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#1 HHN92

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:58 AM

Figured all the other J's have a thread, we need on for ourselves. I know of SV Great White, and others that escape me, but let's get a roll-call going.

We have hull #48, based in Tampa Bay at Davis Island Yacht Club.

If you have any pertinent info or questions, get 'em here..........................................



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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:42 AM

isn't Tampa Bay a bit shallow for a J35??

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:26 PM

isn't Tampa Bay a bit shallow for a J35??


so is the Chesapeake.. your point?

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 03:12 PM

isn't Tampa Bay a bit shallow for a J35??


so is the Chesapeake.. your point?



no point. I've just heard many stories of how shallow TB is.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:01 PM

isn't Tampa Bay a bit shallow for a J35??


so is the Chesapeake.. your point?



no point. I've just heard many stories of how shallow TB is.


In certain spots.........................some which I have verified. ;)

Our general sailing area will handle 7'er's ok. We've even had 7.5' like 1d35, Tripp 40, & F395's around. The trickiest part is getting in and out of some yacht clubs and channels. Up by DIYC in the winter, a low-low tide and a strong northerly blowing makes things interesting, having to transit to the lower bay to set any courses.

Owner of the T40 & 1d35 used to have me drive on the way out all the time, so I have learned where all the tight spots are. Going into Clearwater YC you have to go outside the channel marker at one spot to get there, as the channel has moved but they have not moved the markers. Real fun at night.

Many a time you are in the channel and birds are walking on the shoal only a few feet away from you.

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 10:49 PM

Figured all the other J's have a thread, we need on for ourselves. I know of SV Great White, and others that escape me, but let's get a roll-call going.

We have hull #48, based in Tampa Bay at Davis Island Yacht Club.

If you have any pertinent info or questions, get 'em here..........................................



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Yep, I have hull #117 and I sail out of Bremerton, Wa. Owned this boat for 10 years.

This forum probably originated from complaints from the same people who don't want to race in the same class with me or with any other J boat. They probably don't want us in the regular forums! :o

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 03:02 AM

BadDog.jpg Hull #105 Bad Dog, Muskegon Yacht Club, Muskegon MI

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 03:05 AM

Figured all the other J's have a thread, we need on for ourselves. I know of SV Great White, and others that escape me, but let's get a roll-call going.

We have hull #48, based in Tampa Bay at Davis Island Yacht Club.

If you have any pertinent info or questions, get 'em here..........................................



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man that's a old and tired J. Remember vs. that boat in it's prime though. in fact i'm looking at a photo of it right behind me in a circa mid 90's Michelob cup

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:24 AM

Hull : 293 "No Tomorrows"

Ordered it from the factory and still have the thing. Great boat! Had many adventures in it.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 10:28 AM

TIME MACHINE (#134). We sail out of North Cape Yacht Club and have lots of fun mixing it up with the Lake St. Clair and Huron boats.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 02:45 PM

TIME MACHINE (#134). We sail out of North Cape Yacht Club and have lots of fun mixing it up with the Lake St. Clair and Huron boats.

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Interesting shot with the staysail. Have wondered about using one on point-to-point races. Does it help enough to where it is worth the extra effort?

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 02:52 PM

Figured all the other J's have a thread, we need on for ourselves. I know of SV Great White, and others that escape me, but let's get a roll-call going.

We have hull #48, based in Tampa Bay at Davis Island Yacht Club.

If you have any pertinent info or questions, get 'em here..........................................



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man that's a old and tired J. Remember vs. that boat in it's prime though. in fact i'm looking at a photo of it right behind me in a circa mid 90's Michelob cup


As 'Spanish Fly' or 'My Girl'?

Originally this boat was 'Kaya' out of New Orleans from what I understand. Heard from a guy that sailed on or against her back in the day. She came to Tampa around 1990-91.

She can still run with the best of them, we just need to be able to take the time and give her what she needs. Hopefully that will come. Working on a few things now and hope to do more in the future.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 03:18 PM

Figured all the other J's have a thread, we need on for ourselves. I know of SV Great White, and others that escape me, but let's get a roll-call going.

We have hull #48, based in Tampa Bay at Davis Island Yacht Club.

If you have any pertinent info or questions, get 'em here..........................................



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man that's a old and tired J. Remember vs. that boat in it's prime though. in fact i'm looking at a photo of it right behind me in a circa mid 90's Michelob cup


As 'Spanish Fly' or 'My Girl'?

Originally this boat was 'Kaya' out of New Orleans from what I understand. Heard from a guy that sailed on or against her back in the day. She came to Tampa around 1990-91.

She can still run with the best of them, we just need to be able to take the time and give her what she needs. Hopefully that will come. Working on a few things now and hope to do more in the future.


nope she was racing as rocket in the nineties - did really well back then

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 03:39 PM

The TWA where it works is pretty limited, so you need a small and quick FU member for the douses. When we can get the right angle it can add .2 to .3 to the boatspeed.

The tack is part of the bag, so when you haul it down, it just gets stuffed in the bag and the sail just sits there with the halyard and sheet clipped on until your ready to try again. Pull the halyard and you're ready to go.

Helps keep the crew occupied and on the long races.

TIME MACHINE (#134). We sail out of North Cape Yacht Club and have lots of fun mixing it up with the Lake St. Clair and Huron boats.

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Interesting shot with the staysail. Have wondered about using one on point-to-point races. Does it help enough to where it is worth the extra effort?



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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:12 PM

BadDog.jpg Hull #105 Bad Dog, Muskegon Yacht Club, Muskegon MI



Go the Dog! It's been too long since I've joined you guys, have to change that next year.

Hope you, the family and crew have a great holidays.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:21 PM

BadDog.jpg Hull #105 Bad Dog, Muskegon Yacht Club, Muskegon MI



Go the Dog! It's been too long since I've joined you guys, have to change that next year.

Hope you, the family and crew have a great holidays.


think about Chi NOODs or Top of the Lake

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:35 AM

Billy W ..... What's that saying "If you ain't rubbin you ain't racin". Didn't need that stinkin bow light anyway. Give me a call after the holidays, Merry Christmas.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:57 AM

The wifey and I are coming down to Clearwater for Dec 26 through the 2nd or 3rd, maybe longer.

Any chance of getting out on the bay racing or just sailing around a bit?

Experience with J24, Melges 24, J30, and various racing keelboats 30 - 70 feet.

I did the St. Pete NOODS a few years back so I know where that club is, never been to Davis Island YC.

Any anarchist advice is helpful.

Brendan

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:08 AM

The wifey and I are coming down to Clearwater for Dec 26 through the 2nd or 3rd, maybe longer.

Any chance of getting out on the bay racing or just sailing around a bit?

