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#201 Larry

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 09:27 PM

Outward Bound. Caruso/Noble, CYC. C&C 39. 1982 Chicago to Mackinac Race. MHS Section 1, rated 582.5.


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Posted 24 August 2011 - 06:26 AM



Thunderbolt. Rodney Wallace. Excelsior MN. Nelson-Marek 41. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race. 1984 SORC, Class D. rated 32.3 est.


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US Admirals Cup team 1985?


US Sardinia Cup team in '82 w/ High Roler and Scaramouche


Thanks, knew I had seen it somewhere.

#203 Larry

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:14 AM

No Quarter, USMM. Storm Trysail Week, Block Island, Rhode Island. 1983. IOR Class 1.


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Posted 26 August 2011 - 08:26 AM

Cute !!!

Designer ???? (Would say Peterson or Frers or NM)



No Quarter, USMM. Storm Trysail Week, Block Island, Rhode Island. 1983. IOR Class 1.




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Posted 26 August 2011 - 03:01 PM




Arbitrage, in race off Chicago. No information on boat, designer, or crew.


Too unsexy to be a J/N mate :)



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Looks to be a J/N 1ton.


My bad, X-Yachts 1-ton...

Forget the owner's name. Sailed out of Racine Wi. Pic looks to be from the 87 1-Ton NA's.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 08:04 PM

No Quarter, USMM. Storm Trysail Week, Block Island, Rhode Island. 1983. IOR Class 1.


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That headstay has some serious sag in that shot.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 10:31 PM

Fair Lady. 1987 NA One-Ton Championships, Chicago.

Does anybody here have more information?



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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:51 AM

i was fair lady s captain , we brought the boat from france to miami , but during the road transport from miami to tampa the driver went trhough a low bridge , and damage the boat;
we finally could repair the boat working for three days in a row at the boat yard to finaly race
the crew was
hans fog canada
eric duchemin france
paul ricard iansen danemark
jean luc nelias france
florian foglietti france
didier kelly brazil
terry canada

#209 Larry

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:37 AM

Thanks, Didier, Cap'n. Welcome to SA. : )

Here's another photo of Fair Lady from that race. Hope you enjoyed racing here in Chicago.
It looks like you were in first place at that moment.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:22 PM

This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:22 PM

This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

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is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:56 PM

these may have already appeared in Volume 1

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 03:16 PM

these may have already appeared in Volume 1


Bruno Trouble farthest aft on starboard, Eric Duchemin at the tiller.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:12 AM

I have heard conflicting statements that this boat (Fair Lady / Fiere Lady) went on to become MOONRAKER....?

Any info?

Lettering and paint looks the same in this brochure...

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:58 AM

I have heard conflicting statements that this boat (Fair Lady / Fiere Lady) went on to become MOONRAKER....?

Any info?

Lettering and paint looks the same in this brochure...


"Fair Lady" and "Fiere Lady" are two different boats -built some time apart - out of the same mould and with the same core crew.

See PDF in Skew's post above.

Incidentally Bnto racing boats with names including "Lady" reflected a "works" boat, Lady standing as a tribute to Bnto president Mrs Roux.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 09:16 AM

Tx Moody, think we all learned about "lady", nice info.




I have heard conflicting statements that this boat (Fair Lady / Fiere Lady) went on to become MOONRAKER....?

Any info?

Lettering and paint looks the same in this brochure...


"Fair Lady" and "Fiere Lady" are two different boats -built some time apart - out of the same mould and with the same core crew.

See PDF in Skew's post above.

Incidentally Bnto racing boats with names including "Lady" reflected a "works" boat, Lady standing as a tribute to Bnto president Mrs Roux.



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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:47 PM

Your wish is my command.


This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:06 PM

Your wish is my command.



This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.


On the off chance that you are taking requests, would you happen to have the 84 version of the French/France page?!?!

Thanks in advance!!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:09 AM

Your wish is my command.



This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.

What is the chance that two of us have saved the same Admiral's Cup program from 26 years ago? It was a great regatta...

