This isn't adding up ?
Luddes boat is(was) 90' and I don't think it won two world maxi champs
so which boat is it? note it weighs 20 tonnes which is well south of any of the current 100 footers
http://www.audi.com....torey-tall.html linky

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 07:49 AM

Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:03 AM
Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:09 AM
Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:30 AM
it holds several world records and has already won two Maxi World Championships.
Posted 19 August 2011 - 11:18 AM
Posted 19 August 2011 - 11:34 AM
Posted 20 August 2011 - 11:08 AM
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
Posted 20 August 2011 - 08:43 PM
Posted 20 August 2011 - 09:03 PM
Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:22 AM
So I'm wondering....what makes it such a shitbox?
Posted 21 August 2011 - 09:56 AM
Posted 21 August 2011 - 10:26 AM
Posted 21 August 2011 - 03:36 PM
a
marketingtool ?
or
a toolfor marketing?
Posted 21 August 2011 - 07:42 PM
a marketing tool ?
Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:29 PM
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:28 PM
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
He flicked you off the boat eh?
Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:12 PM
Mmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
He flicked you off the boat eh?
Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!
Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:37 PM
Just dont like whingers, work hard and enjoy the fun - worlds full of people like that dick head and none deserve to sail in any crew real sailors dont cry - enough saidMmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
He flicked you off the boat eh?
Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!
Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:07 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:10 AM

Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:17 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:30 AM
Another photo (not sure if they are working as they came from facebook)
Posted 29 August 2011 - 03:13 AM
Another photo (not sure if they are working as they came from facebook)
Too Good !
Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:33 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:40 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:21 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:08 AM
Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:14 AM
New job a bit slow mate?
How to get your boat under a bridge.
Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:44 AM
New job a bit slow mate?
How to get your boat under a bridge.
Posted 29 August 2011 - 09:21 AM
Just dont like whingers, work hard and enjoy the fun - worlds full of people like that dick head and none deserve to sail in any crew real sailors dont cry - enough said
Mmmm.. let me see, just joined and complaining about puppets? maybe not your first post then?
Yeah, it's definitely the Yuuzoo shitbox. Farkin thing is still falling to pieces. Now that Ludde has some money I wonder if he'll clear all his bills & pay his crew from last years Hobart. He's a 1st rate cock, no-one in Sydney will sail or work for him & no-one will touch any of the shit on that boat. Good riddance cocksucker & just remember, you were lucky not to kill people last year with your lies & disregard of safety & seamanship. I wish anyone who sails on that tub, all the luck in the world. You'll need it
He flicked you off the boat eh?
Yes, another person that could not make the cut , why do we need to even read posts from these puppets !!!
Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:23 AM
Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:30 AM
Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:03 AM
Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:33 AM
Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:07 AM
Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:48 PM
Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:35 PM
Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:38 PM
pics or it didn't happen
Posted 06 September 2011 - 10:37 PM
Posted 07 September 2011 - 09:57 AM
pics or it didn't happen
Posted 12 September 2011 - 07:11 AM
what held the mast down ?
Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:38 AM
pics or it didn't happen
You're SA's equivalent of Perez Hilton.
Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:23 PM
No it shouldn't look like a Merc, but Audi seems to have copied the J Boat formula and been using the printer to upsize/downsize each model in its range hence all looking the same.
Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:35 PM
Posted 16 September 2011 - 05:35 AM
At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....
Posted 17 September 2011 - 07:07 PM
what held the mast down ?
Posted 19 September 2011 - 07:32 AM
At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....
Posted 19 September 2011 - 10:18 AM
At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....
Is it still chained up? Assets seize finally caught up with him did it? I'm not up to date, last thing I ever heard was it was doing a runner to QLD to escape.?
Posted 19 September 2011 - 11:01 AM
Guess that means the all women's effort for this years Hobart is off the cards then?
At least they're in Singa's. Could be chained to the dock in the bogan state like the other 100' Supermaxi.
