Maxi Yacht Speedboat
#101
Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:07 PM
#102
Posted 19 April 2010 - 10:35 PM
weird
a. That is a lot of fucking valtera valves.
b. The sheer beauty of that water transfer system makes mine look awfully agricultural.
c. I can just imagine the shit show that occurs when they need to tack the ballast. They must have to send 5 crew below.
#103
Posted 20 April 2010 - 09:34 PM
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#104
Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:41 AM
dont forget the water ballastthat is a strange looking keel
#105
Posted 21 April 2010 - 03:16 AM
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#106
Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:47 AM
Just looks to be the tack (floating?) separate from the forestay which is undoubtably adjustable and then some soft shackles. . . just quite large!Would love an understanding on the rigging bits as I've never seen anything quite like them on any other boat.
#107
Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:25 AM
Just looks to be the tack (floating?) separate from the forestay which is undoubtably adjustable and then some soft shackles. . . just quite large!
Would love an understanding on the rigging bits as I've never seen anything quite like them on any other boat.
they have 2 modes, they can rake the rig back to carry bigger sails for downwind. balances the boat better at higher speeds, like a windsurfer. It is superbad for the rating. so you move the rig forward for IRC. i think that the rig forward mode has not been very successful for them
#108
Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:56 PM
#109
Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:32 PM
That's actually for the floating jib tack - AIUI, you also find them on some VO70s (?). Attaching the jib tack to the A frame means that the tack is always in line with the ram = reduced friction/a fairer lead.The moveable rig answers the question about the triangular attachment aft of the forestay.
#110
Posted 21 April 2010 - 03:28 PM
Jib leech tension.That's actually for the floating jib tack - AIUI, you also find them on some VO70s (?). Attaching the jib tack to the A frame means that the tack is always in line with the ram = reduced friction/a fairer lead.The moveable rig answers the question about the triangular attachment aft of the forestay.
#111
Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:53 PM
That's actually for the floating jib tack - AIUI, you also find them on some VO70s (?). Attaching the jib tack to the A frame means that the tack is always in line with the ram = reduced friction/a fairer lead.The moveable rig answers the question about the triangular attachment aft of the forestay.
This is common on any boat that uses a halyard lock for the jib. The A-Frame is attached to a ram to control luff tension of the jib. It also appears that the forestay is attached to a ram as well.
#112
Posted 21 April 2010 - 05:57 PM
This is common on any boat that uses a halyard lock for the jib. The A-Frame is attached to a ram to control luff tension of the jib. It also appears that the forestay is attached to a ram as well.
Yep thats what I was thinking. . . pretty sweet set up for the Jib trimmer.
Pain in the ass if your in charge of keeping the hydraulics running. . . then again compared to this bitches other systems, the one ram used for the tack is probably the least trouble!
I dont fully understand why they would go changing the rig set up (fwd - back) to comply with IRC. . . seems to me she is almost a 2.000 anyways!
#113
Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:11 PM
This is common on any boat that uses a halyard lock for the jib. The A-Frame is attached to a ram to control luff tension of the jib. It also appears that the forestay is attached to a ram as well.
Yep thats what I was thinking. . . pretty sweet set up for the Jib trimmer.
Pain in the ass if your in charge of keeping the hydraulics running. . . then again compared to this bitches other systems, the one ram used for the tack is probably the least trouble!![]()
I dont fully understand why they would go changing the rig set up (fwd - back) to comply with IRC. . . seems to me she is almost a 2.000 anyways!
1.955! according to https://www.thedaily...-rating-of-1955 in 2008. Wonder what she'll be after mods.
#114
Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:28 PM
I dont fully understand why they would go changing the rig set up (fwd - back) to comply with IRC. . . seems to me she is almost a 2.000 anyways!
ITHM that for IRC they fix the forestay length - as you have to because a) it's measured, and b) it's not allowed to be adjusted.
#115
Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:41 PM
I dont fully understand why they would go changing the rig set up (fwd - back) to comply with IRC. . . seems to me she is almost a 2.000 anyways!
