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[Larry]

To celebrate my 70th birthday today, I'll post one of my finest photos of Liberty.




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[cms]

Happy Birthday, Joyeuse Anniversaire.
Keep them coming, thanks.

[Steam Flyer]

That is a GREAT pic of LIBERTY... the Twelves have such graceful proportions! I felt back then that LIBERTY was one of the least pretty but this is the perfect angle.

And Happy Birthday wishes from here too

FB- Doug

[davidprobable]

Ranger! Yes another C&C 61. I had forgotten about that one. Sassy/Brassy, Joli/Triumph/Joli, Sorcery, Ranger. Were there any others?

Helisara............Rainbow............Grampus.............

[dain bramage]

Larry, love your pictures.
Happy birthday!

[usa 917]

Happy bday great pic of liberty. Anyone know where liberty sits today, heard its overseas but haven't seem her since she lost the cup.

[Slick470]

Happy Birthday Larry! Always enjoy your photos.

[chorus1]

looks like a bilge on port side (Upwind) ....
Shadow on the shot or reality ??????????????

[Larry]

Hi, chorus1. If you are referring to the photo of Liberty,
her lower port side just looks wet to me, probably tacked shortly before.
There is a shadow toward the stern section.

The port side has not been edited except to remove two tiny dust specks that were on my 54x70mm negative.

I'm told that Liberty is in Newport, but I have no more info at this time.
I'm checking further, will report back when certain.

[Bob Perry]

Happy birthday Larry. That is a beautiful shot.

[Tucky]

Happy Birthday Larry, thanks for all the pictures and the thread.

[@last]

Ranger! Yes another C&C 61. I had forgotten about that one. Sassy/Brassy, Joli/Triumph/Joli, Sorcery, Ranger. Were there any others?

I sailed on one called Robon, it was chartered by the Morton family and renamed Brigadoon, did some sailing in Narragansett Bay, Annapolis and the Bermuda Race, all in mid-70's?

To the list I think I would add Helisara/Kohinoor, not sure what it is called now but a ketch version that was once called Barbara's Song(slighly different deck), a stretch version (66') originally called Phantom and I think in the last year or so there was one for sale in the Med, not sure what is was/is/was originally called. Thanks for posting Larry, they are really beautiful boats

[tabman]

Happy belated birthday Larry!

Thanks for all the great shots, even though they make me feel a bit old!

Tom

[Larry]

Today I heard that Liberty is in the Med but source was not sure either, so I still do not know.

[Joli]

Happy birthday and thanks for sharing all your wonderful photos.

[Larry]

Motivation. Garrett & Hirshberg. NM 45. 1983 SORC, Class C, rated IOR 35.6. Miami to Nassau Race.




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[Larry]

Lady Be. F. Chalain, France. Frers 46 (Scratch Sheet says 44'). St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race, Class C, rated IOR 35.2.




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[Mr. Starbuck]

cool shot. Thanks for posting.

[laserandy]

Motivation. Garrett & Hirshberg. NM 45. 1983 SORC, Class C, rated IOR 35.6. Miami to Nassau Race.




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I remember this boat from the photos at the bar at CRYC, anyone remember who owned it?

[moody frog]

Lady Be. F. Chalain, France. Frers 46 (Scratch Sheet says 44'). St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race, Class C, rated IOR 35.2.

A nice pic to the memory of François Chalain, the man who dreamt, started, master-minded and ticked all boxes of Beneteau sailing lines, from the mid 70s to the early days of this century.
Little known but a true giant of the sailing industry.

[Larry]

Motivation. Garrett & Hirshberg. NM 45. 1983 SORC, Class C, rated IOR 35.6. Miami to Nassau Race.




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I remember this boat from the photos at the bar at CRYC, anyone remember who owned it?

laserandy...

In one of the information sheets, I found owner listed as Ed Lorence, Torrance CA. But scratch sheet says Garrett & Hirshberg. Not sure of reason for inconsistency, and a yacht club is not mentioned in either source.

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 dockside photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[sailman]

Some Old AC 1980 dockside photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

That spot of Courageous is now full of slips, Bowen's Wharf. Great coffee shop at the head of the pier, rooms for rent above that as well.

[Larry]

Welcome to SA, Paul.

Nice black and white photos you took at the docks at Newport.
Nice to see some photos up close and personal with crew.
What was the one fellow looking at through a magnifying glass in the third photo?

Perhaps somebody here can identify the guys in your pics.

[Ben de Ruyter]

Lady Be. F. Chalain, France. Frers 46 (Scratch Sheet says 44'). St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race, Class C, rated IOR 35.2.




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Lady Be is now sailing in Holland

[CVB93566]

Happy belated birthday Larry. Sorry I wasn't around earlier.

