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[saltyokie]

Sadly the most popular combined SBYC and Sailing Club event, Goleta Beach Race and BBQ was cancelled. Seems the person in charge (whose name rhymes with Schaumberger) neglected to follow thru on planning the event, neglected to reserve the bbq and picnic area and then neglected to mention to anyone that he blew the whole thing out of the water

I'm puzzled - just how does your posting help the situation. Some one made a mistake - in volunteer organizations it happens.

[silent bob]

Sadly the most popular combined SBYC and Sailing Club event, Goleta Beach Race and BBQ was cancelled. Seems the person in charge (whose name rhymes with Schaumberger) neglected to follow thru on planning the event, neglected to reserve the bbq and picnic area and then neglected to mention to anyone that he blew the whole thing out of the water.
I
Once a dick head...always a dickhead.

Snakes come out of the toilet again?

[Janer]

Bobbo,
You crack me up

[tizak]

Great day of practice in SF on the 400 getting ready for Big Boat. Saw about 22 kts. hit about 18 a couple of times.

Had a flyby from the big French foiler off Angel Island. Probably blowing 20 at the time and we estimate they may have been doing about 30. It's one thing to see pics and videos but seeing this monster in action is incredible.

for those interested I'll post a link to some pics when I get time.

[Janer]

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[Janer]

Great day of practice in SF on the 400 getting ready for Big Boat. Saw about 22 kts. hit about 18 a couple of times.

Had a flyby from the big French foiler off Angel Island. Probably blowing 20 at the time and we estimate they may have been doing about 30. It's one thing to see pics and videos but seeing this monster in action is incredible.

for those interested I'll post a link to some pics when I get time.

Tom, Would love to have any photos and updates on Big Boat Series. Half of your class are J125's. Any feelings about how the 400 will measure up in the conditions of SF Bay? Good luck to you, Bernie and the crew. I know you have all put a lot of effort into preparing for Big Boat.
Love ya, Janer

[tizak]

Will probably be able to get pix going later today. The sporadic wireless connection at the ever elegant Cow Hollow seems to be on vacation most of the time.

The pros sailing with us (Kevin Miller / Malcolm Park) feel it's going to be a serious dog fight with us needing to make and consolidate our gains on the runs and work hard to stay in contact upwind. Conditions have been pretty variable. We practiced hard on Monday and had a repair day yesterday. Early during practice we had the boat going 20.9 in 24 kts. of breeze and flood conditions. Later the wind dialed up to 27 with some ebb showing on the water. The ebb created chop kept us from breaking our 21 kt. boat speed threshold. Fortunately for us much of Big Boat will take place in flood conditions. Yesterday brought somewhat lighter winds which we could probably do well in.

Light practice scheduled for today with registration, St. FYC activities and final prep this afternoon.

[tizak]

A little more...

Compared 125 and 400 polars at breakfast. The key for us seems to be getting to 16 kts. of breeze (probably a cinch in SF). At 16 we're the faster boat in our fleet which could prove to be a big advantage in picking lanes and staying in clear air.

[Ship o' Fools]

Will probably be able to get pix going later today. The sporadic wireless connection at the ever elegant Cow Hollow seems to be on vacation most of the time.

The pros sailing with us (Kevin Miller / Malcolm Park) feel it's going to be a serious dog fight with us needing to make and consolidate our gains on the runs and work hard to stay in contact upwind. Conditions have been pretty variable. We practiced hard on Monday and had a repair day yesterday. Early during practice we had the boat going 20.9 in 24 kts. of breeze and flood conditions. Later the wind dialed up to 27 with some ebb showing on the water. The ebb created chop kept us from breaking our 21 kt. boat speed threshold. Fortunately for us much of Big Boat will take place in flood conditions. Yesterday brought somewhat lighter winds which we could probably do well in.

Light practice scheduled for today with registration, St. FYC activities and final prep this afternoon.

I would think you would want an ebb so your downwind legs are longer time-wise since downwind legs are your strength and an ebb would shorten the time you are sailing up wind. No so?

