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#1 GybeSet®

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 07:49 AM

SPIN ?

This isn't adding up ?

Luddes boat is(was) 90' and I don't think it won two world maxi champs

so which boat is it? note it weighs 20 tonnes which is well south of any of the current 100 footers

http://www.audi.com....torey-tall.html linky


More information of the yacht and its race plans will be available after its arrival in Singapore. we will give details later when we have to ?


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:03 AM

The last Nicorette was 90' I believe. And it had a canting keel. No to shure about the weight though..

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:09 AM

Ah got it! It was renamed yuuzoo, more info here: http://yuusail.com/web/yacht.html

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:30 AM

yeah thats the 90'er, which began life as the 80'er Nicorette

the press release above is saying 30m and

it holds several world records and has already won two Maxi World Championships.



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Posted 19 August 2011 - 11:18 AM

Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 11:34 AM

So it's a proposed graphics job that holds ??several world records and has won two Maxi world championships ???



and as a 90 falls well short of 30mtr even including the bowsprit ?

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 11:08 AM

Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


hahaha so Ludde is like Jim Cooney, no one will sail with him.... until they get the offer to sail!

Sydney is such a shithole/spin capital of Aus Sailing, take the latest info with a pinch of salt

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 08:43 PM

What a load of crap.
The boat belongs in the Whitsundays taking backpackers out on day trips with a bloody big Eski full of ice cold beer. The boat is a shit box.

Don't let the truth get in the road of a good story .

Great marketing though !!!



Jul 29, 2011
Audi sails 14-storey-tall supermaxi yacht to SingaporeFirst supermaxi yacht to sail into Singapore; named the “Audi ultra lightweight” for upcoming Audi A6 launch


► Yacht to be docked at Marina Bay for three months from August till October and will thereafter participate in regattas in the region
► Part of collaboration with the Singapore Sailing Federation and the newly-established Singapore Big Boat Racing Team to support and nurture the national sailing team

Audi Singapore is about to create waves with the “Audi ultra lightweight” supermaxi yacht, which will sail into Marina Bay next month as part of the new Audi A6 launch. This is the first time a yacht of this superlative class and size will be anchored here, and Singaporeans will get a chance to see it from the plaza of Marina Bay Sands from end-August till September before being moored at One Degree 15 Marina Club.

The yacht is also part of Audi’s collaboration with the Singapore Sailing Federation and the Singapore Big Boat Racing Team, which was recently set up by the famous yachtsman Mr Ludde Ingvall. The joint effort by the three parties aims to utilise the boat to support the training of the national sailing team.

Measuring 30m long and 40m tall (approximately 14 storeys), with a sail that is nearly the size of five tennis courts, the Audi ultra lightweight is a game-changer in the world of competitive sailboats. Being one of only seven supermaxi yachts in the world, it utilises cutting-edge design and construction technology that allows it to be extremely light – just like the new Audi A6. The yacht weighs just 20 tonnes, approximately 10 tonnes lighter than a boat of comparable size. The incredible nautical machine is also rated for 33 knots (61km/h) or 17m per second, making it one of the fastest sailboats in the world – it holds several world records and has already won two Maxi World Championships.

Mr Reinhold Carl, Managing Director of Audi Singapore, says: “Audi Singapore is proud and excited to partner the new Singapore Big Boat Racing Team and the Singapore Sailing Federation for this initiative. It’s more than a technical showcase for Audi to communicate the benefits of lightweight design – a big theme in our campaign to launch the new Audi A6 sedan. It’s also an important platform to provide young sailors in Singapore with a chance to hone their skills on a world-class watercraft.”

The Audi ultra lightweight boat will be helmed by Mr Ingvall, who has claimed several international championships, speed records and has sailed twice around the world. As the Director of the Singapore Big Boat Racing Team, the Finnish-born Australian resident hopes to give Singaporean sailors a leg up to reach the pinnacle of competitive sailing. Working with the Singapore Sailing Federation and Singapore Sports Council, Ingvall is in town to recruit young, local sailors to form at least half of the crew for the new “Audi ultra Racing Team”. He will then lead the team to compete with the A6-branded supermaxi yacht in the region’s best regattas and make speed record attempts from October onwards.

