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#1 Ncik

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Posted 19 October 2010 - 11:56 PM

Thought it was to be released early October?

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 12:12 AM

I saw one of the new ones that a dealer had a few weeks ago, but didn't have a chance to test it out. They are out though.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:09 AM

We did a bunch of stuff on it at the SA Sportboat Worlds. Thing is very hot, addresses everything that was wrong with the SC-1, looks great, and is designed for start line distance from the ground up. There are a few dozen of them out there that have been providing feedback to Vtek, but I think they should be in production really soon if not already

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:10 AM

like they say, pics or!

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:17 PM

like they say, pics or!


We just got all the new info and it looks pretty cool. I cant wait to try one. We are taking pre-orders now. Call us for details, we will ship this item for Free anywhere in the US, beginning early Nov.

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 02:41 PM

Looks pretty cool. As soon as we get one on our hands we will go out to play with it and will post a report. We will have it ready to order online early next week.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 12:57 PM

Thought it was to be released early October?

The New Velocitek is HERE. These are now available for Pre-Order for $599 and will ship late this week or early next and will ship you for free. These are awesome and do all the things we need them to do. They will sell fast so order yours now.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:19 PM

Have you seen the Demo Video, pretty cool features on the new Velocitek ProStart
The distance-to-line is really easy to use and will help many crews get front row starts.

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If you are not getting one now, you can always let your crew or girlfriend know that this will be a great Christmas present.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:08 PM

Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:52 PM

The Nauteek SC 200 has a similar start line distance feature (in meters, yard, or boat length with settable boat length) for a long while. The display might be a bit smaller and the the user interface more complicated (because it has way more features), but for a similar price you get way more features (e.g. VMG, automatic switching between (customizable) upwind and downwind displays, waypoints, routes, backlight (not sure if the velocitec has that), rechargeable battery (lasting 10+ hours), ...

Sad part of the story is that there were no firmware updates or product announcements or even web page updates over the last year, so it seems the company is going under or already sunk.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 01:13 AM

Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


They had the right idea, the execution wasnt the best though. If the buttons on it worked I would have been more than happy. Just need to find a decent case and figure out how to put proper tactil buttons on it somewhere

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 02:53 AM

If anyone is looking to get rid of their old SC1 I might be interested in it.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 06:57 AM

Thought it was to be released early October?


Out now. http://www.velocitek.com/prostart/

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 02:18 PM

Here's what we ran on the front page yesterday....



Velocitek, specialists in GPS instruments for performance sailing, have announced the release of the Velocitek ProStart, the first self-contained sailing instrument designed specifically to provide accurate distance-to-line measurements.

We have one on the FT 10m Anarchy and it works really well. Just ping the ends and presto - it tells you how many meters you are from the line. It takes that critical guesswork of distance to the line out of the equation, and is really good for eliminating the traditional mid line sag. We use it, like it, and now consider it an essential ingredient in our starting process. Here's what a few good sailors have to say about it...

"It's the easiest thing to use out there right now and that is such a big help because there is so much stuff going on... they're moving the start boat all the time and you’ve always got to be on top of it." - Jeremy Wilmot, tactician on Bliksem, 2009 Melges 32 World Champion

“Just got back from crewing at the Melges 32 and J-80 Worlds where we used the new Velocitek with great success. After a couple starting practices in the Melges 32, the new Velocitek was the clear winner for its simplicity in countdown timing and pinging the line and with very accurate results. We nailed several starts, by knowing the time to the start and distance to the line.” - Vince Brun, former Melges 24, J/24, Soling, Star and Etchells World Champion


"I think it’s a pretty good cheap version of what people are trying to do with computers on bigger boats. You’ll probably see it moving into bigger boats... maybe at first as a backup but then they might just ditch all the other stuff.” - Nathan Outteridge, 2 x 49er World Champion


The ProStart’s ultra-simple user interface is designed to minimize crew distractions during high-stress start sequences. The front of the ProStart is reserved for the three most important start-related buttons: the pin, boat and timer sync. The large size of these buttons makes them easy to press, even with gloved hands and easy to find in the midst of chaos. After the start the ProStart automatically switches to showing speed and heading. It also features a wind shift indicator that automatically locks on to your tack angle and shows lifts and headers on a bar graph that runs around the perimeter of the device’s over-sized LCD display.

