611 replies to this topic

[Evo]

nah Woody...pet subject ya silly little princess. What was taught to us in school wasn't what happened. Best not be forgotten. May as well get it right.

You would enjoy Peter Fitzsimons book Kokoda....there are some less colourful versions written earlier but PF makes it a readable, though gory, yarn.

reading books Woody is in my honest opinion far better than standing in the traffic from the ladies bathroom and taking pictures. also better than using sockpuppets that reach around but i don't want to judge it's only an opinion

[walterbshaffer]

reading books Woody is in my honest opinion far better than standing in the traffic from the ladies bathroom and taking pictures. also better than using sockpuppets that reach around but i don't want to judge it's only an opinion

double golf clap.

[Chris O]

last time you were in Japan was???

after a little while as a gaijin you might not care whether anyone condenses Japanese to Japs....the rest of what you wrote is just good old oversensitivity. None of my Jap mates give a shit about it

Irrelevant. I grew-up in a part of Los Angeles where there is a large popluation of Japanese decendants. They and their parents were confined in internment campsduring WWII and frequently slammed with the derogatory term, Jap, while so interred. That you can't see that this is a reference of the highest derogatroy sense only shames your ability to move on in this life as a man of substance. That your national Japanese friends also see themsleves as "Japs", only speaks to their inability to grasp that they have accepted the term and now negatively view themselves as such.


I tell you what, get your fanny over to Los Angeles, visit the area referred to as South Central and take your brand of derogatory references to the populace while you spray the term, Nigger, about with your pseudo confidence as to feeling that terms of this type are OK. I'll bet you $500 right now that you won't get out of South Central alive with that kind of attitude short of a police escort. Step up, Evo, or stuff it where it belongs. Your opinions don't build racial relationships... they tear them down.

[Chris O]

Tell that to the survivors of the prison camps who still get tears in their eyes when they think back then.

Tell that to the survivors of any hateful pogrom in the history of thie planet and let me know if it's any different for them, than what you ascribe in your commentary. The point being, johnny, that hatefulness only breeds future hatefulness from the other side and eventually, they will achieve an historical position of power over your interests and then deliver that same hateful attitude in return. What you sew today, shall be reaped by your ancestors in the future.

The over-riding question remains... when do we stop using these kinds of references to our fellow man, so that some kind of caring realtionship is what is remembered when the future arrives at our doorstep? And it will arrive as sure as you stand there today.

[Evo]

last time you were in Japan was???

after a little while as a gaijin you might not care whether anyone condenses Japanese to Japs....the rest of what you wrote is just good old oversensitivity. None of my Jap mates give a shit about it

Irrelevant. I grew-up in a part of Los Angeles where there is a large popluation of Japanese decendants. They and their parents were confined in internment campsduring WWII and frequently slammed with the derogatory term, Jap, while so interred. That you can't see that this is a reference of the highest derogatroy sense only shames your ability to move on in this life as a man of substance. That your national Japanese friends also see themsleves as "Japs", only speaks to their inability to grasp that they have accepted the term and now negatively view themselves as such.


I tell you what, get your fanny over to Los Angeles, visit the area referred to as South Central and take your brand of derogatory references to the populace while you spray the term, Nigger, about with your pseudo confidence as to feeling that terms of this type are OK. I'll bet you $500 right now that you won't get out of South Central alive with that kind of attitude short of a police escort. Step up, Evo, or stuff it where it belongs. Your opinions don't build racial relationships... they tear them down.

mate...you are off your rocker. For your information I have lived in your country for quite a while and I regularly visit California as I have family there. I do try to avoid SoCal...I've also been to Japan a few times and have Japanese friends here. They call me a name...I don't get offended....I call them "you japs" they haven't been offended so far but sometimes make jokes about jewish american princesses

What you are spouting is more about your own guilt and oversensitive attitudes developed in the USA. You probably want to take all that preachyness to Japan and try it there gaijin....get back to me when you know what you are talking about.

[Surf City Racing]

Can we please keep this thread focused on the topic?

[Chris O]

So, I take it that you are not ready to hang with the Bloods in South Central and call them Niggers?

Everything else you say is weakness personified. Grow a pair and then we'll talk.

[Evo]

So, I take it that you are not ready to hang with the Bloods in South Central and call them Niggers?

Everything else you say is weakness personified. Grow a pair and then we'll talk.

and you clearly are an ignorant buffoon...bugger off

[SA Lurker]

Tell that to the survivors of any hateful pogrom in the history of thie planet and let me know if it's any different for them, than what you ascribe in your commentary. The point being, johnny, that hatefulness only breeds future hatefulness from the other side and eventually, they will achieve an historical position of power over your interests and then deliver that same hateful attitude in return. What you sew today, shall be reaped by your ancestors in the future.

The over-riding question remains... when do we stop using these kinds of references to our fellow man, so that some kind of caring realtionship is what is remembered when the future arrives at our doorstep? And it will arrive as sure as you stand there today.

Agreed in principle.

However, on occasion the consequences quickly become quite real to the original perpetrator(s), Chris O.

Consider the impetus for this thread.

[Chris O]

Can we please keep this thread focused on the topic?

We can when the idiots cease with the rascist commentary that serves no purpose save for their own.



And now that we have arrived here, perhaps we ought to take a long look at just how discriminatory are the comments regarding Dan Meyers, his body shape and if that was ever an issue for Scott and Clean in the first place. It very much looks like Mr. Meyers is about to teach the boys a very hard lesson about social grace and civic awareness, not to mention the function of having one's business entity ground to a hault from excess ego. The bottom line, pending the outcome, is that one should not take on the folks with the cash when one has but a simple argument to present to the judge and little else at one's disposal.

