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[Jason AUS]

OK you Sydney 36 plonkers, who's still following this thread...?????

We've made a new video (or the first in a while worth watching) - The 48nm Coventry reef race last Saturday. Was pretty full-on. Gets better towards the 5.00 mark.

Enjoy.

Poods ;-)

http://youtu.be/-3TMBwdVc08

Nice one! Just out of curiosity... who was that handsome chap who was driving when the boat got laid down?

[The Advocate]

Nice C bomb Poods.

[Poodle56]

OK you Sydney 36 plonkers, who's still following this thread...?????

We've made a new video (or the first in a while worth watching) - The 48nm Coventry reef race last Saturday. Was pretty full-on. Gets better towards the 5.00 mark.

Enjoy.

Poods ;-)

http://youtu.be/-3TMBwdVc08

Nice one! Just out of curiosity... who was that handsome chap who was driving when the boat got laid down?

....That would be the learner / driver that still has his P-plates on at 30kts off the breeze....

We actually felt pretty good until that wipe out. Hence the slight tone off frustration in my voice....

We had a great day out - First time ever surfing in that sort of seastate & breeze - Buying bigger blocks this week! ISAF & river sailing te next month or so, so probably wont get out like that again for a bit.

Poods

[Poodle56]

Nice C bomb Poods.

Glad you were paying attention TA my man!

Now see if you can work you magic & make that youtube link display as a piccy in the blog

Poods

[The Advocate]

Nice C bomb Poods.

Glad you were paying attention TA my man!

Now see if you can work you magic & make that youtube link display as a piccy in the blog

Poods

Always pay attention to you mate.

What blog?

[SPORTSCAR]

Frankenyacht was not so hot in the two windward leewards at Airlie.

http://topyacht.net....ing/03RGrp1.htm

http://topyacht.net....ing/04RGrp1.htm

Much better in the longer races where they could stretch out and use their knowledge gained from having sailed there so often.

Well sailed boat but a tough act to follow for a new owner... or for (most) other S36CRs for that matter.

[Evo]

17kts Poods!! onyas

that's the fourth mode for her bloke. very nice

wrap speed

[Poodle56]

Frankenyacht was not so hot in the two windward leewards at Airlie.

http://topyacht.net....ing/03RGrp1.htm

http://topyacht.net....ing/04RGrp1.htm

Much better in the longer races where they could stretch out and use their knowledge gained from having sailed there so often.

Well sailed boat but a tough act to follow for a new owner... or for (most) other S36CRs for that matter.

ww/lw are still our weakness. We's hates a breeze up the clacker. We desperately try to sail the angles / numbers, but takes serious discipline. Old story?? Sometimes when we have a reglar crew / helm combo hasppening it works real goood Get those soaks "ease away!!! happening!!! But alll good. When the angle is good (which is often), we hum!

We love our Syndey 36

Poods

[Poodle56]

Here's another offering, G rated this time with a family soundtrack!

http://youtu.be/0FVwjV3O4Qs

Poods

[tuf-luf]

17kts Poods!! onyas

that's the fourth mode for her bloke. very nice

wrap speed

Is that like Ice-T with gilled-chicken in a lo-carb vessel delivered PDQ?

[Evo]

17kts Poods!! onyas

that's the fourth mode for her bloke. very nice

wrap speed

Is that like Ice-T with gilled-chicken in a lo-carb vessel delivered PDQ?

had a young fella tell me they did 25 plus on a CR the other day. took a while to get off the floor and stop laffin. so yes...Poods has broken the mythical 16.6 and done 17. there's only one 36 that can do it and that's TWU. bet there was a fine jet of spray going straight down the companionway.

wrap speed

[tuf-luf]

17kts Poods!! onyas

that's the fourth mode for her bloke. very nice

wrap speed

Is that like Ice-T with gilled-chicken in a lo-carb vessel delivered PDQ?

had a young fella tell me they did 25 plus on a CR the other day. took a while to get off the floor and stop laffin. so yes...Poods has broken the mythical 16.6 and done 17. there's only one 36 that can do it and that's TWU. bet there was a fine jet of spray going straight down the companionway.

wrap speed

Yea for sure. Those boats go very weird when pushed to the limit...and beyond.

We buried the beak-end and spun it going nearly 15 speed in 27 kts TWS sliding down a nice roller in King's Cup in my BH36 many years ago during one of those rare, super windy, sunny Phuket days. Superb!

Never saw the mythical 17...hmmm. This would sound wicked on the way there though

[Poodle56]

In God we trust. Everyone else must provide data.




I've attached the plot of the day's race, along with some data from the geep. It clocked us at 15kt average over 14 seconds. On the log (calibration had been checked) we had >17kts

A mighty fine day on the ocean (until we wiped out & blew the kite block....)

Poods

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[Evo]

you are now the gods of Sydney 36's poods. the gods i tells ya!!

the only crew to have smashed the mythical 17kts and returned alive with proof. veritable Chuck Yeagers

i salute you sir, your crew and your magnificent boat on this momentous leap forward and bending of the space time continuum.

i hope you take pause to reflect on the amount of captaincarlos's brain cells that were destroyed in the repair to her keel floors without which such speed would be unattainable. you blokes have deemed it a worthy sacrifice indeed. onyas

[Dark Cloud]

Did 17.8 in Bass St in a Hobart couple years ago, under a Frac kite. And i'm pretty sure the owner got higher going thru the heads one day on an ebb tide. Can't remember what speed he got tho.