In addition to providing easy to use real-time feedback, the ProStart automatically records a rolling 30 hour GPS data log of the user's most recent races and training sessions. The ProStart works with Velocitek's SpeedPlay race replay software, allowing racers to combine their GPS data with other boats and create race replays superimposed on a map background.

Priced at $599 the ProStart provides sailors with high-accuracy distance-to-line-measurements in a simple to use format at a fraction of the cost of high-end networked instrument systems.


The Velocitek ProStart is available at major marine outfitters and online. Click here for video of a demonstration of the Prostart

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:51 AM

Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device? When do you ping? When your bow or the device is abreast of the mark/boat? Do you have to be on a close-hauled course when you ping? Luff up head to wind? What?

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 03:16 AM

Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device?


The position accuracy depends on the time that has elapsed since you pinged the ends of the line. In a typical scenario, when you ping the ends of the line immediately before the beginning of the start sequence you can expect the accuracy to be about +/- 1.5m.

It is possible to program the ProStart with the distance between the tip of your bow and the location where the device is mounted.

I just shot a quick video showing how to do this. I'm currently uploading it to YouTube. I will share the link once the upload is finished.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:38 AM

The position accuracy depends on the time that has elapsed since you pinged the ends of the line. In a typical scenario, when you ping the ends of the line immediately before the beginning of the start sequence you can expect the accuracy to be about +/- 1.5m.

If your boat is level when you do the pinging...
Question to Velocitec: Have you enabled SBAS (WAAS, EGNOS, ...) ? That would improve absolute accuracy, but could give 'interesting' results if the boat is heeling and the (geostationary at 0 lat) SBAS satellite is going in and out of view...
Probably not a big issue as long as your latitude is smaller than your heel angle. ;-)

Question for the rules guys; may I carry a 'GPS repeater' on my boat and use it to jam my competitors Velocitec? Put my repeater receive antenna on the stern so he gets an offset and I 'push' him over the line?
Fun times...

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 12:41 PM

We used it for the Melges 32 Worlds and the Farr 40 North Americans. Worth every penny. Easy to use and easy to mount. Very impressive

#19 Velocitek

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:51 PM


The position accuracy depends on the time that has elapsed since you pinged the ends of the line. In a typical scenario, when you ping the ends of the line immediately before the beginning of the start sequence you can expect the accuracy to be about +/- 1.5m.

If your boat is level when you do the pinging...
Question to Velocitec: Have you enabled SBAS (WAAS, EGNOS, ...) ? That would improve absolute accuracy, but could give 'interesting' results if the boat is heeling and the (geostationary at 0 lat) SBAS satellite is going in and out of view...
Probably not a big issue as long as your latitude is smaller than your heel angle. ;-)

Question for the rules guys; may I carry a 'GPS repeater' on my boat and use it to jam my competitors Velocitec? Put my repeater receive antenna on the stern so he gets an offset and I 'push' him over the line?
Fun times...




The ProStart is SBAS-enabled (WAAS, EGNOS, MSAS and GAGAN). Your point about the heeling is interesting. This is not something we noticed in our testing.

I'm not sure why we didn't see it but my guess is that it's because the SBAS corrections don't instantly go out of date; even if you lose the signal for a few seconds, the last SBAS correction message the device got before losing the signal stays pretty fresh until you reacquire the signal.

Here's some good SBAS background on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia....SS_augmentation

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:24 PM

Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device? When do you ping? When your bow or the device is abreast of the mark/boat? Do you have to be on a close-hauled course when you ping? Luff up head to wind? What?


Here'a a YouTube video showing how to program the ProStart with the distance between your bow and the location where the device is mounted on your boat: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vpV4XMGdph4

When you have the bow offset programmed in to the device you want to ping the line when the device is abreast of the boat/pin.