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:55 AM

There was no Admirals Cup in 1984. i attach the 1983 French team. 5*


Your wish is my command.



This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.


On the off chance that you are taking requests, would you happen to have the 84 version of the French/France page?!?!

Thanks in advance!!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:19 PM

This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


Whoops... My mistake. I misread the above attachment....

The text in the attachment makes reference to the 84 One Ton Cup - not AC. It mentions that there was 2 boats named Fair Lady and Faire Lady. Both Beneteau IOR One Tons. Also mentions that there were 2 more boats, both named Coyote?!?! And both of these were also Beneteau IOR One Tons.

Does any of our European buddies know the details or the histories of these? I guess my understanding at this point is that there are two 1984 versions and two 1985 versions. One of each are still in Europe and one of each were sent to North America. Anyone know what the differences are and which were sent over to NA?? Also if names were changed, too what??

I love to hear the history of these boat, and I am sure you can guess why....

Also FYI - one of these are for sail in the SA classifieds (Godspeed) for a pretty reasonable price!

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 01:19 PM

Larry -

Any chance you have any photos of Wizard the Peterson 2ton in her original blue and gold paint? The boat was built at Palmer Johnson in 1976 for Dr. Lou Kagen of Milwaukee and later (around 1980) becase Siren Song in Chicago.

Thanks for all the great memories.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 01:34 PM

Australia II with Swan Lager chute, tender Black Swan following. Newport RI, 1983 America's Cup.
'Men at Work' playing, of course.
Owner: Sir Alan Bond. RIP.
Skipper: John Bertrand.



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Posted 03 September 2011 - 02:30 PM





Arbitrage, in race off Chicago. No information on boat, designer, or crew.


Too unsexy to be a J/N mate :)



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Looks to be a J/N 1ton.


My bad, X-Yachts 1-ton...

Forget the owner's name. Sailed out of Racine Wi. Pic looks to be from the 87 1-Ton NA's.


bruce stone

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 12:37 PM

Celebration. Bruce and Pat Clark. Cook 40. 1983 SORC, Class E. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race.


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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:29 PM

Cute !!!

Designer ???? (Would say Peterson or Frers or NM)




No Quarter, USMM. Storm Trysail Week, Block Island, Rhode Island. 1983. IOR Class 1.




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Posted 07 September 2011 - 06:44 PM


Cute !!!

Designer ???? (Would say Peterson or Frers or NM)




No Quarter, USMM. Storm Trysail Week, Block Island, Rhode Island. 1983. IOR Class 1.




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Yep, Frers 53. That boat certainly got around. Now in Chicago as a charter boat with some aesthetically challenging modifications to the deck.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:24 PM

Your wish is my command.



This is from the '85 Admiral's Cup program. Same boat?

Attached File  scan0001.pdf   815.73K   218 downloads


is there a page for the American team in that program? Would love to see that if possible.


thanks!

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:20 AM

Australia II with Swan Lager chute, tender Black Swan following. Newport RI, 1983 America's Cup.
'Men at Work' playing, of course.
Owner: Sir Alan Bond. RIP.
Skipper: John Bertrand.



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Great shot. But, easy steady, I know he has defrauded a lot of people, but let's not kill Bondy off so quickly. Last time I looked, he was alive and well and still out there scamming.

You are thinking of Warren Jones, the syndicate manager, who passed away in 2002 at 65 years old.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:11 PM

Oops. My apologies. Thanks, you are right.

http://en.wikipedia....nd_(businessman)

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:32 PM

You can find more info about Morningstar 50 (Frers) on the Morningstar Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/MorningStarSailing





Some of the archives

More 50 footer photos please :)


I am not able to post them at the moment but next week I will have plenty of 50's pics for you.


where are the pics..

in the mean time here is a link to morningstar 50' :







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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:43 PM

I have this photo shown to me by a member of the Australia II syndicate.
Sorry, but I cannot recall his name. He was middle-aged and had sandy, curly hair,
though perhaps less than when younger.

