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#1 barleymalt

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 05:39 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:02 PM

1. J22 - It is Johnstone's only OD boat that has the perfect designed sail plan compared to other of his OD boats with 100% jibs, i.e. it can sail in the light with out your hair hurting and it can sail in breeze.

2. J35 - Best all around performer he has designed. Old boats are still very competative.

3. J29 - A scaled down version of the 35 in a lot of respects. It is a consistant performer in PHRF in any region with the one drawback of the Johnstone marketing clusterfark of offering four options for a given hull.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:11 PM

Good on ya Barleymalt - I was thinking of starting this same thread !

1) J-27 - as close to a ULDB as the old-school Js got - just plain fun & the right size for me. Still fun & good values used.
2) J-90 - as tech as they could, and again a size I can wrap my head around
3) J-125 - freakin' awesome boats. Too bad they were so far ahead of thier market.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:20 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.


That's easy, the market has already made this decision for you. The best J is the one that has sold the most boats.

Which one was that?

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:27 PM

The J105 because it planes.

I couldn't help myself

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:35 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.


That's easy, the market has already made this decision for you. The best J is the one that has sold the most boats.

Which one was that?


Ford sold a lot of Pintos too, but it doesn't mean that it was a great car. Unless you liked pyrotechnics and the occasional carbeque.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:43 PM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 08:29 PM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:07 PM

J/90 & J/125 = top two places; for being way ahead of their time production boats.
J/27 & J/33 = next two places; for having such good hull forms at the time they were introduced.
J/105 = fifth place; for being the first successful O.D. sprit boat in the U.S.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:20 PM

J/90 & J/125 = top two places; for being way ahead of their time production boats.
J/27 & J/33 = next two places; for having such good hull forms at the time they were introduced.
J/105 = fifth place; for being the first successful O.D. sprit boat in the U.S.

Just curious, where does the "4ktsb J-30" fall on your list?

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:26 PM

J24 without a doubt, It was the boat that revitalized sailing in our generation and brought sailing from the very rich to the masses. Still strong fleets after what 40 years? No keel boat can claim that.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:32 PM

J/90 & J/125 = top two places; for being way ahead of their time production boats.
J/27 & J/33 = next two places; for having such good hull forms at the time they were introduced.
J/105 = fifth place; for being the first successful O.D. sprit boat in the U.S.

Just curious, where does the "4ktsb J-30" fall on your list?

Way back ~1979 when I sailed one of the early J-30s named TRIUMVIRATE, it would have ranked high; now, definitely below J-29.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:43 PM

The best boat of any brand is the one you can afford to buy and have fun sailing...

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 09:51 PM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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harsh - and really in the spirit!
good on ya~!


i love how the people are still holding on... hoping and praying that they go down with the ship so that they can die and not have to sail a j/24 anymore...

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 10:00 PM

It's a tie between Velsheda and Ranger.

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 10:08 PM

My votes got to the J/33 and the J/27. 33 is just plain sweet and easy to short hand. The J/27 was so much fun during the 7 years I owned one. Went up hill very well at the top end of the genoa.

I currently own a J/22, which is great for other reasons, mostly the class association/

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Posted 22 December 2009 - 11:11 PM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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harsh - and really in the spirit!
good on ya~!


i love how the people are still holding on... hoping and praying that they go down with the ship so that they can die and not have to sail a j/24 anymore...

I think you're misinterpreting what's going on there. They're not holding on to go down with the ship. They're putting all their weight in to shoving that pain box under water as rapidly as possible!

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:08 AM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:51 AM

My votes got to the J/33 and the J/27. 33 is just plain sweet and easy to short hand. The J/27 was so much fun during the 7 years I owned one. Went up hill very well at the top end of the genoa.

I currently own a J/22, which is great for other reasons, mostly the class association/



For the helm, according to what I understand. For the rest of the crew...................nicks, cuts, and bruises.

Crewed one one time, we won the race, but came home with a couple of nicks.....................................