Mr Ingvall says: “With the support of Audi, I will do everything in my power, together with my partners, Ron Creevey and Thomas Zilliac, to deliver a game-changing sporting project for Singapore and help position it as home of world-class, competitive yachtsmen. It is a wonderful opportunity to be able to give Singapore’s young sailing talent the break of a lifetime that they truly deserve.”

More information of the yacht and its race plans will be available after its arrival in Singapore.


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Posted 20 August 2011 - 09:03 PM

So I'm wondering....what makes it such a shitbox?

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:22 AM

This is 'clever marketing' from Audi, nothing more. The term "Audi ultra lightweight technology" relates exclusively to Audi's own vision of it's technology & has no tangible link to the actual YuuZoo junker. YuuZoo is a billboard

"The more than 200-square meter spinnaker is now emblazoned with the inscription "Audi ultra – lightweight technology," through which Audi visualizes its lightweight technology expertise also in the MedCup. All lightweight technologies of the company will be collectively covered by this phrase in the future. The transfer from the road to the sea is logical as materials like carbon fiber are not only desirable in motorsport and production vehicles but also in sailing. This makes the Audi boats equally authentic and spectacular ambassadors of ultra-lightweight technology."

Audi media linky

So I'm wondering....what makes it such a shitbox?


It's a lardy piece of crap that's held together with tape & chewing gum. Mr Ingvall runs his campaigns on less than cost (read into that what you might) which further detracts from the ongoing performance of the aging boat. He cobbles together crew from wherever he can on the promise of whatever Mr Ingvall believes will get him bodies (read into that what you might) onboard. Said bodies combine with tape & chewing gum to produce under whelming results & this process is repeated ad nauseum - occasionally interspersed with small second rate improvements so Mr Ingvall can steal some more 'clever marketing' during the pre-race media jostle

FWIW I can't remember seeing Ingvall in any world maxi results ever

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:56 AM

.....and the bullshit continues, fuck me.

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 10:26 AM

a marketing tool ?

or



a tool for marketing ?

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 03:36 PM

a marketing tool ?

or



a tool for marketing ?


fixed it for you ;) .

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

a marketing tool ?


Obviously, don't be so dull. Think about it: why would Audi put the A6 on the job? Why? It doesn't signify that the boat is fast, because if the boat was fast, they'd put the R8 there, no their most popular sedan. It's 100% a marketing tool, nothing else.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:29 PM

Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


He flicked you off the boat eh?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:28 PM


Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


He flicked you off the boat eh?


Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!



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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:12 PM



Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


He flicked you off the boat eh?


Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!

Mmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:37 PM




Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


He flicked you off the boat eh?


Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!

Mmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?

Just dont like whingers, work hard and enjoy the fun - worlds full of people like that dick head and none deserve to sail in any crew real sailors dont cry - enough said

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:07 AM

So the boat is inside Marina Bay in Singapore being converted into a large billboard in front of the casino. I am sure it will be lit up for the F1 night race next month and get plenty of coverage for the Audi A6.

Had to do some gymnastics though to get under the bridge...


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Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:10 AM

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:17 AM

The 3 guys hiking look funny. Good stuff punter

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:30 AM

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Too Good !

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 03:13 AM


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Too Good !


Also available for weddings...

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:33 AM

what held the mast down ?

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:40 AM

Nice looking bridge....

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:21 AM

so Audi are crashing the sng F1 party

which had Renault Lotus Mercedes Ferrari but no Audi

I hope the authorities ensured that the boat had a return ticket out of that harbour

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:08 AM



How to get your boat under a bridge.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:14 AM



How to get your boat under a bridge.

New job a bit slow mate?

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:44 AM




How to get your boat under a bridge.

New job a bit slow mate?


Nah. All a case of time management...

