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[Harnesscreek]

25 - 30 knots today from the North East Joy oh Joy...
Wonder if he will make a pit stop at BDA and drop off anyone else on the crew that may become disenchanted. They should drift very close!

[couchsurfer]

25 - 30 knots today from the North East Joy oh Joy...
Wonder if he will make a pit stop at BDA and drop off anyone else on the crew that may become disenchanted. They should drift very close!

...yeh,they may not have realized that he was planning to be 'in the bunk' the whole trip,,and Weid prolly hadn't realized how he'd have t'be shouting orders at non-responsive pukers

[pipsqueak]

25 - 30 knots today from the North East Joy oh Joy...
Wonder if he will make a pit stop at BDA and drop off anyone else on the crew that may become disenchanted. They should drift very close!

thanks for the weather HC. if they put up a sail and can make use of that wind, they'll be in bare chested weather in 48-60 hours/4 knots.
which guy dropped out? i can't tell the scruffies apart.

was it the one leaking the iffy body language? or the guy in the back?
rachel has gone all out buying the tshirts and caps..very nice of her to promote unity. too bad it backfires and seperates god and godess from crew..
when you race guys wear matching shirts and caps..don't you all wear them? the captain/owner too?

[big chicken]

which guy dropped out? i can't tell the scruffies apart.

You're right. It looks like they are all sharing DNA. It's going to be tough sorting out who the fathers are when the babies start popping out.

[seacat]

"We spent our first day dropping like flies, one by one to the ails of seasickness until only Reid and Alex were left standing. Wednesday night winds rose and the crew rallied to get sails down, leaving up just the foresail to maintain some comfort through the gale. Then at about one AM during Dusty's watch we heard "Um Reid, there's a tear in the Foresail!"

Josh Grimm must have bailed, since Andy Cronin has a blog running and he's the tall one in the back..

[couchsurfer]

..hopefully we don't lose this one

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[redboat]

The Rudderless Schooner Monday, 12 December 2011 36.47 N, 68.27 W Course SE
Dec. 12, 2011 Day 7

The Rudderless Schooner

Usually when we set off to sea on the schooner Anne we have quite a few adjustments to make before settling into the life aquatic. Sailing into the cold North Atlantic can be quite a test. After surviving our first storm with a green seasick crew getting dripped on from above and taking turns pumping the bilge through the night, there were very few who turned out for their breakfast oats. Having shredded our foresail the night before, we didn’t have any sail up to steady us. We decided to set our staysail and run off down wind in the storm. Alex, Dusty, and I heaved up the staysail and the schooner took off downwind. I turned the ship’s wheel to set a course but the schooner didn’t respond. I saw that in our current direction, the wind would get behind the staysail and flip her to the other side in a dangerous accidental jibe. I shouted “We are going to jibe!” and ran below to check the steering system. I opened the cabinet under the galley sink to check the steering quadrant.

The top of the rudder had broken off and the quadrant was lying on its side!! We were now without steerage! I stuck my finger in the rudder stuffing box to see if the rudder was still there. The top of the rudder shaft was moving in its bearing. I went outside and announced that we had lost steerage. We tried to steer off the wind with just the staysail but didn’t have much success. With all the other things that were happening to us, I was a bit daunted. How could we steer anywhere? At least we had enough food and water for a few months. The crew was still ready to ride out the adventure they began. We are not ready to call for help yet!

[couchsurfer]

The Rudderless Schooner Monday, 12 December 2011 36.47 N, 68.27 W Course SE
Dec. 12, 2011 Day 7

The Rudderless Schooner

Usually when we set off to sea on the schooner Anne we have quite a few adjustments to make before settling into the life aquatic. Sailing into the cold North Atlantic can be quite a test. After surviving our first storm with a green seasick crew getting dripped on from above and taking turns pumping the bilge through the night, there were very few who turned out for their breakfast oats. Having shredded our foresail the night before, we didn’t have any sail up to steady us. We decided to set our staysail and run off down wind in the storm. Alex, Dusty, and I heaved up the staysail and the schooner took off downwind. I turned the ship’s wheel to set a course but the schooner didn’t respond. I saw that in our current direction, the wind would get behind the staysail and flip her to the other side in a dangerous accidental jibe. I shouted “We are going to jibe!” and ran below to check the steering system. I opened the cabinet under the galley sink to check the steering quadrant.

The top of the rudder had broken off and the quadrant was lying on its side!! We were now without steerage! I stuck my finger in the rudder stuffing box to see if the rudder was still there. The top of the rudder shaft was moving in its bearing. I went outside and announced that we had lost steerage. We tried to steer off the wind with just the staysail but didn’t have much success. With all the other things that were happening to us, I was a bit daunted. How could we steer anywhere? At least we had enough food and water for a few months. The crew was still ready to ride out the adventure they began. We are not ready to call for help yet!

....is that a picture of what Weid uses for the stuffing-box???

...shredded sails?.....check!
...no steerage?........check!

...at least those nimwits are getting the life experience they so dearly longed for
''never trust a guy in a sailboat that makes VOID-HO videos'',
,,,and say's 'free-sprouts'


......................I hope they survive the lesson

[billy backstay]

I reckon the steering system had not been inspected in years??? YCMTSU!!

[couchsurfer]

I reckon the steering system had not been inspected in years??? YCMTSU!!

...so what'll 'give' next???
...the hull or 'just' spars??????

...when's the next storm rolling through????????

...I can imagine what it'll look like if the have t'go for the liferaft
.........''my ex-wife said it was -all-good-''

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/whale-wars-the-empty-life-raft.html

[pipsqueak]

[kent_island_sailor]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?
As much as I make fun of them, I *do* really hope no one gets hurt on that miserable cheese scow. Maybe the 1,000 Days of Cheese used up 99.9% of whatever the old girl has left in her

[couchsurfer]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?
As much as I make fun of them, I *do* really hope no one gets hurt on that miserable cheese scow. Maybe the 1,000 Days of Cheese used up 99.9% of whatever the old girl has left in her

http://1000days.net/home/

...it's only dumbluck that held it together last time.,ready to FAIL this time.

.....calling Darwin,,we have some candidates at 36.47 N, 68.27,,,sad t'say




.feel pretty sad for the kid,he didn't really get to choose,,,
...hope they survive t'kill Weid

[redviking]

I'll bet he doesn't have a drogue and a bunch or warps to use for steerage. C130 range possible, looks like an AMVER to me. No electric bilge pumps? WTF? Crew pumping all night? How did this guy sail by himself in this POS? Best bet, he'll head to Norfolk and grifter a repair... Fucking idiot, taking that piece of shit out there. What's he gonna do for sails in Guyana? Weave them out of hemp? Reid is the John Edwards of sailing, a complete narcissistic Soanya fucker... This takes the cake, wonder if Pip is already making phone calls, If I was on that side, I'd head out there to rescue Rachel and Carly.

