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#1 FOP

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 10:15 PM

So we have this yacht, sailed here for one summer and found out that she is fantastic. A desicion was made that we should fix here up RESTORE here back to glory, implement ideas and still keep the spirit of the traditional IOR yacht. I got a pack of drawings, some photos, corresponance between Ron Holland and the yard (Brin Wilson NZ) a letter from Shorty to the guy how owned here for 16 years etc.

In the fall of 2008 we took here out of the water in Gothenburg and put here on a truck with a crane. A friend of mine sold his boat in 2007 and he let us put Flirt in his boat shead in Trollhattan 80 km from work/home...Posted Image one way. Attached a couple of photos showing the transport and Flirt in the shead.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:03 AM

Totally worthwhile project. Ron Holland RULED the IOR.

And I would give my left nut for that boat-barn.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 05:08 AM

Totally worthwhile project. Ron Holland RULED the IOR.

And I would give my left nut for that boat-barn.


Yeah, holy cr*p. That is a nice place to work on a boat in a cold climate. Bet it's heated. Worth the drive if the other choice is working outside in the cold.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:16 AM

"Roll in" into the barn... still a functional boatPosted Image
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I estimated 40-60 h to empty the boat to a shell, it took probably 150-200 hPosted Image
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Inspection of the progress, I had two boatbuiders helping me to build the new cockpit and rectify the rot in some parts of the deck and the transom.
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The old Bukh DV36 is visible through the remains of the cockpit floor, this was the day when we rolled here out to the crane to lift out the ballast and the engine.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:37 AM

I love projects like this. Keep it coming as you go. Oh and good luck , you need it .

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:49 AM

We own a Ron Holland boat, and love it.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 01:17 AM


Totally worthwhile project. Ron Holland RULED the IOR.

And I would give my left nut for that boat-barn.


Yeah, holy cr*p. That is a nice place to work on a boat in a cold climate. Bet it's heated. Worth the drive if the other choice is working outside in the cold.


Working out in the cold isn't even an option in Swedish winter. I just got back from 3 weeks there (near Stockholm) and saw -20C (-4F), though it got up to about 0C when I left. Of course, tons of snow all around as well. They pull their boats every fall because the ice will destroy them otherwise.

That's a really cool looking boat. Good luck with the project!

It looks cold molded, is that correct?

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 10:34 AM

The engine and navstation is almost isolated, a lot of wires, hoses, tanks, hydraulics has gone.
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Engine is out of the boat, oily, dirty but wood is in good condition, entire motor bed is only glued to the hullPosted Image
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The jig for the engine is put in its new location. A lot of work remains before the engine can be reinstalled. Drill for the new bigger shaft, support for the new Aquadrive cardan joint.
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Here is the new engine bed done, painted and new machine feet's 40 and 35 shore for a very soft and vibration free operation.
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Detail of the engine bed.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 10:44 AM



Totally worthwhile project. Ron Holland RULED the IOR.

And I would give my left nut for that boat-barn.


Yeah, holy cr*p. That is a nice place to work on a boat in a cold climate. Bet it's heated. Worth the drive if the other choice is working outside in the cold.


Working out in the cold isn't even an option in Swedish winter. I just got back from 3 weeks there (near Stockholm) and saw -20C (-4F), though it got up to about 0C when I left. Of course, tons of snow all around as well. They pull their boats every fall because the ice will destroy them otherwise.

That's a really cool looking boat. Good luck with the project!

It looks cold molded, is that correct?

Flirt was built in 1981 in NZ as a cold molded design, the wood is Kauri rare today.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 05:33 PM

The engine and navstation is almost isolated, a lot of wires, hoses, tanks, hydraulics has gone.
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Engine is out of the boat, oily, dirty but wood is in good condition, entire motor bed is only glued to the hullPosted Image
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The jig for the engine is put in its new location. A lot of work remains before the engine can be reinstalled. Drill for the new bigger shaft, support for the new Aquadrive cardan joint.
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Here is the new engine bed done, painted and new machine feet's 40 and 35 shore for a very soft and vibration free operation.
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Detail of the engine bed.
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very nice work.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 06:24 PM


The engine and navstation is almost isolated, a lot of wires, hoses, tanks, hydraulics has gone.
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Engine is out of the boat, oily, dirty but wood is in good condition, entire motor bed is only glued to the hullPosted Image
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The jig for the engine is put in its new location. A lot of work remains before the engine can be reinstalled. Drill for the new bigger shaft, support for the new Aquadrive cardan joint.
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Here is the new engine bed done, painted and new machine feet's 40 and 35 shore for a very soft and vibration free operation.
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Detail of the engine bed.
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very nice work.



Thanks dude, another 10 hours has been put in the old "lady"Posted Image today.



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Posted 09 January 2011 - 07:59 PM

Well done mate, keep the pictures coming, everyone loves to read stories like these.