The orientation of your boat when you do this doesn't directly impact the accuracy of the ping but you do get the best accuracy when you are moving slowly so luffing head to wind is normally the best way to go.

In practice, I have noticed that a lot of guys are leaving the bow offset at zero, going head to wind and pinging when the bowman calls out that the bow is at the pin/boat. If you do it this way you're basically pinging an artificial line half a boatlength behind the real one. This gives you a margin for error when you approach the line at a different angle than head-on.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 03:27 PM

Everything one hoped for in speedpuck @ twice the price.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:02 PM

On the Melges 24 Quantum Racing I've used the SC-1 for the starting line and now on the FT10m Anarchy we have used the ProStart. The ProStart is much more user friendly. The SC-1's buttons didn't always work. I'm going to buy one for myself to take with me from boat to boat.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:14 PM


Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device? When do you ping? When your bow or the device is abreast of the mark/boat? Do you have to be on a close-hauled course when you ping? Luff up head to wind? What?


Here'a a YouTube video showing how to program the ProStart with the distance between your bow and the location where the device is mounted on your boat: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vpV4XMGdph4

When you have the bow offset programmed in to the device you want to ping the line when the device is abreast of the boat/pin.

The orientation of your boat when you do this doesn't directly impact the accuracy of the ping but you do get the best accuracy when you are moving slowly so luffing head to wind is normally the best way to go.

In practice, I have noticed that a lot of guys are leaving the bow offset at zero, going head to wind and pinging when the bowman calls out that the bow is at the pin/boat. If you do it this way you're basically pinging an artificial line half a boatlength behind the real one. This gives you a margin for error when you approach the line at a different angle than head-on.



Does it give you distance to closest point to the line or distance to closest end?

Why don't you give TIME to the line like Expidition does? Or even time to burn or late? Seem like an easy thing to program.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:50 PM



Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device? When do you ping? When your bow or the device is abreast of the mark/boat? Do you have to be on a close-hauled course when you ping? Luff up head to wind? What?


Here'a a YouTube video showing how to program the ProStart with the distance between your bow and the location where the device is mounted on your boat: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vpV4XMGdph4

When you have the bow offset programmed in to the device you want to ping the line when the device is abreast of the boat/pin.

The orientation of your boat when you do this doesn't directly impact the accuracy of the ping but you do get the best accuracy when you are moving slowly so luffing head to wind is normally the best way to go.

In practice, I have noticed that a lot of guys are leaving the bow offset at zero, going head to wind and pinging when the bowman calls out that the bow is at the pin/boat. If you do it this way you're basically pinging an artificial line half a boatlength behind the real one. This gives you a margin for error when you approach the line at a different angle than head-on.



Does it give you distance to closest point to the line or distance to closest end?

Why don't you give TIME to the line like Expidition does? Or even time to burn or late? Seem like an easy thing to program.



Black Dog,


It is the perpendicular distance to the line. Check out the demo for an illustration of what the ProStart measures and displays.
http://www.velocitek.../prostart/demo/

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 11:16 PM



Looks interesting. What is the margin of error for this device? Can you enter a calibration offset so that you can measure the distance to the line from the bow and not the device? When do you ping? When your bow or the device is abreast of the mark/boat? Do you have to be on a close-hauled course when you ping? Luff up head to wind? What?


Here'a a YouTube video showing how to program the ProStart with the distance between your bow and the location where the device is mounted on your boat: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=vpV4XMGdph4

When you have the bow offset programmed in to the device you want to ping the line when the device is abreast of the boat/pin.

The orientation of your boat when you do this doesn't directly impact the accuracy of the ping but you do get the best accuracy when you are moving slowly so luffing head to wind is normally the best way to go.

In practice, I have noticed that a lot of guys are leaving the bow offset at zero, going head to wind and pinging when the bowman calls out that the bow is at the pin/boat. If you do it this way you're basically pinging an artificial line half a boatlength behind the real one. This gives you a margin for error when you approach the line at a different angle than head-on.



Does it give you distance to closest point to the line or distance to closest end?