[redviking]

Well, the North Atlantic is a real treat, a total bitch. It’s a constant fight. We’ve given her a lot, nothing but harsh conditions in return.

Due to the fact that we’re conserving our battery power and working hard to fix the Anne from the last gale as well as prepare ourselves for the next one, apparently tonight, I’m going to keep it brief and get to the highlights.

After a slow departure out of New York Harbor, we were quickly in jittery seas and overcast which haven’t as much ceased except for one peaceful sunny morning.

On the evening of Wednesday December 7th, a storm started to brew up from the south forcing us to lower our sails one by one with the exeption of the foresail. By early Thursday morning, the storm was at full gale force (40+ knots ~ 46+ mph). In addition, waves on the magnatude of 10-15′ height rocked us pretty good. It turned out to be quite an epic storm.

By the end, I had vomitted 7 times and declared myself bed ridden.

The toll on the Anne was bad too. We lost our headstay which holds the jib (fore most sail) in place. Next the foresail took a huge tare which took 6 of us to bring it down at about 1am fighting against the storm. Then, we lost our rudder which meant that we vurtally had no way to steer the boat for over 24hrs. And, a bunch of other things brokedown–just picture shit flying about like crazy, doors slamming..etc.

That’s all about fixed by now though. I had to dive in the open ocean and go under the boat to fix our rudder problem. That was fun and extremely cold. Saw some jelly fish. And everyone is alive and well.

Now we’re headed to the sweet, sweet Caribben (crossing the Gulf Stream today). Warm weather abound! Calm seas? We’ll see. Fingers crossed…stomach not.



Lat: 36deg 56.990 N
Long: 68deg 34.112 W
Speed: ~5knots
Course: ~170deg

Back to the sea,
Andy

[kent_island_sailor]

As The Cheese Turns.................

[pipsqueak]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?
As much as I make fun of them, I *do* really hope no one gets hurt on that miserable cheese scow. Maybe the 1,000 Days of Cheese used up 99.9% of whatever the old girl has left in her

well KIS, we don't really know what's for real and what isn't do we?

did you know that Rachel's brother is a producer for 'The Deadliest Catch" tv show?

maybe all this drammma is Reid's new reality show pitch.

i could care less what that lyin a hole does with his own life, but to take others with him, especially a child and use him as a prop to garner public sympathy and megahitz is despicable. this guy has no boundaries alright.
no calls necessary, red. this thing could make HLN by tonight once it hits twitter. especially if that is the whole point?
besides which, six different stealth gov't agencies check this thread for updates everyday already..

[Innocent Bystander]

I'll bet he doesn't have a drogue and a bunch or warps to use for steerage. C130 range possible, looks like an AMVER to me. No electric bilge pumps? WTF? Crew pumping all night? How did this guy sail by himself in this POS? Best bet, he'll head to Norfolk and grifter a repair... Fucking idiot, taking that piece of shit out there. What's he gonna do for sails in Guyana? Weave them out of hemp? Reid is the John Edwards of sailing, a complete narcissistic Soanya fucker... This takes the cake, wonder if Pip is already making phone calls, If I was on that side, I'd head out there to rescue Rachel and Carly.

Closer to Bermuda. We don't need him fouling the Chesapeake.

[redviking]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?
As much as I make fun of them, I *do* really hope no one gets hurt on that miserable cheese scow. Maybe the 1,000 Days of Cheese used up 99.9% of whatever the old girl has left in her

no calls necessary, red. this thing could make HLN by tonight once it hits twitter. especially if that is the whole point?
besides which, six different stealth gov't agencies check this thread for updates everyday already..

Hi Pip, I mean really? Shouldn't someone at least let the Coasties know that this idiot with 8 Americans aboard is bobbing out there? He has an American flag somewhere and I'll bet he doesn't call his hailing port country for help when the whole shitbox goes down, we or someone are going to have to get him anyway, why not now? Save time, drop a dime. Besides, it will make for a great press conference with the blind guy from the Flicka...

[Tom Ray]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?

I thought it might be a parody post as well. All too real.

[pipsqueak]

If I was on that side, I'd head out there to rescue Rachel and Carly.

slut.

manifestly unsafe? i'm sure bhudda and jesus would disagree with you!

we know the anne is crumbling like dried up old cheese but hey..the capt has cried wolf before with his ceiling rice and beans. he's been busted cold on many particulars (as you know if you haven't killed off all your brain cells boozing it up in the marina).

wasn't that kid just tinkering around underwater a few days ago when he 'scrubbed the underwater window?'

is he in shock? who dives into the winter time north atlantic and says, "Saw some jelly fish."
ding ding ding..aint ringing true..
and these blogs are sure written like hemmingway?
alls good now, we're told..just a little blip for the eternals. quit drooling and get back to that plumbing job.

[Regatta Dog]

I wonder how Charie Doane will report this reckless cluster-fuck aboard a dilapidated piece of shit crewed by a handful of newbies and a 4 YO kid.

The crew probably thinks that losing a head-stay, shredding a sail, being rained on in the cabin, taking shifts at the manual bilge pump throughout the night, and diving for a rudder repair is quite normal after going through 45 knots of breeze and 15 ' waves on a 70 foot schooner.

And to think, Mr. Doane referred to the people posting here as "the peanut gallery from SA".

[redviking]

I'll bet he doesn't have a drogue and a bunch or warps to use for steerage. C130 range possible, looks like an AMVER to me. No electric bilge pumps? WTF? Crew pumping all night? How did this guy sail by himself in this POS? Best bet, he'll head to Norfolk and grifter a repair... Fucking idiot, taking that piece of shit out there. What's he gonna do for sails in Guyana? Weave them out of hemp? Reid is the John Edwards of sailing, a complete narcissistic Soanya fucker... This takes the cake, wonder if Pip is already making phone calls, If I was on that side, I'd head out there to rescue Rachel and Carly.

Closer to Bermuda. We don't need him fouling the Chesapeake.

Check your navigation skills there skipper http://www.findmespo...5649N/70.65897W and uh, Pip, There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with hot young chicks in my boat.

[redviking]

Where's Wofsey? I mean, your buddy is more bat shit crazy than your w_fe, where are you? I mean, come join the party, tell us kewl stories about desal units and Reid tied up to Frying Pan Shoals or whatever that dock was called. Yes Pip, some dockside drinking has impaired my memory of the details - but I am also looking for Rand Weeks. Surely some supporter of Reid will step forward now that the epic grifting sailornaut has gone to sea ill prepared. Where is mission control? Do i have to call that Blumenfeld guy?

