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#1 opusone

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:01 PM

Any info on this boat - it appears to be winning its class (Block Island) by quite a margin with a 1.259 IRC rating. Could not find any info on Kers web page.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:18 PM

daily sail

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:39 PM

Anyone have any real clue how much $ w/ sails up?

1 to 1.5m ?

I know, I know, if I need to ask....
Just wondering.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 05:21 PM

but FUGLY


are you mad?:huh:

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 06:17 PM

Really, cause me thinks it's hot.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 06:26 PM

its cool, but FUGLY

I guess perfect ultra light air conditions for her so far this week.


Conditions were 8-12 on Monday (R1) and 12-15 yesterday (R2&3)

It looks pretty cool and very fast, they have been launched during every race.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 07:29 PM

its cool, but FUGLY

I guess perfect ultra light air conditions for her so far this week.


Fugly? Are you for real!?! What kind of boat do you find sexy?

Surely it must be a IOR warhorse… (nothing against IOR’s)

Please do tell because I’m very intrigued to know.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 07:49 PM

I think that is a fine looking boat. What's not to like? It looks pretty much like a small TP52. Besides if you spend all day behind it all you are going to see is the transom anyway and the further away they get the better that transom is going to look.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 07:59 PM

They are racing very well. Light air machine....and it looks sweet too

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 09:15 PM

Reminds me somewhat of a TS2 one metre...its true, the RC guys really are 15 years ahead... :lol:

http://www.ts2-iom.e...73/Default.aspx

This one is even the right colour ;) http://www.ts2-iom.e...ept 2007024.jpg

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 10:42 PM

Boat is ridigulous...FUGLY? I think not.

Good on them for racing hard.

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Posted 22 June 2011 - 11:52 PM

Fugly?... When you are doing 12 kts DW and one of these new Kers come past you at 20+ kts crew smiling like cheshire cats, thats when I thought to myself, I'm on the wrong boat!

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 12:14 AM

Glad to see they didn't make the same mistake as they did with the old Ptarmigan. Great looking boat.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 08:41 AM

I'd definately ride one hard and put it away wet.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 11:27 AM

Good to see it doing well in the light - would have thought it will be even better in breeze when all the other leadmines are just digging holes in the ocean. Not very original with the colour though.

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:07 PM

Glad to see they didn't make the same mistake as they did with the old Ptarmigan. Great looking boat.

That was my first thought

Good to see it doing well in the light - would have thought it will be even better in breeze when all the other leadmines are just digging holes in the ocean. Not very original with the colour though.

I am convinced there is some 500 gallon tank of blue paint somewhere in NZ that everyone dips from for pennies a gallon

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 03:58 PM

Fugly?... When you are doing 12 kts DW and one of these new Kers come past you at 20+ kts crew smiling like cheshire cats, thats when I thought to myself, I'm on the wrong boat!


Exactly!!!!!

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 04:40 PM

its cool, but FUGLY

I guess perfect ultra light air conditions for her so far this week.


You need your fuggin eyes checked newbie!

That's sex on a stik!!!

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:07 AM

Raced against her yesterday, very fast in the light. We owe her time under IRC on the Carkeek and she smoked us over the line. Narrow as hell at the waterline, very flared topsides, almost Cone of Silence flared for much of the length of the hull. Lovely boat.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:37 AM

The real story is Mr Clean was seen on the lawn at NYYC with a gin and tonic talking to guys in blue blazers, and he didn't burst into flames. What would Lesbian Robot say?

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:51 AM

Gin and fucking Tonic? My reputation is ruined! Next you'll say I was drinking a virgin daquiri.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:26 PM

Gin and fucking Tonic? My reputation is ruined! Next you'll say I was drinking a virgin daquiri.



Ok ok. I made up the G+T part.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 01:47 PM


Gin and fucking Tonic? My reputation is ruined! Next you'll say I was drinking a virgin daquiri.


Ok ok. I made up the G+T part.


So was it a Virgin Daquiri?