[longy]

Re Motivation: Ed Lawrence was the sail maker/pro on board, no ownership share. The three NM 45 sisterships barely made it to the SORC, the last one was being finished during the series/. The outgassing of styrenes etc was so bad the crewe slept on deck, & avoided going below for any length of time. One had the mast step structure collapse, one had the quadrant detach from the rudder post (only attached by sheet metal screws), can't remember what happened to the third boat. They were quick & could have won class if they had held together.
The boat I was on, Secret Love, was slow off the wind (for the class) due to a short waterline - so for the Miami - NASSAU RACE (BREEZY DOWNWIND ACROSS THE STREAM) our start tactics were to stay glued to her transom to get a tow. Worked great for a couple of hours until we muffed a spi change & fell of the back.

[ExOmo]

Anyone know of the current 'Motivation' ? It was down in SoCal for quite a while and hopefully well past it's styrene years...

[PMello]

Welcome to SA, Paul.

Nice black and white photos you took at the docks at Newport.
Nice to see some photos up close and personal with crew.
What was the one fellow looking at through a magnifying glass in the third photo?

Perhaps somebody here can identify the guys in your pics.

The guy with the magnifier was just spoofing for a Japanese journalist that was interviewing the crew. And in keeping with SA tradition, do you think the guy chatting up the lady got to take off his Line7's that night?

[House Salad]

Welcome to SA, Paul.

Nice black and white photos you took at the docks at Newport.
Nice to see some photos up close and personal with crew.
What was the one fellow looking at through a magnifying glass in the third photo?

Perhaps somebody here can identify the guys in your pics.

The guy with the magnifier was just spoofing for a Japanese journalist that was interviewing the crew. And in keeping with SA tradition, do you think the guy chatting up the lady got to take off his Line7's that night?

I thought the guy with the magnifying glass was DC. Maybe not though. As for the Line 7's, well if you had 'em you fluanted them.

[sledracr]

What was the one fellow looking at through a magnifying glass in the third photo?

Judging from the direction of the shadows, he might have been trying to light a fire on the back of his mate's hand....

[sledracr]

I thought the guy with the magnifying glass was DC. Maybe not though.

Definitely not DC. I'm going to guess JW Wright and {Don? Ron?) Kohlman

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[Mr. Fixit's brother,, Mr. Fixit]

I thought the guy with the magnifying glass was DC. Maybe not though.

Definitely not DC. I'm going to guess JW Wright and {Don? Ron?) Kohlman

Maybe Kyle Smith with the lense..

[Larry]

Here's another photo of Motivation after start of Miami to Nassau Race, 1983 SORC.

Motivation. Garrett & Hirshberg. NM 45. Class C, rated IOR 35.6.




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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

One of a sequence of five. Clipper getting wet. Motor drives were great!

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[Bob Perry]

Pmello:
You have one photo of two guys on a big lawn working on a sail. I think I have met the guy on the left in San Fran. Would you happen to know the name of that guy. I think if I squint hard it might come to me but it was a few years back.

[HHN92]

Pmello:
You have one photo of two guys on a big lawn working on a sail. I think I have met the guy on the left in San Fran. Would you happen to know the name of that guy. I think if I squint hard it might come to me but it was a few years back.

Looks like Conn Findlay, DC's Tempest crew from 1976. Sailed on Freedom that year.

edit: not sure about the spin with 26 on it, as that is a Courageous spin and Freedom was 30. Unless that happened to be a '74 photo, but I would not question PMello over his pic. Maybe a borrowed chute?

[Bob Perry]

92:
Exactly. Now I remember the name. Conn Findlay.
He gave me instructions on how to row a shell at Tinsley Island..
Thanks.

[ease hike trim]

My guess for the guy with the lens was maybe Sam Wakeman...the eyes look the same, just lengthen the eyebrows 40 years...

[tizak]

Definitely Conn - sailed with him on Baruna in S.F. in the late 60s. Amazing guy. Was a multi-medal winning Olympic rower. As a big, skinny 17 year old I was invited to spin the handles opposite Conn. He made dust of me and many others.

Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Conn_Findlay

[ease hike trim]

Agreed that the guy banding the kite is Conn Findlay...I am talking about the guy holding the magnifying glass to the coffee grinder linkage in the earlier photo.

[Somebody Else]

Here's another photo of Motivation after start of Miami to Nassau Race, 1983 SORC.

Motivation. Garrett & Hirshberg. NM 45. Class C, rated IOR 35.6.

Ben Garrett? Newport Beach, CA?
Had a Santana 25 Quarter-Tonner in 1971 or 1972 named "Victory"? (Woof!!)
The name on the side was in that exact same style.

[Mr. Fixit's brother,, Mr. Fixit]

I am certain that the man standing furthest back in this crowd is Kyle Smith, grinder from New Orleans. And I'm pretty sure he's the same guy holding the magnifying glass.