[Evo]

prove or lose DC....hahaha!

damn it....had just found the madness clip

[Dark Cloud]

no pics im afraid

[BAR KARATE]

Did 17.8 in Bass St in a Hobart couple years ago, under a Frac kite. And i'm pretty sure the owner got higher going thru the heads one day on an ebb tide. Can't remember what speed he got tho.

A couple of knts more & it's critical velosity for a Syd38, I couldn't imagine the 36 doing more than 20knts IMHO

[Evo]

oh i dunno BK...if ya dropped one off a tall enough building might do more.

[BAR KARATE]

oh i dunno BK...if ya dropped one off a tall enough building might do more.

[ColinG]

oh i dunno BK...if ya dropped one off a tall enough building might do more.

I thought that was only J-Boats????

[Poodle56]

you are now the gods of Sydney 36's poods. the gods i tells ya!!

the only crew to have smashed the mythical 17kts and returned alive with proof. veritable Chuck Yeagers

i salute you sir, your crew and your magnificent boat on this momentous leap forward and bending of the space time continuum.

i hope you take pause to reflect on the amount of captaincarlos's brain cells that were destroyed in the repair to her keel floors without which such speed would be unattainable. you blokes have deemed it a worthy sacrifice indeed. onyas

EVO my precious little S36 plonker!!! We are one step ahead of you...

http://youtu.be/-dKXsw_s2XA

... a little concept video we did about 6 months ago. Not sure if it is funny or just weird, but see it through...... I have to stop doing these vids peesed! DOH! Just made a koont of myself again

I tips my hat to Captain Carlos - His mighty keel repairs gave us the strength & confidence to do what we do, and also helped us with a 150kg weight gain & 50 IRC rating points

DC my friend, I totally believe the Bass Strait story. John & the boys told us many stories of the speeds they achieved surfing to Gero, so I tips me hat to you too!! And they would NEVER let the numbers get in the way of a good beer tale But we are just not that tough.....


But let there be no more talk of launching Sydney yachts from sky scrapers!!!! Let us celebrate the best thing that Sydney has produced other than Sydney draft beer (1983) and "Steak & Kidney" (1987)....!!!!!

I'm excited!!!!

Poods

[tuf-luf]

oh i dunno BK...if ya dropped one off a tall enough building might do more.

+1

- sitting in my hotel room in HKG
- harf pushhhed
- listening to mad tunes
- after looking at a boat I wanna buy all afternoon

...that made me laugh my guts out.

Onya Evo.

[Evo]

I tips my hat to Captain Carlos - His mighty keel repairs gave us the strength & confidence to do what we do, and also helped us with a 150kg weight gain & 50 IRC rating points

that's rubbish....how would anyone know what she actually weighed previously? Especially anyone from there.....you have much to learn about Sydney yachts poods.

were you actually told that??? oh boy....she would have been lighter....not heavier. dopey facks need someone to blame for not doing their homework properly at a guess. Just not possible to have come out of the shed heavier mate. Look elsewhere

Her rating changed with new sails and an endorsed cert....done there. Never checked here and then there's a history to that as well. Ask Ray Carless.

anyway...onya and thanks for calling me little. that hasn't happened since i was eight.

merry merry excitement mate. keep the vids coming. they're great

[Poodle56]

The Byzantine workings of Sydney yachts! I have come to understand the less I know of this, the wiser I am.

So where do the S36 weights for IRC come from?

I note from the certs that they are all a bit different, so I assume that it is not a standard factory weight. I'm pretty sure John never weighed TWU, and I assume ray did not weigh her either? Notwithstanding that, she came up 150kg heavier to her previous weight when we stripped her out for the scales 6 months ago. I told a lie - IRC went from 1.064 to 1.057, a bit due to sails sizes, but I belive most due to weight. We've since crept up to 1.059 with new bigger main.

Is now a good time for me to shut up?

But wait, there is still time for some more shameless self promotion, and another TWU win - Best Dressed yacht in the Chrismas twlight sail this week....

Have a great Chritsmas & All the best for 2012!

Poods

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[tuf-luf]

Hate the wheel on the 36. Yuck.

Syd yachts: it'll make it sell.

Andy Dovell: no. It's wrong.

Hate it.

[Poodle56]

I finally tallied up the S2H 2011 results - We have to take special note of Whistler, a Tassie based MBD36 (early S36 model..??)

45/88 Line honours
2/19 in IRC 4
10/72 on overall IRC.

My link

[Evo]

here ya go you plonker. a real one and the best ever made. yours is good for the config...the one you mention is also. look up salt shaker.
however LH is simply the best. one in the US pretty good also from all accounts



tuffie might know a good one too

plonk away. JM can help ya there. no one can beat experience

[tuf-luf]

Yup!

It's now in HKG and getting a new keel (designed by Andy Dovell too!) so she can meet the offshore STIX number requirements.