[Albatros]

even more appropriate than the last time ...

[Harnesscreek]

20-30 knots out of the NNE- NNW until tomorrow eve. Must be comfortable

[billy backstay]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?

I thought it might be a parody post as well. All too real.

"The top of the rudder had broken off and the quadrant was lying on its side!! "

Isn't there some law preventing jerks like this from endangering the lives of clueless, naive, newbie, adventurer wannabes??

[Innocent Bystander]

I'll bet he doesn't have a drogue and a bunch or warps to use for steerage. C130 range possible, looks like an AMVER to me. No electric bilge pumps? WTF? Crew pumping all night? How did this guy sail by himself in this POS? Best bet, he'll head to Norfolk and grifter a repair... Fucking idiot, taking that piece of shit out there. What's he gonna do for sails in Guyana? Weave them out of hemp? Reid is the John Edwards of sailing, a complete narcissistic Soanya fucker... This takes the cake, wonder if Pip is already making phone calls, If I was on that side, I'd head out there to rescue Rachel and Carly.

Closer to Bermuda. We don't need him fouling the Chesapeake.

Check your navigation skills there skipper http://www.findmespo...5649N/70.65897W and uh, Pip, There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about with hot young chicks in my boat.

I used the posit in Andy's note about everything breaking. Hard to imagine even Reid would head back NW. IIRC, the Spot posit is a couple of days old.

In any case, take them off and scuttle it. Norfolk already suffered this year from the "Hunter on the beach" during Irene.

[pipsqueak]

20-30 knots out of the NNE- NNW until tomorrow eve. Must be comfortable

against the gulf stream.

[billy backstay]

20-30 knots out of the NNE- NNW until tomorrow eve. Must be comfortable

against the gulf stream.

BIG square waves then; not FUN!!

[kent_island_sailor]

Isn't one of the SCOPS (Standard Cheese Operating Procedures) to get the audience worried enough to consider sending help and then "overcoming" the horrendous problem with some heroic dope smoking or whatever

Not that being out of swimming distance from shore ISN'T a dangerous situation on that thing!

[Regatta Dog]

A crew member receives his "breakfast oats" after the storm --

[pipsqueak]

innocent bystander, there is an updated position since that one. the last position given is from andy:
Lat: 36deg 56.990 N
Long: 68deg 34.112 W
Speed: ~5knots
Course: ~170deg

[Innocent Bystander]

innocent bystander, there is an updated position since that one. the last position given is from andy:
Lat: 36deg 56.990 N
Long: 68deg 34.112 W
Speed: ~5knots
Course: ~170deg

That's the posit I used. 334NM to Bermuda. 365 to Norfolk.

[pipsqueak]

A crew member receives his "breakfast oats" after the storm --

sry IB, i thought you used the old spot.

[Beer Can]

"Well this is called lying a hole," Reid commented

CLASSIC YCMTSU

I think he meant lying ahull, but nah, lying A-hole fits Reid better, AND PROBABLY better fits the crew sentiment. .

"All is well on the Schooner Anne says Spot........"

Its like reading a kindergarten primer..... How can it all be well with everyone seasick, suprise leaks, blown out sails, and equipment breaking..... and its only day 2 of what is planned to be a 182 day ( 6 month) voyage ?. .

This is funny.

[seacat]

Hello Bermuda...seems they got a fair wind with some things working..

"That's all about fixed by now though. I had to dive in the open ocean and go under the boat to fix our rudder problem. That was fun and extremely cold. Saw some jelly fish. And everyone is alive and well. Now we're headed to the sweet, sweet Caribben (crossing the Gulf Stream today). Warm weather abound! Calm seas? We'll see. Fingers crossed…stomach not."




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[couchsurfer]

Hello Bermuda...seems they got a fair wind with some things working..

"That's all about fixed by now though. I had to dive in the open ocean and go under the boat to fix our rudder problem. That was fun and extremely cold. Saw some jelly fish. And everyone is alive and well. Now we're headed to the sweet, sweet Caribben (crossing the Gulf Stream today). Warm weather abound! Calm seas? We'll see. Fingers crossed…stomach not."




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...hmm,they seem t'move faster each time they break something

[Innocent Bystander]

Much as I want to not give them credit, their position would indicate that they are about clear of the stream and headed south. Somewhere they need to get more easting in before they get to the trades.

[couchsurfer]

Much as I want to not give them credit, their position would indicate that they are about clear of the stream and headed south. Somewhere they need to get more easting in before they get to the trades.

...route's probably pretty to predict--which way th'wind blows?!

[barleymalt]

Is this a joke or are they really rudderless?
As much as I make fun of them, I *do* really hope no one gets hurt on that miserable cheese scow. Maybe the 1,000 Days of Cheese used up 99.9% of whatever the old girl has left in her

well KIS, we don't really know what's for real and what isn't do we?

did you know that Rachel's brother is a producer for 'The Deadliest Catch" tv show?

maybe all this drammma is Reid's new reality show pitch.

i could care less what that lyin a hole does with his own life, but to take others with him, especially a child and use him as a prop to garner public sympathy and megahitz is despicable. this guy has no boundaries alright.
no calls necessary, red. this thing could make HLN by tonight once it hits twitter. especially if that is the whole point?
besides which, six different stealth gov't agencies check this thread for updates everyday already..

The Deadliest Drift. A mix of Deadliest Catch, Survivor, and the Love Boat.

[Harpoon]

Blame the Coast Guard?

[billy backstay]

Where are you reading Andys stuff? It's not on the 1000 days site???

[couchsurfer]

The broken rudder quadrant just shows the total lack of maintenance and preparation in this farce. Its no excuse to say it wasn't used for the past 3 years.

....everything looked 'fine' before they left!

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[Aloha 27]

"Well this is called lying a hole," Reid commented

I thought WEid was a lying A-Hole all along.
Just sayin'.

[seacat]

Where are you reading Andys stuff? It's not on the 1000 days site???

http://acroninsails.wordpress.com/

[svgreatwhite]

Where are you reading Andys stuff? It's not on the 1000 days site???

http://acroninsails.wordpress.com/

So he says he fixed the rudder. How?

[america's cup]

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Reid's backup ship waiting in port (in his dreams).

N.B. for the really curious, that was the schooner Thomas A. Lawson, the first seven-masted sailing vessel. This was taken fromThe Project Gutenberg eBook, Commercial Geography, by Jacques W. Redway . ...makes the Cheese Scow look like a tugboat!