Experience with J24, Melges 24, J30, and various racing keelboats 30 - 70 feet.

I did the St. Pete NOODS a few years back so I know where that club is, never been to Davis Island YC.

Any anarchist advice is helpful.

Brendan

Brendan,

If you've got J/30 experience then perhaps a field trip over to the 30 class forum to talk to VeeJay is in order. He sails a J/30 (named VeeJay) out of the area and is a great and welcoming guy. PM Me if you have any more questions about reaching him.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:45 PM

The wifey and I are coming down to Clearwater for Dec 26 through the 2nd or 3rd, maybe longer.

Any chance of getting out on the bay racing or just sailing around a bit?

Experience with J24, Melges 24, J30, and various racing keelboats 30 - 70 feet.

I did the St. Pete NOODS a few years back so I know where that club is, never been to Davis Island YC.

Any anarchist advice is helpful.

Brendan



At DIYC the only thing going is the Egmont Key race, a distance event on Jan. 2nd. Race starts at 10 am and usually finishes in the early hours of the 3rd, depending on the wind.

We're down for maintenance on our boat (Yanmar sitting in the middle of the cabin sole). I'll ask around and pm you if I get a contact. If things don't work-out, at least maybe plan a ride over to the club for the start to see the place. We have a great balcony that will give you a 'front row' view, and would welcome your visit.

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http://www.diyc.org/

Photo of last years pre-start, with the clubhouse in the background:

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That is the 'infamous' XS, the boat that broke and then repaired their mast in KWRW last year.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:57 PM

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J35 Falcon in 2006 NA's in Annapolis.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 09:05 PM

The wifey and I are coming down to Clearwater for Dec 26 through the 2nd or 3rd, maybe longer.

Any chance of getting out on the bay racing or just sailing around a bit?

Experience with J24, Melges 24, J30, and various racing keelboats 30 - 70 feet.

I did the St. Pete NOODS a few years back so I know where that club is, never been to Davis Island YC.

Any anarchist advice is helpful.

Brendan



At DIYC the only thing going is the Egmont Key race, a distance event on Jan. 2nd. Race starts at 10 am and usually finishes in the early hours of the 3rd, depending on the wind.

We're down for maintenance on our boat (Yanmar sitting in the middle of the cabin sole). I'll ask around and pm you if I get a contact. If things don't work-out, at least maybe plan a ride over to the club for the start to see the place. We have a great balcony that will give you a 'front row' view, and would welcome your visit.

Website link:

http://www.diyc.org/

Photo of last years pre-start, with the clubhouse in the background:

2008_10_26_016.jpg




That is the 'infamous' XS, the boat that broke and then repaired their mast in KWRW last year.


I saw those guys fixing their mast in the parking lot, pretty tenacious.

We'll try to get over to DIYC for a look around at least, if not a sailing excursion. I'll pack along some gear.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 09:43 PM

The wifey and I are coming down to Clearwater for Dec 26 through the 2nd or 3rd, maybe longer.

Any chance of getting out on the bay racing or just sailing around a bit?

Experience with J24, Melges 24, J30, and various racing keelboats 30 - 70 feet.

I did the St. Pete NOODS a few years back so I know where that club is, never been to Davis Island YC.

Any anarchist advice is helpful.

Brendan

Brendan,

If you've got J/30 experience then perhaps a field trip over to the 30 class forum to talk to VeeJay is in order. He sails a J/30 (named VeeJay) out of the area and is a great and welcoming guy. PM Me if you have any more questions about reaching him.


This guy?

http://captainvic.co...y2009Naples.htm

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 10:39 AM

Let's see if we can un-hijack this thread.... Want a ride? Take it to crew-anarchy! Where are all the J/35s. There are 324 of them out there.

Based on this thread so far we have
  • Rocket
  • Bad Dog
  • Falcon
  • Time Machine
Let's hear from the rest of the fleet out there.
I'll start by adding a few that I know of
Hull 130 Jubilate Deo, Western Lake Erie
Hull 74 Habenero, Muskegon
Hull 135 Bule Magic, Eastern Lake Erie

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:21 PM

I own Hull # 238 sailing on Saginaw Bay Lake Huron.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:52 PM

Ant Jean. Still doing it.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:55 PM

On the way to Oxford

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:37 PM

I own Hull # 238 sailing on Saginaw Bay Lake Huron.


Good to see the BERNOULLI boat on the list

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:05 PM

Let's see if we can un-hijack this thread.... Want a ride? Take it to crew-anarchy! Where are all the J/35s. There are 324 of them out there.

Based on this thread so far we have

  • Rocket
  • Bad Dog
  • Falcon
  • Time Machine
Let's hear from the rest of the fleet out there.
I'll start by adding a few that I know of
Hull 130 Jubilate Deo, Western Lake Erie
Hull 74 Habenero, Muskegon
Hull 135 Bule Magic, Eastern Lake Erie



OK, back on task, we have hull #73 'Time Bandit', and another 'Hot Water', which is a newer hull ('89-'90 I think) at DIYC.

A red one, 'Pocket Rocket' was sold and went to the New Orleans area, replacing a Katrina damaged J30, as I understand it.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 07:29 AM

former Split Decision, former PAGAN, now Bump in the Night on the Chesapeake bay.. I'd have to look up the hull #

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 07:07 PM

former Split Decision, former PAGAN, now Bump in the Night on the Chesapeake bay.. I'd have to look up the hull #

Hey BUMP,
good to have you along for the ride. Your Hull # is 52, I think....

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 09:10 PM

Another pic of our boat, well.............just cause I like J35's.

And I like the shots that have been posted, keep them coming.


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Posted 26 December 2009 - 08:00 AM

A cool picture taken at the 2003 North Americans (Toronto). 30 boats on the line!

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 08:26 PM

bs_beam_rch2.jpg here is my 35
not class legal but sweet phrf boat! Boat is about 90% rebuilt or replaced in all catogories carbon rig ,a sails etc....

if not class racing its the best alternative for a 35

has the full interior as well great for cuising as well

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 08:38 PM

bs_beam_rch2.jpg here is my 35
not class legal but sweet phrf boat! Boat is about 90% rebuilt or replaced in all catogories carbon rig ,a sails etc....

if not class racing its the best alternative for a 35

has the full interior as well great for cuising as well

jk

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So you have hull 143? Looks like a deck-mounted sprit, is that on centerline or off-set? Carbon boom also?

What gains do you feel this had made and what rating hit did you take?

She looks great and is an interesting boat.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 09:18 PM

Ant Jean. Still doing it.



One of the all-time great battle flags.