Still a very competitive boat (the original BH36) and one of my faves (that I've owned). Now called "Talking Head" in RHKYC...don't know, maybe owner is in broadcasting or something like that.

[I'moutahere]

here ya go you plonker. a real one and the best ever made. yours is good for the config...the one you mention is also. look up salt shaker.
however LH is simply the best. one in the US pretty good also from all accounts



tuffie might know a good one too

plonk away. JM can help ya there. no one can beat experience

Small world isn't it. Did a few miles delivering & racing on that one when Kevin Wood owned it back about late '90s. ('96 & '97, XXXX regatta etc.)

[Evo]

john...the helm of that boat has delivered (in very short order) some of the strangest experiences in my time afloat. besides extreme discomfort. she's an absolute beauty (while the rudder is in) and a tribute to Pete M's care.

[I'moutahere]

john...the helm of that boat has delivered (in a short period of time) some of the strangest experiences in my time afloat. besides extreme discomfort. she's an absolute beauty (while the rudder is in) and a tribute to Pete M's care.

I don't recall any issues with the boat. It was 15 years and a lot of boats ago though.

[Evo]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

[I'moutahere]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

It was in Airlie RW about 18 months ago if I remember right. Chatted with the crew briefly. Is Tuffie right that it is now in HK?

[lydia]

I finally tallied up the S2H 2011 results - We have to take special note of Whistler, a Tassie based MBD36 (early S36 model..??)

45/88 Line honours
2/19 in IRC 4
10/72 on overall IRC.

My link

Completely different boat, and there are two sisterships down there on with fractional rig

[Evo]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

It was in Airlie RW about 18 months ago if I remember right. Chatted with the crew briefly. Is Tuffie right that it is now in HK?

dunno John....my first guess would be tuffie is talking about his one...over to you BB

[Poodle56]

I finally tallied up the S2H 2011 results - We have to take special note of Whistler, a Tassie based MBD36 (early S36 model..??)

45/88 Line honours
2/19 in IRC 4
10/72 on overall IRC.

My link

Completely different boat, and there are two sisterships down there on with fractional rig

So what is the definitive list of S36 types / models, and the differences..?? I figured the Whistler results would flush out the LH boys

LH is a BH36..?? Is that mast head no..??

Whistler - MBD36 - Is fractional rigged yes..??

...and then the various Sydney 36 models came along a bit later..?? S36's had slightly deeper keels I believe.

But they are all of the same peerage..??

Should I give up my quest to understand the Sydney 36 lineage.... Or is it just way too early in the new year....

Poods

[Evo]

the fracs were the MBD sunsail boats iirc. 7/8th rig

MH's were the originals BH 36's....keel shape on all of them changed with twu...several times....to what the CR's are today....only a few (?) made with the swim step stern. CR changed the deck.

sail what ya got....potentialy the best all rounder though only scored a few times in real comp.

there is no lineage...they are all different and the build quality varies as much as their weight. best build is the original. LH. daylight second

[Windward Mark]

Just a roughy, but here goes:

Original boats had the larger mast head rigs, a beut looking navy blue boat called Kingtide was the original timber plug. Local hero, Tuffies Foxy Lady, the original Amante amongst others. The original BH36's.

In that build process, Sunsail had about 6 dumbed down versions built with shorter rigs for the charter fleet. These included one of the boats that Evo mentioned up thread. Saltshaker amongst others. Definitely mast head rigs, just shorter than the earlier IMS models.

After those, there was a great boat called Pamela C built for a car dealer in Pittwater. It had a carbon mast with non-overlapping rig. It had the same keel as the IMS boats but I believe that has been changed since. It did very well in the early days of IRC and was a well campaigned boat that was put together well. The Carbon mast was a glamour for it's time.

Next cab of the rank was a current MHYC boat but was originally for a pittwater owner called "Stormaway". 2nd boat with a swept back rig, although this one was alloy. Conventional poles but has since been retro fitted with a bowsprit I think. This boat was the first with a heavier T bulb fitted to the keel.

Following on from that, Sydney Yachts launched the "Sports" which was basically Stormaway but with a long retractable bowsprit. TWU was one of the first with Supernova and a QLD boat which is still on the market called Springfield or somthing like that all similar boats. There were about 5 or 6 of these built. Supernova had a stepped in stern, but still an enclosed cockpit.

After these boats, a new deck mould was built, a smaller fixed/plug in bowsprit added and a new refined keel and possibly rudder was fitted, this became the CR. Plenty of these built, one of the first was the new Amante. The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

One of the last was The Philosphers club. Less said about this franken boat the better. Ugliest boat on the water today. Stripped out downstairs, tiller steer, stern scoop, extended dick on the bow to allow for bigger jibs etc etc....

I know there will most likely be a few errors in the above but I reckon it makes a good story.....

[lydia]

Whistler has a Syd 38 rig in it and the sistership down at Kettering is masthead and both are very different to a Syd 36 ie more freeboard narrower and narrow stern

Maram then Amante now Picses originally had masthead with checks now has masthead with swept spreaders

Had IMS type keel not t keel

That boat was just a fucking disgrace when launched

Owner left racing for good

[lydia]

Just a roughy, but here goes:

Original boats had the larger mast head rigs, a beut looking navy blue boat called Kingtide was the original timber plug. Local hero, Tuffies Foxy Lady, the original Amante amongst others. The original BH36's.