[Ball Breaker]

Very true Ship O Fools.

[Inter 20]

SOF... You are so far above average. Current is the biggest variable that completely destroys a handicap rating system. It's rather simple math. Sailing upwind against current favors the faster rated boat. Even more so if it's strength is upwind. Downwind with a current favors the slower rated boat. However, it doesn't equalize out in an upwind/downwind course. The gain going upwind against the current by the faster rated boat is not made up by the gain made by the slower rated boat downwind with the current.

[Ship o' Fools]

SOF... You are so far above average. Current is the biggest variable that completely destroys a handicap rating system. It's rather simple math. Sailing upwind against current favors the faster rated boat. Even more so if it's strength is upwind. Downwind with a current favors the slower rated boat. However, it doesn't equalize out in an upwind/downwind course. The gain going upwind against the current by the faster rated boat is not made up by the gain made by the slower rated boat downwind with the current.

Did you read that in a book?

[Inter 20]

SOF... You are so far above average. Current is the biggest variable that completely destroys a handicap rating system. It's rather simple math. Sailing upwind against current favors the faster rated boat. Even more so if it's strength is upwind. Downwind with a current favors the slower rated boat. However, it doesn't equalize out in an upwind/downwind course. The gain going upwind against the current by the faster rated boat is not made up by the gain made by the slower rated boat downwind with the current.

Did you read that in a book?

No. I wrote the book. I'll send you a copy when you turn double nickels.

[Ship o' Fools]

SOF... You are so far above average. Current is the biggest variable that completely destroys a handicap rating system. It's rather simple math. Sailing upwind against current favors the faster rated boat. Even more so if it's strength is upwind. Downwind with a current favors the slower rated boat. However, it doesn't equalize out in an upwind/downwind course. The gain going upwind against the current by the faster rated boat is not made up by the gain made by the slower rated boat downwind with the current.

Did you read that in a book?

No. I wrote the book. I'll send you a copy when you turn double nickels.

Which book is that?
I do remember reading a sailing book (well actually skimming and looking at pictures as we were trained to do in public school) years ago and you had written one of the chapters. I think there was even a picture of you in the book - though I am not sure that would have helped sales. I wondered how many people who read your chapter went on to a successful sailing career versus those that gave up sailing all together. Is that book still in print or was that one of the books society found socially unacceptable because it was about catamaran sailing and was burned at a book burning by US Sailing?

[tizak]

In large swells the 400 accelerates down the face of the approaching wave, takes off and then plows its blunt bow into the back side of the wave in front which causes deceleration - we don't knife through as well as a sharp bow. Experience here in the flood shows that the boat can stay on a plane longer in flat water. Sailed right in the right breeze the boat can be put up on a plane without the need of a wave to kick things off. Once planing in steady or increasing pressure spin trim, steering, main pumping and weight placement can keep the train rolling .

[Inter 20]

SoF, that really hurts. It was on the Mission Bay News and Review's best sellers list for 1 week back in 1985. All 12 copies were bought by my aunt.

[Ship o' Fools]

SoF, that really hurts. It was on the Mission Bay News and Review's best sellers list for 1 week back in 1985. All 12 copies were bought by my aunt.

Catamaran Racing: for the 90's is available on Amazon. Wow . . . just like herpes, it won't go away.

"This book is a pool of thoughts of the World's Greatest sailors. It covers catamaran and trimaran tuning, boat handling, sail handling (including spinnakers/reachers/hooters), tactics, and much more. Written by the Hall-of-Famer and guru of multihulls, Rick White who tells it all, and then goes the extra mile to include chapters by such greats as Randy Smyth, . . . . Eric Sharp, National Journalist wrote, "It doesn't matter what kind of multihull you sail, or what size -- this book will make you better at it..."

"This book will make you better at it . . ." Better at what? Hooter handling? I wonder if Jimmy Spithill read your chapter - I'll ask him the next time I see him. The summary mentions that the book is a pool of thoughts -- were you the deep end or the shallow end?