Sailed against them in BI Race Week, 89. Great J 35 regatta. Rush, Touch of Grey, Celerity, Another Unoriginal Sin, J'ai Tu and a host of other great programs. Something like 28 on the line for the week.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 09:55 PM

bs_beam_rch2.jpg here is my 35
not class legal but sweet phrf boat! Boat is about 90% rebuilt or replaced in all catogories carbon rig ,a sails etc....

if not class racing its the best alternative for a 35

has the full interior as well great for cuising as well

jk

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So you have hull 143? Looks like a deck-mounted sprit, is that on centerline or off-set? Carbon boom also?

What gains do you feel this had made and what rating hit did you take?

She looks great and is an interesting boat.


thanks

she rate 69 the same as the 109s I race against way to get to 69 is as folows:
base 72

repace rudder with carbon one 18" deeper about half the chord net same area.. -1 sec

now 71

added carbon rig and boom - 3sec - 68

fwd cabin deluxe full teak interior boat trim was down 2 " on bow class float line 1 sec credit =69

took off all syms and pole used asym tacked on bow +9sec =78

istalled retrating sprit on deck , tack on ctrline, pole offsenter fixed - 3sec / 10% spl added pushed it out 30% which equals -9 sec = 69

all carbon 3dl inventory as complete range of chute as well as staysail

boat sails equal or better than the 109s if I am on my game lots of fun mixing up with them as an old warhorse design with improvments

jk

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Posted 27 December 2009 - 03:22 AM

bs_beam_rch2.jpg here is my 35
not class legal but sweet phrf boat! Boat is about 90% rebuilt or replaced in all catogories carbon rig ,a sails etc....

if not class racing its the best alternative for a 35

has the full interior as well great for cuising as well

jk

"BlackSeal"


So you have hull 143? Looks like a deck-mounted sprit, is that on centerline or off-set? Carbon boom also?

What gains do you feel this had made and what rating hit did you take?

She looks great and is an interesting boat.


thanks

she rate 69 the same as the 109s I race against way to get to 69 is as folows:
base 72

repace rudder with carbon one 18" deeper about half the chord net same area.. -1 sec

now 71

added carbon rig and boom - 3sec - 68

fwd cabin deluxe full teak interior boat trim was down 2 " on bow class float line 1 sec credit =69

took off all syms and pole used asym tacked on bow +9sec =78

istalled retrating sprit on deck , tack on ctrline, pole offsenter fixed - 3sec / 10% spl added pushed it out 30% which equals -9 sec = 69

all carbon 3dl inventory as complete range of chute as well as staysail

boat sails equal or better than the 109s if I am on my game lots of fun mixing up with them as an old warhorse design with improvments

jk


Thanks for the breakdown. I've already received an e-mail from one of the partners in our boat (there are 3 of us) to stop the wheels from turning in my head.................................

Do you still have the pieces to return her to class specs? (if ever needed?)

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 03:30 AM

bs_beam_rch2.jpg here is my 35
not class legal but sweet phrf boat! Boat is about 90% rebuilt or replaced in all catogories carbon rig ,a sails etc....

if not class racing its the best alternative for a 35

has the full interior as well great for cuising as well

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So you have hull 143? Looks like a deck-mounted sprit, is that on centerline or off-set? Carbon boom also?

What gains do you feel this had made and what rating hit did you take?

She looks great and is an interesting boat.


sold them all off.


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she rate 69 the same as the 109s I race against way to get to 69 is as folows:
base 72

repace rudder with carbon one 18" deeper about half the chord net same area.. -1 sec

now 71

added carbon rig and boom - 3sec - 68

fwd cabin deluxe full teak interior boat trim was down 2 " on bow class float line 1 sec credit =69

took off all syms and pole used asym tacked on bow +9sec =78

istalled retrating sprit on deck , tack on ctrline, pole offsenter fixed - 3sec / 10% spl added pushed it out 30% which equals -9 sec = 69

all carbon 3dl inventory as complete range of chute as well as staysail

boat sails equal or better than the 109s if I am on my game lots of fun mixing up with them as an old warhorse design with improvments

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Thanks for the breakdown. I've already received an e-mail from one of the partners in our boat (there are 3 of us) to stop the wheels from turning in my head.................................

Do you still have the pieces to return her to class specs? (if ever needed?)



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Posted 28 December 2009 - 05:28 PM

Hi all from Port Huron. We have a few J35s left from the original fleet: Major Detail, Steelin Gold and Griffin. Ragtime is across the border in Sarnia, I think, althouggh it hasn't been out to race. Original owners on Detail and Gold from the glory days.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:59 AM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:59 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.

NICE... I see that you are looking back at your competition... must be out front!
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:30 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.



Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:18 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.



Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.

HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:31 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.



Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.

HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.

I want to say that I believe that about 15 boats were built with the bathtub cockpit. I looked at one in Seattle in 1999 before I bought mine. I believe that it was built in 1991. Definatly differant feel to the cockpit, shallower, wider and longer. And the interior seemed differant. Most of the wood was gone and everything was white(except for the cushions). Definatly bright. I would have bought it except I did not have the $$$$'s in the budget!

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 09:47 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.



Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.

HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.

I want to say that I believe that about 15 boats were built with the bathtub cockpit. I looked at one in Seattle in 1999 before I bought mine. I believe that it was built in 1991. Definatly differant feel to the cockpit, shallower, wider and longer. And the interior seemed differant. Most of the wood was gone and everything was white(except for the cushions). Definatly bright. I would have bought it except I did not have the $$$$'s in the budget!


Seems like the cockpit came from around the time they were doing the 33?

Sailed one from Clearwater to Key West one time and always thought the boat was a 35 with 2' cut-off. Several years later when I got on a 35 I wondered what was so different. A 33 came to our club and I was able to do the direct comparison. The tiller was around my knees on the 33 and a little higher on the 35. I had used my legs to keep from over-steering the 33 downwind with the waves. Worked good except the owner, who sat in the companionway for quite a bit, did not like it when we were by-the-lee when riding a wave down for some vmg. Had a bulkhead mounted wind indicator and he would tap it and tell me to get back on course.

Guess he never sailed a Sunfish................................. ;)

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:15 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.

Are you sailing with "turbo" sails? Seems like you had pics of a fat head main that you built a couple of years ago? Or am I halucinating again?

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:21 PM

and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.



Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.

HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.

I want to say that I believe that about 15 boats were built with the bathtub cockpit. I looked at one in Seattle in 1999 before I bought mine. I believe that it was built in 1991. Definatly differant feel to the cockpit, shallower, wider and longer. And the interior seemed differant. Most of the wood was gone and everything was white(except for the cushions). Definatly bright. I would have bought it except I did not have the $$$$'s in the budget!