Does anybody know the name of this man?
I wish now that I had photographed every one on their team. Sheesh.

I believe the drawing was from a patent application for the concept of a winged keel.



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NOTE: Today, with less expensive digital photography, you can easily photograph everything you see, at low cost,
and share your photos on the internet (and 4x6 prints from snapfish, for example, cost only 9¢ each).


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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:49 PM

Silver Apple of the Moon.
Saw this 1979 Ron Holland on the hard at Beaulieu (UK) this summer.
Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:05 PM

Silver Apple of the Moon.
Saw this 1979 Ron Holland on the hard at Beaulieu (UK) this summer.
Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'.


Colour unchanged !

Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'

the Souter & Sons way !

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:40 PM


Silver Apple of the Moon.
Saw this 1979 Ron Holland on the hard at Beaulieu (UK) this summer.
Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'.


Colour unchanged !

Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'

the Souter & Sons way !


She requires some 'elbow grease' and the current owner is open to offers...

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 11:49 PM

Windborne. Juliaine Jones. M&M. Ericson 36. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race, IOR Section 4, rated 27.3.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 09:43 AM

Silver Apple of the Moon did actually change colour for a while to a deep red, and was renamed Rebel County, even though still owned by the original family (Clayton Love and family?). Not sure when she reverted? A later owner?

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:09 PM



Silver Apple of the Moon.
Saw this 1979 Ron Holland on the hard at Beaulieu (UK) this summer.
Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'.


Colour unchanged !

Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'

the Souter & Sons way !


She requires some 'elbow grease' and the current owner is open to offers...


Hi halfton, do you have more photos from deck and interior of this classic boat. Do you know if she is listed by any broker?
//FOP

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:40 PM

Leda. William Apthorp. CCA. CTM 38. Storm Trysail Week 1983, Block Island RI. MHS Class 3.


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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:56 PM

Larry, chops to you. Some absolutely classic stuff man. the green & gold kites ended up on my old half

Am I OK to steal some? I will give the credits if I use them elsewhere.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:24 AM

Larry, chops to you. Some absolutely classic stuff man. the green & gold kites ended up on my old halfAm I OK to steal some? I will give the credits if I use them elsewhere.



Sure, Grumpy. It's fine to use some of my images, with photo credit, for your non-commercial purposes. : )

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:27 AM

Terina kasih banyak Boss! :D

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 10:56 AM

Storm Trysail Week, 1983. Block Island RI. IOR Class 4.

Left to right...

Limit Move. William A, Wenck Jr. Pequot YC. C&C 40.
Blixtar. Danforth Miller. No affiliation listed. NY40.
Mischief. Rene J. Coudert. IHYC. NA40.
Temptress. Richard Shulman. Barrington YC. C&C 40.



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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:53 PM

Silver Apple of the Moon.
Saw this 1979 Ron Holland on the hard at Beaulieu (UK) this summer.
Cold moulded wood with carbon fibre 'jacket'.



Silver Apple Of The Moon and Golden Apple Of The Sun are two of my favorite boatnames-

The Song of Wandering Aengus



I went out to the hazel wood,

Because a fire was in my head,

And cut and peeled a hazel wand,

And hooked a berry to a thread;

And when white moths were on the wing,

And moth-like stars were flickering out,

I dropped the berry in a stream

And caught a little silver trout.



When I had laid it on the floor

I went to blow the fire aflame,

But something rustled on the floor,

And some one called me by my name:

It had become a glimmering girl

With apple blossom in her hair

Who called me by my name and ran

And faded through the brightening air.



Though I am old with wandering

Through hollow lands and hilly lands,

I will find out where she has gone,

And kiss her lips and take her hands;

And walk among long dappled grass,

And pluck till time and times are done

The silver apples of the moon,

The golden apples of the sun.



William Butler Yeats




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Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:21 PM

It was nice of ol' Willy to write a poem about them.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 05:00 PM

It was nice of ol' Willy to write a poem about them.



Pay him a little and he was yours.