Wish I could've been there racing. Looking like a great weekend racing in spite of some light air yesterday.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:36 PM

1130 under AP again. I hope the ESPO - JT shit fight is still going over in the CIYC thread. Got nothing left to read here. Not sure why RC sent us up the bay today andthe others outside. :(

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:45 PM

Gin and Juice, homey.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:48 PM

0.00 here on the ocean. Occasional puffs to 0.5

Boatbuilding going on as Guinness takes advantage of delay to prep for Bermuda

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:47 PM

0.00 here on the ocean. Occasional puffs to 0.5

Boatbuilding going on as Guinness takes advantage of delay to prep for Bermuda


Hope Guinness is using every BN's favourite tool, big orange hammer!

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:33 AM

We ended up dropping everyone off the boat except for 6 to sail in the 4-6 knots of grossness. Then our tactico missed a big, big shift, and went from 3rd to last...I was glad to be one of those dropped on the RIB with lovely Jenn and Franny for that race! That was an awful lot of time and money for two shitty races, but probably a very good practice for the Bermuda.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

Anyone have info on who is picking her up? http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2011/Ker-44-2541463/Portsmouth/RI/United-States

Surprised to see her for sale, perhaps on to a new one?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

That owner is known to build new boats from time to time.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:50 PM

wow....its a hell of a toy

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat

That is some serious depreciation.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:00 PM


boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat

That is some serious depreciation.

And it will depreciate another 40-50% for the next buyer in a couple of years. The buyer after that will get a great toy for not much over $150k in 4 or 5 years from now. That is, if it isn't donated.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

at least he didnt build this one to the IMS rule

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:17 PM

wow....its a hell of a toy

Would have been a perfect step up for you. Great distance racing boat

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:25 PM

i hear ya, but no. 3 kid heading to college next year so.....

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

Loans?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:42 PM

lol, u writing checks?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:47 PM

lol, u writing checks?


Not since I made the terrible decision to upgrade to first class on the way home from India.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

i hear ya, but no. 3 kid heading to college next year so.....


My number 3 finishes this May, same week my number 1 gets married.
Then number 4 off to college in 2014. It never ends until you die.

No 1 says ;'Dad, the place I want to get married is only avail Memorial Day weekend.
I say 'What!? Thats the Block Island Race!
She says yes, I know I;m really sorry.
I said well, if its windy, I might make it back in time.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

greedy little bastards! taking up our time and money-what were we thinking!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:10 PM


lol, u writing checks?


Not since I made the terrible decision to upgrade to first class on the way home from India.

First Class on PIA? So like what does that mean, no livestock in the forward cabin?


I wonder what that works out to in DpPD?
DpPD is Dollars per Pickle Dish.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:44 PM

boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:56 PM


boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?


I was just gunna say... any idea where in Michigan and/or to who?

Looks like a nice boat... hopefully I'll get to see it next year if it's close

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:02 AM



boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?


I was just gunna say... any idea where in Michigan and/or to who?

Looks like a nice boat... hopefully I'll get to see it next year if it's close

Not the same program.
It will be located on Lake Michigan, but I'm not at liberty to say who. Some of the crew post here, so I'm sure when they are ready to announce it, they will.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:52 AM




boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?


I was just gunna say... any idea where in Michigan and/or to who?

Looks like a nice boat... hopefully I'll get to see it next year if it's close

Not the same program.
It will be located on Lake Michigan, but I'm not at liberty to say who. Some of the crew post here, so I'm sure when they are ready to announce it, they will.


Understood, thanks for the info! Beautiful boat.. looking forward to seeing it

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:03 AM



lol, u writing checks?


Not since I made the terrible decision to upgrade to first class on the way home from India.

First Class on PIA? So like what does that mean, no livestock in the forward cabin?


I wonder what that works out to in DpPD?
DpPD is Dollars per Pickle Dish.


I got the option of the chicken tikka or the mutton rogan josh and they had both normal and strong varieties of Kingfisher.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

Is the last one called Promo or something? The IMS design

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:29 PM

This one? 53'. Listing. Someone could have picked up the set. :)

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

Is the last one called Promo or something? The IMS design

Is the last one called Promo or something? The 50 ft IMS design

I hear it was called Promo or something, and was the IMS design.

I hear it was called Promo or something, and was the IMS 50 design.

First time positng Cliffie?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

Too much coffee

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

I have often wondered why folks don't give a little more thought to what they name their boats. You really need to consider what the others are gonna call your boat, not what you call it. For instance, perfect case in point, Promo? Really?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

I have often wondered why folks don't give a little more thought to what they name their boats. You really need to consider what the others are gonna call your boat, not what you call it. For instance, perfect case in point, Promo? Really?


liogthen up Francis!

some boatowners, especially racers, will often incorporate the name of their business into thier boat names

maybe thats the case here

http://promoonline.o...takepledge3.jpg

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:49 PM


boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?