Seems like the cockpit came from around the time they were doing the 33?

Sailed one from Clearwater to Key West one time and always thought the boat was a 35 with 2' cut-off. Several years later when I got on a 35 I wondered what was so different. A 33 came to our club and I was able to do the direct comparison. The tiller was around my knees on the 33 and a little higher on the 35. I had used my legs to keep from over-steering the 33 downwind with the waves. Worked good except the owner, who sat in the companionway for quite a bit, did not like it when we were by-the-lee when riding a wave down for some vmg. Had a bulkhead mounted wind indicator and he would tap it and tell me to get back on course.

Guess he never sailed a Sunfish................................. ;)

Might have been developed about the same time as the J33, but it is differant. The bathtub on the J35 seems a lot larger in comparison. There is no bridge deck and there are low coamings(which could take away some of the thrill of water washing into the cockpit) and it seemed like it was quite shallow. The one I looked at in 1999 is still in the area and next week I will be at the marina where it moors. I can take a look again.

I actually really like the 33. Have not sailed on one, but they seem nearly as fast as the 35(sometimes faster). I looked at one in Vancouver BC just before I bought the 33. It was not in very good condition, but could be bought for not much.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 10:57 PM

[quote name='svgreatwhite' post='2642487' date='Dec 30 2009, 05:21 PM'][quote name='HHN92' post='2642439' date='Dec 30 2009, 01:47 PM'][quote name='svgreatwhite' post='2642431' date='Dec 30 2009, 04:31 PM'][quote name='J35M8' post='2642229' date='Dec 30 2009, 11:18 AM'][quote name='HHN92' post='2642052' date='Dec 30 2009, 12:30 PM'][quote name='George Hackett' post='2641582' date='Dec 30 2009, 02:59 AM']and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.[/quote]


Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.
[/quote]
HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.
[/quote]
I want to say that I believe that about 15 boats were built with the bathtub cockpit. I looked at one in Seattle in 1999 before I bought mine. I believe that it was built in 1991. Definatly differant feel to the cockpit, shallower, wider and longer. And the interior seemed differant. Most of the wood was gone and everything was white(except for the cushions). Definatly bright. I would have bought it except I did not have the $$$$'s in the budget!
[/quote]

Seems like the cockpit came from around the time they were doing the 33?

Sailed one from Clearwater to Key West one time and always thought the boat was a 35 with 2' cut-off. Several years later when I got on a 35 I wondered what was so different. A 33 came to our club and I was able to do the direct comparison. The tiller was around my knees on the 33 and a little higher on the 35. I had used my legs to keep from over-steering the 33 downwind with the waves. Worked good except the owner, who sat in the companionway for quite a bit, did not like it when we were by-the-lee when riding a wave down for some vmg. Had a bulkhead mounted wind indicator and he would tap it and tell me to get back on course.

Guess he never sailed a Sunfish................................. ;)
[/quote]
Might have been developed about the same time as the J33, but it is differant. The bathtub on the J35 seems a lot larger in comparison. There is no bridge deck and there are low coamings(which could take away some of the thrill of water washing into the cockpit) and it seemed like it was quite shallow. The one I looked at in 1999 is still in the area and next week I will be at the marina where it moors. I can take a look again.

I actually really like the 33. Have not sailed on one, but they seem nearly as fast as the 35(sometimes faster). I looked at one in Vancouver BC just before I bought the 35 (ooops, I'm sure). It was not in very good condition, but could be bought for not much.
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They are close enough in speed to be irritating :P

The 35 has an edge in big breeze upwind, but the 33 is close or better in other conditions. Hard to shake one with only a 3 sec rating differential.................................

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 11:08 PM

[quote name='HHN92' post='2642536' date='Dec 30 2009, 02:57 PM'][quote name='svgreatwhite' post='2642487' date='Dec 30 2009, 05:21 PM'][quote name='HHN92' post='2642439' date='Dec 30 2009, 01:47 PM'][quote name='svgreatwhite' post='2642431' date='Dec 30 2009, 04:31 PM'][quote name='J35M8' post='2642229' date='Dec 30 2009, 11:18 AM'][quote name='HHN92' post='2642052' date='Dec 30 2009, 12:30 PM'][quote name='George Hackett' post='2641582' date='Dec 30 2009, 02:59 AM']and yes even in asia there are J-35s. this is our J from manila called Jo de Ros.[/quote]


Aha, one of those 'bathtub' cockpit models. I understand these were boats built late in the production run. What hull # is she? Also, the tiller must be a custom job, correct?

Looks sweet.
[/quote]
HHN... looking as pics from DownUnder.... many of the deck layouts are the 'modern' style. It seems that many of the later hulls went there and not to the US market

Still a sweet looking boat, even if it's not the classic design that we see so much of around here.
[/quote]
I want to say that I believe that about 15 boats were built with the bathtub cockpit. I looked at one in Seattle in 1999 before I bought mine. I believe that it was built in 1991. Definatly differant feel to the cockpit, shallower, wider and longer. And the interior seemed differant. Most of the wood was gone and everything was white(except for the cushions). Definatly bright. I would have bought it except I did not have the $$$$'s in the budget!
[/quote]

Seems like the cockpit came from around the time they were doing the 33?

Sailed one from Clearwater to Key West one time and always thought the boat was a 35 with 2' cut-off. Several years later when I got on a 35 I wondered what was so different. A 33 came to our club and I was able to do the direct comparison. The tiller was around my knees on the 33 and a little higher on the 35. I had used my legs to keep from over-steering the 33 downwind with the waves. Worked good except the owner, who sat in the companionway for quite a bit, did not like it when we were by-the-lee when riding a wave down for some vmg. Had a bulkhead mounted wind indicator and he would tap it and tell me to get back on course.

Guess he never sailed a Sunfish................................. ;)
[/quote]
Might have been developed about the same time as the J33, but it is differant. The bathtub on the J35 seems a lot larger in comparison. There is no bridge deck and there are low coamings(which could take away some of the thrill of water washing into the cockpit) and it seemed like it was quite shallow. The one I looked at in 1999 is still in the area and next week I will be at the marina where it moors. I can take a look again.