In short, pick your battles.

[hobot]

Party Time!!

[A_guy_in_the_Chesapeake]

So, I take it that you are not ready to hang with the Bloods in South Central and call them Niggers?

Everything else you say is weakness personified. Grow a pair and then we'll talk.

Take it to PA - you're boring me here.

[smackdaddy]

Can we please keep this thread focused on the topic?

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

This looks like a fine contender for a caption contest.

[SA Lurker]

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

Perhaps this explains why Alan has difficulty in getting his foot back out of his mouth?

[ducky]

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

Perhaps this explains why Alan has difficulty in getting his foot back out of his mouth?

[hobot]

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

Perhaps this explains why Alan has difficulty in getting his foot back out of his mouth?

Cankles.

[MR.CLEAN]

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

Perhaps this explains why Alan has difficulty in getting his foot back out of his mouth?

Cankles.

Really? For fuck's sake.

[smackdaddy]

Are Clean's feet really that fat? Heh-heh.

Perhaps this explains why Alan has difficulty in getting his foot back out of his mouth?

Cankles.

Really? For fuck's sake.

C'mon dude, you have to admit...THAT'S FUNNY!

[GybeSet®]

exhibit 'A' : cankles

book him Danno

[Albatros]

Can we please keep this thread focused on the topic?

the pic would be relevant to the topic if that black stripe would be dropped just a few millimeters.... over the lips

[jocal505]

Can we please keep this thread focused on the topic?

When do we see the next ruling? Is SLAPP finished?

Something on Sept. 9. No ruling on anti-SLAPP yet
but prelim rulings are crimping victory celebration planning.

[BogusScum]

Something on Sept. 9. No ruling on anti-SLAPP yet

Is this right? Something coming soon? Does anyone know what will be done at the next hearing? Clean?

[jocal505]

The court record says so. More like something not coming soon.

The litigation seems frivolous and excessive.

And it eats posters and sock puppets, too. FU, Taniwha, Sector 9, mjr, <deleted user>, M Kennedy, Release the Kraken, and our pal DoRag in particular.

The litigation even ate a 162 page thread.

All victims of the evil Boston bacon-eater and blind American justice.

Bogus Scam to the white courtesy telephone....

[Tom Ray]

C'mon dude, you have to admit...THAT'S FUNNY!

Made me laugh!

[GybeSet®]

FORBES

First Marblehead CEO Sues Sailing Blog For Nasty Remarks

Daniel Fisher Forbes Staff

I am a senior editor at Forbes, covering legal affairs, corporate finance, macroeconomics and the occasional sailing story. I was the Southwest Bureau manager for Forbes in Houston from 1999 to 2003, when I returned home to Connecticut for a Knight fellowship at Yale Law School. Before that I worked for Bloomberg Business News in Houston and the late, great Dallas Times Herald and Houston Post. While I am a Chartered Financial Analyst and have a year of law school under my belt, most of what I know about financial journalism, I learned in Texas.

Harsh words at the San Diego Yacht Club [Image via Wikipedia

Sailing Anarchy is the Howard Stern show of the yachting world, an irreverent, often profane website that combines gushing reviews of the latest high-tech gear with slamming put-downs of sailors SA doesn't like. (It also has a regular feature, Sailor Chick of the Week, that some might find blatantly sexist.)

Now SA has gotten an expensive taste of its own medicine in the form of a lawsuit by yachtsman and First Marblehead Chief Executive Daniel M. Meyers.

His lawyers describe the website as "the National Enquirer of the sailing world" and having "a far cry from any claim of objective journalism." Ouch!
We couldn't immediately reach SA publisher Scot Tempesta for comment on the suit filed in state court in San Diego.
But a regular reader would have a hard time concluding the site's contributors would argue with the above description. They delight in running embarrassing photographs of sailors on unglamorous boats, mercilessly attacked billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli on his way to losing the America's Cup, and had particularly vicious things to say about 16-year-old Abby Sunderland's failed attempt to circumnavigate the globe.

Meyers is a serious sailor who races a 60-footer called Numbers. What set him off was a 2009 post with his photograph and a caption identifying him as a "grifter." The lawsuit alleges Tempesta also called him a "white collar criminal" in a conversation with a member of the San Diego Yacht Club and made similar comments in an e-mail to somebody else.

First Marblehead, a student-loan company, did flame out most spectacularly in the early days of the financial crisis. But Meyers, a co-founder, wasn't at the helm then, having resigned in 2005 after a scandal involving gifts to a client. The former Prudential derivatives trader rejoined First Marblehead in September 2008 after the stock had lost most of its value because of the collapsing value of its loan portfolio.

Meyers isn't sparing the firepower in this battle against his digital tormentors. He hired Los Angeles lawyer Barry Langberg, who won $1.6 million for entertainer Carol Burnett in 1976 after the National Enquirer incorrectly reported she'd gotten into a drunken row with Henry Kissinger. He's also represented Rodney Dangerfield, Steve Wynn and Aretha Franklin.

Put a reef in the sail and keep an eye out to weather.

[GybeSet®]

Clean could be in a spot of trouble if this bloke goes for his job

snookered on 4 fronts ???????


I am a senior editor at Forbes, covering legal affairs, corporate finance, macroeconomics and the occasional sailing story. I was the Southwest Bureau manager for Forbes in Houston from 1999 to 2003, when I returned home to Connecticut for a Knight fellowship at Yale Law School. Before that I worked for Bloomberg Business News in Houston and the late, great Dallas Times Herald and Houston Post. While I am a Chartered Financial Analyst and have a year of law school under my belt, most of what I know about financial journalism, I learned in Texas.