ITHM that for IRC they fix the forestay length - as you have to because a) it's measured, andit's not allowed to be adjusted.
Technically this year they can declare adjustable forestay/backstay. Under IRC. Not good for the rating. but since Newport - Bermuda is principally scored under ORR they are not allowed to adjust that while sailing. = fixed forestay.
Rail Meat:
Those valves flank the aft companionway when heading down to the nav station, which by the way, is pure sex, They are simply huge in diameter. The one thing that struck me the most about the boat was the forward stringers forward of the Main/keel bulkheads. They were aprox 4' tall and 10" wide spaced about 3' apart. I believe there was a platform between them, but I could not imagine falling off one while under way. The whole for-peak screamed broken leg to me.
-Nathan
#116
Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:38 PM
The whole for-peak screamed broken leg to me.
-Nathan
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the boat is an expensive leg breaking shitter
#117
Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:34 PM
I would love to know something about the running rigging. Loads have to be monsterous... what material / size are they using for sheet and for halyards. What do they use for lashing? What do they use for strops? And what do they use for shackles?
Will ask, and shoot video of all the bits and pieces. If anyone wants me to focus on anything else specific while aboard, post it here.
Clean,
Tell Dr Higgins (Higgy) his friends from Grand Haven and Musketucky say hello!
#118
Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:33 PM
#119
Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:54 PM
Rail Meat:
Those valves flank the aft companionway when heading down to the nav station, which by the way, is pure sex, They are simply huge in diameter. The one thing that struck me the most about the boat was the forward stringers forward of the Main/keel bulkheads. They were aprox 4' tall and 10" wide spaced about 3' apart. I believe there was a platform between them, but I could not imagine falling off one while under way. The whole for-peak screamed broken leg to me.
-Nathan
Did I read that right? The Forward stringers were 4 FEET tall?
#120
Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:58 PM
Rail Meat:
Those valves flank the aft companionway when heading down to the nav station, which by the way, is pure sex, They are simply huge in diameter. The one thing that struck me the most about the boat was the forward stringers forward of the Main/keel bulkheads. They were aprox 4' tall and 10" wide spaced about 3' apart. I believe there was a platform between them, but I could not imagine falling off one while under way. The whole for-peak screamed broken leg to me.
-Nathan
Did I read that right? The Forward stringers were 4 FEET tall?
Yeah, you'll see. Beefy construction...yet if things like companionway ladders aren't designed right, they break when the hull compresses and tries to meet the deck in big seas at speed.
#121
Posted 22 April 2010 - 12:09 AM
#122
Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:26 AM
#123
Posted 22 April 2010 - 03:28 AM
#124
Posted 22 April 2010 - 03:29 AM
and maybe Hendo - said to be the single best rigger in the world for big boats - on video tomorrow morning
Andrew Henderson from from Jan Juc in Victoria, Australia?
He's been sailing a fair bit with Wild Oats (caught up with him at Hamo last year) but didn't realise he had international reach.
Top bloke and awesome wave sailor to boot.
Mex
#125
Posted 22 April 2010 - 05:32 AM
#126
Posted 22 April 2010 - 11:33 AM
what was Mr. cleans position on the boat???
Fluffer.
#127
Posted 22 April 2010 - 01:19 PM
#128
Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:27 PM
Cute, Mike.
I know, I know. A bigger man would have resisted the temptation. I am weak.
#129
Posted 22 April 2010 - 02:35 PM
#130
Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:58 PM
#131
Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:51 PM
All questions will soon be answered! Today was a bit breezier but still not enough to see her stretch her legs, we sailed at a max of 17 and change in a max of 12 and a bit. I used my time to get a full video tour of the belly of the beast with John Hildebrand, engineer and a full tour of the deck with Andrew Henderson, master rigger. These are the boys that keep everything running properly, and their skills are seriously big. I also got a treat- 18 minutes on camera with one of my favorite people ever, Stan Honey. You'll really like this one, but since I have no editors with me its going to be somewhat rough and take a while. Part 1 (yesterday) should be done in a couple hours, the rest- laterIs the entire water ballast system really a manual operation??