In that build process, Sunsail had about 6 dumbed down versions built with shorter rigs for the charter fleet. These included one of the boats that Evo mentioned up thread. Saltshaker amongst others. Definitely mast head rigs, just shorter than the earlier IMS models.

After those, there was a great boat called Pamela C built for a car dealer in Pittwater. It had a carbon mast with non-overlapping rig. It had the same keel as the IMS boats but I believe that has been changed since. It did very well in the early days of IRC and was a well campaigned boat that was put together well. The Carbon mast was a glamour for it's time.

Next cab of the rank was a current MHYC boat but was originally for a pittwater owner called "Stormaway". 2nd boat with a swept back rig, although this one was alloy. Conventional poles but has since been retro fitted with a bowsprit I think. This boat was the first with a heavier T bulb fitted to the keel.

Following on from that, Sydney Yachts launched the "Sports" which was basically Stormaway but with a long retractable bowsprit. TWU was one of the first with Supernova and a QLD boat which is still on the market called Springfield or somthing like that all similar boats. There were about 5 or 6 of these built. Supernova had a stepped in stern, but still an enclosed cockpit.

After these boats, a new deck mould was built, a smaller fixed/plug in bowsprit added and a new refined keel and possibly rudder was fitted, this became the CR. Plenty of these built, one of the first was the new Amante. The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

One of the last was The Philosphers club. Less said about this franken boat the better. Ugliest boat on the water today. Stripped out downstairs, tiller steer, stern scoop, extended dick on the bow to allow for bigger jibs etc etc....

I know there will most likely be a few errors in the above but I reckon it makes a good story.....

Whistler is not Picses but a local build

[tuf-luf]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

It was in Airlie RW about 18 months ago if I remember right. Chatted with the crew briefly. Is Tuffie right that it is now in HK?

No JS - my old BH36 is in HKG now.

now called Talking Head-->Ex-FoxyLady2--> Ex-HaiMin--> Ex-PlaLoma--> Ex-Ray Roberts' BH36 (I think...)

Hull #7

[Poodle56]

Thanks for the info guys. What a fucked up piece of bastardy lineage! I wasn’t exactly expecting blue blooded royalty, but that is just a sack of monkey shit. I know you’ve all been hiding this truth from me – For my own good. But I did not know when to stop pushing, and now I know. Oh well, even trailer trash has it’s uses…

Poods

[Evo]

you fit the west aussie Syd36 owner mould so well poods. stay excited

[Windward Mark]

Thanks for the info guys. What a fucked up piece of bastardy lineage! I wasn’t exactly expecting blue blooded royalty, but that is just a sack of monkey shit. I know you’ve all been hiding this truth from me – For my own good. But I did not know when to stop pushing, and now I know. Oh well, even trailer trash has it’s uses…

Poods

But it doesn't end there....... I beleive your boat along with Supernova now have the CR keel on them after both having the same issue of draft exceeding depth at different points on Sydney harbour!!

[Evo]

and Moreton Bay.

Sven the Tidemaster was truly an expert. almost as good as Sven the navigator who has gone onto outdo anything east of Noranda with one of the biggest hits in sailing just to prove the point. ycmtsu

[Poodle56]

We have found numerous locations in the Swan River that are just under 8' deep

.... Trailer trash. Now where is that HD video camera of mine.....

[Evo]

[lydia]

Thanks for the info guys. What a fucked up piece of bastardy lineage! I wasn’t exactly expecting blue blooded royalty, but that is just a sack of monkey shit. I know you’ve all been hiding this truth from me – For my own good. But I did not know when to stop pushing, and now I know. Oh well, even trailer trash has it’s uses…

Poods

Monkey shit -- Sydney Yachts
Had not thought of it like that!

[Edake]

Just a roughy, but here goes:

Original boats had the larger mast head rigs, a beut looking navy blue boat called Kingtide was the original timber plug. Local hero, Tuffies Foxy Lady, the original Amante amongst others. The original BH36's.

In that build process, Sunsail had about 6 dumbed down versions built with shorter rigs for the charter fleet. These included one of the boats that Evo mentioned up thread. Saltshaker amongst others. Definitely mast head rigs, just shorter than the earlier IMS models.

After those, there was a great boat called Pamela C built for a car dealer in Pittwater. It had a carbon mast with non-overlapping rig. It had the same keel as the IMS boats but I believe that has been changed since. It did very well in the early days of IRC and was a well campaigned boat that was put together well. The Carbon mast was a glamour for it's time.

Next cab of the rank was a current MHYC boat but was originally for a pittwater owner called "Stormaway". 2nd boat with a swept back rig, although this one was alloy. Conventional poles but has since been retro fitted with a bowsprit I think. This boat was the first with a heavier T bulb fitted to the keel.

Following on from that, Sydney Yachts launched the "Sports" which was basically Stormaway but with a long retractable bowsprit. TWU was one of the first with Supernova and a QLD boat which is still on the market called Springfield or somthing like that all similar boats. There were about 5 or 6 of these built. Supernova had a stepped in stern, but still an enclosed cockpit.