Oh dear.....not again.....
Is it still chained up? Assets seize finally caught up with him did it? I'm not up to date, last thing I ever heard was it was doing a runner to QLD to escape.?
I'm pretty sure these blokes are auctioning it in a few weeks time... http://www.marineauctions.com.au/
Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:51 PM
Posted 19 September 2011 - 01:51 PM
Posted 20 September 2011 - 01:50 PM
Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:52 AM
Posted 23 September 2011 - 09:30 AM
So,
Has F1 ..... or singapore authorities ... tried to shut down the Audi ambush advertising for this weekend, yet ?
Posted 23 September 2011 - 10:46 AM
this is how single party authoritarian countries work.... they will be told
Posted 23 September 2011 - 12:22 PM
Posted 23 September 2011 - 06:13 PM
Posted 26 September 2011 - 12:56 AM
SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was
Posted 26 September 2011 - 02:29 AM
SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was
Are we missing something here??
Posted 27 September 2011 - 04:45 AM
SAIL1209
When you see some of the people they flicked (polititians) versus who they gained (sailors), Singapore sailing is now miles ahead of where it was
Are we missing something here??
Original post is gone. Deleted? Removed? Somebody should have quoted it...
Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:30 PM
this is how single party authoritarian countries work
.... they will be told
Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:17 PM
Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:23 PM
Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:37 AM
Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:46 AM
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:41 AM
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http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672
caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'
On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?
lifes tough at the front it seems
The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:46 AM
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http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672
caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'
On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?
lifes tough at the front it seems
From the link:The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice
Not as far as I am aware...
Posted 13 October 2011 - 02:44 PM
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http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672
caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'
On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?
lifes tough at the front it seems
From the link:The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice
Not as far as I am aware...
He won in 2000 and 2004 as Nicorette
Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:11 PM
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http://www.boatingoz...asp?story=34672
caveat city ! seems on short courses there they are saying she might not get line honours due to the liklihood of 'mistakes'
On passages that suit her, they say that they aren't competitive in IRC unless the 'one chance' of an advantageous personal weather system that only affects them occurs ?
lifes tough at the front it seems
From the link:The NSW skipper [...] has won [...] the Rolex Sydney Hobart twice
Not as far as I am aware...
He won in 2000 and 2004 as Nicorette
Nope, he got line honors in those years, but the race was won by SAP Ausmaid and Aera, respectively.
Posted 13 October 2011 - 04:28 PM
[SNIP]
Wow your right Australians never focuses on line honors only handicap, and Wild Oats has not won 5 out of 6 races - only one..........
Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:44 PM
Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:08 PM
Posted 14 October 2011 - 12:27 PM
Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way
Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:09 PM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 02:56 AM
Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way
LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing
Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:04 AM
Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way
LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing
Bullshit! On the water margin in Race 1 (which indeed became a drifter at the end) was almost 16 minutes after 2 hours of racing. And that despite the fact that Audi Ultra did not sail the correct course (did not pass through start line on upwind leg) - which is why they retired.
In Race 2 Audi Ultra beat Jelik by less than 6 minutes after about 1 hour 40 minutes - not anywhere close to getting them on handicap and certainly not "smashing them" by any stretch of the imagination.
But some "smashing" definitely happened in Race 3 when Jelik beat Audi Ultra on the water by ~7.5 minutes after about 1 hour 15 minutes of racing. In fact, even the two 52s finished ahead of Audi Ultra in that race! And Jelik got Audi Ultra again in Race 6.
Fucking embarrassment
Look buddy you know nothing about maxi racing on short courses - she won overall line honours from what we read, so continue to be a typical whinger who no doubt cant afford a fucking bath tub to sail - People like you are the ones we all laugh at, first to put down any boat and generally cant get a ride on any - seen
your style for over 20 years. Thats my 2 cents and no doubt your net worth ! Dont reply as there is nothing that you have to say that I think adds any cred to sailing large or small boats - no one likes to listen to know all pricks with no idea.