[couchsurfer]

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...actually I'm quite concerned about the lives on board,,, aside from Weid's

[svgreatwhite]

Where are you reading Andys stuff? It's not on the 1000 days site???

http://acroninsails.wordpress.com/

So he says he fixed the rudder. How?

looking at the build pictures, the rudder has a removeable bottom gudgeon, attached to the keel. As long as its there, the rudder doesnt drop clean out of the boat. The quadrant would have been attached to the rudder shaft with a grub screw. Someone probably centred the quadrant to allow for the new bowsprit and headsail, and didnt do the grubscrew up tight enough. When the grubscrew slipped off the shaft, the quadrant fell off, and the rudder shaft dropped until it came up hard against the bottom gudgeon, and the top of the shaft disappeared into the ruddershaft hole. They would have solved it by throwing a rope under the rudder, and lifting it up, so that the shaft could be reattached to the quadrant. They had to dive down and position the rope under the rudder.
Not difficult at all, easily repairable at sea (providing you dont strip the thread on the grubscrew), but makes for a dramatic story.

That is what I thought would probably happen. But I guess it was no big deal to dive and place the rope around without explaining a bit more! Probably nobody wants the word to get out about how stupid it was to start with. Reid actually said that the quadrant and stock broke off! Sheesh!

[Life Buoy 15]

It is going to be difficult to bash into ships if you can't steer.
Hope he gets it fixed soon.

[america's cup]

So, does anyone know how many posts it takes to reach "Anarchist" status? I hope it's not more than 1,000 or my "White Tiger" avatar may start to get restless. It's already purring menacingly, and I just had to throw it a mahi-mahi to calm it down.

Talking about gudgeons and rudders, 'Timmys_Trick_Turkey', is this what you are talking about? -- Full Keel Rudder .

[Life Buoy 15]

So, does anyone know how many posts it takes to reach "Anarchist" status?

It has nothing to do with number of posts. Have you posted any tits yets?

[america's cup]

So, does anyone know how many posts it takes to reach "Anarchist" status?

It has nothing to do with number of posts. Have you posted any tits yets?

Oh yes, more than three different times, for sure (several times in the "Couple Cruise" thread, as part of the initiation). I just posted a real knockout pair today, on Page 28 of this thread. Look for my avatar, right after 'Timmys_Trick_Turkey's comment "Weido fires up the motor..."

So that's all it takes? Or is there more you're not telling me?

[Regatta Dog]

It is going to be difficult to bash into ships if you can't steer.
Hope he gets it fixed soon.

Classic.

AC -- Tits are cool, but I don't think Dawg's keen on the beaver pics unless they're the rodents themselves, as in the video below. You might consider deleting that one before he moves your piece back to the first square of the Anarchist game and you miss two turns....or roll doubles. Just sayin'.

[america's cup]

So, does anyone know how many posts it takes to reach "Anarchist" status?

It has nothing to do with number of posts. Have you posted any tits yets?

I also contributed this very detailed description of Reid and Soanya's collision with the "Dunedin" transport ship --

"pipsqueak, I just whipped up a chart for you" (Post #29969-america's cup)

[america's cup]

It is going to be difficult to bash into ships if you can't steer.
Hope he gets it fixed soon.

Classic.

AC -- Tits are cool, but I don't think Dawg's keen on the beaver pics unless they're the rodents themselves, as in the video below. You might consider deleting that one before he moves your piece back to the first square of the Anarchist game and you miss two turns....or roll doubles. Just sayin'.

RD, R.I.P. Leslie Nielsen. As for the beaver, I will repost the tits as a cropped version, which should satisfy Dawg's distaste for beavers, on this forum. I can see your point. I would have to start on Square One. That would be a bummer, all right!

[america's cup]

One version has it that it took 5 to get the headsail down. Andys version has all 6 pulling the headsail down.
Bet they were glad to see Buddha turn up to lend a hand ..

Actually, maybe it was this one who lent a hand with the headsail. ...or should that be foresail? It looks like she's ready to climb up the mast!

[america's cup]

RD, only you and I now know what lies beneath that previous photo. So much the better! I deleted the offending photo, as suggested. I picked "delete", not "remove from view." The latter choice would have still been visible to Dawg and I would have been in heaps of trouble -- as you say I would have "rolled doubles". Double Trouble!

[america's cup]

So, does anyone know how many posts it takes to reach "Anarchist" status? I hope it's not more than 1,000 or my "White Tiger" avatar may start to get restless. It's already purring menacingly, and I just had to throw it a mahi-mahi to calm it down.

Talking about gudgeons and rudders, 'Timmys_Trick_Turkey', is this what you are talking about? -- Full Keel Rudder .

Yep, almost identical, except that reids prop is set more into the keel. so the rudder can be dropped out without taking the propellor off. The fact that the shaft drops at all, with the bottom gudgeon still attached, is testament to the wide tolerances (poor workmanship) in the hull. Those types of rudders, as your article says, are very unbalanced, meaning the torque on the quadrant is huge, especially if taken by a following sea. The relentless pull on the helm with those rudders usually mean that unless you have a very balanced sail plan to reduce it, the weather helm is significant, and you sail in heavy weather with the helm lashed. (a short length of rope which slides quickly off).

Your article has the prop cut into the rudder, so that under heavy motoring, the helm lightens up. Reids doesnt. The advantage of the full keel with protected rudder is that if you take ground, or sail into a discarded fishing net, you are less likely to bend your ruddershaft or damage your rudder.

'Timmys_Trick_Turkey', very good answer! Now tell me -- would the tiller have been lashed to Leeward or Windward, in heavy weather? (I assume the answer is leeward, if the boat was suffering from Lee Helm during the storm.) If the Anne does not use a tiller then the rudder would be pointed in the opposite direction, naturally. At some point, the boat probably rounded up, as you pointed out earlier (Previous post), and the sails started flapping and were subjected to abnormal forces. I agree with this scenario.  

[Regatta Dog]

One version has it that it took 5 to get the headsail down. Andys version has all 6 pulling the headsail down.
Bet they were glad to see Buddha turn up to lend a hand ..

Actually, maybe it was this one who lent a hand with the headsail. ...or should that be foresail? It looks like she's ready to climb up the mast!

Nice job AC. She's a very attractive young lady, and I'm glad you saved her from being flicked.