I actually really like the 33. Have not sailed on one, but they seem nearly as fast as the 35(sometimes faster). I looked at one in Vancouver BC just before I bought the 35 (ooops, I'm sure). It was not in very good condition, but could be bought for not much.
[/quote]

They are close enough in speed to be irritating :P

The 35 has an edge in big breeze upwind, but the 33 is close or better in other conditions. Hard to shake one with only a 3 sec rating differential.................................
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3 seconds? I wish. In PHRF NW a stock J35 owes a stock J33, 21 secs/mile. And yes, upwind in a good breeze, usually no problem. But reaching or running, they are pretty equal or the J33 slightly faster. One well sailed J33 in our area started in a class 5 min behind us and passed my entire class of J35s, Schock 35's and Express 37's in ten miles of spinaker reaching. Should have bought one of those boats!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 07:40 AM

thanks for the questions. well,,,,under IRC which is what we race here, she is rated at 1.029. i no longer carry class size sails. the P and E have been maximized so my main is about 5% bigger than class. my LP is about 145% which means my upwind sail area is the same as class size but i carry the bigger main on reaches and runs. i carry a carbon pole almost a meter longer than class and my kites are around 103sqm which is 10% bigger than class.


i did this because i have always felt that upwind, we were very fast and can hold our own. it was downwind that we suffered, especially under 12kts of wind true. with this setup, we are having no problem hold her down in over 20kts true even with the bigger kites. the boat is rated to carry 4 kites which are a .5oz downwind symetric, .75 downwind symetric, .75oz VMG asymetric, and a 90sqm Flat asy.


the only other details needed was to equalize the shaping of the keel and rudder. while both were centered, the keel had almost an inch more shaping on the starboard side. so i CompuKeeled the keel and rudder and what a difference.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 11:24 AM

I know of four J35's in Ireland... Bengal, Mumbo, Joyrider, and Hey J.

Joyrider and Hey J are both Bashfords.

Mumbo is an American built with the bath tub cockpit, and Bengal arrived in Northern Ireland from Rhode Island in the early 90's.

Dont know any of the hull numbers.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:42 PM

I know of four J35's in Ireland... Bengal, Mumbo, Joyrider, and Hey J.

Joyrider and Hey J are both Bashfords.

Mumbo is an American built with the bath tub cockpit, and Bengal arrived in Northern Ireland from Rhode Island in the early 90's.

Dont know any of the hull numbers.

Cool... we are starting to hear from boats in the Pacific and now Northern Europe..... It's a testament to the great sailing qualities of the J/35 that it has spread so widely and is appreciated by so many. Too bad there are not more of them!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:47 PM

I know of four J35's in Ireland... Bengal, Mumbo, Joyrider, and Hey J.

Joyrider and Hey J are both Bashfords.

Mumbo is an American built with the bath tub cockpit, and Bengal arrived in Northern Ireland from Rhode Island in the early 90's.

Dont know any of the hull numbers.


Bengal Magic to give her her full name is lying in Carrickfergus N.Ireland and undergoing some refurbishment including a new rudder and a shallower cockpit. She was a very successful J35 for the last 15 years or so with many wins under her current owner and previous owner including cork weeks, scottish series etc. I sailed on her for about 6 years or so back in the late 90s and still remember the day we lost cork week on the final day final race back in 96 (it still hurts ahhhhh). At one time on belfast lough there was Bengal magic, Jackpot, Ninja, Jacana and jumpin Jack flash would come over from the Isle of man frequently. The year we took Jackpot to the scottish series 1995 i think there were 10 j35s in our class, needless to say the rest of the fleet didn't stand a chance that year.
Good times and even now I still think a well sailed j35 is very hard to beat under IRC

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 12:36 PM

I know of four J35's in Ireland... Bengal, Mumbo, Joyrider, and Hey J.

Joyrider and Hey J are both Bashfords.

Mumbo is an American built with the bath tub cockpit, and Bengal arrived in Northern Ireland from Rhode Island in the early 90's.

Dont know any of the hull numbers.


Bengal Magic to give her her full name is lying in Carrickfergus N.Ireland and undergoing some refurbishment including a new rudder and a shallower cockpit. She was a very successful J35 for the last 15 years or so with many wins under her current owner and previous owner including cork weeks, scottish series etc. I sailed on her for about 6 years or so back in the late 90s and still remember the day we lost cork week on the final day final race back in 96 (it still hurts ahhhhh). At one time on belfast lough there was Bengal magic, Jackpot, Ninja, Jacana and jumpin Jack flash would come over from the Isle of man frequently. The year we took Jackpot to the scottish series 1995 i think there were 10 j35s in our class, needless to say the rest of the fleet didn't stand a chance that year.
Good times and even now I still think a well sailed j35 is very hard to beat under IRC


Jackpot went to the south of England.

Where did Ninja and Jumpin Jack Flash end up?

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 01:54 PM

Here is a shot from just after the starting gun at the 2007 Port Huron to Mac race, I think we won that start! Perfect conditions and something to look forward to as I prepare to shovel the snow from the front porch in -5F windchill.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 05:34 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 05:46 AM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 05:30 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..

Hey Bump....

Those battle scars will buff out in most cases. If there is major structural damage, even that is usually repairable. When I look at the cost of a used J/35 and double it to take into account the re-fit, it's still a whole lot of boat for the dollars spent.

Another thought.... are there J/35s out there in the Del/Mar/Va area that are not taking part in the racing scene or the One Design scene. There are at least 3 here on the Great Lakes that are fast Cruisers or who just race double-handed and some PHRF. As a One Deisgn racer and supporter of that part of the class, I need to remind myself that there is still room for lots of fun and enjoyment of the J35 for the occasional racer or the cruiser. If there are.... how are they participating in the sport of sailing?

I have done some shorthanded sailing in TIME MACHINE and it's always a hoot. One night we got the boat balanced out and lashed the tiller. She stayed within 2 degrees of TWA for 6 hours! It was magical!

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 05:40 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..

Hey Bump....

Those battle scars will buff out in most cases. If there is major structural damage, even that is usually repairable. When I look at the cost of a used J/35 and double it to take into account the re-fit, it's still a whole lot of boat for the dollars spent.

Another thought.... are there J/35s out there in the Del/Mar/Va area that are not taking part in the racing scene or the One Design scene. There are at least 3 here on the Great Lakes that are fast Cruisers or who just race double-handed and some PHRF. As a One Deisgn racer and supporter of that part of the class, I need to remind myself that there is still room for lots of fun and enjoyment of the J35 for the occasional racer or the cruiser. If there are.... how are they participating in the sport of sailing?

I have done some shorthanded sailing in TIME MACHINE and it's always a hoot. One night we got the boat balanced out and lashed the tiller. She stayed within 2 degrees of TWA for 6 hours! It was magical!



I was trying to get my brother and another old crew from Obsession to buy her just for a fast day boat. I guess weddings and med school were more important than a boat...... :P

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 10:53 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..

Hey Bump....

Those battle scars will buff out in most cases. If there is major structural damage, even that is usually repairable. When I look at the cost of a used J/35 and double it to take into account the re-fit, it's still a whole lot of boat for the dollars spent.