Best wishes with the rest of the rebuild

Cheers
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 08:23 PM

Well done mate, keep the pictures coming, everyone loves to read stories like these.

Best wishes with the rest of the rebuild

Cheers
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A couple of photos showing the fixture for the home made 45 mm drill bit the old man used to drill a new hole for the relocation of the propeller. The photo is very poor quality, used Macro Posted Image
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This photo show the intermediate support for the Aquadrive unit, made of 316 and bolted and glued to the keel plank. We will manufacture a small tunnel for the shaft and Aquadrive, not the best design but a fair compromise. Also the new stair is a bit steep but I guess we will get used to itPosted Image
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 01:00 PM

Well done mate, keep the pictures coming, everyone loves to read stories like these.

Best wishes with the rest of the rebuild

Cheers
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I am impressed by your project, are you sailing with the boat today?

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:54 PM

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Photos from the modification of the steering system, we went from tiller with old fashion sleeve bearings to Jefa spherical roller bearings and a TCE steering wheel 1600 mm diameter.
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This photo is before we started to modify.
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The rudder is in place, quadrant, autopilot, stop brackets etc
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The new Eperspacher heater mounted on its rubber fittings. To the left you can see the chandler bargain I did in Newport while the boat was still there in 2008Posted Image
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The aluminium sub-frame is in place painted and ready to take on the load of the rigPosted Image
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:06 AM


Well done mate, keep the pictures coming, everyone loves to read stories like these.

Best wishes with the rest of the rebuild

Cheers
Mojo



I am impressed by your project, are you sailing with the boat today?



Hi FOP,
Unfortunately I'm on the opposite side of the world to the boat at the moment. Boat is in Australia and I'm in the UK. Haven't used it for a while because of this, but hopefully that will change soon.

Cheers
Mojo

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 02:57 PM

Sweet boat! Thanks for sharing her restoration with us!

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 03:22 PM

Sweet boat! Thanks for sharing her restoration with us!


It is fun to show what is going on with this old boat and it is always nice to get positive feedback, makes the work go a litle easier...

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 03:38 PM

The pictures are great, thanks for sharing. I have to say, you maintain an immaculate work site. When ever I have major boat work underway, it is sheer chaos.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 05:53 PM

Flirt was built in 1981 in NZ as a cold molded design, the wood is Kauri

Wow. Cold moulded kauri?!? You're a lucky, lucky man.


rare today


Just a bit!




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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:35 PM

Flirt was built in 1981 in NZ as a cold molded design, the wood is Kauri

Wow. Cold moulded kauri?!? You're a lucky, lucky man.


rare today


Just a bit!




Hrmm, I need a guitarr or similar to get sufficient amount of veneer to fix some of the damages, searching ebay every day but it seems difficult to getPosted Image

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:14 PM

Wilson built some nice boats. You've got a beauty there.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:33 PM

Here is a short movie from the spring of 2009. Most of the interior is gone and the new cockpit is in place AND some of the old cockpit is still there. The language is Swedish, if you want to see more movies let me know and I will try with English next time.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 09:28 PM

My old man removed the frame holding the keel in place, totally corroded it was not easy to get it out.Posted ImageAttached File  21.jpg   157.85K   753 downloads

In this photo we managed to get it out and Maria is cleaning underneath
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She is ballasted with 650 kg of lead, some of it came out easily but a few heavy once was really stuck in there. You can see pry bar and hydraulic ram needed to get it loosePosted Image
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Details of the job, good thing no rot in the hullPosted Image
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Details
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Cosy hrmmmmPosted Image
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 10:16 PM

I bought her from a salvage company due to "rock contact" outside the city of Boston. The damages wasn't that bad but we deiced to improve the keel structure by adding triaxial fiberglas over the keel plank and make new carbon fiber reinforced pine frames (do not know the word in English) bonded with epoxy.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 10:40 PM

I don't think the way you've installed the carbon fiber is going to do you much good. Using something to bridge those frame members may add more strength than those C/F strips.

It's great you have your father and Maria to help you out!

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:49 AM

Very nice to see the updates with all the photos of the deconstruction and rebuild. Thanks for taking the time to post them!

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:39 PM

Guys! Just a few photos of the stair, bambo epoxy and carbonfiber made in a MDF mould
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I do not know what you call this part of a stair but I guess you recognize it...
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Detail of of it, Maria has put epoxy on it today, will sand it tomorrow and then wait for the varnishPosted Image
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Stay tuned for some photos of the new deck superstructure, will start on that project tomorrow. Hope we can put between 20-30 man hours on FOP and total 40-60 hours this weekend. Next week I will be on businesstrip for rest of the monthPosted Image

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:49 PM

Very nice to see the updates with all the photos of the deconstruction and rebuild. Thanks for taking the time to post them!


My pleasure buddy, I live with this old lady and it is just a lot of fun to share this with all of you guys.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 10:03 PM

I don't think the way you've installed the carbon fiber is going to do you much good. Using something to bridge those frame members may add more strength than those C/F strips.