This is a safer way to post tits and beaver ---

[Regatta Dog]

I image Googled "Stowe" and "Beaver" and the first and seventh images were these --

[Harpoon]

truly too bad reid hasn't been the kind of guy to elicit the help of more sailors, instead of pissing them off royally. if a fraction of the time spent here on SA blasting the bugger, had instead been spent by a knowledgeable group of sailors to lend a hand to refitting what is so fondly referred to here as the cheese scow, i imagine that the group of passengers/crew/sailors for whom you all express such concern and sympathy for now, would be in much better stead. They'd be aboard a vessel more likely to sail into port in Guyana for inexpensive labor costs, than limp in at best at some time in the future.

the guy may be as off putting to some as newt gingrich to the PA, al gore to rush, michael savage to the queen of england, or obama to the repub right, still he continues to try to live his dream by hook or by crook, and is yet sailing a 70' schooner under his command for more thousands of sea miles offshore successfully, than i daresay any of you couchsitting posters 'ave e'er done.

ok, i'll batten down the hatches now, let the broadsides begin.

[kent_island_sailor]

How about you come over and help me fix MY boat?
Why would I divert resources from the safety and comfort of my own passengers to help that douche?
WTF????

My engine died this spring. Instead of going out anyway and complaining that no one would help me, I got some money together and bought another one. I did this with a "job". Weed could try that as well

EDUIT: His dream is to get other people to pay for his sailing. Dreams of Grifting ............

truly too bad reid hasn't been the kind of guy to elicit the help of more sailors, instead of pissing them off royally. if a fraction of the time spent here on SA blasting the bugger, had instead been spent by a knowledgeable group of sailors to lend a hand to refitting what is so fondly referred to here as the cheese scow, i imagine that the group of passengers/crew/sailors for whom you all express such concern and sympathy for now, would be in much better stead. They'd be aboard a vessel more likely to sail into port in Guyana for inexpensive labor costs, than limp in at best at some time in the future.

the guy may be as off putting to some as newt gingrich to the PA, al gore to rush, michael savage to the queen of england, or obama to the repub right, still he continues to try to live his dream by hook or by crook, and is yet sailing a 70' schooner under his command for more thousands of sea miles offshore successfully, than i daresay any of you couchsitting posters 'ave e'er done.

ok, i'll batten down the hatches now, let the broadsides begin.

[redviking]

Rand? Rand Weeks, is that you?

truly too bad reid hasn't been the kind of guy to elicit the help of more sailors, instead of pissing them off royally. if a fraction of the time spent here on SA blasting the bugger, had instead been spent by a knowledgeable group of sailors to lend a hand to refitting what is so fondly referred to here as the cheese scow, i imagine that the group of passengers/crew/sailors for whom you all express such concern and sympathy for now, would be in much better stead. They'd be aboard a vessel more likely to sail into port in Guyana for inexpensive labor costs, than limp in at best at some time in the future.

the guy may be as off putting to some as newt gingrich to the PA, al gore to rush, michael savage to the queen of england, or obama to the repub right, still he continues to try to live his dream by hook or by crook, and is yet sailing a 70' schooner under his command for more thousands of sea miles offshore successfully, than i daresay any of you couchsitting posters 'ave e'er done.

ok, i'll batten down the hatches now, let the broadsides begin.

[Beer Can]

How about you come over and help me fix MY boat?
Why would I divert resources from the safety and comfort of my own passengers to help that douche?
WTF????

My engine died this spring. Instead of going out anyway and complaining that no one would help me, I got some money together and bought another one. I did this with a "job". Weed could try that as well

EDUIT: His dream is to get other people to pay for his sailing. Dreams of Grifting ............

truly too bad reid hasn't been the kind of guy to elicit the help of more sailors, instead of pissing them off royally. if a fraction of the time spent here on SA blasting the bugger, had instead been spent by a knowledgeable group of sailors to lend a hand to refitting what is so fondly referred to here as the cheese scow, i imagine that the group of passengers/crew/sailors for whom you all express such concern and sympathy for now, would be in much better stead. They'd be aboard a vessel more likely to sail into port in Guyana for inexpensive labor costs, than limp in at best at some time in the future.

the guy may be as off putting to some as newt gingrich to the PA, al gore to rush, michael savage to the queen of england, or obama to the repub right, still he continues to try to live his dream by hook or by crook, and is yet sailing a 70' schooner under his command for more thousands of sea miles offshore successfully, than i daresay any of you couchsitting posters 'ave e'er done.

ok, i'll batten down the hatches now, let the broadsides begin.

Buddha and Jesus each personally told him during his massage that as noble as is mission is, work should never be used to pay for it.

[barleymalt]

truly too bad reid hasn't been the kind of guy to elicit the help of more sailors, instead of pissing them off royally. if a fraction of the time spent here on SA blasting the bugger, had instead been spent by a knowledgeable group of sailors to lend a hand to refitting what is so fondly referred to here as the cheese scow, i imagine that the group of passengers/crew/sailors for whom you all express such concern and sympathy for now, would be in much better stead. They'd be aboard a vessel more likely to sail into port in Guyana for inexpensive labor costs, than limp in at best at some time in the future.

the guy may be as off putting to some as newt gingrich to the PA, al gore to rush, michael savage to the queen of england, or obama to the repub right, still he continues to try to live his dream by hook or by crook, and is yet sailing a 70' schooner under his command for more thousands of sea miles offshore successfully, than i daresay any of you couchsitting posters 'ave e'er done.

ok, i'll batten down the hatches now, let the broadsides begin.

Perhaps if Stowe came across as remotely humble and realistic about his goals and intentions, he might just get more support and less derision. But hey, we're just a bunch of chair warming vultures. What could we possibly offer?.

[pipsqueak]

(exasperated little girl voice):
it's all your fucking fault, anarchist pigs!

baby, you missed us!

sometimes i think you might be slipping over to our side RW..c'mon..take a walk on the wild side..you know how old chum!

set your heavy load down son and strut itttt !

got any more inside scoop? or did you get extinctified in the upgrade?
if you're still in the loop would you care to share your farewells* with the only fans you guys have got?
(who else even gives a shit?)


*humanize the bum if you can, here's your opp. you must have come up with something more convincing by now to showcase..give 'er a spin, RW! xoxo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my my my... look what the cat dragged in..hey AC. did you get that movie made?

[Harpoon]

Pipsqueak, you must stop attempting to cleverly and falsely insert your high pitched squeal for my deep bass drone. Sounds like you musta missed me a lot more than I missed u. I guess I'll have to repeat, calmly in my deep voice- that if any of your concerns are real about Stowe's crew, then the immense time spent here throwing negativity his way, albeit in a sometimes highly creative and entertaining fashion, may have well been better spent actually getting to know the guy and perhaps even giving him a helping hand. For karma's sake alone, a helping hand is better than a vicious slapping down. It truly would be a shame if after the denizens of this obsessively devoted forum have spent years and years predicting his demise, calling for his demise, and actively seeking it, that after all those scores of thousands of offshore nautical miles, his schooner were actually to be severely compromised only now. Surely there would be a hue and cry from the gallery of we told you so, and surely like hyenas waiting to keen over a bloody kill, they're waiting in the wings to pounce.