Why don't you give TIME to the line like Expidition does? Or even time to burn or late? Seem like an easy thing to program.


We experimented with time to line but in practice it wasn't as helpful as one might imagine. The main difficulty in this is that when you're approaching the line at a shallow angle, small changes in your heading represent huge changes in time to line. This makes the numbers jump all over the place.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 12:16 AM

OK, So where exactly is it measuring to? Closest point or closest end?

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 12:29 AM

OK, So where exactly is it measuring to? Closest point or closest end?


It's measuring your distance to the closest point on the line which is the same as your perpendicular distance to the line.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:14 AM

Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:32 AM


Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.


I bought a new sc1, it didnt work fresh out of the box, then started the stream of refurbished replacements that also didnt work. shipping back and forth from the east coast to hawaii each time. So now I have a scratched up piece of shit refurbished SC1 where not all the numbers work and every third set of batteries or so it kills them in about two hours instead of the normal 12-16. Fail!

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 02:33 AM


Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.

+2 On this. My very expensive SC-1 just sits on shore as it is not very good at all. Considering the Pro Start is the replacement, there should be some deal done by Velocitek and it should be a good deal not some token bull shit.
What deal will you offer guys????

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 04:09 AM

How does VELOCITEK PROSTART compare to

NOVASAIL NS360 @ ~$499

NAUTEEK SC200 @ ~$599

in terms of quality and accuracy?

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 04:43 AM



Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.

+2 On this. My very expensive SC-1 just sits on shore as it is not very good at all. Considering the Pro Start is the replacement, there should be some deal done by Velocitek and it should be a good deal not some token bull shit.
What deal will you offer guys????


The SC-1 was sold with a 2 year warranty. If you have an SC-1 that is broken and under warranty, please click here to submit an online support ticket.

We are dedicated to making sure our customers are treated fairly. If you feel like this hasn't been your experience please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com and I will do my best to make things right.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 04:50 AM

I think Novasail is about to introduce new models as well , as currently they are out of stock on most models.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 10:04 PM

OK guys this is what we can do for all Sailing Anarchy fans:

Through Mauri Pro Sailing we can offer a trade-in rebate for your SC-1 applicable towards the purchase of the new ProStart only. Go to our web site and request a chat with either Rod or me and we will give you all details.

Mauri Pro Sailing: Live Help Chat

Chat Hours: M-F 9am-1pm / 2pm-6pm CT (...yes we go out for lunch!)

Offer Expires: Nov. 15th.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 02:43 AM

What purpose does the USB port serve? Changing settings?

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:20 AM

What purpose does the USB port serve? Changing settings?



Probably uploading tracks and downloading soft/firmware updates

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 10:47 AM


What purpose does the USB port serve? Changing settings?



Probably uploading tracks and downloading soft/firmware updates


Yeah, that's what it's for.

Please check out this page for a demo of what you can do with the tracks: http://www.velocitek.com/speedplay/

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:15 AM




Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.

+2 On this. My very expensive SC-1 just sits on shore as it is not very good at all. Considering the Pro Start is the replacement, there should be some deal done by Velocitek and it should be a good deal not some token bull shit.
What deal will you offer guys????


The SC-1 was sold with a 2 year warranty. If you have an SC-1 that is broken and under warranty, please click here to submit an online support ticket.

We are dedicated to making sure our customers are treated fairly. If you feel like this hasn't been your experience please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com and I will do my best to make things right.


What's the warranty on a pro-start?

I already spoke to you on the phone, I doubt an online support ticket would change things.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:17 AM

What's the warranty on a pro-start?

I already spoke to you on the phone, I doubt an online support ticket would change things.


What you described here:

The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1.


Is not at all consistent with how we typically handle the failure of an SC-1 that's under warranty. There was clearly a disconnect somewhere and I definitely think it would be worthwhile for you to get back in touch with us.

The warranty on the ProStart is 1 year.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 05:02 PM


What's the warranty on a pro-start?

I already spoke to you on the phone, I doubt an online support ticket would change things.


What you described here:

The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1.