It's great you have your father and Maria to help you out!


Hi Star Heart, Interesting to hear what you say, before we started to make new frame members I was in close contact with the designer how helped us with the design of the new interior and tons of other issues. I asked him how to make the best frame and suggested some other ideas. Gabriel suggested that we use the wood as a "carrier" and let the epoxy and C/F do the work on top of the wood part of this frame.

When he explained and put it in a theoretical/parctical prespective it made sence to me at least.Posted Image

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 11:33 PM

The two things I would worry about with those frames are the fact that they do not seem to tie into the rest of the structure all that well. Also, I would be a little concerned with taking the carbon out to sharp corners like you have. you may end up seeing some stress concentrations at those points.

By the way, the term for frames like that in English is floors.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 11:34 PM

By the way, its great seeing your progress. I've got a restoration project of my own that I am working on, and it is nice to see another project like this to get inspiration and motivation.

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 05:55 PM


I don't think the way you've installed the carbon fiber is going to do you much good. Using something to bridge those frame members may add more strength than those C/F strips.

It's great you have your father and Maria to help you out!


Hi Star Heart, Interesting to hear what you say, before we started to make new frame members I was in close contact with the designer how helped us with the design of the new interior and tons of other issues. I asked him how to make the best frame and suggested some other ideas. Gabriel suggested that we use the wood as a "carrier" and let the epoxy and C/F do the work on top of the wood part of this frame.

When he explained and put it in a theoretical/parctical prespective it made sence to me at least.Posted Image


OK. Good luck with it then. You did your homework as best you knew how.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 10:32 PM

Great looking project!

Thanks for sharing!

Hurry back from the business trip... want to see more.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 08:33 AM

Beautiful boat, I always wondered where all the kauri trees went to?! keep up the good work and the posts - really enjoying them!

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 11:34 AM

While away in Singapore I got a few photos from the old man, he worked on the boat last weekend to start with the assembly of floor boards and other stuff.
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 04:26 PM

Wow, looks great to me!

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:15 PM

Finally back on the yacht, been away for five weeks and then it took another week or two to get up to speed with Flirt. As always we try to shoot photos of the work we do. Today you will get photos of some of the old and new hardware we have made or refubished for our yacht. Today we spent 16 hours to sand and apply triaxial 400g glasfiber on the deck. Photos will follow.

The old Navtec panel, we still use the pump and guage.
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Here is the new custom made Titanium panel with old pump and guage.
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New mooring cleats also made of Titanium by my good friends Blagisa & Peter.
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I used the old mast fitting but made a new flange capable of handling the foot blocks.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:16 PM

It is black anodized and internally it is lined with Halar, the distance is very narrow and this will probably cause some problems when we will step and unstep the mast every year, normally we do this exercise every year.
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The old halyard blocks.
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Here are the new once bought secondhand Harken and used the sheave and the endfittings, the cover plates are made of Ti.
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OK here do we have the old genua sheet deck blocks.
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Here are one of the new once, home made with Harken sheave, the woodblock will be shaped to give an angle.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:23 PM

Here are just a few photos of details for the runners
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Trail fitting of the aluminium base for the Custom made rope clutches. They will be moulded into the deck and threaded with M8 or M10.
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Freshly blasted prior installation in a beed of epoxy and microballons.
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And now they are installed...
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:10 PM

Just bloody awesome!

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:19 PM

Really enjoy following this thread and the pics. But I shudder to think what your budget for the restoration must be. (Things like custom titanium cleats and hydraulic panels can't come cheap!)

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:24 AM

Nice that the work is appreciated not only by myself and family. It is a great inspiration to share the information with you. We are currently above our budget and I see no possibility to change that, as a matter of fact I miss a couple of boat builders needed to get up to speed and that has a tendency to increase cost even more...:Posted Image The titanium parts are not too bad, I have a friend with a VERY nice shop and they really enjoy making parts for me, at one point they told me to change name of the boat to Titanic Posted Image. Will upload more photos tonight so stay tuned. L

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 03:47 PM

Beautiful job there FOP, Love to see threads like this. I raced on the boat back in the day, you will probably find a few bags of cross cut, narrow panel Hood sails lying somewhere...Boat was a beauty then, nice to see her properly restored and modernized. Shorty was a character!

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:31 PM

Beautiful job there FOP, Love to see threads like this. I raced on the boat back in the day, you will probably find a few bags of cross cut, narrow panel Hood sails lying somewhere...Boat was a beauty then, nice to see her properly restored and modernized. Shorty was a character!