How about we give this guy a test spot on SA, after all he writes such nice things i'll bet he couldn't refuse !

we'l tell him about the pay later !

[BogusScum]

mercilessly attacked billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli on his way to losing the America's Cup,

I object to this. Saying bad things about a fellow when he doesn't deserve it might be called 'mercilessly' - But EB is a complete raging fucking twat asshole cunt who tried to mug off with the prize and up to the bitter last moment tried every dirty trick to rig and cheat the contest including fixing the committee. Fuck that piece of garbage. (what mercy - no quarter for that punk who is long gone for the AC now - as it should be)

[BogusScum]

"yachtsman and First Marblehead Chief Executive Daniel M. Meyers. "

lol - that is a funny title for the guy. Clearly, he is a fat pig bastard who is probably soon to be in advanced stages of diabetes with his legs about to be amputated - not to worry, the same disease will make him blind and he'll be unable to see his legs gone missing. Do you know why he doesn't sue me? Because truth is 100% defense to libel and he knows he is indeed a fat pig bastard. But I wish Clean and Ed well on the case. I am not sure if 'grifter' is true or untrue. To me, it sure seems true. Giving improper gifts and getting sacked for it seems like grifting to me. But I am not an expert in grifting so I'll leave it to the judge to determine. I am an expert in fat pig bastards - and he is one of tthose - with a gold plated registration card.

[BogusScum]

Hey! Wait a moment - Somebody is logging in with my account!!? I didn't write that. Sorry Mr Meyers sir - I didn't say anything bad about you. I don't hope you'll die from diabetes. I like you. You seem like a really nice guy to me. Please don't sue the shit out of me. I promise I'll change my password to a stonger one so those idiots don't use my account again.

[GybeSet®]

" They delight in running embarrassing photographs of sailors on unglamorous boats, mercilessly attack ..."


ain't that the truth


" Just outside of harbor a police boat operator hailed me while under tow to inform me that photos were already being placed on the Sailing Anarchy site. I hoisted the SA flag. Might as well admit Murphy had me."

[The Advocate]

Who gives fuck, MSG needs our thoughts.

[GybeSet®]

.
you're confused

[GRUMPY]

.
you're confused

You're fucked.

[the_abandoned_brane]

why are really fat guys with huge egos so easily butthurt all the time?

Im guessing this dan meyers guy cries himself to sleep often over cleans hurtful words.

[BogusScum]

why are really fat guys with huge egos so easily butthurt all the time?

Im guessing this dan meyers guy cries himself to sleep often over cleans hurtful words.

Hey, give the guy a break. If you spent your life with others heaping ridicule upon you at every turn, you'd be a sue happy fucking cunt also. Just think about it, every meeting, every day, this guy has people walking away saying under their breath: "what a fat fucking grifter pig". I can imagine it hurts. I just wish people were nicer to each other and that we all could just get along. Be nice, be happy.

[jocal505]

snookered on 4 fronts ???????

[SA Lurker]

why are really fat guys with huge egos so easily butthurt all the time?

Im guessing this dan meyers guy cries himself to sleep often over cleans hurtful words.

I'm guessing that Alan is choosing his "hurtful words" a bit more carefully these days...at least, the venue for same.

[DA-WOODY]

" They delight in running embarrassing photographs of sailors on unglamorous boats, mercilessly attack ..."

ain't that the truth

" Just outside of harbor a police boat operator hailed me while under tow to inform me that photos were already being placed on the Sailing Anarchy site. I hoisted the SA flag. Might as well admit Murphy had me."

What a CLASSick photo from the "Fun" Daze of SA

rare find from the world navigation of Frank M. on the PowerSteeringWheel

while Guy was down below with Mrs, Frank working the GrindHer

Oh for those Fun daze again ............................................

how TF did you dig up that old photo

I mean you found a photo of one of those with the sails actually hoisted

not to mention the fit & trim seam to be getting so much more out of those 1D sails

Guy must have had them made at his loft while cutting sails for the aborted AC campaign

GUY Come Back - Post that Video from your presentation in Cannes: "GUY, Mrs Frank & a Winch Handle"

that was one of the best 4D movies yet

[Dawg Gonit]

FORBES

First Marblehead CEO Sues Sailing Blog For Nasty Remarks

Daniel Fisher Forbes Staff

I am a senior editor at Forbes, covering legal affairs, corporate finance, macroeconomics and the occasional sailing story. I was the Southwest Bureau manager for Forbes in Houston from 1999 to 2003, when I returned home to Connecticut for a Knight fellowship at Yale Law School. Before that I worked for Bloomberg Business News in Houston and the late, great Dallas Times Herald and Houston Post. While I am a Chartered Financial Analyst and have a year of law school under my belt, most of what I know about financial journalism, I learned in Texas.

Harsh words at the San Diego Yacht Club [Image via Wikipedia

Sailing Anarchy is the Howard Stern show of the yachting world, an irreverent, often profane website that combines gushing reviews of the latest high-tech gear with slamming put-downs of sailors SA doesn't like. (It also has a regular feature, Sailor Chick of the Week, that some might find blatantly sexist.)

Now SA has gotten an expensive taste of its own medicine in the form of a lawsuit by yachtsman and First Marblehead Chief Executive Daniel M. Meyers.

His lawyers describe the website as "the National Enquirer of the sailing world" and having "a far cry from any claim of objective journalism." Ouch!
We couldn't immediately reach SA publisher Scot Tempesta for comment on the suit filed in state court in San Diego.
But a regular reader would have a hard time concluding the site's contributors would argue with the above description. They delight in running embarrassing photographs of sailors on unglamorous boats, mercilessly attacked billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli on his way to losing the America's Cup, and had particularly vicious things to say about 16-year-old Abby Sunderland's failed attempt to circumnavigate the globe.