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 12:42 PM

J/22 because I can afford one and they are great family boats as well as race boats, sail well to handicap if you have to race phrf and great one design fleets
J/27 way ahead of its time, great boat in everything but about 8 knots, light air and heavy air demon, fun and fast
J/33 a cool boat that sails well and you don't need 8-10 peeps like a 35
J/24 come on a slow heavy boat with high loads but it started it all and there are fleets everywhere man
J/35 still sexy after all these years

you can probably tell I am not a sprit boat guy, don't care for them

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:27 PM

J24 without a doubt, It was the boat that revitalized sailing in our generation and brought sailing from the very rich to the masses. Still strong fleets after what 40 years? No keel boat can claim that.


30 years.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 02:58 PM

J109 is a sweet ride.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 03:46 PM

J125 - Because I want one.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 03:49 PM

Agree with AKAGP

1st J125 - The FARR 40's racing program and ability to compete and win IMS doomed the J125. Otherwise we would have seen tons of J125's.

2nd J90

3rd J145

4th J27 These were really nice when they came out

5th 42 owners just love this boat

6th J32 - residual value king



I would love to see the proposals that were never built.

J30 - In 1979 they showed up and surprised everyone. Keep in mind that here was a cruising boat that you could race. The complaints were not about the sailing but the cockpit and galley. Good example of bad market research. The boat needed an L galley and sunken (normal) cockpit in 1979 NOT years later. I remember so many comments that it was a great boat but buyers were turned off by the the lack of a conventional cockpit. The galley was a huge issue.

So many buyers in boats like the Pearson 30 that were not going to give up what they liked about their current ride for the J30.

J sold a lot of the 30's but I think they could have sold many more if the boat started out right.

They were less expensive than the closest competition and faster.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:24 PM

This is the J that I think is the best, then again she's my boat, and my wife is helming...what more could a guy ask for?

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GO THE WENDY!

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:22 PM

..what more could a guy ask for?



masthead kite, chainplates in farther to allow bigger headsail to be sheeted in (OD jib is a JOKE in anything under 7kts.). Better light air performance. 1000lbs. lighter, forward hatch that doesn't break every other year, 3 more inches of headroom below.

(I sail a 105 also) but it's not the "best" J Boat ever

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:24 PM

Agree with AKAGP first mistake

1st J125 - The FARR 40's racing program and ability to compete and win IMS doomed the J125. Otherwise we would have seen tons of J125's. agree

2nd J90 there were way better 30' when this came out

3rd J145 WTF?

4th J27 These were really nice when they came out ok

5th 42 owners just love this boat big vanilla

6th J32 - residual value king small vanilla



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Posted 23 December 2009 - 05:28 PM

..what more could a guy ask for?



masthead kite, chainplates in farther to allow bigger headsail to be sheeted in (OD jib is a JOKE in anything under 7kts.). Better light air performance. 1000lbs. lighter, forward hatch that doesn't break every other year, 3 more inches of headroom below.

(I sail a 105 also) but it's not the "best" J Boat ever


I'll agree it may not be the best boat of any brand ever...most aren't, but it is the best boat I've ever owned, and probably will ever own, so in my book, it is the best of the best...

Then again, that's just my opinion.



Oh yea and I'll take that damn hatch not breaking version...damn I hate that.




GO THE WENDY!

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:02 PM

..what more could a guy ask for?



masthead kite, chainplates in farther to allow bigger headsail to be sheeted in (OD jib is a JOKE in anything under 7kts.). Better light air performance. 1000lbs. lighter, forward hatch that doesn't break every other year, 3 more inches of headroom below.

(I sail a 105 also) but it's not the "best" J Boat ever


THE BEST J-boat is easy to pick... it's the one you get to sail but somebody else paid for!

I like the J-105 myself but would never ever buy one, for their performance level they should be MUCH more comfortable (or vice versa). Still, they're good sailing boats and the class is good for racing.

The J-29 is a good boat too, especially now that the price has come down. It's the only one I would buy with my own money, was looking for a frac-rigged inboard (personal taste) until I decided a boat on a trailer made a LOT more sense.

FB- Doug

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:16 PM

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That may well be the post of the year. I loved racing J24s, but that is still just too funny, thanks.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:13 PM

#1 J105 because its cool OD
#2 J125 because its super cool
#3 J97 because its shit hot irc boat
#4 J109 strong class OD in the UK
#5 J145 because its pretty cool

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:44 PM

This is the J that I think is the best, then again she's my boat, and my wife is helming...what more could a guy ask for?

Puff_with_Snoopy_Spinnaker.jpg

GO THE WENDY!