There's a sucker born every day, but twice??

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:03 PM


I have often wondered why folks don't give a little more thought to what they name their boats. You really need to consider what the others are gonna call your boat, not what you call it. For instance, perfect case in point, Promo? Really?


liogthen up Francis!

some boatowners, especially racers, will often incorporate the name of their business into thier boat names

maybe thats the case here

http://promoonline.o...takepledge3.jpg

Don't call me Francis!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:39 PM



I have often wondered why folks don't give a little more thought to what they name their boats. You really need to consider what the others are gonna call your boat, not what you call it. For instance, perfect case in point, Promo? Really?


liogthen up Francis!

some boatowners, especially racers, will often incorporate the name of their business into thier boat names

maybe thats the case here

http://promoonline.o...takepledge3.jpg

Don't call me Francis!

And I can't call you sucker, because your not stupid enough to own a race boat.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:06 AM

There is something to be said for shaking the hand of the owner your race with, as you are stepping off the boat, and asking what you can bring next week.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:18 AM

There is something to be said for shaking the hand of the owner your race with, as you are stepping off the boat, and asking what you can bring next week.

Nobody ever asks me that, I guess having to put up with me is a price.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

The last Ptarmigan/Promo Nelson Marek 52 was never pretty, but we had fun with it both on the East Coast and again on Lake Michigan. She went from RI out to Manitowock WI, if I remember rightly.

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:42 AM


There is something to be said for shaking the hand of the owner your race with, as you are stepping off the boat, and asking what you can bring next week.

Nobody ever asks me that, I guess having to put up with me is a price.

They just don't appreciate all you do for them.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:49 AM



There is something to be said for shaking the hand of the owner your race with, as you are stepping off the boat, and asking what you can bring next week.

Nobody ever asks me that, I guess having to put up with me is a price.

They just don't appreciate all you do for them.


How's that work then ? shaking hands as you step off the boat, I would think one or both of us would end up in the drink.
or is this some kind of really big boat gig where you say bye as you head down the ganglank ?

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 12:56 AM

Dinghy Anarchy is several doors down.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:02 AM


There is something to be said for shaking the hand of the owner your race with, as you are stepping off the boat, and asking what you can bring next week.

Nobody ever asks me that, I guess having to put up with me is a price.

It woude be an honner and privedge to brigge somthinge.....

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

Maybe a new mainsail Snaggy.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 12:15 AM

Maybe a new mainsail Snaggy.


A staysail?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 12:28 AM


Maybe a new mainsail Snaggy.

A staysail?

A bloopere mabey?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:37 PM

Don't give him any ideas

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

Don't give him any ideas


Well Josh and I were talking and we were thinking maybe if we did a little surgery on the old #1 we flew for about fourteen seconds during the ALIR...

It could become a success story like the famed jibtop.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

There's a jibtop?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

I saw it once, I swear. Though it was raining pretty hard and I didn't have any foulies on so it may have just been a hallucination brought on by the cold.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

There's a jibtop?

Jonning Team Expo is gettenh moore attrative alle the time.... :)

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:41 AM





boat is off to MIchigan
what a deal - 50% disount off new for a 12 month old boat


The last one went out west too, same program?


I was just gunna say... any idea where in Michigan and/or to who?

Looks like a nice boat... hopefully I'll get to see it next year if it's close

Not the same program.
It will be located on Lake Michigan, but I'm not at liberty to say who. Some of the crew post here, so I'm sure when they are ready to announce it, they will.


Understood, thanks for the info! Beautiful boat.. looking forward to seeing it



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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:16 PM

Home, does this boat have one? Spill it.....

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:20 PM

Home, does this boat have one? Spill it.....

Macatawa Bay

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:21 PM


Home, does this boat have one? Spill it.....

Macatawa Bay


The new Drumbeat?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:19 PM



Home, does this boat have one? Spill it.....

Macatawa Bay


The new Drumbeat?


Interesting thought.
Ted does get bored/change boats frequently.
Didn't he just sell the Soto 40?