After these boats, a new deck mould was built, a smaller fixed/plug in bowsprit added and a new refined keel and possibly rudder was fitted, this became the CR. Plenty of these built, one of the first was the new Amante. The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

One of the last was The Philosphers club. Less said about this franken boat the better. Ugliest boat on the water today. Stripped out downstairs, tiller steer, stern scoop, extended dick on the bow to allow for bigger jibs etc etc....

I know there will most likely be a few errors in the above but I reckon it makes a good story.....

Is Philosphers measured for IRC with all these mods? Sounds like it is no longer of the same design year!

[duncan (the other one)]

The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

Nope.

Pisces is still Pisces.

Keel was owner modded -- more lead I understand.

http://l2h.com.au/2011/11/pisces/pisces-2/

Rig is still MH, but swept.

[duncan (the other one)]

Whistler has a different rig.. 2-spreader frac

[duncan (the other one)]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

Siderney repairs weren't so great at the time either.. I understand.

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[HILLY]

Whistler has a different rig.. 2-spreader frac

Interesting staysail.
Sailed against these guys in the Rolex passage series and followed their run to Hobart, well sailed, maybe they should have done the M.H.Y.C. short offshore series, if they were here, against Philosphers Club, Onya, La Altra Donna, etc, to see how well an earlier Sydney 36 could go in short circuit stuff???

[42 South]

Guys - Whistler is not a Sydney 36 - she was built locally (in Tas) and is called a MBD 36 design. See Yacht Description S2H

[lydia]

Guys - Whistler is not a Sydney 36 - she was built locally (in Tas) and is called a MBD 36 design. See Yacht Description S2H

They don't want to listen, they just want to believe!

BTW what is story with the other one at Kettering that I have never seen off its mooring.
Blue and Red stripes with MH rig
Who built them both as well?

[lydia]

Maram started with in line 3 spreader tin mast with over lapping headsails and IMS keel

Sold and became Amante

Sold and became Picses and new owner over time went swept masthead moves chain plates to gunwhale and swept the spreaders and now uses non overlaps

Also added lead to get AVs I think as sure a hell did not have it as Maram

Original owner go completely shafted by Sydney Yachts.

Ordered the boat just before Sydney got the AC 40 deal and had to make the 40s so went to back of production line and when boat delivered is was just crap. (like mastsheet base fixed to cockpit floor with self tappers)

But sure was quick in light air!

[Windward Mark]

Guys - Whistler is not a Sydney 36 - she was built locally (in Tas) and is called a MBD 36 design. See Yacht Description S2H

They don't want to listen, they just want to believe!

BTW what is story with the other one at Kettering that I have never seen off its mooring.
Blue and Red stripes with MH rig
Who built them both as well?

I heard you!! So when was Whistler designed/built?

[Windward Mark]

Just a roughy, but here goes:

Original boats had the larger mast head rigs, a beut looking navy blue boat called Kingtide was the original timber plug. Local hero, Tuffies Foxy Lady, the original Amante amongst others. The original BH36's.

In that build process, Sunsail had about 6 dumbed down versions built with shorter rigs for the charter fleet. These included one of the boats that Evo mentioned up thread. Saltshaker amongst others. Definitely mast head rigs, just shorter than the earlier IMS models.

After those, there was a great boat called Pamela C built for a car dealer in Pittwater. It had a carbon mast with non-overlapping rig. It had the same keel as the IMS boats but I believe that has been changed since. It did very well in the early days of IRC and was a well campaigned boat that was put together well. The Carbon mast was a glamour for it's time.

Next cab of the rank was a current MHYC boat but was originally for a pittwater owner called "Stormaway". 2nd boat with a swept back rig, although this one was alloy. Conventional poles but has since been retro fitted with a bowsprit I think. This boat was the first with a heavier T bulb fitted to the keel.

Following on from that, Sydney Yachts launched the "Sports" which was basically Stormaway but with a long retractable bowsprit. TWU was one of the first with Supernova and a QLD boat which is still on the market called Springfield or somthing like that all similar boats. There were about 5 or 6 of these built. Supernova had a stepped in stern, but still an enclosed cockpit.

After these boats, a new deck mould was built, a smaller fixed/plug in bowsprit added and a new refined keel and possibly rudder was fitted, this became the CR. Plenty of these built, one of the first was the new Amante. The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

One of the last was The Philosphers club. Less said about this franken boat the better. Ugliest boat on the water today. Stripped out downstairs, tiller steer, stern scoop, extended dick on the bow to allow for bigger jibs etc etc....

I know there will most likely be a few errors in the above but I reckon it makes a good story.....

Is Philosphers measured for IRC with all these mods? Sounds like it is no longer of the same design year!

Don't get me started....... Same hull factor???? Same rig factor??? ................

[dudeman11]

rudder had an occasional habit of leaving the boat at the wrong moment....not in my experience...whew....they all have an issue with the stock, radial and config, ahhh syderneee boats

LH was still in awesome shape last time i saw her. great boat

Siderney repairs weren't so great at the time either.. I understand.