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Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:50 AM

Thunderhead. Paul & Charles Hoffman. STC. Storm Trysail Week, 1983, Block Island. IOR, Class 1.


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Posted 17 September 2011 - 11:15 AM

Infinity. John Thomson. Storm Trysail Club. Holland 47. 1983 Storm Trysail Week, Block Island RI.



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Posted 17 September 2011 - 12:37 PM

I'm not sure if I'm ever going to fall in love with the asses of any of these boats, but the creativity of the color schemes (and Larry's ability to capture them) helps me appreciate the IOR days a whole lot more. Most boats today are just boring in comparison.

Thanks Larry.

Any more pics of Nirvana highly appreciated. Your shots of her vs. Kialoa are ones the current owner has never seen before.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:40 AM

As far as Onetonners are concerned, see this picture of J-41 Oneton Red Gull (ex Road Warrior, John Kolius 1984) and J/V-Oneton ex-container (Container, Udo Schütz, 1987 German Admirals Cup Team)racing on the Ijsselmeer/Netherlands two weeks ago.

Fair Lady. 1987 NA One-Ton Championships, Chicago.

Does anybody here have more information?



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Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:57 AM

Gem. William Ziegler III, Noroton YC. CTM 47 (woofwoof mentioned Nelson Marek in the old thread).

Storm Trysail Week, 1983. Block Island. IOR Class 1, rated 36.9. Scratch sheet says CTM 47.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 01:41 PM

That's so sad..........she could have been converted to fast cruising with electric winches and a bow thruster and reverse A/C.......so many of these beauties die because the population that understands their beauty is getting old and passing on..........

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 03:19 PM

The 47 was a Kaufman, the N/M was a 49 ex brooke ann

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 05:45 PM

Definitively a cute S. Kaufman

Sorry for my ignorance but what means CTM ?

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 06:13 PM

Sorry for my ignorance but what means CTM ?


Short for "custom"

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:17 AM

Gem. William Ziegler III, Noroton YC. CTM 47 (woofwoof mentioned Nelson Marek in the old thread).

Storm Trysail Week, 1983. Block Island. IOR Class 1, rated 36.9. Scratch sheet says CTM 47.


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Is that the boat that then became Samantha and then Dogsled?

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:27 AM

Not a sailing photo, but can anybody tell me what this is. Saw it in Malta a couple of years back, don't think I would volunteer to do the Middle Sea Race in it, but Revolution was not much different in her days.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:49 AM

Looks like a Catalina 37. There is a fleet in Long Beach used for Congressional Cup match racing and other events and another group in Puerto Vallarta, MX.

Not a sailing photo, but can anybody tell me what this is. Saw it in Malta a couple of years back, don't think I would volunteer to do the Middle Sea Race in it, but Revolution was not much different in her days.



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Posted 27 September 2011 - 04:07 AM

:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:13 PM

:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


There was a 37 on the East Coast (of the US) - Western Long Island Sound - Manhasset Bay to be exact. It was sold about three years ago. Last I heard I thought it was going to England, but could have ended up anywhere. It had a bigger rig than the con cup boats and was sailed in PHRF for a while. Not a good boat for anything other than match racing.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 02:49 PM

:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


I just took a closer look at this, it really is a Cat. 37. The giveaway is the forward hatch on the starboard side, the fleet was built that way for starboard roundings. The winches are also distinctive in their layout, by ConCup rules you have to go through a turning block aft of the track (obscured in this shot) and not directly to the large wind forward, so the layout is the same, the small winches behind the track were for the spinnaker sheet. The checkstays and those winches are add-ons. Also, the pit is very distinctive, I did pit for Dean Barker one year and the whole setup is exactly as I remember it.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:29 PM


:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


I just took a closer look at this, it really is a Cat. 37. The giveaway is the forward hatch on the starboard side, the fleet was built that way for starboard roundings. The winches are also distinctive in their layout, by ConCup rules you have to go through a turning block aft of the track (obscured in this shot) and not directly to the large wind forward, so the layout is the same, the small winches behind the track were for the spinnaker sheet. The checkstays and those winches are add-ons. Also, the pit is very distinctive, I did pit for Dean Barker one year and the whole setup is exactly as I remember it.