Meyers is a serious sailor who races a 60-footer called Numbers. What set him off was a 2009 post with his photograph and a caption identifying him as a "grifter." The lawsuit alleges Tempesta also called him a "white collar criminal" in a conversation with a member of the San Diego Yacht Club and made similar comments in an e-mail to somebody else.

First Marblehead, a student-loan company, did flame out most spectacularly in the early days of the financial crisis. But Meyers, a co-founder, wasn't at the helm then, having resigned in 2005 after a scandal involving gifts to a client. The former Prudential derivatives trader rejoined First Marblehead in September 2008 after the stock had lost most of its value because of the collapsing value of its loan portfolio.

Meyers isn't sparing the firepower in this battle against his digital tormentors. He hired Los Angeles lawyer Barry Langberg, who won $1.6 million for entertainer Carol Burnett in 1976 after the National Enquirer incorrectly reported she'd gotten into a drunken row with Henry Kissinger. He's also represented Rodney Dangerfield, Steve Wynn and Aretha Franklin.

Put a reef in the sail and keep an eye out to weather.

That's the funniest bit of writing I seen in a while. He should write for SA.

[Monster Mash]

Hmmm, how long till the fat lady sings?

[GybeSet®]

FORBES

First Marblehead CEO Sues Sailing Blog For Nasty Remarks

Daniel Fisher Forbes Staff

I am a senior editor at Forbes, covering legal affairs, corporate finance, macroeconomics and the occasional sailing story. I was the Southwest Bureau manager for Forbes in Houston from 1999 to 2003, when I returned home to Connecticut for a Knight fellowship at Yale Law School. Before that I worked for Bloomberg Business News in Houston and the late, great Dallas Times Herald and Houston Post. While I am a Chartered Financial Analyst and have a year of law school under my belt, most of what I know about financial journalism, I learned in Texas.

Harsh words at the San Diego Yacht Club [Image via Wikipedia
Sailing Anarchy is the Howard Stern show of the yachting world, an irreverent, often profane website that combines gushing reviews of the latest high-tech gear with slamming put-downs of sailors SA doesn't like. (It also has a regular feature, Sailor Chick of the Week, that some might find blatantly sexist.)

Now SA has gotten an expensive taste of its own medicine in the form of a lawsuit by yachtsman and First Marblehead Chief Executive Daniel M. Meyers.

His lawyers describe the website as "the National Enquirer of the sailing world" and having "a far cry from any claim of objective journalism." Ouch!
We couldn't immediately reach SA publisher Scot Tempesta for comment on the suit filed in state court in San Diego.
But a regular reader would have a hard time concluding the site's contributors would argue with the above description. They delight in running embarrassing photographs of sailors on unglamorous boats, mercilessly attacked billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli on his way to losing the America's Cup, and had particularly vicious things to say about 16-year-old Abby Sunderland's failed attempt to circumnavigate the globe.

Meyers is a serious sailor who races a 60-footer called Numbers. What set him off was a 2009 post with his photograph and a caption identifying him as a "grifter." The lawsuit alleges Tempesta also called him a "white collar criminal" in a conversation with a member of the San Diego Yacht Club and made similar comments in an e-mail to somebody else.

First Marblehead, a student-loan company, did flame out most spectacularly in the early days of the financial crisis. But Meyers, a co-founder, wasn't at the helm then, having resigned in 2005 after a scandal involving gifts to a client. The former Prudential derivatives trader rejoined First Marblehead in September 2008 after the stock had lost most of its value because of the collapsing value of its loan portfolio.

Meyers isn't sparing the firepower in this battle against his digital tormentors. He hired Los Angeles lawyer Barry Langberg, who won $1.6 million for entertainer Carol Burnett in 1976 after the National Enquirer incorrectly reported she'd gotten into a drunken row with Henry Kissinger. He's also represented Rodney Dangerfield, Steve Wynn and Aretha Franklin.

Put a reef in the sail and keep an eye out to weather.

That's the funniest bit of writing I seen in a while. He should write for SA.

very understated i thought

and oh, hey make it happen !

with the appropriate preamble/credentials as above

[DA-WOODY]

What would happen to these hallows

"IF" Dan Meyers stepped up and covered MSG's "operation and rehab" etc. expenses out of pocket

we only know what we hear

Ahhhhhhhhh Could anyone be that Big of a Man (bu OH - what a card to play )

[BogusScum]

"IF" Dan Meyers stepped up ...
...be that Big of a Man (bu OH - what a card to play )

I'll bet rich people are sick and tired of hearing what 'kind of a man' poor people think they'd be if they would only 'step up' and spend their money on things the poor people care about.

[steveromagnino]

"IF" Dan Meyers stepped up ...
...be that Big of a Man (bu OH - what a card to play )

I'll bet rich people are sick and tired of hearing what 'kind of a man' poor people think they'd be if they would only 'step up' and spend their money on things the poor people care about.

I know I am. From the vast fortune made in banking, I always feel a desire to share and be equal with 'the common man'.

When I see beggars on the street, I feel that underneath that strong need for money to eat and possibly a fix, is the stronger need for social acceptance and self actualisation; a reverse Maslow's heirachy of needs so to speak.

Therefore I always make a point of getting the beggar to perform a social service which will help them exercise, and also to address the 5th need in the heirachy. For instance I will often request a small dance, a modern interpretation of Smooth Criminal or even a more basic and rudimentary Snow Lake shuffle, in return for a small payment. As part of the payment routine, I wish to show that my money is not coming from a social strata that is above the beggar, and therefore I throw the coins on the ground, to be picked up, thus demonstrating that I too, have my feet and money attached to the ground.