Is not at all consistent with how we typically handle the failure of an SC-1 that's under warranty. There was clearly a disconnect somewhere and I definitely think it would be worthwhile for you to get back in touch with us.

The warranty on the ProStart is 1 year.


PM sent.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 04:20 PM

OK guys this is what we can do for all Sailing Anarchy fans:

Through Mauri Pro Sailing we can offer a trade-in rebate for your SC-1 applicable towards the purchase of the new ProStart only. Go to our web site and request a chat with either Rod or me and we will give you all details.

Mauri Pro Sailing: Live Help Chat

Chat Hours: M-F 9am-1pm / 2pm-6pm CT (...yes we go out for lunch!)

Offer Expires: Nov. 15th.


Glad to see that the offer is working really well for all Sailing Anarchy fans!
Once you start using your ProStart send us a note with your comments about the "Start" feature. Curious to hear how much you are using it and how much benefit you are getting out.

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Posted 07 November 2010 - 10:16 PM




Dear Velocitek, please credit me for my POS SC1 towards the purchase of the ProStart. Thanks.


Amen. The best I could get out of the factory was a 10% discount off a speedpuck with no option to repair or replace my SC-1. This SC-1 was replaced once 3 months previous for the exact same problem. I guess I'll have to look at the novacel or something else.

+2 On this. My very expensive SC-1 just sits on shore as it is not very good at all. Considering the Pro Start is the replacement, there should be some deal done by Velocitek and it should be a good deal not some token bull shit.
What deal will you offer guys????


The SC-1 was sold with a 2 year warranty. If you have an SC-1 that is broken and under warranty, please click here to submit an online support ticket.

We are dedicated to making sure our customers are treated fairly. If you feel like this hasn't been your experience please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com and I will do my best to make things right.


I contacted Alec, and he worked with me to come up w/ an agreeable compromise. I would advise anyone with a problem to do the same. I'm satisfied, and have a renewed faith in their customer service. I got the Pro-start because I need the 2 line readout, we'll see how it works out.
Thanks Alec

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 02:54 PM

Just got my hands on a Pro Start to mess around with this weekend. It could not be simpler to operate. The distance to line and the switch over to race mode at the gun is great, it's like a set it and forget it deal.

I have had a Speedpuck for two years and loved that but this will probably take it's place. The only thing that I wish these things had were some kind of light feature but I realize that would probably be a total battery eater?

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 03:52 PM

Seems like a good segue. Have the SpeedPucks held up pretty well over time? I'd been looking at the SC-1 not knowing they were problematic. ProStart is a bit more than I need or want. My class (Weta) doesn't allow electronics but I'd like to collect data on various setups.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 04:31 PM

Seems like a good segue. Have the SpeedPucks held up pretty well over time? I'd been looking at the SC-1 not knowing they were problematic. ProStart is a bit more than I need or want. My class (Weta) doesn't allow electronics but I'd like to collect data on various setups.


We've used the Speedpuck for two years. We give it a good beating, it's been left outside for days, been underwater more than a few times and dropped a lot. It's held up really well, the housing takes a good beating. We have had situations where it acted a bit weird after being left outside for a while but we just open it up and let it air out for a day and it's fine. When we are not using it for a long time we do take the batteries out. Overall it's a great devive and a 2 year old could work it

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 04:53 PM

Just got my hands on a Pro Start to mess around with this weekend. It could not be simpler to operate. The distance to line and the switch over to race mode at the gun is great, it's like a set it and forget it deal.

I have had a Speedpuck for two years and loved that but this will probably take it's place. The only thing that I wish these things had were some kind of light feature but I realize that would probably be a total battery eater?


Do these give you time to line based on your speed. You know for those of use to lazy to learn :)

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 05:51 PM


Just got my hands on a Pro Start to mess around with this weekend. It could not be simpler to operate. The distance to line and the switch over to race mode at the gun is great, it's like a set it and forget it deal.

I have had a Speedpuck for two years and loved that but this will probably take it's place. The only thing that I wish these things had were some kind of light feature but I realize that would probably be a total battery eater?