Thanks buddy, lots of old sails... found one G1 with following inscription:

"SHORTY WIN A FEW RACES FOR ME //PHIL B"

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:24 PM

Hi, finally we got started with the work to apply on layer of 400 g glasfiber triax on the deck, I got great help from my kids Fredrik and Mathilda as well as the old man working under deck. We removed 0,7 mm of old, very hard paint, started to sand it but it did not work so we used a simple Bosch heat gun at 250 C and that turned out to be pretty effecient. However, we did not manage to do the entire deck (like always the time ran out faster then our progress). The new glasfiber now also go over the sheer line about 2" and that feels good for the future and I belive also stronger then the old design which did not go over the sheer.

Heat gun + scraper=progress
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Cutting glasfiber
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The wood frame for the deck hatch laminated and WATER TIGHT
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Saturday night finished with the first half of the fore deck
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Posted 09 March 2011 - 09:56 PM

Here are a few photos from the work we did on the mast and boom last year, the work to dismantle all hardware was started in the fall of 2009 and we put the Awlgrip Cloud white paint on in the fall of 2010. This post show a detail of the spreader mounting and then photos from the NDT.


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The NDT showed a few cracks in the masthead and in the gooseneck and vang fitting, the spreader mounting was OK! We welded the damages and I hope that it will be good for another 30 years.

Will upload some photos from the paint job, with the spray booth and the RESULT of our efforts...

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 07:42 PM

Here we have a few photos from the work we did on the spars.

First is the temporary spray booth we made 22 x 4,5 x 2,2 m
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Two fans each capable of 4000 m3/h dont know the cfm

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One of the two wheels my dad made to be able to easily turn the mast while sanding and painting.
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View from inside just minutes before we started to apply first coat...
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First coat applied
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Posted 10 March 2011 - 07:52 PM

Here is the second upload.

This is me with the spray gun, 545 anti corr epoxy from Awlgrip, best primer ever used.
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The finished result, compare with the photos above...
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More details...
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The vang fitting...
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I do not know what you call this but it is the exit for the halyards
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Posted 10 March 2011 - 07:53 PM

Last photo I planned to show you this week.

The old goose neck and the new one made in one piece aluminium.
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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:25 AM

Great thread!

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 12:45 AM

Unbeleivable. So cool.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 05:03 AM

definitely one of the nicer re-habs I have ever seen! nice

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 04:22 PM

Do you think that we might be able to hear you from across the pond when you scratch it the first time? :unsure:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 09:58 PM

Thank you for the encouragement, you will not hear, you will feel it if we hit something :(

I have one question regarding the finish of the hull. I will varnish the hull with Awlbrite and clear 545 anti corr epoxy primer, comments if this is a good and durable paint system is appreciated. I heard somewere that putting a thin glasfiber fabric on the topsides will improve the strength and make the topsides more durable. I would like to learn more about this and typical what type of glasfiber to use.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 02:05 PM

A predecessor?

http://sparkmansteph...r-of-paget.html

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 10:26 PM

Work has been slow this week, Maria and I have just been able to laminate one third of the fore deck, tomorrow I will be there alone since my father is away on vacation and the other family members have other commitments. Here is a bunch of photos from the work we did one year ago on the main alu bulk head and next part will be of the alu frame.



This is the part in the roof after sanding, just before first primer
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Here is the main bulk head with 545 epoxy primer on it, you can also see the fan to evacuate solvents and paint dust, the fan had to much capacity so it sucked the paint to fast out of the narrow compartment I did around the bulk head. Even if I had big filter cloth to get clean air inside.
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Finished result
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 10:46 AM

A predecessor?

http://sparkmansteph...r-of-paget.html



Ed, I learnt that the Trimingham family have had a lot of boats named .... of Paget. Funny that you found this yacht since it show some similarity with the yacht I am brought up with, she is a Sagitta 35 ft, S&S design built by Danish yard Bianca back in 1975. She is still in the family and sailed frequently.
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 11:24 AM

Here are some more photos on the aluminum frame old and new and how we did to improve the fastening of them.


This show what it looked like after removing all interior, you can see the main bulk head without the mast piece. Most of the alu frame is in place except the part in the rear which had to be cut away to get the new cockpit in place. To get the new interior to be comfortable we moved the vertical tubes to sit close to the saloon bulkhead.
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This photo is same just facing forward. Here you can see the tubes conected inline with the chain plate and then moving forward to the forstay chainplate
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This is one of the chainplate for the backstay, original they where like 1200 mm apart but with the new cockpit in place they are probably 2000-2200 mm apart. You can clearly see that water has leaked in here and in this area there was a lot of rot. Since there is also preload from the internal stays the cockpit floor had a concave surface and that collected rain water...
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All tubes is out and Maria is preparing them for painting
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New design of the pipe support holding the alu. frame in place.
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 12:29 PM

Here are a few photos from the repainted and newly installed alu frame

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We had to weld the tubes in place, otherwise impossible to get them in place.
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New pipe support and distance pieces made of Zebrano wood. You can also see the delrin washers used to isolate the 316 bolts from the alu, the chainplate is original but machined to a nicer shape...Posted Image
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Special made T-bolt in 316 installed through deck in a piece of pine.
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 04:36 PM

Here is a couple of shoots of the work we did on the new cockpit as well as the repair on the deck.