[Janer]

Hmmm, wondering what happened to Rock & Roll at Big Boat yesterday. Looks like they did poorly in the bigger breeze in the second race. The J/125's corrected a full 10 minutes ahead of them.

Get in the groove Rock & Roll!

[Janer]

Sadly the most popular combined SBYC and Sailing Club event, Goleta Beach Race and BBQ was cancelled. Seems the person in charge neglected to follow thru on planning the event, neglected to reserve the bbq and picnic area and then neglected to mention to anyone that he blew the whole thing out of the water

I'm puzzled - just how does your posting help the situation. Some one made a mistake - in volunteer organizations it happens.

I'm aghast that I disgruntled sailor, rating whiner would threaten to take back a perpetual trophy that he donated. That's what I call a MISTAKE.

[saltyokie]

As usual, Jane, you have not a clue what you are talking about but that never stops you.Why did you change the subject? - we were talking about your cheap shot at the Sailing Club.

[Janer]

Salty Complainer,
My shot was not at the sailing club, it was towards my ex. Sorry you didn't get it but most people did. It was pretty much an inside joke. No big deal. But we are going to change the name of the trophy in question to "Sour Grapes Trophy". Get it?

[Janer]

TOMORROW, The Charity Regatta to benefit Hospice and Visiting Nurses. Festivities start at 12:30, followed by the race and auction. Most boats will have a guest driver, fireman, policeman, etc.which has been the MO since 9/11. Event chair Tom Parker has already raised over $100,000 in donations. It will be another great event for a great cause! Spectator boats available.

[Janer]

http://www.ktvu.com/...ne-crash/vdsPq/

Yacht club member and owner of Farr 40 Flyer, Stanford Shaw barely escaped with his life last night when he and his father crashed their airplane in the ocean near Big Sur. EPRIB's, a Coast Guard helicopter and police saved them!
Glad you made it Stanford.!!

[Inter 20]

SoF, that really hurts. It was on the Mission Bay News and Review's best sellers list for 1 week back in 1985. All 12 copies were bought by my aunt.

Catamaran Racing: for the 90's is available on Amazon. Wow . . . just like herpes, it won't go away.

"This book is a pool of thoughts of the World's Greatest sailors. It covers catamaran and trimaran tuning, boat handling, sail handling (including spinnakers/reachers/hooters), tactics, and much more. Written by the Hall-of-Famer and guru of multihulls, Rick White who tells it all, and then goes the extra mile to include chapters by such greats as Randy Smyth, . . . . Eric Sharp, National Journalist wrote, "It doesn't matter what kind of multihull you sail, or what size -- this book will make you better at it..."

"This book will make you better at it . . ." Better at what? Hooter handling? I wonder if Jimmy Spithill read your chapter - I'll ask him the next time I see him. The summary mentions that the book is a pool of thoughts -- were you the deep end or the shallow end?

I think your gene pool needs more chlorine.

[full circle]

http://www.ktvu.com/...ne-crash/vdsPq/

Yacht club member and owner of Farr 40 Flyer, Stanford Shaw barely escaped with his life last night when he and his father crashed their airplane in the ocean near Big Sur. EPRIB's, a Coast Guard helicopter and police saved them!
Glad you made it Stanford.!!

glad to hear they are both alright!

big sailboat rodeo in ventura this weekend(ventura cup/santa barbara channel challenge). who all is coming down from santa barbara?

[silent bob]

http://www.ktvu.com/...ne-crash/vdsPq/

Yacht club member and owner of Farr 40 Flyer, Stanford Shaw barely escaped with his life last night when he and his father crashed their airplane in the ocean near Big Sur. EPRIB's, a Coast Guard helicopter and police saved them!
Glad you made it Stanford.!!

glad to hear they are both alright!

big sailboat rodeo in ventura this weekend(ventura cup/santa barbara channel challenge). who all is coming down from santa barbara?

The Ventucky Bowl?


My Tractor rates 138!