#132
Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:44 PM
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#133
Posted 22 April 2010 - 10:58 PM
#134
Posted 22 April 2010 - 11:11 PM
getting clean up the mast for this shot almost blew out the winches.
Yeah, like Mer would trust me with her cameras.
#135
Posted 22 April 2010 - 11:14 PM
Is the entire water ballast system really a manual operation??
What do you mean by "manual"? That manifold looks pretty simple to me. Open all valves to "dump" the water to the leeward tanks before a tack or gybe. Most systems will get about 75% of the water into the new side using this method. Then the pump tops them up. Pump is usually engine driven but who knows with this beast. I'm sure Mer's photo's will reveal all. Scoops usually are not powerful enough to completely fill, they come in handy when the pump fails though!
#136
Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:02 AM
#137
Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:17 AM
The Manual means that they have to go downstairs and open the valves to do a water fill/dump, transfer.
Clean ask Stan what he thinks about water ballast
#138
Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:27 AM
Xena (modified open 60 ex Grundig) has a good transfer system with gigantic ball valves with long arms and a rope system operated from on deck. The individual tank valves were between the transfer valves and the tanks so you could leave open only the ones you wanted to use. Worked really well. Pull the red string on the windward side to dump, pull the green string on the leeward side when the transfer is complete and then tack or gybe. Still need to go down stairs to top up with the pump when you get a minute.
#139
Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:34 AM
Clean are you saying Mer went up to take that shot? Now that is impressive!
getting clean up the mast for this shot almost blew out the winches.
Yeah, like Mer would trust me with her cameras.
#140
Posted 23 April 2010 - 01:56 AM
getting clean up the mast for this shot almost blew out the winches.
I still find it amazing that his fat ass could get a moth to foil
Kidding clean!
Clean are you saying Mer went up to take that shot? Now that is impressive!
getting clean up the mast for this shot almost blew out the winches.
Yeah, like Mer would trust me with her cameras.
It would be even more impressive if she were wearing a skirt while doing so. Obviously not ideal clothing for going up the mast but I'm sure the crew wouldn't mind.
#141
Posted 23 April 2010 - 04:07 AM
It would be even more impressive if she were wearing a skirt while doing so. Obviously not ideal clothing for going up the mast but I'm sure the crew wouldn't mind.
Skirts on boats don't work out too well, but it would be hard to find a shorter pair of shorts than what she wears when shooting.
Anyway, good stuff coming but slower than we'd like. Where are my fucking editors when I need them? Here's a little taste of what super turbo looks like - 500 meters in a minute...we need something like that for our upload speeds...the boys to call for this shit are on the vid - JH and Hendo at Dark Horse Yachting.
#142
Posted 23 April 2010 - 04:18 AM
#143
Posted 23 April 2010 - 08:48 AM
#144
Posted 23 April 2010 - 05:50 PM
#145
Posted 23 April 2010 - 07:58 PM
#146
Posted 23 April 2010 - 07:58 PM
#147
Posted 23 April 2010 - 08:40 PM
So Clean, how about some answers to those questions for Alex that we asked earlier in the thread?
the answers are in the interviews, which are in the shining box on my desk.
#148
Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:36 AM
#149
Posted 24 April 2010 - 03:02 AM
#150
Posted 24 April 2010 - 06:24 PM
No, too much gear to carry around. That's native 640x480 from one of the three work horse Xacti E2s that I have accumulated. The two new W-HD versions I've bought have both failed under the tough conditions I subject them to, and Sanyo does not export the more robust E-HD version of the waterproof line to the states so I stick with the E-2s. Picture not sharp, sound mediocre, but they are reliable and when I'm doing 20 minutes with Stan Honey that is quite importantGreat video... well done. You shooting with the Canon and taking it down to AVCHD for editing?