On other occasions, I ensure that I completely capture and devote full attention to the beggar in order to allow him or her to self actualise, by walking quickly, staring at the ground, randomly patting my trouser pockets, and mumbling quietly sorry I don't have any change.

If all rich grifters were as generous as I am with their time, then perhaps the world would be a safer and better place. For rich people.

Every once in a while, in my walks around town, I do see the social service has worked; I can sometimes hear beggars muttering 'what a complete banker' in reference to my occupation and status, although some have a speech impediment that seems to convert b to w.

I emplore all the richy riches out there, be they money skimming student loan style complete bankers, or actual real philathropists, to do as I do...and then and only then can we provide change you can believe in dance to.

[kinardly]

Loved it. You have a gift, Man! How long did it take you to write that down?

[redboat]

Anything new from the court?

[WHYME]

So is there anything to report??

[steveromagnino]

So is there anything to report??

Yeah, note to (rich) self, do not donate money to that girl that stands on the corner of Ventura and Laurel Canyon at 3am.

If you give her $100 USD, in order to ensure that she keeps her dignity and performs a worthwhile service for her self actualisation, she insists on dragging the person (or as she refers to them, a filthy grifter pervert john) around the corner, and providing 'services' until 'satisfaction'

While the $100 bills are easy to dispense, since rich people use as toilet paper and also for picking wiping up food and drinks spills, the bushes around said corner have proved both prickly and also somehow capable of causing an irritating rash and even a milky discharge which seems to burn with the longing of a student wanting access to easy credit with which to buy beer, a length of plastic hose and a funnel.

[thetruth]

So is there anything to report??

Yeah, note to (rich) self, do not donate money to that girl that stands on the corner of Ventura and Laurel Canyon at 3am.

If you give her $100 USD, in order to ensure that she keeps her dignity and performs a worthwhile service for her self actualisation, she insists on dragging the person (or as she refers to them, a filthy grifter pervert john) around the corner, and providing 'services' until 'satisfaction'

While the $100 bills are easy to dispense, since rich people use as toilet paper and also for picking wiping up food and drinks spills, the bushes around said corner have proved both prickly and also somehow capable of causing an irritating rash and even a milky discharge which seems to burn with the longing of a student wanting access to easy credit with which to buy beer, a length of plastic hose and a funnel.

Love your work. You must be related to the classic's of all Beck's surely?

[steveromagnino]

Love your work. You must be related to the classic's of all Beck's surely?

granted you bring some good game, but your use of "'" leads me to believe you are not who you say you are, Carl "The Truth" Williams.

[thetruth]

Carl is dead get over it. Earle was almost caught smuggling brains into Ireland but the keel snapped. Did you ever marry the blow up doll you took to eateries on the Shore in the 80's?

Love your work. You must be related to the classic's of all Beck's surely?

granted you bring some good game, but your use of "'" leads me to believe you are not who you say you are, Carl "The Truth" Williams.

[steveromagnino]

No blow up dolls, not in the 80s, I was still at school! U are berry mistaken if you believe I could be the talented pita bread and peas in the toaster eating cuzzie bro of mine, also well known for his shared occupation of that grand palace on Taka beach shared between several sailors.

Speaking of grifters, let's get back on subject.....

[thetruth]

Ah the bro. Tried winding up everyone no bites so off to PlaySchool (Political Anarchy) Kia Kaha Bro

No blow up dolls, not in the 80s, I was still at school! U are berry mistaken if you believe I could be the talented pita bread and peas in the toaster eating cuzzie bro of mine, also well known for his shared occupation of that grand palace on Taka beach shared between several sailors.

Speaking of grifters, let's get back on subject.....

[steveromagnino]

sweet as.

Fancy a chup bro?

Or a cheap student loan?

sweet as.

I'll save some chups for you if you head up this way.

[thetruth]

Three hookers and a (few) gram thanks, pom rakoon

[steveromagnino]

oh ho.... I don't wanna know where you learned that. :-)

LOL

[thetruth]

The one and only pal

[smackdaddy]

So where is the case at this point? Anyone know?

It's been quiet. Too quiet.

[DoRag]

So where is the case at this point? Anyone know?

It's been quiet. Too quiet.

DM prevailed in court and SA no longer exists.

[smackdaddy]

So where is the case at this point? Anyone know?

It's been quiet. Too quiet.

DM prevailed in court and SA no longer exists.

Wow...that's....existential.

[DoRag]

SA is now simply an analogue of an artifact.

RIP.

[walterbshaffer]

So where is the case at this point? Anyone know?

It's been quiet. Too quiet.

DM prevailed in court and SA no longer exists.

haha - good one.

[Moonduster]

That explains an awful lot ...