This is how the alu frame is attached to the deck.
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Rot, the area around the forstay chainplate was in really bad condition. This was the first part we repaired on the deck.
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The new distance balsa is in place and glued in with epoxy and Aerosil
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The foredeck is repaired...
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Chainplate on portside, the genua track was just screw through the balsa no hardwood, this was also an area with a lot of rot. The bolt head you can see is from the attachment of the main bulkhead.
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 04:45 PM

A few more photos. I checked the entire deck with a moiustre meter and detected several areas with water, especially around deck hardware and chainplates.

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Here is photo of the new hatch frame we will have in the saloon.
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Here is an overview of the deck, maybe you can spot the areas where we have repaired the deck. The orange shack in the back is my most valuable room, hardware to an entire 1-ton yacht... In the background to the right is our shop with band saw and tool chest.
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Posted 26 March 2011 - 05:16 PM

A few more photos. I checked the entire deck with a moiustre meter and detected several areas with water, especially around deck hardware and chainplates.

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Here is photo of the new hatch frame we will have in the saloon.
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Here is an overview of the deck, maybe you can spot the areas where we have repaired the deck. The orange shack in the back is my most valuable room, hardware to an entire 1-ton yacht... In the background to the right is our shop with band saw and tool chest.
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Great job, and that is one hell of a workshop!!!

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:32 AM

Somehow I lost a few photos of the old cockpit and the new one. Here they are;


The first one show a picture from the fall of 2007 when we went to Warrwick RI to check out the boat for the first time. The purpose is for you to see what it looked like back then.
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The shape of the new cockpit is there, we are there to inspect the boatbuilders progress.
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The floor is ready with 6 mm plywood and balsa as core material, on top is a 400g/m2 triax glasfiber fabric. The same will be applied on the side as you can see.
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Here is a photo of the raw new cockpit.
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The finished cockpit, opps no paint I know but it will soon be there, hopfully the floor is tilted enough.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:06 AM

Curious, what was the thinking in the re-design of the cockpit? (or did I miss that earlier up thread?)

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:10 PM

Curious, what was the thinking in the re-design of the cockpit? (or did I miss that earlier up thread?)


Well, there is a couple of reasons, first I have always liked to sail with a steering wheel, I found a good looking wheel and I could get it in any diameter I wanted. Secondly, the space in the cockpit and below is better with the wheel steering. The old design of the cockpit did not allow for any proper table and you entered the saloon to much forward.

What I miss is the simplicity of tiller steering, the accuracy and the space you gain in the cockpit when moored. On top of that you can just imagine the amount of work we have put into the design of the new steering system, all the hours to build it.

First test at the wheel, my dad enjoyed the moment and checked if his feet would fit behind the wheel, it was a concern for us before we got everything in place.
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The new steering wheel, with its converted Lewmar grinder pedistal, custom made shaft, bearing carrier and the home made steering wheel pod
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This is the aft compartment with the quadrant installed, the challange was that the shaft is tapered and machined to get two flat sides, see the photo. The quadrant have a cylindric hole so we had to make a bushing cylindric on the outside and tapered and with two flat sides internally in addition we had to get the entire rudder to the shop to drill for the M20 fasteners.
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Custom made end fittings to the cogbelt you can see the shape of the cog. In the hole we are thinking of using a Dynema rope or some other textile...
Any thoughts if it will be reliable enough with Dynema from pedistal to quadrant?
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End fitting with side plates in position.
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Posted 02 April 2011 - 06:46 PM

going through an old sailing book last night I found a pic of this boat, well it's bow anyway. I could send you the info on the book and a scan of the photo if you would like

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 09:57 PM

going through an old sailing book last night I found a pic of this boat, well it's bow anyway. I could send you the info on the book and a scan of the photo if you would like


Hej,

Pls. send information about this book and if you could scan a photo it would be great Posted Image. Work has been slow the last month or so, to much traveling. I will try to give you some of the motor installation and the process of geting it into the boat.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:04 PM

Here is a shoot from the final assembly of the motor and the paint job I did before I lifted the old Bukh DV36 in place.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 05:37 PM

I'll see if I can get to that next week.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:39 PM

Was she ever sailed to/from/around Bermuda? Previous owner Shorty Trimingham? any updated pics or owners/club groups? I've got a storm damage sister to Anarchy......repair work is slow, maybe I'll get her patched up and floating this summer.....



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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:49 PM

I've spent 40+ years in and around machine and fab. shops.

Very impressive job!

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:51 PM

Was she ever sailed to/from/around Bermuda? Previous owner Shorty Trimingham? any updated pics or owners/club groups? I've got a storm damage sister to Anarchy......repair work is slow, maybe I'll get her patched up and floating this summer.....



