fitting?

 

 

Check photos of pole end on Page 8- Figure 2-

http://www.offshoreo...J88_7.21.16.pdf

 

 

Now check this link where he talks about moving the spinnaker turning block further fwd ( which I totally agree with also..btw) but also not legal by my account of the rules?

http://www.offshoreo...px?news_id=6881

 

thoughts??



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Posted 02 November 2016 - 06:38 PM

Check out the North Tuning guide where Vince Brun suggests a few things that are not class legal..at first I thought this was a fitting on the newer boats.. but it appears to be a custom pole end fitting?

 

Now check this link where he talks about moving the spinnaker turning block further fwd ( which I totally agree with also..btw) but also not legal by my account of the rules?

 

I have not seen the Custom Pole Fitting ... I have seen a couple boats with the Spinnaker Turning Block moved forward of the stanchion brace.



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Posted 02 November 2016 - 06:43 PM

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Don't forget, you can knock $100 off the registration fee if you sign up and pay by Jan. 31, 2017.



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Posted 03 November 2016 - 11:33 AM

Bill do you think moving the block fwd is legal as the way the rules read?

This is definitely one that makes sense to me and should be allowed.. but ..



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Posted 04 November 2016 - 12:55 PM

Bill do you think moving the block fwd is legal as the way the rules read?

This is definitely one that makes sense to me and should be allowed.. but ..

it should be. the way its set up from factory is badly designed



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Posted 04 November 2016 - 07:27 PM

 

Bill do you think moving the block fwd is legal as the way the rules read?

This is definitely one that makes sense to me and should be allowed.. but ..

it should be. the way its set up from factory is badly designed

 

I assume we're talking about the block by the winch, not the aft block. I can't imagine why you couldn't move that block, though I am curious where to without crossing the jib sheet. I must misunderstand the issue(s).



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 01:20 AM

yes moving the fwd spinnaker ratchet block which is under the support leg of the stanchion base and currently is close to the winch and the jib sheet.. I would think moving it fwd to be 70% of the way ( closer) to the cabin top winch and more in line with it.

 

It would require a pad eye on the deck of some sort, as the next stanchion base is too far fwd,..

So the question becomes.. is it legal to move this block by way of a new pad eye in the deck ?



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 11:17 AM

For all European built J88s the forward spinnaker blocks are mounted to a padeye fixed around 6" forward of the stanchion base

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 01:59 PM

For all European built J88s the forward spinnaker blocks are mounted to a padeye fixed around 6" forward of the stanchion base

Good catch, I (for one) hadn't noticed. I found several pictures confirming on the J/88 website, here's just one.

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 02:32 PM

Thanks.. this looks like a better spot and maybe should be another 6" fwd of that.



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Posted 10 November 2016 - 04:16 PM

Having block further forward also creates more space if you want to cross the spinnaker sheet to the windward secondary winch

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 07:35 PM

So the question becomes.. is it legal to move this block by way of a new pad eye in the deck ?

 

A few months back the question was asked if a JComposites boat could race at Key West Race Week as-is, one-design.  The answer I received, thru the grapevine, was simply "they would need to change the forestay to roller furling."  This seems to suggest that the deck layout of the JComposites boats is a viable alternative to the CCFC deck layout.

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Posted 01 December 2016 - 08:39 PM

oh boy , am I doing this mod? fuck yes



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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:35 PM

Great pics of the Euro spin block setup. I see the Euro inhaulers setup is a little different than the original US layout too (among quite a few other differences). And no cabintop handrail on the Euro, that's surprising IMO.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 08:05 AM

A belated comment on the 2:1 tackline for the code zero:  I don't think it's needed for extra purchase as you already have the winch and backstay to manage that (on BlueFlash we also have an internal clutch for the pole line when using the zeros).

 

 But one nice feature is the ability to furl the zero (without the 2:1 it twists) AND also get the sail off the end of the pole by releasing the tackline as opposed to the gymnastics of tripping the fixed shackle (boat hook, martin breaker etc.).  Peeling from zero to kite then back to zero etc.(Newport Ensenada!) becomes possible without bringing in the pole.

 

Downsides include the extra friction getting the pole out, and the need for a longer tackline tail to accomplish a letterbox drop all the way into the hatch.

 

With a fixed loop lashed at the pole end, you can use a shackle on the tack line for 2:1, and switch back to 1:1 quite easily by undoing the shackle from the pole loop. 