No doubt about it. There was one on WLIS for a while - brought back painful memories.

How 'bout them Soxies?

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:34 PM

The 47 was a Kaufman, the N/M was a 49 ex broke brooke ann


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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:36 PM



:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


I just took a closer look at this, it really is a Cat. 37. The giveaway is the forward hatch on the starboard side, the fleet was built that way for starboard roundings. The winches are also distinctive in their layout, by ConCup rules you have to go through a turning block aft of the track (obscured in this shot) and not directly to the large wind forward, so the layout is the same, the small winches behind the track were for the spinnaker sheet. The checkstays and those winches are add-ons. Also, the pit is very distinctive, I did pit for Dean Barker one year and the whole setup is exactly as I remember it.


No doubt about it. There was one on WLIS for a while - brought back painful memories.

How 'bout them Soxies?


White Sox are terrible this year.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

The WLIS boat 'Dreamcatcher' was alot worse when owned by the one and only Tai Chang.
I am Mostly refering to the boat condition - setup.

That said, I enjoyed helming her in NYC beercans

Sail safe! 'nuff said.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 03:42 PM

moar photos, please.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 11:46 AM

Just checked my digital library and note that I have an earlier photo of the same yacht dated 24th June 2006, so this yacht has been in Malta for over 5 years. I thought that only 11 Catalina 37s were built and 10 are retained for the Con Cup?
Have just done a google search for "Moondancer RMYC" and it seems the yacht is still winning races in Malta as of 2nd September 2011 and is called a Catalina Capri 37.


:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


There was a 37 on the East Coast (of the US) - Western Long Island Sound - Manhasset Bay to be exact. It was sold about three years ago. Last I heard I thought it was going to England, but could have ended up anywhere. It had a bigger rig than the con cup boats and was sailed in PHRF for a while. Not a good boat for anything other than match racing.



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Posted 28 September 2011 - 12:02 PM

Years ago there was a Catalina Capri 37 sailing out of Detroit. The rig and pole were bumped. The owner was Ken Dibner, a great guy. I sail a little on the boat but I cannot remember its name.

Just checked my digital library and note that I have an earlier photo of the same yacht dated 24th June 2006, so this yacht has been in Malta for over 5 years. I thought that only 11 Catalina 37s were built and 10 are retained for the Con Cup?
Have just done a google search for "Moondancer RMYC" and it seems the yacht is still winning races in Malta as of 2nd September 2011 and is called a Catalina Capri 37.



:lol: How on earth would a ConCup boat find its way to Malta??

Maybe Fracesco Bruni bought one for practice?
But the Royal Malta Yacht Club on the transom confuses the issue somewhat.


There was a 37 on the East Coast (of the US) - Western Long Island Sound - Manhasset Bay to be exact. It was sold about three years ago. Last I heard I thought it was going to England, but could have ended up anywhere. It had a bigger rig than the con cup boats and was sailed in PHRF for a while. Not a good boat for anything other than match racing.



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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:22 PM

The WLIS boat 'Dreamcatcher' was alot worse when owned by the one and only Tai Chang.
I am Mostly refering to the boat condition - setup.

That said, I enjoyed helming her in NYC beercans

Sail safe! 'nuff said.


Dreamcatcher was sold to a new owner in Manhasset Bay and was re-named Arcturus and was upgraded. I spoke with the owner last night and the boat was subsequently sold two years ago to a new owner in Lithuania. Arcturus sailed PHRF for a while. Her owner tried to ascertain how many 37's were built and he said he never got a straight answer to that question.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:35 PM



With several boats nearing the finish line, the boat in the center, nearest the camera, was Moonraker (35119). Her owner was Nils Muench. DYC. This was not a Mac race.
I don't recall Moonraker's designer or length.