#151
Posted 24 April 2010 - 06:27 PM
No, too much gear to carry around. That's native 640x480 from one of the three work horse Xacti E2s that I have accumulated. The two new W-HD versions I've bought have both failed under the tough conditions I subject them to, and Sanyo does not export the more robust E-HD version of the waterproof line to the states so I stick with the E-2s. Picture not sharp, sound mediocre, but they are reliable and when I'm doing 20 minutes with Stan Honey that is quite important
Great video... well done. You shooting with the Canon and taking it down to AVCHD for editing?
Is it going up soon? Really want to see the Stan Honey interview.
#152
Posted 24 April 2010 - 06:55 PM
#153
Posted 25 April 2010 - 12:18 AM
#154
Posted 25 April 2010 - 01:37 AM
Keep in mind that our equipment is subject to extremes in shock (countless baggage handlers and jaw-jarring 50 kt RIB rides), temp variations, shit tons of dust and sand and salt, and true underwater use to the rated depth limit. Plus an amount of battery and card changing in a few months that yours won't likely see in its lifetime. You might be just fine. I'm picking up the E9 I think its called which is HD but the pistol type and will review it here after garda.The Exactis are fun little units. I went with the WH1 for the optical zoom but it sounds like I should not expect it to last very long. Still though, for the price they're hard to beat.
#155
Posted 25 April 2010 - 01:44 AM
I am on I-95 just passing Jacksonville now, Mer asleep next to me with the dogs curled around eachother in the back. Been sending out emails and texts to get reports of Genuine Risk and Speedboats cruise north. I imagine there will be some good stories with the honkin southerly breeze we've seen for the last day. GR has a few hours lead. Will get interviews up in morning.
No, too much gear to carry around. That's native 640x480 from one of the three work horse Xacti E2s that I have accumulated. The two new W-HD versions I've bought have both failed under the tough conditions I subject them to, and Sanyo does not export the more robust E-HD version of the waterproof line to the states so I stick with the E-2s. Picture not sharp, sound mediocre, but they are reliable and when I'm doing 20 minutes with Stan Honey that is quite important
Great video... well done. You shooting with the Canon and taking it down to AVCHD for editing?
Is it going up soon? Really want to see the Stan Honey interview.
#156
Posted 25 April 2010 - 01:47 AM
#157
Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:24 PM
As always, if you're looking for high-res stuff for a brochure, corporate website, or to put on your wall, just send me a PM or email me, and thanks for checking them out!
Mer
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#158
Posted 25 April 2010 - 05:46 PM
Once you get your camera gear sorted you really need to get audio worked out. What you have now is "Okay" and gets the job done. Professional equipment is much cheaper and better than you'd think.
We use what is appropriate under the circumstances. Sometimes that means the pro gear (and yes, we have a lot of it), sometimes that means handheld consumer waterproofs that don't have mic jacks.
#159
Posted 26 April 2010 - 02:27 AM
#160
Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:07 AM
There was lots of great stuff from the esteemed Mr Stan Honey.
For me, though the highlight was his thoughts on the boat for the next AC.
#161
Posted 26 April 2010 - 01:35 PM
#162
Posted 26 April 2010 - 03:34 PM
#163
Posted 26 April 2010 - 04:25 PM
This is great stuff that no one else is providing - please keep it up.
#164
Posted 26 April 2010 - 06:12 PM
Great interview by any standard. Can't wait for the third installment.
This is great stuff that no one else is providing - please keep it up.
+1
#165
Posted 26 April 2010 - 06:44 PM
Great interview by any standard. Can't wait for the third installment.
This is great stuff that no one else is providing - please keep it up.
Agreed. You are hitting your stride, Clean. Great work.
#166
Posted 26 April 2010 - 07:51 PM
#167
Posted 26 April 2010 - 08:37 PM
Unbelievable accomplishments by some one who comes across as a modest, guy with
Like the 1st down lines on televison football, and the info boxes that follow nascar cars around the track
#168
Posted 26 April 2010 - 09:44 PM
#169
Posted 26 April 2010 - 10:04 PM
Looks like you've realized that interviews are about the interviewee.