I beleive that she did a few Newport-Bermuda races in early part of the -80s. The guy owning here was from Bermuda, believe Trimingham Bros. was a famous department store or similar. Unfortunately Shorty past away in March 2007 so I did never got a chance to talk or write to him. I have a letter from Shorty to the third owner, a gentleman from Boston, this letter indicate that Shorty owned here from 19981-1985. Work has been slow this spring, big changes in the business meaning I have to take a big load of the traveling WW, however I still have like a couple of thousend of photos and will try to upload some video clips with help of my son.

Now to the important stuff, pls upload some photos of your yacht, I love to read and see photos of old IOR boats.

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I've spent 40+ years in and around machine and fab. shops.

Very impressive job!



LarryE, nice to hear that you like the work we do. It turned from a realistic project to a total revamp project were nothing is swept under the carpet. I think that we still have some 1500-2500 h left. I hope I can get up to speed with the project as from late this summer. I will post as often as I can to give you some input on the progress. //FOP

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 12:20 PM

Looking forward to your updates.

I have a 26' boats with a few custom parts, am retired now but miss no having the use of the machine/fab shop.

Keep up the good work!

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 09:00 PM

Looking forward to your updates.

I have a 26' boats with a few custom parts, am retired now but miss no having the use of the machine/fab shop.

Keep up the good work!


I could need a couple of experienced hands to help out with Flirt, come over and spend the summer and you can use all possible facilites we can providePosted Image and we can do some sailing in the S&S boat I own together with my dad and a friend.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 11:15 PM

Would be tempting in Aug. when it's 95 in the shade in Fl.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:06 PM

Work has been soooo slow this spring. Last effort I made on Flirt was to lift the engine in place, a challange even with an overhead crane in the shop since the location is forward of the companion hatch and I did not want to build and scaffolding internally to be able to do the last lift.

First a couple of photos of the original engine from Bukh before refubishing and its location aft in the boat, flywheel facing aft and shaft facing forward with a substantial intermediate shaft and a bevel gearbox.
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Bevel gearbox with double cardan joint and water cooling.
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Details of engine during disassembly.
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Air intake and details of the cylinder head.
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Finally paint is applied and all details is back on. I found a fresh water cooling system on ebay so this is now installed as well.
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Posted 09 May 2011 - 09:18 PM

One more of the engine, I used the original engine with s/n 984 from 1980. Maybe not the best decsision I made on this job but the engine runs beutiful and now with fresh water cooling, new exhaust manifold, double generators etc we will stick with it for a couple of years, I hope...
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My lifting beam 2x8" engine is already inside the boat.
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The frame for the engine with soft anti vibration feet, we will make some additional supports to hold the beams in place before we finish this part of the project.
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Finally in place.
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Posted 28 May 2011 - 10:26 AM

Personally I am back in Singapore for almost two weeks work but finally I have a guy how will help me to finish the galley with drawers (zebrano wood frames and gloss white panels). We are planning to make Corian counter tops but we have not yet decided. What have been realized today but not on this old photo is the stainless steel paneling behind the stove. It is frustrating to have this slow progress, but I guess that all contributions are welcome it just me how is inpatient to finish this project until next year.

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 08:51 AM

I have just found your posts on the restoration of the Flirt of Paget (Spritzer). I built Flirt for myself in aproximately 1980 she was called Spritzer, can't remember the exact year I sold her to Shorty he changed the name to Flirt of Paget She was built for the Admirals cup trials here in Auckland NZ .
Its great to see that she has a proud owner, she was built quickly (16 weeks) we made sure that the structure was light and strong the hull is NZ kauri which is a wonderful boatbuilding timber and extremely durable.
Any information that I can give you that would be of help to your project I am to happy to do so, I did know her very well as the campaign for the NZ trials was a very tight regatta and we put in many hours of preparation I then sailed with Shorty in England, as a crew member
I have looked through your photographs of the work you are doing and have really enjoyed seeing her again
Good Luck with the restoration I will follow with interest

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 09:41 PM

I have just found your posts on the restoration of the Flirt of Paget (Spritzer). I built Flirt for myself in aproximately 1980 she was called Spritzer, can't remember the exact year I sold her to Shorty he changed the name to Flirt of Paget She was built for the Admirals cup trials here in Auckland NZ .
Its great to see that she has a proud owner, she was built quickly (16 weeks) we made sure that the structure was light and strong the hull is NZ kauri which is a wonderful boatbuilding timber and extremely durable.
Any information that I can give you that would be of help to your project I am to happy to do so, I did know her very well as the campaign for the NZ trials was a very tight regatta and we put in many hours of preparation I then sailed with Shorty in England, as a crew member
I have looked through your photographs of the work you are doing and have really enjoyed seeing her again
Good Luck with the restoration I will follow with interest


This is a nice acquaintance, it is very good to have you here. Do you recogonize here and the old parts I have tried to keep, old Bukh engine with s/n 984, the spars must be pretty old and the boom is at least original. Im pretty jealous of the 16 weeks you used to build here, it feels more like 16 years for us... I will try to keep here as light as she was when she was brand new even if we have installed a crusing interior. All bulkheads are made of Honeycomb and glas bonded with epoxy and veneer as skin.