[Janer]

http://www.ktvu.com/...ne-crash/vdsPq/

Yacht club member and owner of Farr 40 Flyer, Stanford Shaw barely escaped with his life last night when he and his father crashed their airplane in the ocean near Big Sur. EPRIB's, a Coast Guard helicopter and police saved them!
Glad you made it Stanford.!!

http://abcnews.go.co...6UG1YVblA.email

It's now on the national news, we just need to thank the Coast Guard so much for rescueing our friends. Stanford and his father did all the right things to get the Coast Guard to their position,wearing life jackets and having a good EPRIB. It was tight on time. The plane sank moments after they picked up Stanford. THANK YOU COAST GUARD!!!

[Dawg Gonit]

I saw all you guys on the KEYT News this morning!!

Hospice Regatta and the Sailors off that big Gray Navy Ship.

They kept talking about the "Taxi Dancer".....Go Jimmy

[Janer]

glad to hear they are both alright!

big sailboat rodeo in ventura this weekend(ventura cup/santa barbara channel challenge). who all is coming down from santa barbara?

As far as I know, we have a 3 boat team, J/29, J/22 and J/92. The idea that one of our team has to do a non-spinnaker race is still so boring. Interest wanes. A tractor pull would be a bonus.

[Jaded]

No where does it say you need a non-spinnaker boat in the The Ventucky Bowl.
I would sail with the J 92 and J 29 in the "B" fleet. This is a solid 1, 2 combo.
Looking forward to sailing against the 22.
I miss the spanking SBYC used to give the "A" fleet.

[b green]

I think Larry is thinking of a 1-1 combo....also looking forward to the c fleet race, what's the wind forecast?

[Pete M]

Saturday: SSE wind 5 to 10 kt becoming W in the morning. Sunny. Mixed swell...W 2 ft and S 2 ft. Wind waves around 1 ft.

Saturday Night: W wind 5 to 10 kt becoming variable and less than 5 kt in the evening. Mostly clear. Mixed swell...W 2 ft and S 3 ft. Wind waves 1 to 2 ft.

Sunday: Variable winds 5 kt or less. Sunny. Mixed swell...W 2 ft and S 3 ft. Wind waves around 1 ft.

[EWS]

Sounds like good Tiger weather.....too bad I'm delivering down to SD

[Pete M]

gonna be warm tho

[Janer]

Tomorrow's best picks:
Voting for Johnny D in the Farr 40 Worlds in Chicago
and Pat Toole in the J/24 Worlds in New York!
More cow bell!
Cheers to the Santa Barbara Yacht Club teams

[Jaded]

Santa Barbara Yacht Club has a half point lead in the bowl after 2 races. 1 race tomorrow.

[J.A.G.]

Anyone take a photo of posted results? Can't find anything online tonight.

[30Man]

Can't believe no results online, even now!!

[b green]

Hard day, no wind to maybe 5 kts.....luck of the draw, one leg......sucked

[Janer]

Bummer, still no results?

[Janer]

 First place CHRF compressed.jpg   82.49K   10 downloadsHot, light and shifty in SB today as well. CHRF race was won by the gorgeous Alerion 28 with Mary Lee and Andrew. Scott Deardorff took 3rd single handing a Harbor 20 and popped the chute at the start admirally in the easterly wind. Karen and Kevin RC! Thanks

[silent bob]

Bummer, still no results?

They haven't invented the InterWebs in the Ventucky, yet!

[Madmax]

Farmer Cup results.
Deke had it on FB.
Here you go.

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[Ball Breaker]

Had a fun time racing in the Ventura Cup. Ventura YC did a nice job running the event. Wish we had more boats in our class. Would be nice to see more YC & Sailing Club boats go down next year.

[Mike G]

Here's a few photos from slow-Sunday.
http://portraitinc.smugmug.com/Boats/2012-Ventura-Cup-Sunday/25414444_hHn4WX#!i=2091693192&k=9ShRtJ8

[condor]

After first days, Johnnie D in fifth at Farr 40 Worlds, Pat Toole and crew in tenth at J-24 Worlds.