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oops

[Jason AUS]

Whistler has a different rig.. 2-spreader frac

Interesting staysail.
Sailed against these guys in the Rolex passage series and followed their run to Hobart, well sailed, maybe they should have done the M.H.Y.C. short offshore series, if they were here, against Philosphers Club, Onya, La Altra Donna, etc, to see how well an earlier Sydney 36 could go in short circuit stuff???

It could be a spaysail - not a staysail.

http://www.doylesails.com/spaysail/

[duncan (the other one)]

Whistler has a different rig.. 2-spreader frac

Interesting staysail.
Sailed against these guys in the Rolex passage series and followed their run to Hobart, well sailed, maybe they should have done the M.H.Y.C. short offshore series, if they were here, against Philosphers Club, Onya, La Altra Donna, etc, to see how well an earlier Sydney 36 could go in short circuit stuff???

It could be a spaysail - not a staysail.

http://www.doylesails.com/spaysail/

ouch... it's making me wince

still, better than 'staynikker'

[Jason AUS]

Whistler has a different rig.. 2-spreader frac

Interesting staysail.
Sailed against these guys in the Rolex passage series and followed their run to Hobart, well sailed, maybe they should have done the M.H.Y.C. short offshore series, if they were here, against Philosphers Club, Onya, La Altra Donna, etc, to see how well an earlier Sydney 36 could go in short circuit stuff???

It could be a spaysail - not a staysail.

http://www.doylesails.com/spaysail/

ouch... it's making me wince

still, better than 'staynikker'

Who you calling "nikker? Ain't no VietCong ever called me nikker."

Hat... Coat...

[Poodle56]

WAKE UP! WAKE UP!!!

FD site is down, so I'll rattle on your cages. Here's some new video I know you have not been gagging after. Nary a Sydney 36 in sight, but it comes from the same grubby production studio.

"Wasabi", and Elan 410 at Geographe Bay Race Week.



Poods

[SPORTSCAR]

Just a roughy, but here goes:

Original boats had the larger mast head rigs, a beut looking navy blue boat called Kingtide was the original timber plug. Local hero, Tuffies Foxy Lady, the original Amante amongst others. The original BH36's.

In that build process, Sunsail had about 6 dumbed down versions built with shorter rigs for the charter fleet. These included one of the boats that Evo mentioned up thread. Saltshaker amongst others. Definitely mast head rigs, just shorter than the earlier IMS models.

After those, there was a great boat called Pamela C built for a car dealer in Pittwater. It had a carbon mast with non-overlapping rig. It had the same keel as the IMS boats but I believe that has been changed since. It did very well in the early days of IRC and was a well campaigned boat that was put together well. The Carbon mast was a glamour for it's time.

Next cab of the rank was a current MHYC boat but was originally for a pittwater owner called "Stormaway". 2nd boat with a swept back rig, although this one was alloy. Conventional poles but has since been retro fitted with a bowsprit I think. This boat was the first with a heavier T bulb fitted to the keel.

Following on from that, Sydney Yachts launched the "Sports" which was basically Stormaway but with a long retractable bowsprit. TWU was one of the first with Supernova and a QLD boat which is still on the market called Springfield or somthing like that all similar boats. There were about 5 or 6 of these built. Supernova had a stepped in stern, but still an enclosed cockpit.

After these boats, a new deck mould was built, a smaller fixed/plug in bowsprit added and a new refined keel and possibly rudder was fitted, this became the CR. Plenty of these built, one of the first was the new Amante. The old IMS/masthead Amante was sold to Hobart and became Pieces and now Whistler. It now has the swept back rig but still the original keel AFAIK. As I said, a couple of handfuls made of this model.

One of the last was The Philosphers club. Less said about this franken boat the better. Ugliest boat on the water today. Stripped out downstairs, tiller steer, stern scoop, extended dick on the bow to allow for bigger jibs etc etc....

I know there will most likely be a few errors in the above but I reckon it makes a good story.....

Pamela C is now in Geelong renamed Peregrine and has done well for her owner there too. Still a very fast 36fter by any standards and a better boat offshore with the closed in transom. Carbon rig is still a glamour. This 1999 iteration of the design gave Sorro a bit of a hurry up in some of their races when 'Philanderers Club' was down here. Her owner now keen to move on so Peregrine/Pammy C is up for sale and a good buy for someone looking for a proven fast Syd 36. Read further back up this thread for references as to how good!.
Posting links to on-line ads is a no no according to the 'buy an ad' enforcers so you can PM me for details instead
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Photo credit to Steb Fisher for the nice shot from astern.

[Poodle56]

I was reading Afloat magazine the other day, and noticed an ad in the classifies: PC for Sale...

[Sandgroper Yachting]

I was reading Afloat magazine the other day, and noticed an ad in the classifies: PC for Sale...

Poods you could have traded secrets with Sorro last week at GBRW.
He was steering a Melges 24.

[Poodle56]

I was reading Afloat magazine the other day, and noticed an ad in the classifies: PC for Sale...

Poods you could have traded secrets with Sorro last week at GBRW.
He was steering a Melges 24.

DOH!!! Missed out again, the story of my life....

[Poodle56]

Wake up plonkers!!! Latest Sydney 36 vid from the sleezy TWU studios. The Cape Naturaliste Race, longest race we have ever done.