 

This is a nice way to go if you are using the boat for distance racing with a code zero.



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Posted 15 December 2016 - 03:00 AM

Curious what people think the percentage of boats racing anywhere that have had professional bottoms jobs?



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Posted 16 December 2016 - 07:46 AM

Curious what people think the percentage of boats racing anywhere that have had professional bottoms jobs?


Ours has in the UK, not sure how many others have, a few have antifoul sanded back Andy other said have standard antifoul. Having said that every boat that is actively raced here (about 8 boats) is dry sailed

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:13 AM

J88 East Coast Championship info from Iris, J88 Fleet 2, Fleet Captain

 

 

Happy New Year to everyone!

 
Here are some important links for Block Island Race Week:  http://www.yachtscor...nu.cfm?eID=2954
 
The Block Island Ferry reservation office opens at 7:am on January 4th.  Good luck!  (866) 783-7996 ext. 3
 
Make your slip reservation at Block Island Boat basin: http://bibbreserve.c...vation-request/
 
There are many options to find housing but the car ferry is the most important as it fills up quickly.
 
2017 BIRW will be the J88 East Coast Championship so don't miss this one!  Also, it is not too late to sign up for St Petersburg NOOD and Charleston Race Week.
 
Let me know if you need help with information or logistics,
 
Best,
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 04:26 PM

There will be a J/88 (#83 for sale) on display at the Chicago Boat, RV & Strictly Sail Show in the OD section Jan 11-15 (Wed thru Sun). Fleet 4 boat owners and crew will be on hand:

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to talk about the boat or OD racing. And the Midwest dealer, Rich Stearns, has space nearby if you want to talk with the local J/Boats dealer.



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:00 PM

CHARLESTON RACE WEEK 2017..

Who is in????

 

Registration is a bit poor at the moment.. who else is missing?

 

Fun event that should be on the calendar.



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:05 PM

We did CRW in 2014. It was a great event in every respect except the offshore circle 4 (J/88's in 2014-2016) was a minimum of 1:15 hrs away motoring at full throttle. Unless the offshore circle was moved, it's a long slog. In 3 days we got in 6 races, with NO races the third day (that was a fun 2:30 hrs motoring for nothing) vs 7-10 races for the inshore classes. We haven't been back.  Great event if you're on the inshore circles 1, 2 or 3. And Charleston is a great town!

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 07:31 PM

We did CRW in 2014. It was a great event in every respect except the offshore circle 4 (J/88's in 2014) was a minimum of 1:15 hrs away motoring at full throttle. Unless the offshore circle was moved, it's a long slog. In 3 days we got in 6 races, with NO races the third day (that was a fun 2:30 hrs motoring for nothing) vs 7-10 races for the inshore classes. We haven't been back.  Great event if you're on the inshore circles 1, 2 or 3. And Charleston is a great town!

Yeah offshore sucks unless you are in a boat that motors 10 knots and even then its a long day. You should try that program with a 4hp outboard powered boat. Sucks doesn't even begin to describe it. Fucking 7am boat call and then by the time you get back the party is half done and that is if nothing needs to be fixed or worked on. Then its no party for you. I haven't been back since we got booted out of the inner harbor by the large influx of OD little boats. It was way cool when it was smaller and held at the yacht club. Too big for its britches nowadays.



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 09:58 PM

I hear everyone and in fairness i have always been on the inshore circles.. but it seems like ( aside from last year with crazy weather) its still worth the trip for the competition and shoreside fun..

Hoping we could get a solid fleet of J88's to go..

I know of at least another two other boats that are considering going.. Wings and Spaceman... would be nice to get everyone to give a yeah or nay sooner than later for logistical purposes..



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:35 AM

 

We did CRW in 2014. It was a great event in every respect except the offshore circle 4 (J/88's in 2014) was a minimum of 1:15 hrs away motoring at full throttle. Unless the offshore circle was moved, it's a long slog. In 3 days we got in 6 races, with NO races the third day (that was a fun 2:30 hrs motoring for nothing) vs 7-10 races for the inshore classes. We haven't been back.  Great event if you're on the inshore circles 1, 2 or 3. And Charleston is a great town!