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[~HHN92~]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

The guy in the middle pic with the beard looks like a the one who was doing a repair on Clipper's stern in my video from 1980, talking about all the contact that was going-on. They did not name him, though.

This is good stuff, keep it coming!

[PMello]

A big thanks everyone trying to figure who's who. The guy with the beard is Kim Roberts. I worked for him when he was at C&C Yachts (83 or 84 ish). One of the really good guys. I was hoping the a look back would put a smile on everyones faces, especially the crews.

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[PMello]

A big thanks to everyone trying to figure who's who. The guy with the beard is Kim Roberts. I worked for him when he was at C&C Yachts (83 or 84 ish). One of the really good guys. I was hoping the a look back would put a smile on everyones faces, especially the crews.

Another one of Kyle Smith...

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[P_Wop]

I am certain that the man standing furthest back in this crowd is Kyle Smith, grinder from New Orleans. And I'm pretty sure he's the same guy holding the magnifying glass.

Third from the right is definitely the extraordinary Jack Sutphen.

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

Yup, I think your right!

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[sledracr]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

Yup, I think your right!

Ah, the old "WP" pullover shells, made about 3 blocks from where I lived in Newport Beach. Very 1980s. Random trivia, the breast pocket was specifically designed to hold your Heineken securely during Beercan race maneuvers....

[some dude]

I thought it was sized to fit a Lowenbrau? Still have one. Doesn't fit any more.

[Larry]

I always appreciated Ted Hood's trim and Robin's performance over the years.

Robin. Ted Hood. HOOD 51. 1984 SORC, Boca Grande and Return. Class C, rated 33.7.




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[Bob Perry]

Me too.
Thanks Larry.

[Steam Flyer]

Not what most here would consider a racing boat, but the sail trim is perfect.

Thanks once again Larry

FB (always!)- Doug

[Tucky]

That could go in the dictionary for "symmetrical spinnaker".

Just sayin'.

[Somebody Else]

I thought it was sized to fit a Lowenbrau? Still have one. Doesn't fit any more.

You still have a Lowenbrau? Awesome!
Did the bottles get bigger and that's why it won't fit in the ol' WP?
I hear that glass can swell up with age...

[Larry]

Victory. Victor J. (and Linda) Cribb. Homestead FL. Frers 48. 1984 SORC Class B, rated IOR 37.3. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race.





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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[chorus1]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

On the third "what a cute boy Brunoooooooooooo " lol

[chorus1]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

The skin of this kind of mast was not so smooth, look at the photo's reflection

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[Left Hook]

Paul, these are some fantastic photographs. Thank you.

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

There are 6 Twelves in the Cove Haven shot...

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

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[HHN92]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

Rives Potts in photo #3, current owner of Carina and doing well on the racecourse with a 40 year old boat.

[timmytwinstay]

92:
Exactly. Now I remember the name. Conn Findlay.
He gave me instructions on how to row a shell at Tinsley Island..
Thanks.

Conn was probably the best person to get rowing tips from becasue he could row anything well. He once rowed a large whale gusher pump in the hanging locker of the S&S ULDB Sirona, all the way from Rebecca Shoals to Lauderdale. He was also the warmest person on the boat (there was ice on the lawn in St. Pete that morning).

[Larry]

Razzle Dazzle. Ted Irwin, Clearwater FL. Irwin 42. 1984 SORC, Class E, rated IOR 31.6. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race.




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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 dockside photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

Why 359 downloads to the guy up the mast photo? It's by far the most popular photo. What's the reason?

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello
Who is Ted talking to?

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[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello

I don't need no stinking finite element analysis...

Those are Newport Shipyard workers in the foreground.

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[~HHN92~]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello
Who is Ted talking to?

John Rousmaniere?

[PMello]

Some Old AC 1980 crew photos. ©1980 Paul J Mello
Who is Ted talking to?

John Rousmaniere?

Frank B. Lawson Jr of the AP (confirmed)...

[thornapple]

That would be Britt designing spreaders on the fly….

[tabman]

That would be Britt designing spreaders on the fly….

Huh, I thought that looked more like Ben Lexcen (Robert Miller). . . but I may be wrong, it was a long time ago.

[PMello]

That would be Britt designing spreaders on the fly….

Huh, I thought that looked more like Ben Lexcen (Robert Miller). . . but I may be wrong, it was a long time ago.

your right it is Ben Lexcen (Robert Miller)

[thornapple]

my bad.

[chorus1]

Anyone to recognize on this famous cute hull ?

[sailman]

Anyone to recognize on this famous cute hull ?

Is this a Trick question?

[~HHN92~]

In one of my AC videos OS talks about how " the bows (of the 12m's) have remained basically the same since Vim, the sterns have changed quite a bit....."

This was in reference to Enterprise and the changes from Courageous.

[Larry]

Aggressive. I have no information on this boat anymore. Please assist with all of the details.