Poods


http://youtu.be/cQaVYSPqHI8

http://http://youtu.be/cQaVYSPqHI8

[GybeSet®]

Syd 39cr
Syd 47cr

moulds on ebay now !!

47 could make a motivated homebuilder a hell of a cruiser

[tuf-luf]

Well those didn't last that long!

Gimme a "K" ----> "K!!"
Gimme a "E" ----> "E!!"
Gimme a "R" ----> "R!!"

Whaddya got?! KER!!

Hat...



...coat.



Whatever.

[GybeSet®]

lasted a while

the 39 hull mould being the s38s !

[Swanno (Ohf Shore)]

Syd 39cr
Syd 47cr

moulds on ebay now !!

47 could make a motivated homebuilder a hell of a cruiser

Not a bad starting point for $100

[Poodle56]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

[tuf-luf]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

Sydney Yachts International

(02) 4423-3153
4 Cumberland Ave South
Nowra, NSW 2541

[Poodle56]

Now why couldn't I find them a few months back...???? Must just be me.

[tuf-luf]

Gee...I guess so.

[Evo]

Don't be too hard on the Poods tuffie....after all he can get 17.4 knots out of a Syd 36S on a two sail reach with a slab in.

[Bill E Goat]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

Sydney Yachts International

(02) 4423-3153
4 Cumberland Ave South
Nowra, NSW 2541

Might be very lonely if you went there


Industrial Factory - Convenient location beside RTA. Available Now


Former Azzura Yachts building; 3 Phase power in place; High clearance roller door; Plenty of on-site car parking available; Unit has it's own amenities; Small office space; Secure gated complex.

http://www.homehound...nowra nsw 2541/

[tuf-luf]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

Sydney Yachts International

(02) 4423-3153
4 Cumberland Ave South
Nowra, NSW 2541

Might be very lonely if you went there


Industrial Factory - Convenient location beside RTA. Available Now


Former Azzura Yachts building; 3 Phase power in place; High clearance roller door; Plenty of on-site car parking available; Unit has it's own amenities; Small office space; Secure gated complex.

http://www.homehound...nowra nsw 2541/

So where are Sydney Yachts being mfg'd now then?

[pulpit]

Syd 39cr
Syd 47cr

moulds on ebay now !!

47 could make a motivated homebuilder a hell of a cruiser

Not a bad starting point for $100

Your right, $100 bucks what a great price!!!!

Now add in the cost to move the mould anywhere and then storage.

I've owned moulds before and now and just because they are cheap it doesn't mean they are a bargain.

The trouble with them is the cost to store them if you don't have the space. The other thing with these moulds is you need to have a Crain to move them about every time you want to work on them.

In saying that they are a great buy if you live close by and have the room for them.
Pulpit

[Poodle56]

feckin fecin feckin!!!!!!!! How the feck do I post an image on this blog..?? It used to be so simple!

Help me out here!

Poods

feck feck feck feckin stupid feck blog feck ceck koooont feck, feckin feck!

[Last Post By]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

Sydney Yachts International

(02) 4423-3153
4 Cumberland Ave South
Nowra, NSW 2541

Hey Tuff guy, whats with the sudden interest in Lesbians as shown below your posts?

[Poodle56]

Well poke my eye out with a blunt burnt stick! You are still all watching.

Weez been having fun, and of course we got it on video:

http://youtu.be/Hj3UFcTxwEo

Poods

[Poodle56]

Do any of you lot know if "Hydroil" still exist in Sydney, and have some contact details for them?

They do the hydraulic backstays of yachts, ours needs a little TLC. No results in gear anarchy.

Failing that, can you recomend a reliable marine hydraulic contact......??

Thanks

Poods

[Sandgroper Yachting]

Do any of you lot know if "Hydroil" still exist in Sydney, and have some contact details for them?

They do the hydraulic backstays of yachts, ours needs a little TLC. No results in gear anarchy.

Failing that, can you recomend a reliable marine hydraulic contact......??

Thanks

Poods

Poods,

Try Fleet Hydrol in Sydney.
http://www.fleet-hyd...u/FH_Marine.htm
They built the hydraulic ram for our boat and have a heap of Sydney's in their photos

[Poodle56]

That's them, thx!

[tuf-luf]

Your first test Grasshopper - Using only the internet & NO local knowledge, try and find a physical address for the moulds.... or Sydney yachts......

Sydney Yachts International

(02) 4423-3153
4 Cumberland Ave South
Nowra, NSW 2541

Hey Tuff guy, whats with the sudden interest in Lesbians as shown below your posts?

Momentary lapse of reason <rum-induced>. Long gone now.

[Jason AUS]

Do any of you lot know if "Hydroil" still exist in Sydney, and have some contact details for them?

They do the hydraulic backstays of yachts, ours needs a little TLC. No results in gear anarchy.

Failing that, can you recomend a reliable marine hydraulic contact......??

Thanks

Poods

Poods,

Try Fleet Hydrol in Sydney.
http://www.fleet-hyd...u/FH_Marine.htm
They built the hydraulic ram for our boat and have a heap of Sydney's in their photos

Totally endorse Fleet Hydrol up at Brookvale - they serviced the vang and backstay on our old boat and do good work.