Is that kite repaired? Got to be a good story behind that. ;)

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:48 PM

J24 without a doubt, It was the boat that revitalized sailing in our generation and brought sailing from the very rich to the masses. Still strong fleets after what 40 years? No keel boat can claim that.


30 years.


yep my bad, but you can't knock that it is did change sailing for the better.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 09:42 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.

J165

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 10:13 PM

#1 J105 because its cool OD
#2 J125 because its super cool
#3 J97 because its shit hot irc boat
#4 J109 strong class OD in the UK
#5 J145 because its pretty cool

#1 Agreed
#2 Agreed
#3 False, 122 has been winning everything under IRC. Case in point: Pen Azen.
#4 Agreed
#5 False, pretty cool!? The J/90 is pretty cool, the J/145 is nothing special in comparison.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 11:07 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.

J165



That a new one on me.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:22 AM

J/22 because I can afford one and they are great family boats as well as race boats, sail well to handicap if you have to race phrf and great one design fleets
J/27 way ahead of its time, great boat in everything but about 8 knots, light air and heavy air demon, fun and fast
J/33 a cool boat that sails well and you don't need 8-10 peeps like a 35
J/24 come on a slow heavy boat with high loads but it started it all and there are fleets everywhere man
J/35 still sexy after all these years

you can probably tell I am not a sprit boat guy, don't care for them


In NorCal they give the Santa Cruz 27 6sec/mile. Hmmmmmm.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:01 AM

From a design stand point it has to be the J125, just a weapon. The J90 however was not the best 30 sportboat when it arrived, that honor would have to go to the Henderson 30.

Both the J29 MHOB and the J27 are both still weapons in PHRF and are wonderfull sailing boats.

1.J125
2. tie J29 / J27
3. J105 can't deny the size of the class

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:21 AM

#5 False, pretty cool!? The J/90 is pretty cool, the J/145 is nothing special in comparison.



I had a hard on the first time I saw Sweet Loraine.

Although I don't look at the J145 as a super special boat, it's the type of boat you can sail down to the Caribbean, live on a for a few weeks and then do the Caribbean racing circuit AND have a chance to win. Plus, 48 ft. has been my target size for a boat before I kick the bucket.

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.

J165



That a new one on me.



either it's the J160 or the J65



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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:46 PM

Not one mention for the j44? OD Class to Bermuda - enough said.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:56 PM

The guys with the money have already voted on this.

Best Off Shore One Design - J105 by a country mile.

Best In Shore One Design - J22 by a city mile.

Best racing boat company because the boats hold up with minimum maintenance - J Boats.
:P

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:59 PM

All right Jtards, time for some religious wars. Which is the best boat J Boats ever produced, and why?.

J165



That a new one on me.

my bad - J65

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:10 PM

J160

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 04:54 PM

J24.

There would be no others without it.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:06 PM

#1 J105 because its cool OD
#2 J125 because its super cool
#3 J97 because its shit hot irc boat
#4 J109 strong class OD in the UK
#5 J145 because its pretty cool

#1 Agreed
#2 Agreed
#3 False, 122 has been winning everything under IRC. Case in point: Pen Azen.
#4 Agreed
#5 False, pretty cool!? The J/90 is pretty cool, the J/145 is nothing special in comparison.


J 97: 23rd of 800 boats in RTIR, black group overall at cowes week, 2nd WOKC (womens open keelboat championship), 1st Jcup, 1st Dartmouth regatta, 1st in a club regatta with a crew put together over the phone the night before (it was only a test sail!) all in 6 months

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:50 PM

#1 J105 because its cool OD
#2 J125 because its super cool
#3 J97 because its shit hot irc boat
#4 J109 strong class OD in the UK
#5 J145 because its pretty cool

#1 Agreed
#2 Agreed
#3 False, 122 has been winning everything under IRC. Case in point: Pen Azen.
#4 Agreed
#5 False, pretty cool!? The J/90 is pretty cool, the J/145 is nothing special in comparison.


J 97: 23rd of 800 boats in RTIR, black group overall at cowes week, 2nd WOKC (womens open keelboat championship), 1st Jcup, 1st Dartmouth regatta, 1st in a club regatta with a crew put together over the phone the night before (it was only a test sail!) all in 6 months



and when the J97 is around in 10-15 years and still has legs, maybe then we can make the the BEST J Boat ever

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 11:42 PM

any one thats underwater!!