Good questions. Good job.
Thx
Bob Moriarty
Ox '76 C&C-33
Jax, FL
#170
Posted 27 April 2010 - 02:26 AM
These guys must have had the snot beaten out of them beating to Newport yesterday.
I bet the crew is cursing Stan Honey now!
It does take a lot to get the snot beaten out of you on a 100 footer. throttle back a little and it is no big deal
#171
Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:04 AM
And it's not so much the people getting beat to shit - it's the boat.
#172
Posted 27 April 2010 - 01:26 PM
Good luck in the N2B!!!
#173
Posted 27 April 2010 - 07:15 PM
http://www.facebook....330423&topic=56
SPEEDBOAT sailing Just some comments on the Palm Beach to Newport Delivery that we just completed. Was a lot of fun, spent 85% of the time VMG downwind, Jibing thru the Gulf Stream. Stan used some pretty interesting techniques to figure out the corners and bends in the stream and our wind GRIB was spot on most of the time. One of the challenges that we faced was the fact that our sail inventory was limited to just 3 sails, a delivery main (short luff), and 2 fore sails, a solent, and a jib top. Another challenged that we faced was that we where carrying a significant amount of weight in the bow which we typically do not carry, normally there is nothing up there. This was a much more significant factor then i originally thought. We had trouble keeping the bow up, this was pretty harmful, this was basically the result of this being a glorified delivery and us having to carry a bunch of stuff that we normally would not have onboard. The Bow on this boat is huge and has tremendous volume, it is 10+ feet high and and 17+ feet wide at some points. But we where burying it deep at points. We basically did not have the boat setup correctly and it showed at a few points in the journey. Sailor Error. We got some weight out of the bow and she really light up. In the end this was a delivery, we motored for 4-5 hours. the boys have done a tremendous job pimping out the boat and getting her 98% of the way back to perfection. The next 2 months are going to be very exciting. keep checking this space!
#174
Posted 28 April 2010 - 01:38 PM
Will add the video tours of both the deck (guided by rigger Andrew Henderson from Dark Horse Yachting and including line spec and diameter for Rail Meat) and down below for all the technojunkies, as well as some good 16-17 knot boatspeed footage from the deck. But I think you'll be happy for tonight with this 18 minute talk with Stan Honey. Thanks for your patience.
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Stan is totally right. There needs to be more opportunities for women on ocean racers such as Speedboat. As such, aspiring female racers should post their qualifications on the Speedboat facebook page.
#175
Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:01 PM
Will add the video tours of both the deck (guided by rigger Andrew Henderson from Dark Horse Yachting and including line spec and diameter for Rail Meat) and down below for all the technojunkies, as well as some good 16-17 knot boatspeed footage from the deck. But I think you'll be happy for tonight with this 18 minute talk with Stan Honey. Thanks for your patience.
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Stan's comments about the AC were right on. Larry, give that man a blank sheet of paper and let him have at it.
#176
Posted 29 April 2010 - 03:13 PM
#177
Posted 01 May 2010 - 06:03 PM
#178
Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:09 AM
Looks like Billy Mac gave Speedboat the same crappy vinyl that he gave me. My boat name didn't stick very well either.....
Rigger 'Hendo' from Dark Horse Yachting interviewed on the toughest job on the boat and special challenges the big beast represented - a great interview subject and very good talker.
#179
Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:11 AM
#180
Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:16 AM
PART ONE:
PART TWO:
#181
Posted 03 May 2010 - 01:17 AM
#182
Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:19 AM
Tell me you don't love my new intro and outros. Don't tell anyone, but I think I am starting to like editing vids.
Yes Alan, you're very clever with your editing.
Love the Hendo interview, thanks.