This photo was taken in Chicago and may have been at the time of the North American One Ton Championships in 1987.




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[@last]

Aggressive. I have no information on this boat anymore. Please assist with all of the details.

This photo was taken in Chicago and may have been at the time of the North American One Ton Championships in 1987.




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Looks like a J/N 40-Wiggers ala Quick Willy and other sisters?

[JoeO]

Aggressive. I have no information on this boat anymore. Please assist with all of the details.

This photo was taken in Chicago and may have been at the time of the North American One Ton Championships in 1987.




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Looks like a J/N 40-Wiggers ala Quick Willy and other sisters?

Yep, a J/N 40. But I don't think a Wiggers build - perhaps French, owned by Frank Piku from Bayview YC. Pic definitely looks like '87 1-Ton NA's in Chicago.

[sailingbeme]

Razzle Dazzle. Ted Irwin, Clearwater FL. Irwin 42. 1984 SORC, Class E, rated IOR 31.6. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race.




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Anyone know what ever became of Razzle Dazzle? Always admired the lines of this Irwin design.

[skew]

Aggressive. I have no information on this boat anymore. Please assist with all of the details.

This photo was taken in Chicago and may have been at the time of the North American One Ton Championships in 1987.




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Looks like a J/N 40-Wiggers ala Quick Willy and other sisters?

Yep, a J/N 40. But I don't think a Wiggers build - perhaps French, owned by Frank Piku from Bayview YC. Pic definitely looks like '87 1-Ton NA's in Chicago.

That was the former Sprint, no? John Stephen's boat from BYC. A J/N one ton, ala Diva.

[jhc]

That is a great photo! Looks like Ben is pointing at a failed spreader root, and the replacement is being fabricated.

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[Larry]

France 3. Skipper: Bruno Troublé. 12-Meter. 1983 America's Cup.
The syndicate was financed by Yves Roussert-Rouard who had purchased the boat from Marcel Bich who had financed the first four French challenges.




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[FINS]

Aggressive. I have no information on this boat anymore. Please assist with all of the details.

This photo was taken in Chicago and may have been at the time of the North American One Ton Championships in 1987.




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Looks like a J/N 40-Wiggers ala Quick Willy and other sisters?

Yep, a J/N 40. But I don't think a Wiggers build - perhaps French, owned by Frank Piku from Bayview YC. Pic definitely looks like '87 1-Ton NA's in Chicago.

That was the former Sprint, no? John Stephen's boat from BYC. A J/N one ton, ala Diva.

This is the old SPRINT from Detroit. Yes a J/N ! ton owned by Frank. nick name Chicken Hawk

[Pitbull]

 teats.jpg   5.86K   2 downloads1st off..been a lurker for years...but here is the obligatory pic of your GF/Wife's tits. So now fuck off and let me ask a question.
I would like to know if anyone has any info or pictures of Tatoosh, the Frers 47, built at Minnefords in 77' I think, and was owned by Bob Hutton. It won the 1980 Sardinia cup w/ Merry Thought, and Arcadia.

[Larry]

Flirt of Paget. D. Trimingham. Paget, Bermuda. Holland 40. 1984 SORC, Class F. Rated 30.0. Boca Grande and Return.




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[forss]

Flirt of Paget. D. Trimingham. Paget, Bermuda. Holland 40. 1984 SORC, Class F. Rated 30.0.

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same boat in fix it anarchy?
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=117372&st=300

[cms]

Someone was looking for pics of Flirt, ex Spritzer, built in NZ from kauri for the AC trials in 1980 (AC 81). Swuzzlebubble, Wee Willie Winkie (Epiglass NZ / Epic Lass) and Inca (Marac) got selected.

Flirt was one of a string of XXX of Paget boats owned by the Trimminghams, Shorty in this case.

[Trovão]

Flirt of Paget. D. Trimingham. Paget, Bermuda. Holland 40. 1984 SORC, Class F. Rated 30.0.

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same boat in fix it anarchy?
http://forums.sailin...c=117372&st=300

Flirt of Paget. D. Trimingham. Paget, Bermuda. Holland 40. 1984 SORC, Class F. Rated 30.0.

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same boat in fix it anarchy?
http://forums.sailin...c=117372&st=300

yeah.

[Larry]

Poltergeist. Lester A. Henning. Former Commodore, Columbia YC, Chicago. Later of Racine YC. RIP, Al, Dana, and Joel.


http://www.racineyac...ng_memorial.htm




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[dolphinmaster]

Razzle Dazzle. Ted Irwin, Clearwater FL. Irwin 42. 1984 SORC, Class E, rated IOR 31.6. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race.




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Anyone know what ever became of Razzle Dazzle? Always admired the lines of this Irwin design.

Anyone know who helped draw those lines you like? Was Bruce Kelly still there when Raz Daz 2,(above) was drawn?