Another thought.... are there J/35s out there in the Del/Mar/Va area that are not taking part in the racing scene or the One Design scene. There are at least 3 here on the Great Lakes that are fast Cruisers or who just race double-handed and some PHRF. As a One Deisgn racer and supporter of that part of the class, I need to remind myself that there is still room for lots of fun and enjoyment of the J35 for the occasional racer or the cruiser. If there are.... how are they participating in the sport of sailing?

I have done some shorthanded sailing in TIME MACHINE and it's always a hoot. One night we got the boat balanced out and lashed the tiller. She stayed within 2 degrees of TWA for 6 hours! It was magical!



I was trying to get my brother and another old crew from Obsession to buy her just for a fast day boat. I guess weddings and med school were more important than a boat...... :P


We have daysailed ours on a number of occasions. Main and a #2 or 3 depending on the breeze is all you need.

The previous owner added an ac unit, as the boat was 'retired' for a while and as he loved the boat and wanted to keep her, he tried to 'soften' it up so mother would approve. We even have a bimini and additional mainsheet track on the bridgedeck for this set-up (those bimini mounts get you every now and then, yooowww). An old dacron main had a slice cut out of the foot and slugs added to work with the bimini.

Eventually he did go with a more cruiser friendly model and sold the boat. Fortunately the ac is located low and near the keel, so it does not hurt the performance. It really is nice to kick-on dockside after coming-in from a race on a hot day (order of docking: lines, shore power, ac on) and wanting to bench race over a few cold ones before heading up to the clubhouse. Keeps the boat nice and dry too.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 11:36 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..

Hey Bump....

Those battle scars will buff out in most cases. If there is major structural damage, even that is usually repairable. When I look at the cost of a used J/35 and double it to take into account the re-fit, it's still a whole lot of boat for the dollars spent.

Another thought.... are there J/35s out there in the Del/Mar/Va area that are not taking part in the racing scene or the One Design scene. There are at least 3 here on the Great Lakes that are fast Cruisers or who just race double-handed and some PHRF. As a One Deisgn racer and supporter of that part of the class, I need to remind myself that there is still room for lots of fun and enjoyment of the J35 for the occasional racer or the cruiser. If there are.... how are they participating in the sport of sailing?

I have done some shorthanded sailing in TIME MACHINE and it's always a hoot. One night we got the boat balanced out and lashed the tiller. She stayed within 2 degrees of TWA for 6 hours! It was magical!



I was trying to get my brother and another old crew from Obsession to buy her just for a fast day boat. I guess weddings and med school were more important than a boat...... :P


We have daysailed ours on a number of occasions. Main and a #2 or 3 depending on the breeze is all you need.

The previous owner added an ac unit, as the boat was 'retired' for a while and as he loved the boat and wanted to keep her, he tried to 'soften' it up so mother would approve. We even have a bimini and additional mainsheet track on the bridgedeck for this set-up (those bimini mounts get you every now and then, yooowww). An old dacron main had a slice cut out of the foot and slugs added to work with the bimini.

Eventually he did go with a more cruiser friendly model and sold the boat. Fortunately the ac is located low and near the keel, so it does not hurt the performance. It really is nice to kick-on dockside after coming-in from a race on a hot day (order of docking: lines, shore power, ac on) and wanting to bench race over a few cold ones before heading up to the clubhouse. Keeps the boat nice and dry too.


Word. My brother and I use to short hand the 35 a ton. One time we had a several hour run under full main and .75AP at 10-12kn of boatspeed. Went through several cases of beer that way......

Word to the AC too! Raced on an Andrews38 in Annapolis that had AC. Def kept the boat dry.

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Posted 04 January 2010 - 12:58 AM

[quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647732' date='Jan 3 2010, 06:36 PM'][quote name='HHN92' post='2647666' date='Jan 3 2010, 02:53 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647258' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:40 PM'][quote name='J35M8' post='2647243' date='Jan 3 2010, 09:30 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:46 AM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]
Hey Bump....

Those battle scars will buff out in most cases. If there is major structural damage, even that is usually repairable. When I look at the cost of a used J/35 and double it to take into account the re-fit, it's still a whole lot of boat for the dollars spent.

Another thought.... are there J/35s out there in the Del/Mar/Va area that are not taking part in the racing scene or the One Design scene. There are at least 3 here on the Great Lakes that are fast Cruisers or who just race double-handed and some PHRF. As a One Deisgn racer and supporter of that part of the class, I need to remind myself that there is still room for lots of fun and enjoyment of the J35 for the occasional racer or the cruiser. If there are.... how are they participating in the sport of sailing?

I have done some shorthanded sailing in TIME MACHINE and it's always a hoot. One night we got the boat balanced out and lashed the tiller. She stayed within 2 degrees of TWA for 6 hours! It was magical!
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I was trying to get my brother and another old crew from Obsession to buy her just for a fast day boat. I guess weddings and med school were more important than a boat...... :P
[/quote]

We have daysailed ours on a number of occasions. Main and a #2 or 3 depending on the breeze is all you need.

The previous owner added an ac unit, as the boat was 'retired' for a while and as he loved the boat and wanted to keep her, he tried to 'soften' it up so mother would approve. We even have a bimini and additional mainsheet track on the bridgedeck for this set-up (those bimini mounts get you every now and then, yooowww). An old dacron main had a slice cut out of the foot and slugs added to work with the bimini.

Eventually he did go with a more cruiser friendly model and sold the boat. Fortunately the ac is located low and near the keel, so it does not hurt the performance. It really is nice to kick-on dockside after coming-in from a race on a hot day (order of docking: lines, shore power, ac on) and wanting to bench race over a few cold ones before heading up to the clubhouse. Keeps the boat nice and dry too.
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Word. My brother and I use to short hand the 35 a ton. One time we had a several hour run under full main and .75AP at 10-12kn of boatspeed. Went through several cases of beer that way......

Word to the AC too! Raced on an Andrews38 in Annapolis that had AC. Def kept the boat dry.
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Double-handed on the way back from KW to TB in 2006. First night the wind was in the 25-30 range, just off the nose, and had the 'cruising' main and an ugly 1980's #3 up. Boat handled well. Our mantra was 'the further we get up the coast, the better things will get.......'

Weather got its last shot at us with a knock-down gust right at the entrance to the basin, in full sight of all those at the DIYC bar, just as we decided to drop the #3. It had been an upwind slog all the way home, with the average in the 20 knot range.

On the good side, we did get some 11.5-13.5 knt. rides in the relatively flat water and beamier wind angle at that time off Sarasota's 'Big Pass'.