Go, go go!

[Madmax]

Go Johnny!!!!!

http://regattanews.c...lid=0&cid=25287

[Janer]

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Things are looking hot in the Farr 40 worlds in Chicago. Some big winds and seas. Second race today was cancelled due rough conditions. Johnny D is definitely staying in the pack, now 5th overall, with one first under his belt. First place changed hands from Tranfusion to Flash Gordon. Sharon flew up there on Monday with the hopes of great shots in these conditions.Go Johnny, Go.
Great shots by Kurt Arrigo

[Dawg Gonit]

Here's a few photos from slow-Sunday.
http://portraitinc.s...93192&k=9ShRtJ8

OMG, is this really a start from one of the races at the Ventucky Cup? Have I been out of local racing that long that starts have got this bad? Looks like a Starting Seminar is needed.

[saltyokie]

well - Deke has a good start

[Jaded]

The start was closer then it looks. I was OCS. We missed you out there Dawg. The weather was perfect Zap conditions.

[Madmax]

At least they were at the leeward end! Waiting for you!

[Ball Breaker]

Next new Harbor 20 to join the Santa Barbara fleet will be here tomorrow.

[swamp gas]

New Weapon Coming to Town....


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[EWS]

The cat is out.......not a bad new toy to play with

[Janer]

New Weapon Coming to Town....


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So excellent! New blood in the A fleet. Taxi will be gone next year on charter. It's great to see the A Fleet revived, for several years it was Taxi vs. Alchemy. Sweet to have so many boats of like size; Farr 40's, Farr 400, J/145 and Santa Cruz 52 and now a RP 48 in the A Fleet. Yippee!

[DamnSkippy]

It's a RP45 Jane, 'Sjambok' : Sjambok (Sham-Bawk) is a cattle prod, a whip, a riding crop. You must own a few of these...come back luv!!

[Janer]

I just caught the title of the pic. Crockett's Rocket. Pretty funny, but that would be a good boat name, or "King of the Wild Frontier".
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OK Skippy, you were right. Not about the whip, etc. luv to you too. By the way you are looking good.

[Nick G]

Gonna need more wind than your average Wet Wednesday and you better get the kelp cutter sharpened.

[saltyokie]

according to the web site the RP 45 draws a little over 10 feet. That could get interesting.

[Janer]

Last year he had a little yellow Harbor 20, his first sailboat. In the next couple of weeks the new J/70 arrives along with Crockett's Rocket, RP 45. Congrats Eli!! Welcome to the frey. Looking forward to playing with you on the big blue.

[Ball Breaker]

Eli has had boats in the past.....both sail & power. This should be fun.

[Janer]

This weekend is looking like max fun at the East/West Harbor 20 Challenge at Newport Harbor Yacht Club. 4 teams are participating: Hilton Head YC, Annapolis, Santa Barbara YC and Newport Harbor YC. Four boats on each team. SBYC is going with skippers Scott Deardorff, Al Salzer,Rich Miller and Chester Gillmore. Thanks to Scott for bringing down an SBYC spectator/photo boat!

Looking at the charts of the back harbor, there will be lots of tidal current to deal with. A different ball game for us as we sail the Harbor 20's on the open ocean and fly spinnakers in SB. An anomoly to the challengers who sail inside the harbor with no spinnakers.

Looking forward to seeing how we do under these conditions. One thing for sure, the parties planned sound excellent.(although pricey).The regatta chairs have put a great effort into guest housing. I'm looking forward an afternoon cocktail on a nice 50 foot power boat with a couple of SB gal sailors after sailing and prepping for the parties. (Thanks Kenny, Mary and Wayne)
Will report back....