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I do believe this is from the One Tons held by Columbia Yacht Club July 1987. I think the boat in the lead is another Beneteau owned by Al Henning (R.I.P) named Poltergeist. His spinakers where always white with just a little red at the shoulders. I did enough time looking up at them whilst trimming them.

Indeed this is the '87 NA's. I think the lead boat w/red shouldered kite is Amazing Potato owned by Peggy & Lyn Comfort (the transom is J/N-ish). Also the Spuds had UK sails while the Geese had Sobstadts until the boat was purchased by Robin who then went w/UK.


Any other pics of the potato? Peg and Lyn were a blast to sail with. I joined the crew for a few regattas shortly after the NAs and did some bow and downwind driving. Lot's of fun.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:19 AM

How often I've heard the call, "Let the bowman drive!" LOL



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Posted 29 September 2011 - 02:56 PM

How often I've heard the call, "Let the bowman drive!" LOL


I think it was more of a "let's use a dinghy sailor to drive downwind", but for a 19 year old kid it was both exhilarating and nerve racking, especially when you have the tactician screaming "No overlap! Shut the door on that f#$%, jam him up into the mark!" and your driving somebody else's very expensive toy.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 04:03 PM

Triumph. Steve Gagne, Bayview YC. C&C 61. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. IOR Section 1, rated 52.9.


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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:21 AM

Triumph. Steve Gagne, Bayview YC. C&C 61. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. IOR Section 1, rated 52.9.


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AKA previously and now "Joli". If I am looking at the pic correctly it looks like it had the previous/older rig in it too.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:49 AM

57' Desperado.


This brings back some old, frightening memories. I was on her last ride.
Is John Miller still around?

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:06 AM

Gem. William Ziegler III, Noroton YC. CTM 47 (woofwoof mentioned Nelson Marek in the old thread).

Storm Trysail Week, 1983. Block Island. IOR Class 1, rated 36.9. Scratch sheet says CTM 47.


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burnsed mentioned that she met her ultimate fate, scrapping, near Galveston after donation.

First big boat I ever took my future bride on. Fun program.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:09 PM


Triumph. Steve Gagne, Bayview YC. C&C 61. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. IOR Section 1, rated 52.9.


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AKA previously and now "Joli". If I am looking at the pic correctly it looks like it had the previous/older rig in it too.

I helped deliver Triumph from Florida to Detroit in the spring of '83 and I think the new rig went up after the Mac races, so yes that is likely the old rig (new rig had 3 sets of spreaders?) I saw the new version "Joli" at Bayview a year or so ago. What a great restoration and nice to see these old girls treated well.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:37 PM

Thanks for the kind words Skew. As you mentioned; the newer rig is a triple spreader built by Offshore and is 9 foot taller then the one pictured in Larry's photo.

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AKA previously and now "Joli". If I am looking at the pic correctly it looks like it had the previous/older rig in it too.

I helped deliver Triumph from Florida to Detroit in the spring of '83 and I think the new rig went up after the Mac races, so yes that is likely the old rig (new rig had 3 sets of spreaders?) I saw the new version "Joli" at Bayview a year or so ago. What a great restoration and nice to see these old girls treated well.



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Posted 03 October 2011 - 06:15 PM

Joli, Ive seen that seawall before... That is one tall rig.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 11:24 PM

As far as Onetonners are concerned, see this picture of J-41 Oneton Red Gull (ex Road Warrior, John Kolius 1984) and J/V-Oneton ex-container (Container, Udo Schütz, 1987 German Admirals Cup Team)racing on the Ijsselmeer/Netherlands two weeks ago.


Fair Lady. 1987 NA One-Ton Championships, Chicago.

Does anybody here have more information?



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Good God, that's dredging up some ancient history--did time on Road Warrior, then Lorimar in the late 80's. I am beginning to feel like an old shit.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 05:35 PM

Good God, that's dredging up some ancient history--did time on Road Warrior, then Lorimar in the late 80's. I am beginning to feel like an old shit.



I remember one morning of the BYC Mack start watching Brian Keith and co trying to patch up a hole in the bow of Lorimar--some chick in a small Sea Ray or some such was backing up and put the out-drive unit into her...