Good dinner at Venice YC too.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 09:11 PM

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 02:11 AM

Hull 214 out for a solo session in retro North trim ...motoring north after the double-handed mac
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Posted 06 January 2010 - 04:38 AM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.


He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:59 AM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.


He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.



Honestly the uphill sails that came with it aren't too bad...... There should be at least on or maybe two kites that only have a few seasons too. I'm really glad she went to a good home! Any chance you could hook me up with any of those pics? I'd love to see the work!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.


He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.



Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 05:59 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.


He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.



Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!



Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:05 PM

This is the Warrior I was refering to.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:59 PM

Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!


Thanks for the update on the pedigree. You packing on the lbs in prep for Heineken?

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 07:01 PM

Honestly the uphill sails that came with it aren't too bad...... There should be at least on or maybe two kites that only have a few seasons too. I'm really glad she went to a good home! Any chance you could hook me up with any of those pics? I'd love to see the work!


John, I'll be talking to Ken this evening. I'll ask him if I can send you the link to the pics.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 07:06 PM

Honestly the uphill sails that came with it aren't too bad...... There should be at least on or maybe two kites that only have a few seasons too. I'm really glad she went to a good home! Any chance you could hook me up with any of those pics? I'd love to see the work!


John, I'll be talking to Ken this evening. I'll ask him if I can send you the link to the pics.



Cool. Thanks dude. No prob if not. Just wanna see how the ol girl's doing.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 08:54 PM

Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.


The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..


Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.


He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.



Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1988 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!



fixed it--wrong decade!! 1988!!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 08:55 PM

Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!


Thanks for the update on the pedigree. You packing on the lbs in prep for Heineken?



I'm tryin'--with the broken leg it is harder to get to the refrigerator!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 08:57 PM

[quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]


absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 11:27 PM

newcavbow.jpg I found and purchased hull #131 (1984) at a local yard in December 2004 as "Ventajero". After an extensive retrofit, and converting it into a single-handed fast family cruiser, it went in the water in june 2006 as "Cavallino". This is my first post in any sailing forum, although SA has been my home page for some years now. Great to have a J Forum here! Happy 2010, everyone.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 11:36 PM

In view of the sentiment expressed in some recent threads, I'll forego the usual newbie greeting and say welcome to SA.(If you stick around you'll understand)
Nice looking boat btw.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 11:47 PM

Ha! Know what you mean. Feeling like a pussy with that warm, unexpected welcome. Thx anyway!

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 12:09 AM

Ha! Know what you mean. Feeling like a pussy with that warm, unexpected welcome. Thx anyway!



well then at least show us a set of boobies............... ;)

welcome. Where were you when I needed a sail badly last December when I was in PR??? I had to spend the week laying on the beach drinking rum.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 12:11 AM

newcavbow.jpg I found and purchased hull #131 (1984) at a local yard in December 2004 as "Ventajero". After an extensive retrofit, and converting it into a single-handed fast family cruiser, it went in the water in june 2006 as "Cavallino". This is my first post in any sailing forum, although SA has been my home page for some years now. Great to have a J Forum here! Happy 2010, everyone.

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Well, to make you feel more welcome.................F.O. Newb!

Glad to have your post. I see you went with a deck-mounted sprit. How does that work for you?

Keep in touch.........................

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 12:43 AM

newcavbow.jpg I found and purchased hull #131 (1984) at a local yard in December 2004 as "Ventajero". After an extensive retrofit, and converting it into a single-handed fast family cruiser, it went in the water in june 2006 as "Cavallino". This is my first post in any sailing forum, although SA has been my home page for some years now. Great to have a J Forum here! Happy 2010, everyone.

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Well, to make you feel more welcome.................F.O. Newb!

Glad to have your post. I see you went with a deck-mounted sprit. How does that work for you?

Keep in touch.........................

I just had it installed. Worked beautifully. I can extend 3' from bow. With North assymetric spi (they call them Gennakers, but I believe they're not), I can go as deep as 165deg. This week, it was blowing 12-15kts and we were doing 8-9kts on a broad reach with small waves. Upwind, everything's fine up to 60 deg with 8kts tws. With higher winds, just gets too hot, at least singlehanded with 2 kids on board and wife. Here's another one.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 07:44 AM

[quote name='pitman260' post='2653519' date='Jan 6 2010, 12:57 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]


absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!
[/quote]


Doc was one of the best guys I ever sailed for! I've got some great stories bout him, sailing, partying, and general obgyn humor. ;) He is sorely missed by many.

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 02:07 PM

[quote name='jrpytlak' post='2654310' date='Jan 7 2010, 08:44 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2653519' date='Jan 6 2010, 12:57 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]


absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!
[/quote]


Doc was one of the best guys I ever sailed for! I've got some great stories bout him, sailing, partying, and general obgyn humor. ;) He is sorely missed by many.
[/quote]


whatever happened to that Mohawk kid who sailed with him--he was a riot?

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:26 PM

[quote name='dumbo' post='2654505' date='Jan 7 2010, 06:07 AM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2654310' date='Jan 7 2010, 08:44 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2653519' date='Jan 6 2010, 12:57 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]


absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!
[/quote]


Doc was one of the best guys I ever sailed for! I've got some great stories bout him, sailing, partying, and general obgyn humor. ;) He is sorely missed by many.
[/quote]


whatever happened to that Mohawk kid who sailed with him--he was a riot?
[/quote]


Phil or Marc?

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Posted 07 January 2010 - 04:54 PM

I think it was Phil--neat guy

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:35 AM

[quote name='pitman260' post='2653519' date='Jan 6 2010, 03:57 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]



absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!
[/quote]

North Americans, Chicago 1986 Mohawk Warrior holed by Aftershock. Large hole! Motors in places large "sticky back" patch over hole and is back out on the water for the next race! My first season with my J/35 so I was a wide eyed observer as the nearly 30 boat fleet went at it hot and heavy in heavy air. North still uses videos from that regatta on their North U CD's

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 06:07 AM

I think it was Phil--neat guy



Phil's living in Fargo right now. Shit you not, I just saw him post on his Facebook that the daytime high is neg ten tomorrow.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:07 PM

I think it was Phil--neat guy



Phil's living in Fargo right now. Shit you not, I just saw him post on his Facebook that the daytime high is neg ten tomorrow.



Geeeezus! What's wrong with him? I can't think of any place I'd rather NOT be! That's as far from sailing as you can get. Maybe he is still suffering from PTSD as a result of sailing in the J/35 class all those years ago. I remember getting him pretty banged up at Larchmont Y.C. during the N/As in 1993 (American Y.C. I think)--we drink "Montesano Coolers" until we stared to notice organic brain damage.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:48 PM

So it's not just the boats that are showing BATTLE SCARS, but our brains and livers too.....