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 09:21 AM





Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it :angry:


He flicked you off the boat eh?


Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!

Mmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?

Just dont like whingers, work hard and enjoy the fun - worlds full of people like that dick head and none deserve to sail in any crew real sailors dont cry - enough said


Mr. NotScared have you ever been involved in a maxi campaign?

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:23 AM

At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:30 AM

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Yes many, what is the relevance ? I respect all oceans racers, large and small.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:03 AM

It ain't doing too much ocean racing at the moment. Floats around an area that is tiny with tiny sails as a floating billboard promoting an Audi that looks like every other Audi.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:33 AM

[quote name='punter' timestamp='1314925408' post='3387060']
It ain't doing too much ocean racing at the moment. Floats around an area that is tiny with tiny sails as a floating billboard promoting an Audi that looks like every other Audi.


Too funny !!! what should the Audi look like, a mercedes :)




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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:07 AM

No it shouldn't look like a Merc, but Audi seems to have copied the J Boat formula and been using the printer to upsize/downsize each model in its range hence all looking the same.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:48 PM

Boats got an Audi diesel in it

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:35 PM

pics or it didn't happen

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:38 PM

pics or it didn't happen


You're SA's equivalent of Perez Hilton.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 10:37 PM

It will be hard to sneak out in the dead of night if the bills aren't paid !!!!

A good chance for someone who is owed money to arrest the ship.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:57 AM

pics or it didn't happen


Looks like this one
http://www.cmdmarine.com/Product2/2.5L/2.5L.html

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 07:11 AM

what held the mast down ?


PR spin.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:38 AM


pics or it didn't happen


You're SA's equivalent of Perez Hilton.


Better than being SA's equivalent of Paris Hilton though?

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:23 PM

No it shouldn't look like a Merc, but Audi seems to have copied the J Boat formula and been using the printer to upsize/downsize each model in its range hence all looking the same.



A little like Toyota is doing with there 4WD range...

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:35 PM

I heard that in a normal Hobart for Lude he goes to bed around Bondi and re-appears at the Iron Pot!

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 05:35 AM

At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....



Bogan state!

Ok we have lots of multihull sailors up here pil but still that is a bit harsh!

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 07:07 PM

what held the mast down ?


probably the orange water bag you see hanging from the mast on the pic.

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 07:32 AM

At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....


Is it still chained up? Assets seize finally caught up with him did it? I'm not up to date, last thing I ever heard was it was doing a runner to QLD to escape.?

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 10:18 AM


At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....


Is it still chained up? Assets seize finally caught up with him did it? I'm not up to date, last thing I ever heard was it was doing a runner to QLD to escape.?


I'm pretty sure these blokes are auctioning it in a few weeks time... http://www.marineauctions.com.au/

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 11:01 AM



At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....


Is it still chained up? Assets seize finally caught up with him did it? I'm not up to date, last thing I ever heard was it was doing a runner to QLD to escape.?


I'm pretty sure these blokes are auctioning it in a few weeks time... http://www.marineauctions.com.au/

Guess that means the all women's effort for this years Hobart is off the cards then?

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:51 PM

Yep, Suncorp is still owed some money. Maybe Wharro will buy it at the auction?

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Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:51 PM

Yep, Suncorp is still owed some money. Maybe Wharro will buy it at the auction?

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:50 PM

SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:52 AM

So,

Has F1 ..... or singapore authorities ... tried to shut down the Audi ambush advertising for this weekend, yet ?

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:30 AM

So,

Has F1 ..... or singapore authorities ... tried to shut down the Audi ambush advertising for this weekend, yet ?


I would say if Audi havnt written Bernie a cheque and the boat is visable they will be told

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:46 AM

.... they will be told

this is how single party authoritarian countries work

may the Arab Spring democratic uprisings reach all corners of the globe


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 12:22 PM

Bernie is an all powerful omnipotent being. Politics, religion and local laws etc are not even relevant. What Bernie wants, Bernie gets.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 06:13 PM

has bernie got that one, yet ?