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 05:19 PM

J125 - Because I want one.


I agree with J/90 (owned one for 4 years) and J/125 because Rod designed and built boats just the way he liked them back then with little regard for commercial acceptance. Still a purist, the market will beat that out of you. The J/145 is in this line up with its similar carbon built but it doesn't have the mad planing ride of the 90 and 125.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 07:29 PM

The guys with the money have already voted on this.

Best Off Shore One Design - J105 by a country mile.

Best In Shore One Design - J22 by a city mile.

The post title is "Best" not greatest number sold. Are you saying that the Toyota Camery and the Honda Accord are the "Best" cars because they sell the most units?

And J/105 "offshore? It's mostly raced around the cans, barely any every enter offshore races around here at least.

J/90 and J/125 without a doubt.

Still snowbound Ragbag?

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 02:06 AM

The guys with the money have already voted on this.

Best Off Shore One Design - J105 by a country mile.

Best In Shore One Design - J22 by a city mile.

The post title is "Best" not greatest number sold. Are you saying that the Toyota Camery and the Honda Accord are the "Best" cars because they sell the most units?

And J/105 "offshore? It's mostly raced around the cans, barely any every enter offshore races around here at least.

J/90 and J/125 without a doubt.

Still snowbound Ragbag?


Lotsa turns ;-)

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 06:04 AM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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Bingo - total loss but they saved the brand new and WS faired rudder....

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 07:27 PM

The guys with the money have already voted on this.

Best Off Shore One Design - J105 by a country mile.

Best In Shore One Design - J22 by a city mile.

Best racing boat company because the boats hold up with minimum maintenance - J Boats.
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Never sailed a 44, huh? LeeG got it right.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 11:57 PM

How about the J 80. Great day sailor, very large international one design numbers, easy to sail, easy to maintain, lots of fun in a small package.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:09 AM

the only good j/boat is a sunken jboat!

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best post i've seen on here in ages!!!

was about to put up along the line '"a sunken one" but already well covered!

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 02:06 AM

J 145 Hands down. The fastest boat J built. -24 PHRF

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 02:22 AM

Hey Stu, if I owned a J Boat, I would have to say that.....the model I own is the Best J Boat.................. :lol:

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 04:47 PM

For big breeze, a J120 and J44 are great.

120 has a big fun factor downwind and can carry the jumbo kite into 25+ easily and very deep. However, it can be a bit small inside for serious offshore racing. Also IRC rating sucks around the bouys but does well in distance.

J44s are built like tanks - great boats but cost $$$$$$$$$ to maintain well to race. However, they are a bit more comfy for crusing AND offshore have a bit more space down below for gear, sails, etc....

I have had a lot of fun sailing on both but there are definiately lighter, faster, more mondern better 'performing' boats out there

just my HO

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 06:07 PM

120 has a big fun factor downwind and can carry the jumbo kite into 25+ easily and very deep.

It's a pig. It's probably one of my least favorite boats downwind..... just pushes a huge hole in the water. Yeah, it can carry the large kite to the high-20s but it's slow. Big fun factor for me means planning in those kinds of wind and the boat 'unloads' at speed, not 'loads up' like the J/120.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:51 PM

It's a pig. It's probably one of my least favorite boats downwind..... just pushes a huge hole in the water. Yeah, it can carry the large kite to the high-20s but it's slow.


Yea, 15-18 knots is slow...........you must be a multihuller.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:40 AM

J/44 is still the best in my opinion... goes upwind awesome, goes downwind well for what it is, and looks great doing it.
The only boat I've ever seen even stay close to the 1D48 upwind

J/27 is a close second, fun for beer can races.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:58 AM

I love my J22 and the boat is affordable (allowing for it being a boat!) and easy to sail.

I agree the J27 was a boat ahead of its time. Too bad they couldn't make them affordable. I've raced five different ones and they were all fun!

Otherwise .... the J80 is fun. I've had some great times racing on the J29. And except for Lightnings I don't think a boat ever beat me up as badly as the J24!

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:22 PM

The guys with the money have already voted on this.

Best Off Shore One Design - J105 by a country mile.

Best In Shore One Design - J22 by a city mile.