[John Gault]

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA,
MINUTE ORDER
TIME: 01:30:00 PM
JUDICIAL OFFICER PRESIDING: Earl H. Maas, III
COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO
NORTH COUNTY
DATE: 09/09/2011 DEPT: N-28
CLERK: Noreen McKinley
REPORTER/ERM: Not Reported
BAILIFF/COURT ATTENDANT:
CASE NO: 37-2010-00057972-CU-DF-NC CASE INIT.DATE: 08/04/2010
CASE TITLE: Meyers vs. Tempesta
CASE CATEGORY: Civil - Unlimited CASE TYPE: Defamation
EVENT TYPE: SLAPP / SLAPPback Motion Hearing
APPEARANCES There are no appearances by any party.
All parties submit(s) on the Court's tentative ruling.
The Court confirms the tentative ruling as follows:
Defendants Scot Tempesta, Alan Block and Sailing Anarchy, Inc.'s Special Motion to Strike Plaintiff's
First Amended Complaint is denied.
The first issue is whether the statements arise from protected activity. The moving defendant bears the
initial burden of establishing a prima facie showing that the plaintiff's cause of action arises from the
defendant's free speech or petition activity. (Equilon Enterprises, L.L.C. v. Consumer Cause, Inc. (2002)
29 Cal.4th 53, 61.) The defendant need only show that the causes of action arise from protected activity.
Here, Plaintiff concedes the statement at issue in the first cause of action arises from Defendants' free
speech or petition activity. Plaintiff contests the statements in the second and third causes of action fall
under the first prong of the statute.
The statements at issue in the second and third causes of action arise from private conversations where
Tempesta communicates his opinion on Meyers and his business dealings. Defendants contend Meyers'
acts as head of First Marblehead made the comments a matter of public interest. Statements fall within
the first prong of CCP §425.16 if the statements, oral or written, made in a public forum or public place
"in connection with an issue of public interest". (CCP §425.16(e).) Since the conversations were private,
they do not fall within this subsection. Defendants argue private conversations which involve issues of
public concern may still fall within the statute. The statements at issue, that Plaintiff is a white collar
criminal and stole millions of dollars, is not a public issue of the type which generally falls under this
subsection. For example, in Wilcox v. Superior Court (1994) 27 Cal.App.4th 809, 815, the private
DATE: 09/09/2011 MINUTE ORDER Page 1
DEPT: N-28 Calendar No.
CASE TITLE: Meyers vs. Tempesta CASE NO: 37-2010-00057972-CU-DF-NC
statements "the free speech activity which formed the basis of the suit, consisted of a memorandum,
circulated privately among court reporters, inviting them to participate in a lawsuit attacking exclusive
contracts with insurance companies." In Averill v. Superior Court (1996) 42 Cal.App.4th 1170, 1175, "the
allegedly slanderous statements arose in the context of a public issue, i.e., the placement of a shelter in
petitioner's neighborhood." The subject of the conversation does not involve an issue of public concern,
and the motion to strike is denied as to the second and third causes of action since they do not fall within
the first prong of the statute.
Once the defendant has established this prima facie showing, the burden shifts to the plaintiff to
establish "a probability that the plaintiff will prevail on the claim". (CCP §425.16(.) "Put another way,
the plaintiff 'must demonstrate that the complaint is both legally sufficient and supported by a sufficient
prima facie showing of facts to sustain a favorable judgment if the evidence submitted by the plaintiff is
credited.' " (Wilson v. Parker, Covert & Chidester (2002) 28 Cal.4th 811, 821 quoting Matson v. Dvorak
(1995) 40 Cal.App.4th 539, 548.) Plaintiff in opposition must rely upon competent admissible evidence
within the personal knowledge of the declarant. Declarations "on information and belief" are of no
moment. (Evans v.Unkow (1995) 38 Cal.App.4th 1490, 1497.)
At issue in this case is the reference to Plaintiff as a "grifter." Defendants contend the term "grifter" is not
one which is provably false since it can mean a person who operates a side show at a circus in addition
to it s ordinary definition of con artist or swindler. Plaintiff has also submitted the declaration of an
expert, Edward Finegan, which supports a determination the term "grifter" means swindler. (Finegan
Dec. Para. 5-8.) This appears to be consistent with the terms common usage. Plaintiff has submitted his
declaration which has stated he is not a "grifter" since he has never stolen money and does not make
false representations in order to obtain money. (Meyers Dec. Para. 8.) Thus, Plaintiff has shown a
probability of success on the merits as to the first cause of action.
Defendants contend Plaintiff is a public figure and so he must demonstrate "malice." There are two types
of public figures for the purposes of defamation. "The first is the "all purpose" public figure who has
"achiev[ed] such pervasive fame or notoriety that he becomes a public figure for all purposes and in all
contexts." The second category is that of the "limited purpose" or "vortex" public figure, an individual who
"voluntarily injects himself or is drawn into a particular public controversy and thereby becomes a public
figure for a limited range of issues." (Citation omitted.) ... a "public figure" plaintiff must have undertaken
some voluntary act through which he seeks to influence the resolution of the public issues involved. "
(Reader's Digest Assn. v. Superior Court (1984) 37 Cal.3d 244, 253.) Defendants assert Plaintiff is an
all-purpose public figure. However, Defendants have failed to meet their burden Plaintiff is an all purpose
public figure, especially as to the issue involved here. Defendants merely assert that as a CEO of a
publicly traded company, he is a public figure. Even if Defendants could meet their burden in this regard,
Defendants have failed to establish a link between Plaintiff as CEO and the alleged "public issue" here.
Since Defendants have failed to meet their burden, Plaintiff is not required to show malice in order to
prevail on his claim.
In the alternative, if Plaintiff is determined to be a public figure, Plaintiff has established malice. "Malice"
requires a showing the statement was made with knowledge it was false or with reckless disregard of
whether it was false or not. (Reader's Digest at 257.) The depositions of Tempesta and Block support a
finding they had no basis for believing the "grifter" statement was true. (Tempesta Depo. 17:13-18:7;
Block Depo. 24:1-9.) Thus, in the alternative, Plaintiff can show the statements were made with malice.
Plaintiff's request for attorney's fees must be addressed via separate motion.
DATE: 09/09/2011 MINUTE ORDER Page 2
DEPT: N-28 Calendar No.
CASE TITLE: Meyers vs. Tempesta CASE NO: 37-2010-00057972-CU-DF-NC
Defendants' evidentiary objections are overruled.
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[trenace]

Ouchie-ouch.