I have one question to you; you used three layers of Kauri each 5 mm thick and laminated ribs internally, during this process you used stainless steel staples to hold everything in place. Over the years of wear and tear as well as sanding several of the stapels are now visible. Do you think I can remove the staples and should I replace them with screws and wood plugs?


I will update with some new photos this weekend and maybe a film or two.


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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:36 PM


I have just found your posts on the restoration of the Flirt of Paget (Spritzer). I built Flirt for myself in aproximately 1980 she was called Spritzer, can't remember the exact year I sold her to Shorty he changed the name to Flirt of Paget She was built for the Admirals cup trials here in Auckland NZ .
Its great to see that she has a proud owner, she was built quickly (16 weeks) we made sure that the structure was light and strong the hull is NZ kauri which is a wonderful boatbuilding timber and extremely durable.
Any information that I can give you that would be of help to your project I am to happy to do so, I did know her very well as the campaign for the NZ trials was a very tight regatta and we put in many hours of preparation I then sailed with Shorty in England, as a crew member
I have looked through your photographs of the work you are doing and have really enjoyed seeing her again
Good Luck with the restoration I will follow with interest


This is a nice acquaintance, it is very good to have you here. Do you recogonize here and the old parts I have tried to keep, old Bukh engine with s/n 984, the spars must be pretty old and the boom is at least original. Im pretty jealous of the 16 weeks you used to build here, it feels more like 16 years for us... I will try to keep here as light as she was when she was brand new even if we have installed a crusing interior. All bulkheads are made of Honeycomb and glas bonded with epoxy and veneer as skin.

I have one question to you; you used three layers of Kauri each 5 mm thick and laminated ribs internally, during this process you used stainless steel staples to hold everything in place. Over the years of wear and tear as well as sanding several of the stapels are now visible. Do you think I can remove the staples and should I replace them with screws and wood plugs?

I will update with some new photos this weekend and maybe a film or two.

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I would trust the epoxy glue, the staples were there to hold the planking together for the initial cure, if the epoxy was to let go I'm sure it would have done so by now

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 11:06 AM

What are the two items sitting on the greeen cushion in the "finally in place" photo?

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 04:37 PM

What are the two items sitting on the greeen cushion in the "finally in place" photo?


It is the control for the POST WAR overhead crane Posted Image it is VERY old but still works...

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 11:17 PM

First post in a while. Workload has been massive this year. Earlier this year I made new tanks for fresh water 320 lit., diesel approx 170 lit and holding tank 80 lit. First photo is of one of the old tanks, filling was done inside the boat.
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This photo show one of the new fresh water tanks with the inspection hatch and the double o-ring groove, not so important on water but holding tank and diesel tank can be worthwhile.
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Detail of the inspection hatch
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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:13 AM

We have spent several days to apply a 400g triax glasfiber on the deck. These photos show some of the work and a sneak peek of the first paint job we have done on the deck (cockpit). I am in the progress to buy a couple of long boards to improve our sanding and to make things straight,
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Approx 5 m2 of glasfiber
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Fred painting
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Posted 20 June 2011 - 05:33 PM

The people feeding you ideas must be professionals.! The mast booth and rotate-er stopped me cold. Having worked on masts in a yard in sunny old Florida, Outside, I was especially impressed with the fan venting.
The Rebuild Metal work you are doing is simply AMAZING!

You will have a beautiful and strong IOR Classic when your done.



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Posted 20 June 2011 - 09:23 PM

The people feeding you ideas must be professionals.! The mast booth and rotate-er stopped me cold. Having worked on masts in a yard in sunny old Florida, Outside, I was especially impressed with the fan venting.
The Rebuild Metal work you are doing is simply AMAZING!

You will have a beautiful and strong IOR Classic when your done.



Posted ImagePosted Image What to say, thank you very much for the positive feedback, it feels great to realize that more people then me appreciate these old boats and the work put into them. I love Flirt and look sooooo much forward to finish this huge project and start to use here. //FOP



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Posted 21 June 2011 - 01:51 AM

Whoa. As an amateur boat fixer with my parents (Kelly Peterson 44), that's one of the best rebuilds ever. It's absolutely gorgeous. That workshop, my god. Probably 90% of the actual boat repair businesses I've seen don't have anything nearly that nice.

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 05:21 AM

Whoa. As an amateur boat fixer with my parents (Kelly Peterson 44), that's one of the best rebuilds ever. It's absolutely gorgeous. That workshop, my god. Probably 90% of the actual boat repair businesses I've seen don't have anything nearly that nice.



Thanks for the encouragement budy, do you have any shoots of the work you do, really enjoy reading about restoration projects...