[couchsurfer]

Pipsqueak, you must stop attempting to cleverly and falsely insert your high pitched squeal for my deep bass drone. Sounds like you musta missed me a lot more than I missed u. I guess I'll have to repeat, calmly in my deep voice- that if any of your concerns are real about Stowe's crew, then the immense time spent here throwing negativity his way, albeit in a sometimes highly creative and entertaining fashion, may have well been better spent actually getting to know the guy and perhaps even giving him a helping hand. For karma's sake alone, a helping hand is better than a vicious slapping down. It truly would be a shame if after the denizens of this obsessively devoted forum have spent years and years predicting his demise, calling for his demise, and actively seeking it, that after all those scores of thousands of offshore nautical miles, his schooner were actually to be severely compromised only now. Surely there would be a hue and cry from the gallery of we told you so, and surely like hyenas waiting to keen over a bloody kill, they're waiting in the wings to pounce.

...THEY WERE WARNED...surely I wasn't the only one to try and insert some perspective into their VERY creepy situation.

...sent to captain and crew.......... Nov 29
....as you prepare to depart into the northern atlantic in winter weather,many of the crew with little time sailing offshore,,let alone the conditions they are VERY likely to face.
HAVE YOU UPDATED THE LIFERAFT???
WILL YOU HAVE RELIABLE RADIO CONTACT??
DO YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT CLOTHING FOR WINTER CONDITIONS AT SEA???...ie survival suits??

..I feel VERY uneasy when I think of your prospects to survive anything but the most benign conditions............hopefully some kind of magic or FOOLS LUCK will keep you safe .
..please re-consider the wisdom of this venture.

[Harpoon]

Couch surfer sits on his bum conscience is clear says pass me a beer.

[Harpoon]

Yes I know, sail flat warned the authorities. Many cried that all is lost! That pos ship will never make it round any Cape at all, let alone the one called Horn. You guys spent the better part of three years attemtpting to warn the world of the certain demise of Sonya Ahmad and R. Stowe, and the utter insane idiocy of any soul who dared to merely wish him well. Wondering if some of your energy spent is becoming self fulfilling prophecy as you sit safely in your homes on shore, still spouting, still landlubbing.

[couchsurfer]

Couch surfer sits on his bum conscience is clear says pass me a beer.

...you got-it,,A-HOLE
..if I was located in new york,I WOULD have intervened

[couchsurfer]

Yes I know, sail flat warned the authorities. Many cried that all is lost! That pos ship will never make it round any Cape at all, let alone the one called Horn. You guys spent the better part of three years attemtpting to warn the world of the certain demise of Sonya Ahmad and R. Stowe, and the utter insane idiocy of any soul who dared to merely wish him well. Wondering if some of your energy spent is becoming self fulfilling prophecy as you sit safely in your homes on shore, still spouting, still landlubbing.

..whutta TROLL

[Rich Frye]

Pipsqueak, you must stop attempting to cleverly and falsely insert your high pitched squeal for my deep bass drone. Sounds like you musta missed me a lot more than I missed u. I guess I'll have to repeat, calmly in my deep voice- that if any of your concerns are real about Stowe's crew, then the immense time spent here throwing negativity his way, albeit in a sometimes highly creative and entertaining fashion, may have well been better spent actually getting to know the guy and perhaps even giving him a helping hand. For karma's sake alone, a helping hand is better than a vicious slapping down. It truly would be a shame if after the denizens of this obsessively devoted forum have spent years and years predicting his demise, calling for his demise, and actively seeking it, that after all those scores of thousands of offshore nautical miles, his schooner were actually to be severely compromised only now. Surely there would be a hue and cry from the gallery of we told you so, and surely like hyenas waiting to keen over a bloody kill, they're waiting in the wings to pounce.

I think, aside from the YCMTSU hilarity that human target has always brought upon himself, the real sentiment is that most do not/should not/will not reward bad behavior. 'Karma' or not.

[america's cup]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my my my... look what the cat dragged in..hey AC. did you get that movie made?

Actually, you've got it backwards Pipper. I'm a Big Cat, remember, and you're the one with the "squeak". So, if anyone got dragged in, it's you!

If you're referring to the "Dunedin" incident, I'm working on it. The working title is "The Story of Anne and Dunedin -- How Fate brought them together, but the Law of Physics drove them apart!" George Clooney - director (from The Men Who Stare at Goats), starring Robert De Niro as Dunedin's captain ("You talkin' to me?"), Leonardo DiCaprio (from Body of Lies) as Reid, Sonia Braga (from The Milagro Beanfield War) as Soanya and "moi" as producer. Give me another year, and it should be out in Theatres near you!  

[Harpoon]

Yes I know, sail flat warned the authorities. Many cried that all is lost! That pos ship will never make it round any Cape at all, let alone the one called Horn. You guys spent the better part of three years attemtpting to warn the world of the certain demise of Sonya Ahmad and R. Stowe, and the utter insane idiocy of any soul who dared to merely wish him well. Wondering if some of your energy spent is becoming self fulfilling prophecy as you sit safely in your homes on shore, still spouting, still landlubbing.

..whutta TROLL

Naw ya woulda sat on yer bum drinking yer Bud talkin shit and doin nutting bout anythin'
I guaranteeeeya

Bcawse asshole, that's wot u did

[pipsqueak]

..whutta TROLL

he's not a troll, really CS. i put him a notch above Charlie, Pete Mello, Tugster, Jesse, whatshisname and the rest of the gang..lurkers.
lucky for us RW has an anger management problem and can't keep it corked. (i relate).