You know they're going to be feeling THAT one in the morning.

[jocal505]

So where is the case at this point? Anyone know?

It's been quiet. Too quiet

PAGING FU. FU to Aisle one. Case #37-2010-00057972-CU-DF-NC
North County Automated System 760-201-8400






After the August Minute Order, there was a postponement 9-9 to a date never identified. The re-scheduled hearing may have come and gone...


CASE TITLE: Meyers vs. Tempesta CASE NO: 37-2010-00057972-CU-DF-NC
SLAPP / SLAPPback Motion Hearing is continued pursuant to party's motion to 09/09/2011 at 01:30PM
in Department N-28.

[trenace]

SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA,
JUDICIAL OFFICER PRESIDING: Earl H. Maas, III
The Court confirms the tentative ruling as follows: Defendants Scot Tempesta, Alan Block and Sailing Anarchy, Inc.'s Special Motion to Strike Plaintiff's First Amended Complaint is denied.

[snip]

Defendants assert Plaintiff is an all-purpose public figure. However, Defendants have failed to meet their burden Plaintiff is an all purpose public figure, especially as to the issue involved here. Defendants merely assert that as a CEO of a publicly traded company, he is a public figure. Even if Defendants could meet their burden in this regard, Defendants have failed to establish a link between Plaintiff as CEO and the alleged "public issue" here. Since Defendants have failed to meet their burden, Plaintiff is not required to show malice in order to prevail on his claim. In the alternative, if Plaintiff is determined to be a public figure, Plaintiff has established malice. "Malice" requires a showing the statement was made with knowledge it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not. (Reader's Digest at 257.) The depositions of Tempesta and Block support a finding they had no basis for believing the "grifter" statement was true. (Tempesta Depo. 17:13-18:7;

[snip]

Defendants' evidentiary objections are overruled.

Although the Professor chose not to do anything with the maximum-strength apology letter that I drafted for him, perchance do you think the defendants may be in need of a high-octane apology letter at this time?

[John Gault]

Me thinks that ship has sailed!

Also appears from the SDSC website that SA and the boys may be appealing that ruling, and that Kennedy may be off the case. Trial is set for February 2012.

[Liquid]

"Plaintiff can show the statements were made with malice.

Plaintiff's request for attorney's fees must be addressed via separate motion."



DM's lawyers can't be cheap!!! Doesn't 'sound' too good...

[SailRacer]

ER, Houston, we have a problem....

Sail safe!

[Lono]

That explains an awful lot ...

Very funny... +1

[dudewood]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

[Lono]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

"Waist of time" could have been a great pun but I am afraid you meant "waste of time"...

[the_abandoned_brane]

I bet meyers snorts when he eats, and uses a stick to wipe his ass.

[trenace]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

GRIFTER.

Not "Gifter."

Unfortunately, depositions being over, it's too late to remember having a terrible speech impediment / spelling problem.

[dudewood]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

"Waist of time" could have been a great pun but I am afraid you meant "waste of time"...

Yes. It was an accidental funny....

[dudewood]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

GRIFTER.

Not "Gifter."

Unfortunately, depositions being over, it's too late to remember having a terrible speech impediment / spelling problem.

of improper financial gifts = swindler (as per the motion hearing).

[Raked aft \\]

Without reading through all the bs...

Was it ever determined if SA carries any coverage for media liability, ie libel/slander??

[smackdaddy]

Me thinks that ship has sailed!

Also appears from the SDSC website that SA and the boys may be appealing that ruling, and that Kennedy may be off the case. Trial is set for February 2012.

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

[MKennedy]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

['moondance44]

Even Vegas stoppped giving odds on SA winning this case
Once their half-a-retard lawyer started posting
Dumb comments on the case in the forum.
What was his name again?

[smackdaddy]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

Heh-heh. I guess that tidbit isn't true?

If it is true, wouldn't it suck to find out about it here?!?

[smackdaddy]

Even Vegas stoppped giving odds on SA winning this case
Once their half-a-retard lawyer started posting
Dumb comments on the case in the forum.
What was his name again?

Ahhmmmmm....the guy just above your last post: MKennedy.

[kent_island_sailor]

The one danger here to DM is that SA actually goes and proves he IS a grifter

[Mojo Risin]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

Aren't the people who would start SA2 also defendants?

[jocal505]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

Howdy, stranger. Planning a lee bow?
Gonna cover Numbers with an FT10.

[dudewood]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

Aren't the people who would start SA2 also defendants?

yea. so what?

[John Gault]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

The Court's ROA shows SA and the boys filing a substitution of attorney, and assumed you were gone. Sorry.

[MKennedy]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

The Court's ROA shows SA and the boys filing a substitution of attorney, and assumed you were gone. Sorry.

No worries. I changed firms and took the file; hence the substitution.

[MKennedy]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

Howdy, stranger. Planning a lee bow?
Gonna cover Numbers with an FT10.

Have to. Not crossing and it's a big duck.

[elle]

not this shit again....still find it utterly ridiculous that anyone, least of all a court of law, is taking this foolishness seriously. so the fat fuck (that's provable, right? anyone would have to agree) is still complaining that a comment, that may or may not have been said, that he himself brought to attention, gave him a sore assneck. what a tool (i can say that since it is commonly a screwdriver, hammer or somesuch).
he should buy himself a clue...people think he is a fool because of his own actions, not some alleged backroom offhand comment or a pic of his fat ass combined with an archaic term half (or more) people here couldn't have defined if he'd have bought them a pretty watch.

where in the world is nes pas san diego? he, surely, is the life of the party.