Poods, what's the ETA for the mighty TWU and crew into Sydney pre Hobart? As I recall I owe you a sail (and a thousand beers), so thought you and Squinty may like a twilight spin around our humble pond?

[LDH]

Should be some fun racing for you - I heard Local Hero are looking at making the trip south this year too.

[Poodle56]

She should be east of Perth by now, acheduled to arrive Sydney City Marine next Wed. We are flying over Tue arvo, probably stay at the salubrious Vibe Hotel in Rushcutters bay. Last time I was there having a beer was 1985! Plan is to have her back together & into CYC at beer o'clock Friday. Then finalise Cat 1 survey. We'll be back in November for her first hit-out in the Cabbage Patch Race.

So Local hero heading south, Whistler no doubt, looks like we have ourselves a race!

BTW - HTF do you upload an image now???? I'm trying to put a few photos up, but my fortran brain just aint doing it.

Poods

[Poodle56]

We need 1 or 2 crew for the cyc short ocean race tomorrow. Drop me a pm if u want to jump on board with the Westies!! ;-)

Poods

[fiveo8797]

FYI Poodle, the term "Westie" has a completely different connotation in the eastern states. I'll leave it to you to find out.

fiveo

[Poodle56]

FYI Poodle, the term "Westie" has a completely different connotation in the eastern states. I'll leave it to you to find out.

fiveo

Hey 5-O,

I grew up around Bankstown, hence the humour

TWU all safely slumbering at CYC awaiting our return....

Poods

[DickDastardly]

Westie, bogan, all the same... I am certain CYCA's beverage profit centre is eagerly awaiting Poods and Squinty's return... ;-) And a certain schnitzel restaurant and several other venues nearby...

Oh and Poods I've made peace with MHYC on your behalf...

[Poodle56]

Westie, bogan, all the same... I am certain CYCA's beverage profit centre is eagerly awaiting Poods and Squinty's return... ;-) And a certain schnitzel restaurant and several other venues nearby...

Oh and Poods I've made peace with MHYC on your behalf...

I think we've added 2 percetnage points to the total GDP of the sailing industry recently!

Thanks for the diplomacy - we were far too excited to stay away, considering our boat had been stripped down on a truck just 24 hours earlier.

We had the best time in spite of all the hard work. The welcome from CYC was great, and we really enjoyed getting out amonsgt it on the harbour and ocean

Poods

[fiveo8797]

FYI Poodle, the term "Westie" has a completely different connotation in the eastern states. I'll leave it to you to find out.

fiveo

Hey 5-O,

I grew up around Bankstown, hence the humour


Poods

are you muslim?

fiveo

[Poodle56]

FYI Poodle, the term "Westie" has a completely different connotation in the eastern states. I'll leave it to you to find out.

fiveo

Hey 5-O,

I grew up around Bankstown, hence the humour


Poods

are you muslim?

fiveo

Sheet no! I would not have been able to enjoy the superb bacon & egg burgers each morning at the CYC!

Just glancing at all the vids & photos of the week in Sydney, I'll have to add muslims to the list of "apology letters" for all our little indiscretions!!

Poods

[atefooterz]

FYI Poodle, the term "Westie" has a completely different connotation in the eastern states. I'll leave it to you to find out.

fiveo

Hey 5-O,

I grew up around Bankstown, hence the humour


Poods

are you muslim?

fiveo

Sheet no! I would not have been able to enjoy the superb bacon & egg burgers each morning at the CYC!

Just glancing at all the vids & photos of the week in Sydney, I'll have to add muslims to the list of "apology letters" for all our little indiscretions!!

Poods

westie culture

A young Afghani gets signed up by the Bulldogs...

Noel Cleal flies to Kabul to watch a young Afghani star in a local game

of rugby played with an inflated goat's bladder. He is suitably

impressed, gets on the phone to Des Hasler, signs the boy on the spot

and arranges for him to come over to Sydney.



Two weeks later The Doggies are 12 - 0 down to The Sea Eagles at home

with only 20 minutes left - it's been a hard day at the office.

Hasler gives the young Afghani winger the nod, and on he goes.



The lad is a sensation, playing an absolute blinder. He scores 3

tries in 20 minutes, converts all of them himself from out wide and wins

the game for Canterbury . The Belmore Oval fans are delighted, the

players and the coach are delighted and the media love the new star of

Rugby League.



When the player comes off the ground he phones his mum to tell her about

his first day in the NRL.



"Hello mum, guess what?" he says "I played for 20 minutes today, we were

12 - 0 down but I scored 3 tries - they call it a hat-trick - and we

won. Everybody loves me, the fans, the press, they all love me - I'm

so happy."



"Just wonderful," says his mum, "Let me tell you about my day ...

... Your father got shot in the street, your sister and I were ambushed

and assaulted - she would have been raped but for a passing police

vehicle. Your brother has joined a local gang of looters and set fire

to some buildings and all while you tell me that you were having a great

time!!"



The young lad is very upset. "What can I say mum, but I'm really sorry."



"Sorry?!!! Sorry?!!!" says his mum,



"It's your bloody fault we came to Bankstown to live in the first place!"

[Poodle56]

I think you mean Punchbowl