[Janer]

East West Harbor 20 Challenge: Tough conditions, great racing, open bar, great food, wonderful hospitality. Congrats to Scott Deardorff and Matt Wilson, 2nd overall! 16 boats, 4 yacht clubs: Newport Harbor YC, Santa Barbara YC, Hilton Head YC and Annapolis.
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[Janer]

First place was Tom and Jane Schock (hmm) who happened to be sailing for Annapolis Yacht Club instead of Newport Harbor (?). Third place was local Karl Pomeroy who was also sailing for Annapolis (huh?).

The remained of the Santa Barbara team (Ann Hutchins, Chester Gillmore, Bill Bench, Al Salzer, Rich Miller and Tom Kelleway) were quite a bit further down in the food chain. It was a steep learning curve as we are accustomed to sailing our Harbor 20's on the open ocean with spinnakers in Santa Barbara.

Breeze was 4-10 knots with 4 races per day. So much fun!
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[6924]

Consider it a standing invite for the SBs to come down more often and soak up the local knowledge

[Janer]

Thanks 6924! Great times. I'm pretty sure SBYC won the dance contest. So great to meet and sail and party with sailors from Annapolis and Hilton Head. And the Newport folks, I can't say enough about the hospitality. New friends who took such great care of us. We are planning a new regatta in SB, South Coast vs. Central Coast. Looking forward to pay backs on your hospitality and taking you on the open ocean with aso's.

[Janer]

Looking Large! The Crockett Rocket arrived in SB today, very impressive. She will be in the yard for about a month, repainted and getting ready for next season. Congrats to Eli on his new project. Can't wait to see her splashed.
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[Janer]

Campbell Cup is ON in Long Beach. 5 Sleds and 8 Farr 40's. Local team Skian Dhu is in 4th in the Farr Class after today with 12 points.Dark Star (4) is pretty much sweeping the competition, followed by Viva la Vida (10), and JoAnn (11) so it's still a fight tomorrow.

Taxi Dancer with Roy Pat Disney driving is tied for 4th in the sled fleet. Holua leading followed by Alchemy and GI.

Lots of roundings and a long day means it's time for beverage and jacuzzi. Go teams!
A great event in honor of a wonderful man. RIP Mike Campbell.

[Janer]

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Sounds like the Campbell Cup was a blast. Local boat Taxi Dancer came in 3rd. Winner was Brack Duker with Holua, a long, long time sled owner/driver, 2nd Alchemy and 4th Ed McDowell who still drives his same boat Grand Illusion after 20 years. Nice. Ed's boat is named by his hobby which is magic tricks. Long live the sled class!

The Farr 40 class had 8 boats. Jeff Janov ruled the fleet on Dark Star, Viva la Vida second and Skian Dhu was third overall. Tight racing with overlaps at the finish. Victoria Hamilton was there to give out trophies.

Photo credit due: I think is JoySailing. Photo JoAnn and Skian Dhu

[Madmax]

Is that RP 45 in da wata yet?

[Janer]

Max..nope. Upgrades in process. You should come down to the harbor some time and check it out. Secret stuff in the back of the yard.

This weekend we have two teams from SBYC doing the Jean Schenck Memorial Team Race in Newport: Scott Deardorff and Kent Pierce on one team, Ken Kieding and Eric Stokke on the other. There are 9 teams doing round robin in Harbor 20's. Winning team will be awarded an invitation to the Baldwin Cup next year.

Some well known names in the lineup:Russ Silvestri and Craig Fletcher sailing for St. Francis. Bill Menninger sailing for Newport. It's not an easy venue. I'm putting money on our team. Our best guys in small boats and Harbor 20's. Bring it!

[Madmax]

I'm betting on Menninger.

[6924]

4:4 team racing in Hatbor 20s is brutal

[And 1]

It is 2x2 not 4x4. Prediction
1) NHYC Bar Code
2) SDYC
3) Balboa # 1
4) NHYC Tweed (menninger)
5) Up for grabs
Sorry Janer, No disrespect as SBYC may be good but gotta get at least one of these under belt before any talk of winning!