Posted 17 October 2011 - 04:02 AM
Was beaten by Frank Pong's 76 footer today... by a long way
LOL yes we saw that, small margin in race 1 when there was zero breeze then Audi smashed them in race two so i guess you forgot that update ! fuck you guys are funny - its a fun race
mate so get onboard and enjoy the sailing
Bullshit! On the water margin in Race 1 (which indeed became a drifter at the end) was almost 16 minutes after 2 hours of racing. And that despite the fact that Audi Ultra did not sail the correct course (did not pass through start line on upwind leg) - which is why they retired.
In Race 2 Audi Ultra beat Jelik by less than 6 minutes after about 1 hour 40 minutes - not anywhere close to getting them on handicap and certainly not "smashing them" by any stretch of the imagination.
But some "smashing" definitely happened in Race 3 when Jelik beat Audi Ultra on the water by ~7.5 minutes after about 1 hour 15 minutes of racing. In fact, even the two 52s finished ahead of Audi Ultra in that race! And Jelik got Audi Ultra again in Race 6.
Fucking embarrassment
Look buddy you know nothing about maxi racing on short courses - she won overall line honours from what we read, so continue to be a typical whinger who no doubt cant afford a fucking bath tub to sail - People like you are the ones we all laugh at, first to put down any boat and generally cant get a ride on any - seen
your style for over 20 years. Thats my 2 cents and no doubt your net worth ! Dont reply as there is nothing that you have to say that I think adds any cred to sailing large or small boats - no one likes to listen to know all pricks with no idea.
Posted 17 October 2011 - 05:10 AM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:04 AM
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:22 AM
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.
Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.
The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.
- Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
- Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:49 AM
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.
Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.
The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.
- Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
- Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Anyway, dig more negative shit up
Posted 17 October 2011 - 06:56 AM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:10 AM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 08:12 AM
You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.
Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.
The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.
- Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
- Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Anyway, dig more negative shit up
Ok, in turn:
- I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.- I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ?
Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.- what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.- TImes for all races and results are published
Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.- they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.- and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.- Anyway, dig more negative shit up
No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.
Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:55 AM
You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.
Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.
The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.
- Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
- Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Anyway, dig more negative shit up
Ok, in turn:
- I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.- I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ?
Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.- what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.- TImes for all races and results are published
Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.- they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.- and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.- Anyway, dig more negative shit up
No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.
to verify what you state given you know them all so well especially the sponsorship teamthats the funniest part of your rant champ ! so like I said put the call in or fucking shut up !
Posted 17 October 2011 - 12:34 PM
Yawn... I got an idea; Why don't the two of you do us all a big favour and exchange phone numbers, call another and keep having a dig at each other in private. Cause this shit sure is getting high on the old BORING gauge. Yawn....You win, you are officially someone that has no idea - most of your comments at best are comical and clearly from someone clutching at straws - back them up, i am sure Pong and the club would be happy
Look, no one has time for people who are negative when sailing is something most enjoy and we all enjoy watching the large and small boats compete - One fact I will let you in on as all who sailed in HK know, Audi (Ludde) also put up money to help the Regatta with
Audi as the sponsor to assist the classes with the prize givings - They were there for fun, not money and I heard all enjoyed the Regatta - As for line honours simply add up who crossed the line first in all races (surely you know how to do that) It was Audi and a close
Frank Pong and team who all loved the close match racing with Audi on the short course - did you speak with anyone actually racing ? Like I said enough said go find something else to bash up and dont make yourself also look like a loser. I think all owners who pay to put there
boats in Regattas, provide crew and youth a chance to sail in any race with great financial risk to themselves deserve a pat on the back, no matter the boat size - and people who can only fault them to be totally not important to the future of sailing in any country
Nice rant, mate. However, Ludde did not put much, if any, money up for the event - Audi certainly did and, like with all other sponsors, their support is very welcome and much appreciated. Same goes for anybody bringing their boat here and participating in the racing - the more the merrier. And lots of people certainly enjoyed seeing Audi Ultra on the race course as well as up close (some of us both in Singapore and Hong Kong) - it is not the type of boat most local sailors get to see much/at all, even if it is outdated technology and not competitive in its class an more. Sort of like getting to poke around a Formula One car from a few season ago.