The post title is "Best" not greatest number sold. Are you saying that the Toyota Camery and the Honda Accord are the "Best" cars because they sell the most units?

And J/105 "offshore? It's mostly raced around the cans, barely any every enter offshore races around here at least.

J/90 and J/125 without a doubt.

Still snowbound Ragbag?



Honda Accords and Camry's are the "best cars" in their market segment and intended purpose.

Boats/cars, ect sell well because of one or a combination of the following factors, and not necessarily in that order.

1. It's cheap
2. It's good
3. It's been marketed properly.

I think we all agree that J Boats are marketing genius' and I keep hearing that their boats only sell well because of their marketing. I disagree.

Don't you think the genius marketers at J Boats marketed the 90 and 125 as well as their other offerings. Of course they did. They just didn't sell. They were too specialized for what the majority of people want.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 06:37 PM

J/22 because I can afford one and they are great family boats as well as race boats, sail well to handicap if you have to race phrf and great one design fleets
J/27 way ahead of its time, great boat in everything but about 8 knots, light air and heavy air demon, fun and fast
J/33 a cool boat that sails well and you don't need 8-10 peeps like a 35
J/24 come on a slow heavy boat with high loads but it started it all and there are fleets everywhere man
J/35 still sexy after all these years

you can probably tell I am not a sprit boat guy, don't care for them


In NorCal they give the Santa Cruz 27 6sec/mile. Hmmmmmm.


that's not bad

We owe them 23 sec mile here in the PNW

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:49 PM

J/22 because I can afford one and they are great family boats as well as race boats, sail well to handicap if you have to race phrf and great one design fleets
J/27 way ahead of its time, great boat in everything but about 8 knots, light air and heavy air demon, fun and fast
J/33 a cool boat that sails well and you don't need 8-10 peeps like a 35
J/24 come on a slow heavy boat with high loads but it started it all and there are fleets everywhere man
J/35 still sexy after all these years

you can probably tell I am not a sprit boat guy, don't care for them


In NorCal they give the Santa Cruz 27 6sec/mile. Hmmmmmm.


that's not bad

We owe them 23 sec mile here in the PNW


Actually its 26 on base rating. Might not be quite that much faster, but WAY better looking than those SC's, better sailing, and much more comfortable.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 11:09 PM

It's a pig. It's probably one of my least favorite boats downwind..... just pushes a huge hole in the water. Yeah, it can carry the large kite to the high-20s but it's slow.


Yea, 15-18 knots is slow...........you must be a multihuller.





Me thinks this could get interesting!!



Hi my name is WD and I race on a J-120 (the first step is admitting you have a problem) The fleet here is fun and around the buoys with 7-8 boats OD is great BUT they are pigs and just dig in down wind in a blow.

I have been on boats with SS when 15-18 knts off the wind is thought to be a bit slow so you might want to back up a bit and do some research before you put your foot in your mouth!!

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 03:22 AM

No love for the J 34 or J 41? Beautiful shapes under the IOR. Never sailed one, they just looked "bitchin'".

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 01:19 PM

No love for the J 34 or J 41? Beautiful shapes under the IOR. Never sailed one, they just looked "bitchin'".

They were by far his best looking boats. The 34 was a complete failure in IOR but the 41 did have its day in the sun with Charlie Scott's Smiles winning SORC, I believe there were several of them competing that year.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 05:39 PM

I'm kinda partial to the J92 and 35's.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 10:39 PM

J 145 Hands down. The fastest boat J built. -24 PHRF


I Disagree My vote is for the J125. We beat Rain Cloud a J145 Boat for Boat all Big Boat series long in IRC B and it wasnt even a windy series. I think the 125 will take the 145 all day long in the ocean too. :) Upwind it was pretty even and downwind no Contest.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 03:46 PM

J 145 Hands down. The fastest boat J built. -24 PHRF


I Disagree My vote is for the J125. We beat Rain Cloud a J145 Boat for Boat all Big Boat series long in IRC B and it wasnt even a windy series. I think the 125 will take the 145 all day long in the ocean too. :) Upwind it was pretty even and downwind no Contest.

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The J/145 came out of the same design sequence as the 90 and 125 with lots of promise because of the smaller brethren but did not come close to having comparable ratios for its length which is somewhat surprising considering how aggresive the 90/125 were at the time on spec. Can they not build a boat this length with similar SA/DISPL as the 125? It is also very expensive boat because of its carbon built. Lots of these boats for sale that aren't moving, price points are way off.