Yeah offshore sucks unless you are in a boat that motors 10 knots and even then its a long day. You should try that program with a 4hp outboard powered boat. Sucks doesn't even begin to describe it. Fucking 7am boat call and then by the time you get back the party is half done and that is if nothing needs to be fixed or worked on. Then its no party for you. I haven't been back since we got booted out of the inner harbor by the large influx of OD little boats. It was way cool when it was smaller and held at the yacht club. Too big for its britches nowadays.

 

Yep - been there -done that won't do it again.  Inshore is ok - the racing kinda sucks as it is mostly a banging the corner kind of place due to the currents.



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:40 PM

More "good news" for CRW if you're not racing OD. You might get to buy another cert!

 

https://www.facebook...IMELINE&fref=nf

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 07:55 PM

CRW update:

 

Working on putting them [j88's] in the harbor. No promises yet but we are adding a fourth course and should be able to start you with the GP26 class and score you one design. If it doesn't work then it will have to be on the offshore course. 

 


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Posted 03 February 2017 - 08:10 PM

CRW update:

 
Working on putting them [j88's] in the harbor. No promises yet but we are adding a fourth course and should be able to start you with the GP26 class and score you one design. If it doesn't work then it will have to be on the offshore course. 

That would make a huge difference IMO.

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 07:12 PM

 

CRW update:

 
Working on putting them [j88's] in the harbor. No promises yet but we are adding a fourth course and should be able to start you with the GP26 class and score you one design. If it doesn't work then it will have to be on the offshore course. 

That would make a huge difference IMO.

 

it would bu it won't happen - there is simply no room



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 03:57 PM

 

 

CRW update:

Working on putting them [j88's] in the harbor. No promises yet but we are adding a fourth course and should be able to start you with the GP26 class and score you one design. If it doesn't work then it will have to be on the offshore course. [/font][/color]

 

That would make a huge difference IMO.

 

it would bu it won't happen - there is simply no room

 

 
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Raceweekers! What's the latest refinement for 2017? A fourth inshore race course. That's right. To allow for additional classes, we'll be setting up a new circle just northwest of regatta headquarters at the Charleston Harbor Resort & Marina. Serious racing. Serious fun. That's #CRW

That's close to the Bar :)



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

Which one, the sand one or the wet one? :rolleyes:



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 04:21 PM

Good luck racing there unless the wind is perfectly aligned. Too tiny. But hey dodging big ass ships is always fun and you will be first to the bar if you dont get run over



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 04:36 PM

J/88 Fleet 2 Event - 2017 J/Fest New England hosted at Sail Newport (11-13 August)

 

Click the logo to register now - pay no money until the 14 July due date! 

 

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J/88 owners are welcome to register for the J/Fest New England regatta.  Iris Vogel has included the J/Fest on the 2017 Fleet 2 calendar.  Five boats gets you a one design class, or less than 5 you are in the J/Asym PHRF class.

 

The J/Fest website is up, registration is open and the NOR is posted.  $250 registration fee for a great race weekend.  Similar to last year. we will have sponsorship to support a great event with quality skipper bags and swag too.

 

Click on the logo for the J/Fest New England Website.  Registration link is in the menu.

 

  • Friday Check-in, Skipper meeting, North Sails Weather & Local Knowledge Brief - We may be the first group in the new Sail Newport Mid Park Marine Education & Training Center
  • Saturday Racing, Social and BBQ under the tent at Ft. Adams
  • Sunday Racing and Awards presentation at Ft. Adams 

The regatta website has complete information about dockage, places to stay, directions and food.  The food section will be augmented so you can easily get crew lunches.

 

Post here if you plan on attending.  



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 05:03 PM

 

CRW update:

 

Working on putting them [j88's] in the harbor. No promises yet but we are adding a fourth course and should be able to start you with the GP26 class and score you one design. If it doesn't work then it will have to be on the offshore course. 

 

 

Have you come out of your depression from KW yet?



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 05:51 PM

 

 

 

 

 

it would bu it won't happen - there is simply no room

 

 
From Facebook

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Raceweekers! What's the latest refinement for 2017? A fourth inshore race course. That's right. To allow for additional classes, we'll be setting up a new circle just northwest of regatta headquarters at the Charleston Harbor Resort & Marina. Serious racing. Serious fun. That's #CRW

That's close to the Bar :)

 

Close to the bar but will have nothing to do with racing - that area is simply not conducive to racing - look at how many groundings happened with the boats racing there last year.  You might as well not bring your boat and just go for the party



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 06:06 PM

Close to the bar but will have nothing to do with racing - that area is simply not conducive to racing - look at how many groundings happened with the boats racing there last year.  You might as well not bring your boat and just go for the party

 

They didn't say the J88 and GP26 would actually be using that 4th Circle.  is there a class that can use an E-W ½ mile leg? Fortunately, the prevailing wind that time of year is SSW.
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Posted 06 February 2017 - 06:17 PM

Have you come out of your depression from KW yet?