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:52 AM

We found evidence of that hole when we restored the boat here in the Netherlands two years ago, it was just tape applied to the hull and faired over on both sides, really weird. Today she looks like this.


Good God, that's dredging up some ancient history--did time on Road Warrior, then Lorimar in the late 80's. I am beginning to feel like an old shit.



I remember one morning of the BYC Mack start watching Brian Keith and co trying to patch up a hole in the bow of Lorimar--some chick in a small Sea Ray or some such was backing up and put the out-drive unit into her...

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:03 AM

Really nice shot !!

Did u got the boat with this head rig or did you fit it ?



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We found evidence of that hole when we restored the boat here in the Netherlands two years ago, it was just tape applied to the hull and faired over on both sides, really weird. Today she looks like this.[quote name='Brian' timestamp='1317749758' post='3424163']
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:47 AM

As far as I know "Road Warrior" always carried the masthead rig as do most of the other J-41s. As mentioned earlier in this thread there seem to be only one fractional rigged J-41 called "Alathea", later "Aja", which was reported to be a little slower than the mastheads. Here´s another shot [quote name='chorus1' timestamp='1317805391' post='3424859']
Really nice shot !!

Did u got the boat with this head rig or did you fit it ?

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 02:20 PM

As far as I know "Road Warrior" always carried the masthead rig as do most of the other J-41s. As mentioned earlier in this thread there seem to be only one fractional rigged J-41 called "Alathea", later "Aja", which was reported to be a little slower than the mastheads. Here´s another shot


As Lorimar she always had a MH rig.

I seem to recall the initial fix was duct tape for the hole... Apologies, but it made me laugh a little to hear that the "permanent" fix was faired in tape.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:51 PM

Lobo. Wolfson/Freund. Columbia YC. G&S 34. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. IOR Section 6, rated24.5.


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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

Lobo. Wolfson/Freund. Columbia YC. G&S 34. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. IOR Section 6, rated24.5.


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Where's Pick?

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:29 PM

Hey Larry: Can you through up a few Moonracker shots for Nils?

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 05:38 PM

Lightning. Boltz/Logeman. Columbia YC. Islander 36. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. MHS Section 4, rated 615.1.


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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:56 PM

Lightning. Boltz/Logeman. Columbia YC. Islander 36. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. MHS Section 4, rated 615.1.


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My "spider sense" tells me NOT to zoom in on this one......

lol

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 06:10 PM

Wildfire. Wildfire Syndicate. BPYC. C&C 33. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. MHS Section 5, rated 627.1.


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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:59 PM

Wildfire. Wildfire Syndicate. BPYC. C&C 33. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race. MHS Section 5, rated 627.1.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 02:44 PM

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:09 PM

Celebration. Cook 40. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. IOR Class E, rated 30.8.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 08:23 PM

Celebration. Cook 40. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. IOR Class E, rated 30.8.


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Here is Celebration as of this April. Seen at Cove Marina in Norwalk CT

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Also the Container:

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:00 PM


Celebration. Cook 40. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. IOR Class E, rated 30.8.


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Here is Celebration as of this April. Seen at Cove Marina in Norwalk CT



Also the Container:

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Same guy own the Lotus Esprit too? Dude's living in his own time warp!

#298 Showtime

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 10:18 PM



Celebration. Cook 40. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. IOR Class E, rated 30.8.


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Here is Celebration as of this April. Seen at Cove Marina in Norwalk CT



Also the Container:

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Same guy own the Lotus Esprit too? Dude's living in his own time warp!


She was for sale last year on Craigslist for $5000. Friend of mine hopped on board and I guess she was rather trashed.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 11:17 PM

Hey all,

Look at what's docked at Lisbon...

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And also remembered this old warhorse:

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:14 AM

Love those hydraulics!!!!

Now which tap did what in the dark.
Doesn't matter the oil has all leaked all over the cockpit and now nothing works.

Makes me feel old.

TUBBY




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