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:56 AM

SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was


Are we missing something here??

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 02:29 AM


SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was


Are we missing something here??


Original post is gone. Deleted? Removed? Somebody should have quoted it...

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 04:45 AM



SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was


Are we missing something here??


Original post is gone. Deleted? Removed? Somebody should have quoted it...


Very interesting it was deleted. Wonder why?

Well anyway, the boat is being prepped i heard and heading to HK soon.

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:30 PM

criticising the authorities is only OK in true democracies

there would have been some downside to leaving the post up, ostracised or banned from the YC or racing would have been a good outcome


.... they will be told

this is how single party authoritarian countries work



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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:17 PM

nothing to do with the host country that is all Bernie and happened to someone I know at Silverstone with a truck ( not a current f1 sponsor or entrant) in the car park
had the choice cover it or move it out of the carpark

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:23 PM

Entered for China Coast regatta and Vietnam Race http://www.rhkyc.org...eek/entry11.htm.

Interesting that they plan to moor a 100ft maxi alongside a floating plastic pontoon (http://www.rhkyc.org...k/mooring11.htm) , when Frank's two 76fters and the two 52s are expected to anchor. Plus I didn't realise it was deep enough in there!

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:37 AM

which 100' maxi are you talking about Furnival ??????????????/

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:46 AM

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http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672

caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'


On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?


lifes tough at the front it seems

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:41 AM

.
http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672

caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'

On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?

lifes tough at the front it seems


From the link:

The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice


Not as far as I am aware...

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:46 AM


.
http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672

caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'

On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?

lifes tough at the front it seems


From the link:

The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice


Not as far as I am aware...


He won in 2000 and 2004 as Nicorette




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Posted 13 October 2011 - 02:44 PM



.
http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672

caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'

On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?

lifes tough at the front it seems


From the link:

The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice


Not as far as I am aware...


He won in 2000 and 2004 as Nicorette




Nope, he got line honors in those years, but the race was won by SAP Ausmaid and Aera, respectively.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:11 PM




.
http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672

caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'

On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?

lifes tough at the front it seems


From the link:

The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice


Not as far as I am aware...


He won in 2000 and 2004 as Nicorette




Nope, he got line honors in those years, but the race was won by SAP Ausmaid and Aera, respectively.


Wow your right Australians never focuses on line honors only handicap, and Wild Oats has not won 5 out of 6 races - only one..........

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:28 PM

[SNIP]
Wow your right Australians never focuses on line honors only handicap, and Wild Oats has not won 5 out of 6 races - only one..........


That is correct, WOIX has only won one Hobart - even though the pathetic domestic media coverage suggests otherwise...

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:44 PM

It's never been about buying a win, It's about sailing what you have well

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:08 PM

Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:27 PM

Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way


LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:09 PM

in race one Jelik scored (yes only finisher that scored) and won Elapsed

Audi was given an elapsed time but scored RET

HiFi and Freeffire scored DNF


http://www.rhkyc.org...CING DIVISION 0

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:56 AM


Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way


LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing


Bullshit! On the water margin in Race 1 (which indeed became a drifter at the end) was almost 16 minutes after 2 hours of racing. And that despite the fact that Audi Ultra did not sail the correct course (did not pass through start line on upwind leg) - which is why they retired.

In Race 2 Audi Ultra beat Jelik by less than 6 minutes after about 1 hour 40 minutes - not anywhere close to getting them on handicap and certainly not "smashing them" by any stretch of the imagination.

But some "smashing" definitely happened in Race 3 when Jelik beat Audi Ultra on the water by ~7.5 minutes after about 1 hour 15 minutes of racing. In fact, even the two 52s finished ahead of Audi Ultra in that race! And Jelik got Audi Ultra again in Race 6.

Fucking embarrassment :D

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:04 AM



Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way


LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing


Bullshit! On the water margin in Race 1 (which indeed became a drifter at the end) was almost 16 minutes after 2 hours of racing. And that despite the fact that Audi Ultra did not sail the correct course (did not pass through start line on upwind leg) - which is why they retired.