RW's feeling guilty now that he didn't STEP UP even more.
that's what Stowe does..he makes his pals feel guilty until they give and give and give until they really can't justify giving any more. usually it's a family member or spouse who intervenes and says hey..enuff is enuff..when will your buddy be self sustaining and get off the hovian and state gravy train?
the sad part is during all that giving, Stowe has never ONCE reciprocated.
for all his grandiose talk about KARMA..he has NEVER done one nice thing for anyone but himself.
people are tools in his tool box. use them until they break and conjure up new ones.
RW's mad at himself, not us. and he is worried for the crew of the Anne. he knows first hand how dangly the anne is.
he can follow the timeline like any of us.
1. fog can't maneuver/slink around nefarious somethings going on
2. sails blown, crew half dead vomitus
3. bilge overflowing, low batt, everything is breaking, leaking and shitting the proverbial bucket
the natural progression is:
4. blub blub blub
we can cut him a break. at least he has the balls to come here, and speak his mind. (unlike some pot shotters who have access to the media like huffington post, ny mag, in flight magazine, explorers web, ny times, italian sailing press and i could go on..but why bother. we know who they are. phoneys to slam honest sailors.)
now that you bring it up couchsurfer, i too sent a note to a family member of the crew..begging them to check out Shaman Shithead and steering them to the appropriate facts. not myth, RW. facts.
you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop him from drowning i guess CS. yes, RW..my conscience is well fucking clear. and i don't support conmen, women beaters, dead beat daddies, jail birds, ex convicts, convicted felons, or fucktards..(*abbreviated list).
Reido's TRUE nature is evident to everyone but the poor fools he's duped and conned.
i did miss you a little bit RW. i don't mind your snarky bitch ass and i admire your (misplaced) loyalty. i only wish you might have fallen in with a real sailor not this cheap circus act fraud.
Reid Stowe's claim to being a great sailor is basically due to his sociopathy of being incapable of feeling fear. Casse Cou the french say, ask Laurence. He never even sails the boat..he just goes where the wind pushes him. if you were a sailor, you would know the 'art' is in going where YOU want.
i guess we can gather that RW didn't even get a nice goodbye from his 'pal' after all the hours he spent STEPPING UP.
hang around RW.. you might learn something against your best intentions. timmy's explanation of the rudder was tip top 4 ex.
quit with the 'called for his death crap' hon..you can do better than that.
and as far as i'm concerned, you're as close to an anarchist as a fucked up hovian can get.

[america's cup]

One version has it that it took 5 to get the headsail down. Andys version has all 6 pulling the headsail down.
Bet they were glad to see Buddha turn up to lend a hand ..

Actually, maybe it was this one who lent a hand with the headsail. ...or should that be foresail? It looks like she's ready to climb up the mast!

Nice job AC. She's a very attractive young lady, and I'm glad you saved her from being flicked.

This is a safer way to post tits and beaver ---

As the battle of words rages on, time for a Beaver Break!

So tell me, RD, where do you find Beavers like that? This one is close to water, where it belongs. It appears to be looking for something, maybe another beaver!

[Harpoon]

Not a Jovian nor a hovian pipper. It did occur to me as you welcomed me back so joyously, that the devotion of this group to badmouthing Stowe so publicly for years, stalking every article appearing anywhere and any supporter to the point of character assassination being a step below what in actuality did happen- that it did have a cumulative impact. In part it had the effect of helping to dry up his sources of help, and in essence eventually forced this ill-prepared journey to South America in search of a place to put his ship where he might be able afford the very needed serious repairs after three long years at sea, for which he prepared well and at extreme length.




guilty? Moi? No, my dear pip, not I.


Thanks for the mixed bag of compliments, good to hear your left hand clapping, and not slapping.

[pipsqueak]

AC.. i was referring to a documentary you told me your were making about the AC? (fuck another troll? who can keep up? do I have to remember your fking backstory because you can't? because it's already a full time job reminding Viking of where we're at!)

anon RW.
it's not just us RW. the public at large saw through Stowe. we don't control the media..the laugh is that hovians do!
it was Stowe's own personal history and his OWN words that expose him. we only collated them and brought them to a coherent light. don't blame us for your friend's lack of honesty, integrity and accountablilty. plus he is a fucking psychopath.
hope you hang around..

[couchsurfer]

So tell me, RD, where do you find Beavers like that? This one is close to water, where it belongs. It appears to be looking for something, maybe another beaver!

..come now 'AyySee',,,yer don't get more points for re-posting the same tired beaver repeatedly.


...it just gets 'tired'
....RD helped you with your homework last time,,now it's up t'you

[pipsqueak]

....RD helped you with your homework last time,,now it's up t'you

geeze don't encourage him..

was there a spot fix today?

[america's cup]

So tell me, RD, where do you find Beavers like that? This one is close to water, where it belongs. It appears to be looking for something, maybe another beaver!

..come now 'AyySee',,,yer don't get more points for re-posting the same tired beaver repeatedly.


...it just gets 'tired'
....RD helped you with your homework last time,,now it's up t'you

Yes, couchsurfer (I mean Coach!) now it is up to me! I'll get back to "sloshing the deck", coiling the extra halyards, covering the mainsail, tying down the boom, and waiting for that beautiful sunset to arrive, so I can sip another couple of Margaritas, accompanied by a bevy of beavers (OOPS, I mean a record of Buddy Rich banging it out on the drumset, without missing a beat!).

[kent_island_sailor]

Did a little work on your post for you:

Not a Jovian nor a hovian pipper. It did occur to me as you welcomed me back so joyously, that the devotion of this group to badmouthing Stowe so publicly for years, stalking every article appearing anywhere and any supporter to the point of character assassination being a step below what in actuality did happen- that it did have a cumulative impact. In part it had the effect of helping to dry up his sources of help (Help = people willing to give him free stuff he is too lazy-arsed to actually work for), and in essence eventually forced (I remember it well when the SA mob showed up armed and told him go to South America or we shoot) this ill-prepared (exactly right on that one) journey to South America in search of a place to put his ship where he might be able afford the very needed serious repairs after three long years at sea, for which he prepared well and at extreme length (by grifting and conning for all he was worth as opposed to actually fixing his POS boat).



guilty? Moi? No, my dear pip, not I.


Thanks for the mixed bag of compliments, good to hear your left hand clapping, and not slapping.

The concept that Weed "has to" own a boat and "has to" go anyplace is a very odd starting point to work this Hovian logic from

[couchsurfer]

was there a spot fix today?

......hellifIknow

...no really,,I mean HELL,,,,if I know ..not sure what the bearings are

[Harpoon]

[Harpoon]

odds he makes it to Guyana, sails up river, gets his boat redone, and then makes it back to the Caribbean?


i remain amazed at how this group is somehow able to constantly read my mind, know everything i am thinking and feeling, and are even able to correct what i was thinking wrong and to straighten me out as to what is right. my gawd it's like...

it's like i was on a forum run by an omniscient god who was taken prisoner by the collective borg. energize.

beam me up scotty, too much time here already. timmy's back and he's trying to talk turkey way after the bird's flown the thanksgiving coop.

[pipsqueak]

odds he makes it to Guyana, sails up river, gets his boat redone, and then makes it back to the Caribbean?

sry don't gamble. i'm a yankee. what happened to you mr. new amsterdamnation? do you really want to take odds on your friend's survival?
not healthy behavior RW..back away from the keyboard before you go lithium on us.

calm down dude. we all hope they 'get there'. especially the little one of those someones.

it's in our best interest for the story to be never ending. why don't you get that?