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Posted 03 January 2010 - 05:15 PM

J33.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 07:30 PM

For the beat boat (not the best class, best racing, etc)

1) J27 - fun all around to sail with a few people or even just 2, can get out to nice anchorages, goes up and down wind well in all weather. Nice size to own and maintain.

I own a J22 for racing reasons but wish I had a 27 every time I go up wind in a short chop or want to spend a few days camping on the boat. I have sailed/raced on the 22, 24, 27, 35, 29, 30, 41, 40, 44 and likely a few others. I personally never liked the 29 so was surprised to see so many list it above.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 11:13 PM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:31 AM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...



For a cool 400 boat bucks this one can be yours!!

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:54 AM

J 145 Hands down. The fastest boat J built. -24 PHRF


I Disagree My vote is for the J125. We beat Rain Cloud a J145 Boat for Boat all Big Boat series long in IRC B and it wasnt even a windy series. I think the 125 will take the 145 all day long in the ocean too. :) Upwind it was pretty even and downwind no Contest.

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yeah, but look down below. The 125 has NOTHING, while the 145 can sail to ST. Marten (in major style) live on it for weeks on end AND still have a chance to win the Heineken Regatta .............

The 125 is a BAD ASS racing machine but the 145 has excellent speed as far as a cruiser/racers goes. They both have HUGH price tags.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 01:55 AM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...



For a cool 400 boat bucks this one can be yours!!


Interesting that the 125 gets such praise as JBoats though it was a flop........The molds are probally around somewhere............

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 02:30 PM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...



For a cool 400 boat bucks this one can be yours!!


Interesting that the 125 gets such praise as JBoats though it was a flop........The molds are probally around somewhere............


1)j145 hands down the best boat J has ever made

2) j125 the 2nd best boat j has made.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 04:40 PM

..what more could a guy ask for?



masthead kite, chainplates in farther to allow bigger headsail to be sheeted in (OD jib is a JOKE in anything under 7kts.). Better light air performance. 1000lbs. lighter, forward hatch that doesn't break every other year, 3 more inches of headroom below.

(I sail a 105 also) but it's not the "best" J Boat ever


Thanks for the laugh dacapo.... in the 9 years we had our 105 we never managed to break the forward hatch but all the other comments are gospel :)

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:31 AM

J/44 by far for the awesome class and one design to Bermuda in addition to the one design for the STC intercollegiate thanks to the generosity of the owners.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 04:43 PM

J/24: Almost a no brainer. As someone already mentioned, this boat revolutionized the sport of sailing, and all these years later is still popular.

J/35: The Evander Holyfield of sailing. Pound for pound (and by that I mean rating for rating) one of the toughest boats around. Where we sail, there's a J/35 that gives a professionally sailed Farr 39ML all the competition they could ever want all from a design that's decades old.

J/122: O.K. I'm biased. So what. I've never been a fan of what I consider to be the antiquated J/boat styling, but this boat is just damn sexy outside and surprisingly inside. And in case you missed it, the J/122 is the reining RORC IRC champ AND is currently thumping a couple of Swan 42s, two Summit 40s and a Mills 42 at Key West.

I expect to be adding the J/111 to this list. Again, I really like what they're doing with the styling (finally) to make these boats more contemporary.

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 07:35 PM

The first day I read her specs I knew this was the boat for me. With the shoal draft option I needed, fun to sail and easy to short or single hand.

The J/100 is my perfect boat:
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:44 AM

J/44 by far for the awesome class and one design to Bermuda in addition to the one design for the STC intercollegiate thanks to the generosity of the owners.

You are absolutely right and I can tell you that the owners get as much fun out of the Intercollegiate Regatta as the teams do.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:31 AM

this forum is going nowhere......it is quite simple

noone can deny what the 24 has done for OD but the 125 is the hottest jboat hands down B)

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 12:36 AM

After sailing against the J/125 at Key West I would have say that it is the J boat that I would rank as #1. But then again I prefer stripped out racers like that.

Not everyone's cup of tea but I like it best.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 03:16 AM

what's the best hot dog?

ball park angus beef franks?

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or ball park angus bun size beef franks?