In Race 2 Audi Ultra beat Jelik by less than 6 minutes after about 1 hour 40 minutes - not anywhere close to getting them on handicap and certainly not "smashing them" by any stretch of the imagination.

But some "smashing" definitely happened in Race 3 when Jelik beat Audi Ultra on the water by ~7.5 minutes after about 1 hour 15 minutes of racing. In fact, even the two 52s finished ahead of Audi Ultra in that race! And Jelik got Audi Ultra again in Race 6.

Fucking embarrassment :D

Look buddy you know nothing about maxi racing on short courses - she won overall line honours from what we read, so continue to be a typical whinger who no doubt cant afford a fucking bath tub to sail - People like you are the ones we all laugh at, first to put down any boat and generally cant get a ride on any - seen
your style for over 20 years. Thats my 2 cents and no doubt your net worth ! Dont reply as there is nothing that you have to say that I think adds any cred to sailing large or small boats - no one likes to listen to know all pricks with no idea.





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Posted 17 October 2011 - 04:02 AM




Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way


LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing


Bullshit! On the water margin in Race 1 (which indeed became a drifter at the end) was almost 16 minutes after 2 hours of racing. And that despite the fact that Audi Ultra did not sail the correct course (did not pass through start line on upwind leg) - which is why they retired.

In Race 2 Audi Ultra beat Jelik by less than 6 minutes after about 1 hour 40 minutes - not anywhere close to getting them on handicap and certainly not "smashing them" by any stretch of the imagination.

But some "smashing" definitely happened in Race 3 when Jelik beat Audi Ultra on the water by ~7.5 minutes after about 1 hour 15 minutes of racing. In fact, even the two 52s finished ahead of Audi Ultra in that race! And Jelik got Audi Ultra again in Race 6.

Fucking embarrassment :D

Look buddy you know nothing about maxi racing on short courses - she won overall line honours from what we read, so continue to be a typical whinger who no doubt cant afford a fucking bath tub to sail - People like you are the ones we all laugh at, first to put down any boat and generally cant get a ride on any - seen
your style for over 20 years. Thats my 2 cents and no doubt your net worth ! Dont reply as there is nothing that you have to say that I think adds any cred to sailing large or small boats - no one likes to listen to know all pricks with no idea.





Ah, resorting to ad hominem attacks already? Only way to go if the facts are not in your favor, I guess: Not sure where you read that Audi Ultra won "overall line honours" - what does "overall line honours" even mean? Even using some contrived definition like adding up all elapsed times, Jelik still beat Audi Ultra on the water.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:10 AM

Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:04 AM

Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:22 AM


Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.


Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?


TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.

Anyway, dig more negative shit up

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:49 AM



Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.


Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?


TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.

Anyway, dig more negative shit up


Ok, in turn:
  • I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
    No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.
  • I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
    need to meet the latest technology available ?
    Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.
  • what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
    I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.
  • TImes for all races and results are published
    Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.
  • they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
    Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.
  • and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
    all seem to get on with the Audi team.
    Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.
  • Anyway, dig more negative shit up
    No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.


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Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:56 AM

I thought the sponsorship was to promote the new Audi A6 and the need for a large billboard amongst those who have a good probability of buying said car. Hence the amount of publicity pre-event to get eyes on the show.

Secondary aim is to help Singapore sailors and be a development program. Don't think it is the right boat for that by any stretch of the imagination. Time will tell if this program has legs or just a pipe-dream.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:10 AM

Agreed lets wait and see

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Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.


Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?


TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.

Anyway, dig more negative shit up


Ok, in turn:
  • I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
    No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.
  • I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
    need to meet the latest technology available ?
    Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.
  • what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
    I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.
  • TImes for all races and results are published
    Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.
  • they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
    Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.
  • and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
    all seem to get on with the Audi team.
    Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.
  • Anyway, dig more negative shit up
    No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.