Nobody is critical of any of the above or being "negative", as you claim. However, what people have been predicting from the very start here, namely that the campaign would turn out to be a publicity effort (albeit a pretty good one) rather than a competitive sailing program, has been borne out at CCR - the sailing performance of the Audi Ultra program was a joke. No matter what lies, inaccuracies, and inaccurate statement the PR guys and other people associated with the campaign continue to spew (cf. the website), results are going the be pathetic without proper funding, management, crew work, etc.
The facts speak for themselves, no matter what contrived scoring algorithms (overall line honours!?) you come up with. But I will indulge you, as well as provide some info for the people on this forum:In addition, when Audi beat Jelik on the water it was close, but in the races where Jelik beat Audi the wining margin was considerable.
- Audi Ultra finished first on the water in four races, second in two races, and fourth in one race (embarrassingly beaten not only by Jelik but also by two boats less than half her size).
- Jelik finished first on the water in three races and second in the other four races.
Its no rant, and I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea, I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ? what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
TImes for all races and results are published, they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Anyway, dig more negative shit up
Ok, in turn:
- I suggest you ring up RHKYC and ask them about why Audi committed to the event - You simply have it wrong and no idea,
No need to call the club - I spend plenty of time there and am quite familiar with the sailing office and the sponsorship people.- I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh, what are we comparing to now WOXI and is everyone who enters any size yacht now
need to meet the latest technology available ?
Fact is that Audi Ultra is not competitive in pretty much any competition. Only thing she can do is take line honors against considerably smaller boats - and she even failed to do that consistently at CCR.- what are you saying there that now only people with deep pockets can be taken serious ?
I never made such claim. However, I will state that anybody who knowingly claims accomplishment that they have not actually attained and who proclaims grandiose ambitions without any plans or the required resources to achieve them should probably not be taken that seriously.- TImes for all races and results are published
Indeed they are - and as predicted by most in this thread, the ones for Audi Ultra are pathetic.- they seem to have great sponsors so management must be doing something ok
Sure, that is what people have been saying here for weeks: Great publicity campaign, joke of a sailing program.- and the team from what I have seen is a collection of good Aussie, Singapore and European sailors - the course was tiny for any maxi, Frank Pong and team
all seem to get on with the Audi team.
Any endorsement from Frank Pong is dubious at best. And Team Jelik (hardly a bunch of rock stars) had a good laugh at (not with) the Audi guys.- Anyway, dig more negative shit up
No need - I (and others) have expressed our views on this a long time ago. Nothing that has transpired since (specifically, CCR) or that you have written undermines what we have stated.
to verify what you state given you know them all so well especially the sponsorship teamthats the funniest part of your rant champ ! so like I said put the call in or fucking shut up !
Posted 17 October 2011 - 03:16 PM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 09:44 PM
Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:47 PM
Hey Abbo,
Can I please use that it is gold.
Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:53 PM
I think also your call re outdated technology is quite harsh,
Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:53 PM
Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:02 AM
Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:35 AM
I assume Audi was a bit light on for experience, over the line twice, jib down at 1 min to go then still managing to be over the line, (now that takes special skill), failing to give room to virtually the whole of IRC 2 at the bottom mark. conditions also didn't look like they suited it, glued to the water friday and saturday, so I guess takes a bit to wind up.
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 06:26 AM
any news??
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:01 AM
my god ludde says in part three he has won sydney hobart, what a dead shit
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