[Janer]

Interesting prediction, I would have put Menninger at the top. You're predicting St. Francis and SBYC to be at the bottom? Can't find any results yet for the first day of racing.
No apologies needed, I will always promote my home team.
xx janer

[And 1]

I didn't put STFYC and SBYC at the bottom as there are 9 teams. When you are talking team racing and putting a Menninger on top you think of his kids Michael and Marla who are world class. Both are sailing the US team race champs which will end today at Larchmont. NHYC has 4 sailors racing the "Hinman" including 2 former champs. $Bill is a decent team racer (still learning) and fast in H20. He usually crews on the A team. His speed would have been huge yesterday as it was light and crappy conditions and that is where the fast boats stand out. His teammate is pretty good but not consistent. Russ is also newer to team racing although doing a lot of it lately but i would rank him 5th on the depth chart in this regatta and not sure who his 2nd teammate is. NHYC Bar code is easily the best team on paper but 2x2 is crazy and yesterday was hideous so ya never know. Hope your guys do well and have a great experience. The Harbor 20 team race thing is a lot of fun.

[Janer]

St Francis 2nd team is I believe Craig Fletcher, long time aggressive local sailor. What do you mean by hideous? No wind and lots of traffic is what I saw down there 2 weeks ago. Thanks for keeping us posted. Speaking of "posted" any idea where the results are?

[And 1]

i saw Fletch in entries just didn't think he would be 2nd skipper, but didn't see any of their other team racers that I know. That is why I didn't rank them in the top 4. If he is driving then STFYC has little chance of making the top 5. STFYC definitely is not sending their best to the event. NHYC doesn't always promptly post results. Same old no wind but should be less traffic with possible rain in forecast. Best time to sail inside in Newport is when rain is predicted because you usually get wind (except this time) and the traffic is light. Unfortunately weddings are planned months in advance so can't do anything about the Hornblower wedding armada.

[And 1]

NHYC has a webcam where you can kinda sorta see the action. Located on left hand side of home page nhyc.org

http://www.nhyc.org/...id=210138&vnf=1

[And 1]

Results are up https://docs.google....d=1&output=html

STFYC didn't win any races in first round robin.

[Janer]

And 1,
Well, damn, your predictions came to fruition for the most part. Thanks for your help in updates and the link to the video cam. I see that damn dredge is still pretty much in the middle of the race course. Local knowledge ruled! I'm just glad we had a team there to compete. Great guys and great sailors.
Best, Janer

[And 1]

predicted all the top 4 teams but wrong order. HUGE win for Bill and Tommy. Since not enough time for 2nd round robin they went straight to knock out and they beat bar code for the win. Tommy said everyone was coming up saying "I can't believe you guys won". Not exactly what you want to hear but better than not winning. And that is why we race!

[chica-loca]

Thanks, And 1, for posting the results. There were a number of us H20 sailors back here in SB waiting to see how things went. Good job to my SBYC buddies for participating! The rest of us were back here on our piece of the ocean enjoying H20 racing today with spinnakers. Much fun!

[And 1]

Bill's daughter Marla was on the winning team today at US team race champs and son Michael was on 2nd place team. not a bad day to be a Menninger!

[Clockwork]

Wow...That was a mind bender. As Kent said..'Feels good to get the rust off'. I think we did well for our first run at team racing. Learned a lot! Kent did a great job communicating and calling team tactics on Sunday and the results show with 3 W's. (I need practice on impementation) Kenny and Eric were great team players and put up with a few of my crazy maneuvers that didn't pan out.

SBYC was well represented in the rain gutter races on Saturday night. Kent designed an awesome trimaran and we made it to the semi-finals. I got a penalty (shot of rum) that knocked the wind out of me in our last race. Another display of over the top NHYC hospitality. Great fun and flawless race committee in challenging conditions.

I'll be back next year if my nuts can take the punishment.

[Rubber Duck]

If anyone is interested I am bringing an Open 5.70 up to SB for the Goblin 26 - 28. I will be around all afternoon Friday, and the weekend if anyone would like to check out the boat or go for a demo sail. I grew up on the Mesa, learned to race from Johnny D, and have been looking for an excuse to get back and play on the home waters. Hope to see some familiar faces.