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Here is a full HD clip on the work we have done inside the boat, showing bulkheads and details of everything, I noticed that in some areas the light from the camera is not good enough and that will be improved for new posts.


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Posted 21 June 2011 - 05:42 AM

Here is a second clip on the work we have done inside the boat, showing kitchen and owners cabin and some other details, enjoy!





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Posted 21 June 2011 - 09:34 PM

Awesome job FOP. Thanks for sharing.

Its nice to see that you are working as I do, on all projects at the same time. :lol:

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:23 AM

Just simply breathtaking detail work. I applaud you on your effort and look forward to future updates.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:27 AM

i had my first taste of keel boat racing on a holland 25. the skipper used to push her to the limit (10+knots every now and then... not bad for the design) i vividly remember a mid race hic-up where we buried the bow on a spinnaker run, and stood the boat on her nose - those behind us thought they were gonna have to stop to pull us out of the water when they saw out rudder clean out of the water! we only lost a little time, and buckled the spinnaker pole... she was a tough little boat! up-wind in 35odd knots she'd out sail young 88s! i sailed on her for a decade or so, and learned a lot, before the owner swallowed the anchor, and i moved to faster vessels. that was about 10 years ago now, but seems like yesterday.


the connection is that she (Quebrada) has been through a couple of owners, but still races, and had been restored to better condition than all those years ago. the effort you have gone to amazes me, and the thought of it makes me shudder!


congratulations!

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 09:38 PM

I found a few shoots from when we moved Flirt from the boat barn back to Gothenburg and the opportunity we had to keep here in a shop close to work.



This is from the "roll out" unfortunately not ready but with a new cockpit and some of the bulkheads in place AND a very naive owner still beleiving that she would be ready the early summer of 2010...
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Preparations, Flirt is on here trailer. Nice row of boat barns?? I am planning to get my own barn next year.
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Minutes from lifting
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One truck for the boat and one for the trailer.
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The equipaqge (six vehicles in total)

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Posted 25 June 2011 - 10:04 PM

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 01:28 PM

Hi FOP,
Great thread, and great job. Congratulations.
By looking at the pictures, the amount of effort and patience going into this lucky boat is evident and awsome.
I think this project would make a good book on boat restoration.
What amazes me most is how things are not rushed. The wheels on the mast to turn and the spray hood is of quality
most people would not bother with or could not do, let alone the job itself.

It would probably be quicker and cheaper to build a new boat and installing available gear, but it wouldnt be nearly as fun and lovely would it?

By the way, do you own a titanium mine? :-)

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 06:51 PM

Hi FOP,
Great thread, and great job. Congratulations.
By looking at the pictures, the amount of effort and patience going into this lucky boat is evident and awsome.
I think this project would make a good book on boat restoration.
What amazes me most is how things are not rushed. The wheels on the mast to turn and the spray hood is of quality
most people would not bother with or could not do, let alone the job itself.

It would probably be quicker and cheaper to build a new boat and installing available gear, but it wouldnt be nearly as fun and lovely would it?

By the way, do you own a titanium mine? :-)


Hi Omer, thanks for the nice words, they are really appreciated and I feel inspired and even more encouraged to follow the restoration path I have started. Of course I am crazy in one sense but one thing lead to another and soon you are deep into something that initially looked like a one winter fixPosted Image what I mean is that I did not plan to go so deep into this 30 year boats just do one major job every winter and sail here the next summer...

Things go back to when I was a kid and just loved to read everything about IOR 1 and 2 ton boats, especially the designs from Ron Holland not to mention Kialoa and Condor stories. Actually I once back in the early eighties had a contract with Mr Holland to build radio controlled 1:10 scale models of his designs and we started with a model of the Swan 391, did not sell that many but it was fun and the boat really sailed well. Maybe I shall contact Ron Holland to get his input on design #118=Flirt of Paget.

Since I am not a professional painter I need all the advantages I can get to achieve a good result. That is the reason for the wheels to turn the mast, I guess a pro could paint from below but I did not want to try that since it is really difficult. Reason for the booth arose since I once painted in our shop without any protection and the entire shop and all worktops, machines etc was covered by varnish, after that I was not the most popular guy in the companyPosted ImagePosted Image

You are right, this is a project driven by the fact that it is fun to restore and I love the history that goes with something that is old, just see the comment above from the builder of this boat and all comments from old crew, just love it.

PS do not own a Titanium mine only a small Russian submarine we use as a donor for the titanium partsPosted Image

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:56 PM

Fop, i feel guilty for enjoying your pictures and for the inspiration they are to me and my project - so i will share one of mine just so you know you are not alone in your love of older boats from the IOR era. This one is one of the 50' from Frers, although by comparison to you what we are doing cannot be called a restoration just a minor refit! Keep up the good effort, its really enjoyable to follow:

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:11 PM

FOP,

Great job, love watching the restoration develop, looking forward to seeingher sailing



Allthe best

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