Do these give you time to line based on your speed. You know for those of use to lazy to learn :)


Velocitek will answer these better but the short anwers are:

Speedpuck does not give time to line. Just speed, heading, lift/header, and some kind of average speed (is it 10 secs?).
Pro Start gives distance to line.

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Posted 12 November 2010 - 07:39 PM

Do these give you time to line based on your speed. You know for those of use to lazy to learn :)


We experimented with time to line but in practice it wasn't as helpful as one might imagine. The main difficulty in this is that when you're approaching the line at a shallow angle, small changes in your heading represent huge changes in time to line. This makes the numbers jump all over the place.

If it's something you're really keen on, I would recommend checking out the RockBox. It's a competing product that places more emphasis on offering as many features as possible.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 08:43 PM




Do these give you time to line based on your speed. You know for those of use to lazy to learn :)


We experimented with time to line but in practice it wasn't as helpful as one might imagine. The main difficulty in this is that when you're approaching the line at a shallow angle, small changes in your heading represent huge changes in time to line. This makes the numbers jump all over the place.

If it's something you're really keen on, I would recommend checking out the RockBox. It's a competing product that places more emphasis on offering as many features as possible.


Any plans for waypoint capability and backlighting for distance racers?

THX.

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Posted 15 November 2010 - 09:27 PM





Do these give you time to line based on your speed. You know for those of use to lazy to learn :)


We experimented with time to line but in practice it wasn't as helpful as one might imagine. The main difficulty in this is that when you're approaching the line at a shallow angle, small changes in your heading represent huge changes in time to line. This makes the numbers jump all over the place.

If it's something you're really keen on, I would recommend checking out the RockBox. It's a competing product that places more emphasis on offering as many features as possible.


Any plans for waypoint capability and backlighting for distance racers?

THX.



The ProStart's optimized for doing distance-to-line on 20-30ft sportboats. It's a very focused product. Because of this, it's not the best choice for distance racing on catamarans.

We might look at doing something with waypoints for distance racing on a future product as there does seem to be demand for this, especially in Europe.

At the moment, it's probably worthwhile to check out some of our competitors' products that are designed with more of a one-size-fits-all approach.

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 01:46 PM

Used the Pro Start this past Saturday. Very small race, 8 boats. Small line. We pinged the ends etc and went for it. Had a good start. The Pro Start is cool and very focused product. For this type of racing we are going to stick with the Speedpuck, which we use for speed only, we don't use the other two functions at all.

We had a Speedpuck running at the same time just for fun, it was interesting to note that the speed on the Puck and the Pro-Start changed at exactly the same time. Just thought that was cool, my non-technical mind tells me that the two devices have very similar technology/GPS guts in them?

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Posted 16 November 2010 - 09:34 PM

Used the Pro Start this past Saturday. Very small race, 8 boats. Small line. We pinged the ends etc and went for it. Had a good start. The Pro Start is cool and very focused product. For this type of racing we are going to stick with the Speedpuck, which we use for speed only, we don't use the other two functions at all.

We had a Speedpuck running at the same time just for fun, it was interesting to note that the speed on the Puck and the Pro-Start changed at exactly the same time. Just thought that was cool, my non-technical mind tells me that the two devices have very similar technology/GPS guts in them?


The SpeedPuck uses a u-blox LEA-4A GPS chipset and the ProStart the LEA-5A which is essentially the next generation of the same chip. In practical terms, the main difference between the two is that the ProStart's GPS module uses SBAS to improve positioning accuracy. In terms of measuring speed as opposed to position, the SpeedPuck and the ProStart have very similar performance.

It's interesting to note that two GPS devices sitting next to each other can end up with GPS solutions based on different (but overlapping) sets of satellites. When this happens the two devices will give slightly different output, even if both pieces of hardware are identical.

#53 Velocitek

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 08:23 PM

Can the unit be set for magnetic heading and how do you do that?