You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
to verify what you state given you know them all so well especially the sponsorship team :) thats the funniest part of your rant champ ! so like I said put the call in or fucking shut up !

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:55 AM





Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.


Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?


TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.

Anyway, dig more negative shit up


Ok, in turn:
  • I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
    No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.
  • I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
    need to meet the latest technology available ?
    Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.
  • what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
    I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.
  • TImes for all races and results are published
    Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.
  • they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
    Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.
  • and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
    all seem to get on with the Audi team.
    Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.
  • Anyway, dig more negative shit up
    No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.

You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
to verify what you state given you know them all so well especially the sponsorship team :) thats the funniest part of your rant champ ! so like I said put the call in or fucking shut up !


No need to say anything else, since you still have not presented even a shred of evidence that would undermine anything we have said here.

Edit: For those who are FB friends with some of the regulars from the racing division, there are some very funny comments - example discussion "How to hide a maxi behind a couple of 50s"

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:34 PM





Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country


Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.

Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.

The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:
  • Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
  • Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.


Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?


TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.

Anyway, dig more negative shit up


Ok, in turn:
  • I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
    No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.
  • I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
    need to meet the latest technology available ?
    Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.
  • what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
    I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.
  • TImes for all races and results are published
    Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.
  • they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
    Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.
  • and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
    all seem to get on with the Audi team.
    Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.
  • Anyway, dig more negative shit up
    No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.

You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
to verify what you state given you know them all so well especially the sponsorship team :) thats the funniest part of your rant champ ! so like I said put the call in or fucking shut up !

Yawn... I got an idea; Why don't the two of you do us all a big favour and exchange phone numbers, call another and keep having a dig at each other in private. Cause this shit sure is getting high on the old BORING gauge. Yawn....

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:16 PM

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:44 PM

Hey Abbo,

Can I please use that it is gold.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:47 PM

Hey Abbo,

Can I please use that it is gold.


Sure, it's not mine but i use it all the time, especially around here! Words to live by.

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:53 PM

I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh,


bwahahahahahahaha !

thanks. great laugh

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:53 PM

Wow a simple comment has become quite a troll.. if you saw the racing Jelik was either ahead or stalking Audi all regatta, for a 'Super Maxi' Audi didnt exactly clear out with all the extra sail area she has. I must admit that Audi's entry to the race week has sparked more interest, there wasnt a huge entry list this year and the vietnam race only has a handful competing. There's alot of money in HK but per capita, not much seems to be making it onto the water, would be good to see a few more big boats out there, but they need the right races to support them. The island races here are popular but the W/Ls are just too short!

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:02 AM

I assume Audi was a bit light on for experience, over the line twice, jib down at 1 min to go then still managing to be over the line, (now that takes special skill), failing to give room to virtually the whole of IRC 2 at the bottom mark. conditions also didn't look like they suited it, glued to the water friday and saturday, so I guess takes a bit to wind up.

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:35 AM

I assume Audi was a bit light on for experience, over the line twice, jib down at 1 min to go then still managing to be over the line, (now that takes special skill), failing to give room to virtually the whole of IRC 2 at the bottom mark. conditions also didn't look like they suited it, glued to the water friday and saturday, so I guess takes a bit to wind up.


That is very poor form when your scorecard is DFL every race and you are on your first outing with a new crew. At least don't impede on others racing.

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 03:39 AM

In HK with the racing sails for the HK - Vietnam Race, I got this off there web site www.bigboatracing,com not a bad look at all


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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:38 AM

They're doing quite well.. on track for a new record and currently 2nd in IRC overall..

http://live.adventur...ng.com/HKVN2011

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:44 PM

any news??

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 06:26 AM

any news??


They are back in Singapore. Saw them out the other day faffing around. Plan to do Kings from what I understand. Seems that their constant flurry of media releases has gone quiet.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 09:57 PM

OK so she's no WOXI but this youtube clip is pretty cool



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Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:24 AM

my god ludde says in part three he has won sydney hobart, what a dead shit

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:01 AM

my god ludde says in part three he has won sydney hobart, what a dead shit



and has he not?




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