Cheers
Mex
#183
Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:49 AM
#184
Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:33 AM
#185
Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:37 AM
It will be a long time before I have any spare time to make anything from the remaining 10 GB of video I shot, but as promised, here is the full tour of the deck of Speedboat. Those of you who asked about line sizes and types, have at it. Those of you looking for details on shackles, splices, and coatings, enjoy. Those interested in purchases, loads, winches, and so on, clicky clicky. I quite like this style of deck interview, and I think I'll do it again soon. Thanks for all the input you folks put into this thread and the others.
PART ONE:
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PART TWO:
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Gotta say Clean, this is some of the best stuff you've done. Very, very interesting.
Fantastic to get into the guts of a yacht like Speedboat. Got some cool ideas for a new yacht for us already.
Excellent shit bro! Keep it up.
#186
Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:35 AM
#187
Posted 03 May 2010 - 12:28 PM
Looks like Billy Mac gave Speedboat the same crappy vinyl that he gave me. My boat name didn't stick very well either.....
bear in mind it was temporarily over wrapped in red as virgin money for a spell
#188
Posted 03 May 2010 - 04:20 PM
and what it was like to sail with a nutty media whore like Branson,
Media whore? Richard Branson? How could you suggest such a thing????
Were I him, you could call me a media whore all damn day.
I'd be fine with that.
All.
Damn.
Day.
#189
Posted 03 May 2010 - 05:30 PM
Ideal for all us, rigging geeks!
#190
Posted 03 May 2010 - 05:57 PM
Well, if this is the question thread then I've got a few.
-What events are you planning to do with Speedboat over the next 12 months besides Bermuda and a possible transat attempt.
-How did you identify the need for this latest refurbishment?
And the ever popular common-interest-type-question...!
-What was your favorite experience with the boat?
So Clean, how about some answers to those questions for Alex that we asked earlier in the thread?
the answers are in the interviews, which are in the shining box on my desk.
Are you sure about that? So far you're 0 for 3 with my requests.
#191
Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:19 PM
#192
Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:50 PM
Another good interview. Good on ya.
Almost needed subtitles, though.
#193
Posted 03 May 2010 - 10:54 PM
#194
Posted 03 May 2010 - 11:48 PM
Only one critique, which has been common from the start............................hold the camera more steady and pan slower. Sometimes it gets dizzying, but other than that the vids are usually pretty good.
Thanks again to you and the Speedboat gang that allowed us this unique opportunity.
#195
Posted 04 May 2010 - 12:05 AM
#196
Posted 04 May 2010 - 12:20 AM
Well, if this is the question thread then I've got a few.
-What events are you planning to do with Speedboat over the next 12 months besides Bermuda and a possible transat attempt.
-How did you identify the need for this latest refurbishment?
And the ever popular common-interest-type-question...!
-What was your favorite experience with the boat?
So Clean, how about some answers to those questions for Alex that we asked earlier in the thread?
the answers are in the interviews, which are in the shining box on my desk.
Are you sure about that? So far you're 0 for 3 with my requests.
Unfortunately, I had about 40 minutes to shoot interviews during the day because of various issues. 20 went to Stan Honey. 30 went to the Speedboat walkthrough, mostly because I knew Rail Meat wanted it and I owe him one. Alex Jackson, who was the logical person to answer your questions, couldn't wait the half hour it took me to finish up the deck tour, and since I've had him on before, I elected to go with Honey and Hendo and catch Alex when I see him in a few weeks. Either that, or I blew off your questions 'cause you're a cunt.
And yes, I know my video work could use a professional touch, which is why I've hired professionals for the past three major events we've done. We didn't have that luxury here, and being the interviewer and cameraman at the same time is far from ideal, especially when I actually have to process what the interviewer is saying and constantly think up new questions. Still, some good comments on this and the other thread, always happy to improve.
#197
Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:16 AM
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#198
Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:39 AM
#199
Posted 04 May 2010 - 03:28 AM
does anyone know what Leopard is doing sitting down at World Financial Center in NYC?
on stand by for a trans atlantic record crossing
#200
Posted 04 May 2010 - 09:44 AM
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