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 10:41 PM

1st J 29 for me, just bought my second one.
2nd J 35 just a big J 29
3rd J 33 see above

Problem for me with the current boats (first off can't afford them) is the down below. For us when racing at a regatta we need to sleep on the boat or get a hotel. Now the cost of the weekend just went up. When looking at the sprit boats trying to sleep 5-6 on a J 92 or a J 105 looks pretty tough. We can do this on our J 29 there just a big pile of stuff left on the dock. Also I think for this survey it needs to be a boat one can afford.

Cliff J 29 MHOB

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 05:22 AM

what's the best hot dog?

ball park angus beef franks?

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or ball park angus bun size beef franks?

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Bun Size - as the skin to content ratio is higher, thereby providing more texture and 'crunch'.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:05 AM

It's a pig. It's probably one of my least favorite boats downwind..... just pushes a huge hole in the water. Yeah, it can carry the large kite to the high-20s but it's slow.


Yea, 15-18 knots is slow...........you must be a multihuller.





Me thinks this could get interesting!!



Hi my name is WD and I race on a J-120 (the first step is admitting you have a problem) The fleet here is fun and around the buoys with 7-8 boats OD is great BUT they are pigs and just dig in down wind in a blow.

I have been on boats with SS when 15-18 knts off the wind is thought to be a bit slow so you might want to back up a bit and do some research before you put your foot in your mouth!!


I have gone downwind at 22 knots in a J120 so I guess that is slow for heavy 40 footer.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 06:04 PM

I purchased a very well maintained and prepared J33 after finding it on SA just over a year ago. Since then I have enjoyed being able to single hand the boat, take my five year old son out fishing and generally having a blast being the smallest and slowest boat in my PHRF fleet and yet consistently coming in 2nd or 3rd in most races!

J33 is obviously my vote. Versatile, fast, comfortable, well mannered, affordable, fast (did I mention fast?) Last summer under code 5 main alone in a 30 Kt breeze the boat surged along downwind at 11kts. Yeeeeeee Haaaawww!

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 08:48 PM

1. J/125
2. Ranger
3. J/22

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 09:32 PM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...



For a cool 400 boat bucks this one can be yours!!


Interesting that the 125 gets such praise as JBoats though it was a flop........The molds are probally around somewhere............


..it was too expensive for some as a stripped out OOD, and not corporate entertaining enough, or creature comforts for others with the wedge for a carbon toilet seat n'everything.

Best they have done IMHO. upwind too, 9 knts out of 11.4 true!

Although the 109 is a bit dumpy looking it does the job , although a round-the-cans version with winches forward would be better...hence 111? ( oh, and the 109 was a european design: disney got better, like "101 dalmations" only after Walt let loose the reins) So the best non johnson J.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 11:47 PM

I've owned three J/Boats (and sailed on several other models) and loved all of them for different reasons. But the one I always coveted (and never will own) was the J/125...



For a cool 400 boat bucks this one can be yours!!


Interesting that the 125 gets such praise as JBoats though it was a flop........The molds are probally around somewhere............

how many J125's did J boats build?
What was the price new? (race ready, not ex factory?

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:08 AM

how many J125's did J boats build?
What was the price new? (race ready, not ex factory?


16 - Warrior (fka "Velox" and now for sale) was the last one made.
$400k ready to race (w/sails, instruments, "tax license & dealer prep").

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:29 PM

how many J125's did J boats build?
What was the price new? (race ready, not ex factory?


16 - Warrior (fka "Velox" and now for sale) was the last one made.
$400k ready to race (w/sails, instruments, "tax license & dealer prep").



raced on Velox while it was in tampa bay area.....absolutely fantastic boat

gotta love the 125 downhill with the big kite...so fast B)

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:02 PM

1. J/125
2. Ranger
3. J/22


+1 J/22

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:34 PM

what's the best hot dog?

ball park angus beef franks?

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or ball park angus bun size beef franks?

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They have to be bigger than the bun.

I'm a size queen.

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:15 PM

what's the best hot dog?

ball park angus beef franks?

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or ball park angus bun size beef franks?

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They have to be bigger than the bun.

I'm a size queen.

1. Catalina 30...
2. McGregor 26...
3. Velsheda.

Did I win....?

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 10:06 PM

the J-30 and J-37 best racer/cruiser ever built fast and comfortable




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