[Timmys_Trick_Turkey]

what you mean before he gets sprung by customs again , before his idealistic crew desert him for unnecessarily risking their lives (again) and before he receives summary justice (again).
Same song, different day. So what if he does ? Rand its not his accomplishment, its the dishonourable way that he goes about it. Get the message fella. Your request that Reid be admired, is like worshipping a barnacle, hence no payola for you. You need to change your technique fella. It grows stale.

[Timmys_Trick_Turkey]

odds he makes it to Guyana, sails up river, gets his boat redone, and then makes it back to the Caribbean?


i remain amazed at how this group is somehow able to constantly read my mind, know everything i am thinking and feeling, and are even able to correct what i was thinking wrong and to straighten me out as to what is right. my gawd it's like...

it's like i was on a forum run by an omniscient god who was taken prisoner by the collective borg. energize.

beam me up scotty, too much time here already. timmy's back and he's trying to talk turkey way after the bird's flown the thanksgiving coop.

captured in quote form for posterity...before Rand could delete it. CLASSIC YCMTSU

[america's cup]

AC.. i was referring to a documentary you told me your were making about the AC? (fuck another troll? who can keep up? do I have to remember your fking backstory because you can't? because it's already a full time job reminding Viking of where we're at!)

Sorry, Pipper, not a troll, but you must remember your own words "thanks ac! i can really envision the collision* now!" after I posted a detailed drawing of the event that happened on May5/6 2008. Anyway, I see that your focus is on my namesake, America's Cup 2013 . I don't recall saying that I was making a documentary on this event, but if you say so, I am flattered!  However, the first day I posted to the 1000-day thread on SA was May 5, 2010, and I was focusing at that time on the Press Conference in Rome, to be held the next morning, announcing the would-be host of the next "America's Cup." I did watch the press conference, if that is what you mean. I had to get up early for that one (as they were on UTC +2, i.e. 6 hours ahead of New York). I would love to do a documentary on the real AC, but that's not my specialty. I do some amateur acting on the side, but never directed anything in theatre or film. 

[Timmys_Trick_Turkey]

Rand is at it again. He whips out another sockpuppet troll when he needs someone to agree with him, or when the heat gets too much. Thats dishonest Rand. Thats something Weid would do.

[Harpoon]

what you mean before he gets sprung by customs again , before his idealistic crew desert him for unnecessarily risking their lives (again) and before he receives summary justice (again).
Same song, different day. So what if he does ? Rand its not his accomplishment, its the dishonourable way that he goes about it. Get the message fella. Your request that Reid be admired, is like worshipping a barnacle, hence no payola for you. You need to change your technique fella. It grows stale.

when id i e'er request he be admired?

the criticism he's received is often quite understandable

he's certainly an odd duck, oozing charisma, a uniquely unforgettable character in his own drama.

at times i think i may have appealed for a bit of ....well, kindness and compassion instead of an overflowing of anger and what at times appeared to be real hate.

solidarity and perhaps some support for a fellow sailor upon the ocean, instead of constant condemnation, often of a type undeserving and uninformed, although i imagine this group would never consider themselves "uninformed" about anything under the sun.

[Ghostwriter]

Hmmmm http://1000days.net/...oatbuilding.htm

Its no wonder he had rudder problems, me thinks theres little problems to come, could be wrong though.

[Harpoon]

odds he makes it to Guyana, sails up river, gets his boat redone, and then makes it back to the Caribbean?

sry don't gamble. i'm a yankee. what happened to you mr. new amsterdamnation? do you really want to take odds on your friend's survival?
not healthy behavior RW..back away from the keyboard before you go lithium on us.

calm down dude. we all hope they 'get there'. especially the little one of those someones.

it's in our best interest for the story to be never ending. why don't you get that?

Yankees don't gamble? Billy Martin? Mickey Mantle?

You don't smoke, fuck loose women, or drink beer either?

You mean you're a Puritan? Puritanical? Just off the boat...uh the Mayflower?

[pipsqueak]

was raised 'cards are the devil's kindling wood'.
six years old, i mixed the perfect whiskey sour for the 'girls bridge club'
did they say goodbye to you or what??

[Harpoon]

Now I understand. I've been dealing with an Amish Internet cult all along. Buggy whipped for generations to remain on the farm in Blue Ball Pa. and sternly warned to never ever set out to sea under penalty of death or ostracization for all eternity.

[Regatta Dog]

Not a Jovian nor a hovian pipper. It did occur to me as you welcomed me back so joyously, that the devotion of this group to badmouthing Stowe so publicly for years, stalking every article appearing anywhere and any supporter to the point of character assassination being a step below what in actuality did happen- that it did have a cumulative impact. In part it had the effect of helping to dry up his sources of help, and in essence eventually forced this ill-prepared journey to South America in search of a place to put his ship where he might be able afford the very needed serious repairs after three long years at sea, for which he prepared well and at extreme length.

That is just so much bull shit, RW. He is a comedic target because he invented his own caricature. He had his 5 minutes, but feels he's entitled to more - just like he feels entitled to everything else in life. You, RW, coming here and criticizing people for not stepping up and lending a hand to your favorite narcissist are an enabler. The people here and the world as a whole don't owe Reid Stowe a thing - not a dime, not a hand, and not fame. His boat is in disrepair because he allowed it to fall into disrepair.

His sources of help might have left him because he pulled a bait and switch. He was proclaiming a great scientific expedition to study the ozone hole and then posts on his page asking if anyone knows where it is. He's going to study the impact of global warming on the oceans of the world with daily measurments and the only thermometer he apparently has on board is built into a JC Penny wall clock. After he bilked people out of their money for this journey of exploration and science, he changes the entire focus from a "Mars analogous journey" to the "love voyage". You think his supporters might have been just a tad disappointed to see how the dollars they invested in this project to benefit all of mankind were spent?

"Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana", my ass. He found a bunch of naive kids with credit cards and strong backs to help him deliver a 2kt shit-box to a third-world boatyard.

Oh....and welcome back, RW, I've missed you.

[america's cup]

Your article has the prop cut into the rudder, so that under heavy motoring, the helm lightens up. Reids doesnt. The advantage of the full keel with protected rudder is that if you take ground, or sail into a discarded fishing net, you are less likely to bend your ruddershaft or damage your rudder.

This is the photo just before the launching of the then-named Tantra Schooner in 1978. I see what you mean about the prop. It seems to be built more into the keel, which has a semicircle cut out for it. The bottom of the rudder is attached to the keel as you can see. Just thought I would post this photo so we can all agree that the schooner looked seaworthy at one point in its lifetime.