[Sol Rosenberg]

It's winter time and the boats are put away. Nothing to do.... Time for a Clean Roast. The thread about the guy beating his girlfriend didn't pan out for the circle jerk, so this thread is the next logical candidate. Try not to squirt each other in the face, boys.

[DoRag]

Woah! MK got the boot? Who saw that coming?

Thanks for the update JG.

I did? That's news to me.

The Court's ROA shows SA and the boys filing a substitution of attorney, and assumed you were gone. Sorry.

No worries. I changed firms and took the file; hence the substitution.

Did you take the A/R?

[Mojo Risin]

So, a question to all the legal minds out there...

Does this mean that the SA must PROVE that DM is a "grifter"? That does not seem so difficult with his past history of improper financial gifts. It only takes one time.

...or what other legal strategies will SA have now that there is this ruling?

Also.... who cares if SA loses and is ordered to pay fees? They will just declare bankruptcy and start SA2 right?

One more thing... If DM wins, how is he going to prove damages?

Sorry for the rambling, but this whole thing is just stupid and a waist of time.

Aren't the people who would start SA2 also defendants?

yea. so what?

Because this would just be another asset subject to collection of a judgment. Would not do much good.

[nolatom]

Leaving aside the question of whether whatever was on SA was libelous..

What's he going to prove for damages?

Did this "comment" change anything at all about how his business would've turned out anyway?

Or, he's so thin-skinned that it's made his life less happy?

[smackdaddy]

It's winter time and the boats are put away. Nothing to do.... Time for a Clean Roast. The thread about the guy beating his girlfriend didn't pan out for the circle jerk, so this thread is the next logical candidate. Try not to squirt each other in the face, boys.

+1!

[jocal505]

not this shit again....still find it utterly ridiculous that anyone, least of all a court of law, is taking this foolishness seriously. so the fat fuck (that's provable, right? anyone would have to agree) is still complaining that a comment, that may or may not have been said, that he himself brought to attention, gave him a sore assneck. what a tool (i can say that since it is commonly a screwdriver, hammer or somesuch).
he should buy himself a clue...people think he is a fool because of his own actions, not some alleged backroom offhand comment or a pic of his fat ass combined with an archaic term half (or more) people here couldn't have defined if he'd have bought them a pretty watch.

where in the world is nes pas san diego? he, surely, is the life of the party.

[DoRag]

not this shit again....still find it utterly ridiculous that anyone, least of all a court of law, is taking this foolishness seriously. so the fat fuck (that's provable, right? anyone would have to agree) is still complaining that a comment, that may or may not have been said, that he himself brought to attention, gave him a sore assneck. what a tool (i can say that since it is commonly a screwdriver, hammer or somesuch).
he should buy himself a clue...people think he is a fool because of his own actions, not some alleged backroom offhand comment or a pic of his fat ass combined with an archaic term half (or more) people here couldn't have defined if he'd have bought them a pretty watch.

where in the world is nes pas san diego? he, surely, is the life of the party.

Unfortunately, Mr Nes Pas has become yet another victum of the BHO economic policies. His employment is off until such time as DSM unleashes him to serve the notices. In the meantime, Mr. Nes Pas lives in a tent outside SDYC behind the tennis courts. He now uses food stamps to buy rice. He just patiently hangs out around his tent, humming softly, grunting occasionally, chatting with the Mexican gardners, sharpening his knife and collecting more camo bushes to put in his helmet.

[Clove Hitch]

not this shit again....still find it utterly ridiculous that anyone, least of all a court of law, is taking this foolishness seriously. so the fat fuck (that's provable, right? anyone would have to agree) is still complaining that a comment, that may or may not have been said, that he himself brought to attention, gave him a sore assneck. what a tool (i can say that since it is commonly a screwdriver, hammer or somesuch).
he should buy himself a clue...people think he is a fool because of his own actions, not some alleged backroom offhand comment or a pic of his fat ass combined with an archaic term half (or more) people here couldn't have defined if he'd have bought them a pretty watch.

where in the world is nes pas san diego? he, surely, is the life of the party.

Unfortunately, Mr Nes Pas has become yet another victum of the BHO economic policies. His employment is off until such time as DSM unleashes him to serve the notices. In the meantime, Mr. Nes Pas lives in a tent outside SDYC behind the tennis courts. He now uses food stamps to buy rice. He just patiently hangs out around his tent, humming softly, grunting occasionally, chatting with the Mexican gardners, sharpening his knife and collecting more camo bushes to put in his helmet.

If I recall he didn't appreciate you speaking for him and showed up on the forums to call you a REMF. How's the gout, ol' chap? Must be vexing you something fierce.

[jocal505]

not this shit again....still find it utterly ridiculous that anyone, least of all a court of law, is taking this foolishness seriously. so the fat fuck (that's provable, right? anyone would have to agree) is still complaining that a comment, that may or may not have been said, that he himself brought to attention, gave him a sore assneck. what a tool (i can say that since it is commonly a screwdriver, hammer or somesuch).
he should buy himself a clue...people think he is a fool because of his own actions, not some alleged backroom offhand comment or a pic of his fat ass combined with an archaic term half (or more) people here couldn't have defined if he'd have bought them a pretty watch.

where in the world is nes pas san diego? he, surely, is the life of the party.

Unfortunately, Mr Nes Pas has become yet another victum of the BHO economic policies. His employment is off until such time as DSM unleashes him to serve the notices. In the meantime, Mr. Nes Pas lives in a tent outside SDYC behind the tennis courts. He now uses food stamps to buy rice. He just patiently hangs out around his tent, humming softly, grunting occasionally, chatting with the Mexican gardners, sharpening his knife and collecting more camo bushes to put in his helmet.