Nick

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[Janer]

Under the topic "Weird and shitty news" J/24 sailors the Tunbergs had their power boat broken into yesterday in Marina One and the perps ransacked it. Fortunately the Tunbergs had recently moved most of their belongings to their new boat. The stuff stolen, keys,operating instructions, and boating goodies, which the perps loaded onto a neighbor's dinghy (Noury), stole that boat and shot across the harbor to the beach. They appeared to be celebrating their catch (rumored to include a little sexual romp) when the cops got there. (Hello, is this all your stuff? and could you put your pants on). Most of the missing stuff was recovered. WTF?

Much sadder news, a surfer lost his life today at Surf Beach, near Lompoc. another shark attack. Condolences to his surfer pals who tried to save him

[Madmax]

Is Crotch Rocket done?

[Janer]

Too many bats in your cave max?

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[Janer]

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Very cool, three new J/70's delivered to SB today. Congrats to John Coye, Eli Parker, Mike Drammer and Ken Kieding. Let the games begin!

[Madmax]

Cool! Look forward to racing the 70's with the 80 and it should be fun. More B fleet.

Sailed in LA on Hot Rum in the Castillion Classic this weekend. Fun racing.

Saw a J 111 there and it is a pretty boat. J boats are making some fine looking boats nowadays.

[Janer]

Congrats to John Coye! His new J/70 Sloop John B was splashed yesterday and will be racing tomorrow.

Eli's Crockett's Rocket is looking very cool.

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[Madmax]

Here comes the rain!

[Janer]

OK, I have never witnessed anything like this. Last race of a season championship, two boats are virtually tied for first place going into today's race. The biggest and fastest boat in today's fleet is not in the running due to lack of participation in previous races. The big boat is winning handily when she suddenly does a 180 and heads towards the fleet behind her. She blankets one of the 1st place contenders allowing her friend, the other contender, to surge ahead. I don't believe there were any fouls and no protests were filed. Any comments?

[Madmax]

I believe there is a rule against this.

Jeff Johnson did it during a Cal 20 National Championship regatta @1985 and the rule writers made a rule against such behaivior. In Johnsons case he was leading the regatta and he broke off the windward leg he was winning and went and camped on the boat that was second in the series that was on the downwind leg. He harrased the boat and cut the leeward mark to flagrantly slow them down. On their next leg even.

Because the regatta had a throwout, Johnson figured if the second place series boat got a bad enough finish, he was assured not having to sail the last race. It was appealed and Johnson was chucked for unsportsmanlike conduct i think.
Now there is a rule against this behaivior. But if i am not mistaken it is only relevant if the bad behaivior boat breaks off their leg.

[Madmax]

Btw who were the players?

[silent bob]

Btw who were the players?

Boat A

and

Boat B

Vying for the Guacamole Bowl.

Since when did anything in North Ventucky amount to a bowl of Beans?

[6924]

Jan er,

Shun forevermore at the bar is the best method of punishment.

[condor]

I believe there is a rule against this.

Jeff Johnson did it during a Cal 20 National Championship regatta @1985 and the rule writers made a rule against such behaivior. In Johnsons case he was leading the regatta and he broke off the windward leg he was winning and went and camped on the boat that was second in the series that was on the downwind leg. He harrased the boat and cut the leeward mark to flagrantly slow them down. On their next leg even.

Because the regatta had a throwout, Johnson figured if the second place series boat got a bad enough finish, he was assured not having to sail the last race. It was appealed and Johnson was chucked for unsportsmanlike conduct i think.
Now there is a rule against this behaivior. But if i am not mistaken it is only relevant if the bad behaivior boat breaks off their leg.

Wasn't that the issue with Bertrand and Silvestri at the 84 Finn trials? Silvestri had a big lead, so he started early and dumped on Bertrand in the last race, and eventually got tossed for it. Cost him the spot in the Olympics.