John, I race about 35 weekends a year, I can't get too depressed over losing to better sailed boats. I do I appreciate your concern though.



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Posted 06 February 2017 - 06:29 PM

 

Have you come out of your depression from KW yet?

John, I race about 35 weekends a year, I can't get too depressed over losing to better sailed boats. I do I appreciate your concern though.

 

That's your problem



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:24 PM

McMichael just sold two more boats into Connecticut (Riverside and Norwalk), both owners plan to campaign the boats so that's a big step forward for fleet building. Plenty of one design events planned this summer and potentially a J88 class for the Vineyard Race short course!

 

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 06:45 PM

Charleston is confirming that J-88's will race inside..

 

4 boats are in( 2 registered but 2 more def are in) 

 

Who else wants to join the party??



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:10 PM

don't let jesPOSitaco bother you. he only spouts off on others to cover up his shortcomings. 



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:04 AM

don't let jesPOSitaco bother you. he only spouts off on others to cover up his shortcomings.

John's a good sailor and has great foresight into sailing - ETNZ is following his lead in blending pedal power and sailing as a sport.

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:11 AM

Charleston is confirming that J-88's will race inside..
 
4 boats are in( 2 registered but 2 more def are in) 
 
Who else wants to join the party??

j88 class is in Inshore Circle One:
http://www.yachtscor...et.cfm?eID=2997

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 05:54 PM

 

Charleston is confirming that J-88's will race inside..
 
4 boats are in( 2 registered but 2 more def are in) 
 
Who else wants to join the party??

j88 class is in Inshore Circle One:
http://www.yachtscor...et.cfm?eID=2997

 

It will be like racing cars on a sidewalk



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Posted 23 February 2017 - 08:51 PM

J-88 North Americans at YYC - Youngstown NY- July 28-30-

Then LYRA Race Week- at Rochester YC is immediately following..July 31-Aug 6th- Blend of sprint race, overnight 80-90 NM race and then 3 days of course racing( FRI-SUN)

 

Check info Here! https://www.facebook...10735235774691/

 

Would be great to have 2 events in Lake Ontario on the same trip!

Locals will arrange free housing, dockage and help with transport and hauling for the event.

RYC has their own Travel lift on site.



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Posted Today, 12:27 AM

J-88 North Americans at YYC - Youngstown NY- July 28-30-
Then LYRA Race Week- at Rochester YC is immediately following..July 31-Aug 6th- Blend of sprint race, overnight 80-90 NM race and then 3 days of course racing( FRI-SUN)
 
Check info Here! https://www.facebook...10735235774691/
 
Would be great to have 2 events in Lake Ontario on the same trip!
Locals will arrange free housing, dockage and help with transport and hauling for the event.
RYC has their own Travel lift on site.

 
So I sent this to Iris ...
 

LYRA – We can do this!  

I have drafted an itinerary, let me know what you think:
 

Friday, Saturday, Sunday:
CanAm - J88 North Americans

Sunday afternoon:
motor 25nm to Toronto.

Monday:
Centennial Race, 90nm, Toronto to Rochester, then motor 25nm to Sodus Bay.

Tuesday:
Founders Race East, 25mm, Sodus Bay to Rochester

Wednesday:
Freeman Cup: Rochester- Sodus - ODAS - Rochester, 95nm

Thursday:
hitchhike to Yougnstown, get Van and Trailer and drive to Rochester

Friday, Saturday, Sunday:
LYRA Course Races, up to 9 races scheduled

Sunday night:
Haul boat, pack up, and drive to Mamaroneck

Monday:
Launch boat and step rig
 

Tuesday:
Go back to work ...

We're probably going to need to arrange underway replenishment at some point, something simple, perhaps preprogramed rocket launched parachutes or automated drones can drop-off food and water to our location on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday mornings before each race.

 

let me think about this.

I think that means "if the J88's get a one-design start we're in."






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