After Hughes front page article raving about the J70, I doubt its the new heartbreaker.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:53 PM

Just my speculation that it’s the new Drumbeat.

The Soto 40 went out to Nova Scotia at the end of the 2011 season. I also believe that the Drumbeat contingency tried to charter the DK 46 First Light for the 2012 season but it never came to fruition.

Matt B is probably in the know.

No pressure to spill the beans or anything....


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:57 PM

Just my speculation that it’s the new Drumbeat.

The Soto 40 went out to Nova Scotia at the end of the 2011 season. I also believe that the Drumbeat contingency tried to charter the DK 46 First Light for the 2012 season but it never came to fruition.

Matt B is probably in the know.

No pressure to spill the beans or anything....


I believe you're right about the soto and DK46... if it is indeed heading to Macatawa, I would bet that it will be Etheridge's

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:42 AM

Just curious, what didn't they like about the Soto ?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:16 PM

Just my speculation that it’s the new Drumbeat.

The Soto 40 went out to Nova Scotia at the end of the 2011 season. I also believe that the Drumbeat contingency tried to charter the DK 46 First Light for the 2012 season but it never came to fruition.

Matt B is probably in the know.

No pressure to spill the beans or anything....

Oh, the pressure.
I can confirm one thing. There was a potential charter last year for First Light. Someone should buy it! CHEAP!!!

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

Why do they want to keep it a secret Matt? They are doing a pretty poor job anyhow, most everyone I know is aware.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:26 PM

Not sure it is a secret. Just not up to me to decide.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:27 PM

Gotcha.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

All who are interested , Ptarmigan It is the new Drumbeat. Being painted right now A few more creature comforts for me, and we are all looking forward to it. Just a heads up that Matts DK is an exceptional boat and if Ptarmigan had not found me via Quantum I for sure would have purchased the DK.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

All who are interested , Ptarmigan It is the new Drumbeat. Being painted right now A few more creature comforts for me, and we are all looking forward to it. Just a heads up that Matts DK is an exceptional boat and if Ptarmigan had not found me via Quantum I for sure would have purchased the DK.


Excited to be racing against the new boat on Wednesdays and Saturdays!

Congrats on the buy

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

All who are interested , Ptarmigan It is the new Drumbeat. Being painted right now A few more creature comforts for me, and we are all looking forward to it. Just a heads up that Matts DK is an exceptional boat and if Ptarmigan had not found me via Quantum I for sure would have purchased the DK.


Congrats on the purchase. Raced against her last year at NYYC Annual Regatta. We have a similar ride (Rogers 46) and we love it. Still sorting it out, but we should be ready for Transpac. Enjoy the new ride - a little more boat than the Soto, but I believe you will really appreciate it.

Cheers and good luck,

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:50 PM

A few more creature comforts for me,


whatever this means, I've checked w/ the boys and you're being granted a 5-pound 'allowance' subject to it being finished in high gloss carbon, spend wisely.

:-)

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

a couple pictures of the new paint job @ NEB

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 05:05 PM

a couple pictures of the new paint job @ NEB


Looks good

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:53 PM

a couple pictures of the new paint job @ NEB


Take it everything went well as you guys are registered for the mac ( http://competitor.cy...ail.cfm?ID=1064 )

Beautiful boat... paint job looks good. looking forward to seeing you guys on the water this season in Holland!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:50 AM


a couple pictures of the new paint job @ NEB


Take it everything went well as you guys are registered for the mac ( http://competitor.cy...ail.cfm?ID=1064 )

Beautiful boat... paint job looks good. looking forward to seeing you guys on the water this season in Holland!


Just saw the boat on the hard at Eldeans(at least I think its ptarmigan)... i'll drive down and take pic tomorrow

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:01 PM

She left RI on Monday, so possibly her.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:35 PM

So is there a new Ptarmigan ?

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

Boy is she beautiful! Looking forward to racing against her this year.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:04 PM

very nice...



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:34 PM

Can't wait to light it up! Always a fun group to sail with and Terrible always has cool toys :)



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

What is that boat flying? Q or the blue dot?



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:52 PM

What is that boat flying? Q or the blue dot?

Was Q by TK out here. 



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

What is that boat flying? Q or the blue dot?

Was Q by TK out here. 

 

 

Drumbeat the Soto 40 was a Q too.

 

Must have been a good selling point.






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