Party on!

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:52 AM

[quote name='lartaunt' post='2656094' date='Jan 7 2010, 09:35 PM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2653519' date='Jan 6 2010, 03:57 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2653030' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:59 AM'][quote name='pitman260' post='2652960' date='Jan 6 2010, 09:33 AM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2652103' date='Jan 5 2010, 08:38 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2647247' date='Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM'][quote name='Bump-n-Grind' post='2646839' date='Jan 2 2010, 09:46 PM'][quote name='jrpytlak' post='2645991' date='Jan 2 2010, 12:34 PM']Obsession was one of the old boats. Around 83 or 84. I sailed for the original owner that had it till last year, when it was sold to the Ches Bay. A friend of mine sent me a pic of it sitting at Mullers in Nappy a few weeks ago. Any of you Ches Bay guys know what's going on with it? She was a ridden hard old girl for sure. I'd think she'd need a ton of work to get her a fighting chance in OD stuff.[/quote]

The guy that owned the C&C99 Bzing bought her and is doing a pretty major refit.. or so I've been told..
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any 35's that weren't rode hard for a few years. They all show battle scars by now..
[/quote]

Well, I replaced some of the main sheet hardware almost 10 years ago now and when I pulled the old stuff out lots o punky ply came out with it. You'll find giant backing plates under the secondary winches too. Kind of bandaids on cancer. I loved the old girl though! When I herd she got sold to Nappy, I texted some old crew mates from her about it. I got several replies saying that the new owner would be surprized to hear how many chicks were banged on her. :lol: Kind of a floating bordello in her day. I've seen the cockpit completely filled Labatt Blues/Miller High Lifes, Mout Gay bottles, or completely filled with empties. Only to have a very hung over crew kick a chick off the boat and clean it up lickity fuckin tick before the owner shows up. She provided very amaving times for almost 25 years on Lake Champlain.
[/quote]

He sent me some pics of the refit.. he's yanked out the whole interior and is starting over. pulled out about 200 lbs of soggy core so far. a lot of it out of the transom.. he's got muller doing the heavy stuff and some of it himself. should turn out to be a pretty sound boat. I'll probably give him a couple old sails to get started with.
[/quote]


Bump--your J/35 started life as Kaleidoscope -before it was Split-Decision. Kerry Klingler (UK/Halsey) and his dad raced her out of City Island. We raced against her on Runaway, which is still on the hard at Consolidated Yachts in City Island. I wanted to buy Runaway for years and get the Hustler crew back on the J/35--but the owner is still cruising her occaisionally with his kids and is content to let her rot away--such a shame. the 1998 BIRW was awsome--28 boats on the starting line--it was the 1 design place to be!
[/quote]


Pit, you ever race against Mohawk Warrior? Owned by Doc Gorman? Blue boat....
[/quote]



absolutely--great bunch of guys--one of the crew was an actual member of the Mohawk Nation--they sailed the boat down the Hudson from Lake Champlain --and showed up on LIS---good sailors--even better partiers!!
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North Americans, Chicago 1986 Mohawk Warrior holed by Aftershock. Large hole! Motors in places large "sticky back" patch over hole and is back out on the water for the next race! My first season with my J/35 so I was a wide eyed observer as the nearly 30 boat fleet went at it hot and heavy in heavy air. North still uses videos from that regatta on their North U CD's
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Wasn't that '96, not '86? Making us seem really old: )

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:23 PM

Haven't raced on a J/35 in quite a while, but here's a leeward mark rounding at the 1995 Youngstown Levels Regatta.

41322 is Whitehawk, which races out of Grand River, OH.

Not sure of the other 2.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:26 PM

Haven't raced on a J/35 in quite a while, but here's a leeward mark rounding at the 1995 Youngstown Levels Regatta.

41322 is Whitehawk, which races out of Grand River, OH.

Not sure of the other 2.

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Do you know if WHITEHAWK is still around on Lake Erie?

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 05:48 PM

Haven't raced on a J/35 in quite a while, but here's a leeward mark rounding at the 1995 Youngstown Levels Regatta.

41322 is Whitehawk, which races out of Grand River, OH.

Not sure of the other 2.

1995_Youngstown_Levels_Regatta.jpg

Do you know if WHITEHAWK is still around on Lake Erie?


Yep, still races out of Grand River, OH. I think there's another 35 there called Shearwater.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:23 AM

North Americans, Chicago 1986 Mohawk Warrior holed by Aftershock. Large hole! Motors in places large "sticky back" patch over hole and is back out on the water for the next race! My first season with my J/35 so I was a wide eyed observer as the nearly 30 boat fleet went at it hot and heavy in heavy air. North still uses videos from that regatta on their North U CD's
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Wasn't that '96, not '86? Making us seem really old: )
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Ummmm... Okay 1996!

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:44 AM

How do J35's go for cruising. I know they are a racing design but with the addition of a table and a few lightweight mod cons are they a capable fast cruiser that occasionlly can still be a race winner. Are they too tender? too lightweight?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 02:02 AM

How do J35's go for cruising. I know they are a racing design but with the addition of a table and a few lightweight mod cons are they a capable fast cruiser that occasionlly can still be a race winner. Are they too tender? too lightweight?



Ours has been cruised some, with a custom made table that is removed for racing. AC was added, along with a bimini set-up and mainsheet track installed on the bridge-deck. Just keep in mind that it will miss all that weight on the rail. With main and #3 it will sail just fine in 10-15. It will just not be a 'solid' ride compared to a full-tilt cruiser. All that interior and amenities make more of a difference than just convenience.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 08:50 PM

Funny to see someone asking about cruising a J35. We're wondering about the same thing. Looking for a dual purpose boat for Maine and coastal racing. How are these boats holding up structurally? I know that its totally dependent on how the boat was treated but assuming a dry boat that's never been wet, is there any reason for concern about durability?

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 09:55 PM

Funny to see someone asking about cruising a J35. We're wondering about the same thing. Looking for a dual purpose boat for Maine and coastal racing. How are these boats holding up structurally? I know that its totally dependent on how the boat was treated but assuming a dry boat that's never been wet, is there any reason for concern about durability?

I have cruised mine a lot(when I am not racing). They are fast enough that I rarely us anything but the delivery main(with slugs) and a #3 jib. Storage is not real wonderful, but I am able to use one qberth for big stuff like the inflatable boat and sails. I do not have pressure or hot water, but I have never had it on any of my boats and don't miss it now. I do miss not having counter space around the stove. My dad built me a sink cover and I have seen removable "side table" installed on the bulkeads between the stove and settee berth.

Mine is a 1985 (#117) and seems to be holding up well.




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