The video here shows how to do this: http://www.velocitek.../watch-video/#6

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 02:38 AM

Maybe a stupid question...Sorry.
Do you have to adjust anything to use in a differant country?
Does it need special sattelites available only in the USA for the GPS to update?
Or do you just turn on and use in any country.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 02:41 AM

Maybe a stupid question...Sorry.
Do you have to adjust anything to use in a differant country?
Does it need special sattelites available only in the USA for the GPS to update?
Or do you just turn on and use in any country.


The ProStart will work anywhere in the world as long as it has a clear view of the sky.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 02:43 AM

gps is global. just turn it on and it will pick up the best available satellites.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 03:45 AM

Thought so.
I was walking around with it in my front lawn trying it out and no speed info or direction came up and wondered why.
Maybe it only works at water level :huh:

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 04:17 AM

Thought so.
I was walking around with it in my front lawn trying it out and no speed info or direction came up and wondered why.
Maybe it only works at water level :huh:


It should work on your lawn as long as there is a clear view of the sky. The first time you turn it on after changing the batteries it will take a few minutes for the device to download almanac information from the GPS satellites before it can lock on to a solution. If you still don't get anything after leaving it stationary, outside, with a clear view of the sky for 6 minutes, please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 04:23 AM

Thought so.
I was walking around with it in my front lawn trying it out and no speed info or direction came up and wondered why.
Maybe it only works at water level :huh:


not that you'd need or use it on a sailboat, but gps info does include altitude. gps units from power down need to find satellite signals to lock onto. takes some time. my old garmin etrex can take a few minutes to lock onto signals after changing the batteries.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 05:58 AM


Thought so.
I was walking around with it in my front lawn trying it out and no speed info or direction came up and wondered why.
Maybe it only works at water level :huh:


It should work on your lawn as long as there is a clear view of the sky. The first time you turn it on after changing the batteries it will take a few minutes for the device to download almanac information from the GPS satellites before it can lock on to a solution. If you still don't get anything after leaving it stationary, outside, with a clear view of the sky for 6 minutes, please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com.


Great,Thanks.
Will first check it out on the boat.
Should be fine.
Probably too many buildings around the house.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 02:27 PM


Thought so.
I was walking around with it in my front lawn trying it out and no speed info or direction came up and wondered why.
Maybe it only works at water level :huh:


It should work on your lawn as long as there is a clear view of the sky. The first time you turn it on after changing the batteries it will take a few minutes for the device to download almanac information from the GPS satellites before it can lock on to a solution. If you still don't get anything after leaving it stationary, outside, with a clear view of the sky for 6 minutes, please send me an email at alec@velocitek.com.


I know this is what Alec means, but a 'clear' view of the sky should be read as 'clear and WIDE' view of the sky.
btw Alec, its cool that you are posting on behalf of Vtek, adds a lot of value.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 02:25 AM

Any opinions on the Vtek Pro start compared to the Rockbox?

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 09:45 AM

Will it receive L5 data?

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 04:02 PM

Will it receive L5 data?


The ProStart does not receive L5 data. Right now only one of the 31 satellites in the GPS constellation is broadcasting an L5 signal. An additional satellite is scheduled for 2011 but it's going to be several years before enough satellites are broadcasting L5 for the data to be of any use for navigation.

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Posted 02 January 2011 - 10:59 PM

I had my first weekend of use and have a few questions.

What are people pointing at when they ping the ends? Head to wind or weather mark?
Can you change the distant to line from Meters to Feet or boatlengths instead?
Has anyone had the isssue of dealing with swinging RC boat?

Seems to be a need product but was OCS in two of 8 races.

Thanks

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:05 PM

If you ping the line with the box mounted on the mast, everything in front of the mast will be OCS @ 0ft....

the box does not care about orientation, you are setting a "waypoint" with the box and it will tell you when the box approaches a line between the two waypoints... using civilian GPS accuracy +/- 8' or so....

Don't rely on it, keep your head out of the boat...

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 02:20 PM

Just ordered from  www.velasailingsupply.com

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Hoping the unit is more stable than Velocitek's previous products, I'd hate to have a 599 unit have problems.

 

 

 






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