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#701 Aloha 27

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 08:51 PM

he's not a troll, really CS. i put him a notch above Charlie, Pete Mello, Tugster, Jesse, whatshisname and the rest of the gang..lurkers.
lucky for us RW has an anger management problem and can't keep it corked. (i relate).

RW's feeling guilty now that he didn't STEP UP even more.
that's what Stowe does..he makes his pals feel guilty until they give and give and give until they really can't justify giving any more. usually it's a family member or spouse who intervenes and says hey..enuff is enuff..when will your buddy be self sustaining and get off the hovian and state gravy train?
the sad part is during all that giving, Stowe has never ONCE reciprocated.
for all his grandiose talk about KARMA..he has NEVER done one nice thing for anyone but himself.
people are tools in his tool box. use them until they break and conjure up new ones.
RW's mad at himself, not us. and he is worried for the crew of the Anne. he knows first hand how dangly the anne is.
he can follow the timeline like any of us.
1. fog can't maneuver/slink around nefarious somethings going on
2. sails blown, crew half dead vomitus
3. bilge overflowing, low batt, everything is breaking, leaking and shitting the proverbial bucket
the natural progression is:
4. blub blub blub
we can cut him a break. at least he has the balls to come here, and speak his mind. (unlike some pot shotters who have access to the media like huffington post, ny mag, in flight magazine, explorers web, ny times, italian sailing press and i could go on..but why bother. we know who they are. phoneys to slam honest sailors.)
now that you bring it up couchsurfer, i too sent a note to a family member of the crew..begging them to check out Shaman Shithead and steering them to the appropriate facts. not myth, RW. facts.
you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop him from drowning i guess CS. yes, RW..my conscience is well fucking clear. and i don't support conmen, women beaters, dead beat daddies, jail birds, ex convicts, convicted felons, or fucktards..(*abbreviated list).
Reido's TRUE nature is evident to everyone but the poor fools he's duped and conned.
i did miss you a little bit RW. i don't mind your snarky bitch ass and i admire your (misplaced) loyalty. i only wish you might have fallen in with a real sailor not this cheap circus act fraud.
Reid Stowe's claim to being a great sailor is basically due to his sociopathy of being incapable of feeling fear. Casse Cou the french say, ask Laurence. He never even sails the boat..he just goes where the wind pushes him. if you were a sailor, you would know the 'art' is in going where YOU want.
i guess we can gather that RW didn't even get a nice goodbye from his 'pal' after all the hours he spent STEPPING UP.
hang around RW.. you might learn something against your best intentions. timmy's explanation of the rudder was tip top 4 ex.
quit with the 'called for his death crap' hon..you can do better than that.
and as far as i'm concerned, you're as close to an anarchist as a fucked up hovian can get.


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Posted 14 December 2011 - 08:54 PM

Now I understand. I've been dealing with an Amish Internet cult all along. Buggy whipped for generations to remain on the farm in Blue Ball Pa. and sternly warned to never ever set out to sea under penalty of death or ostracization for all eternity.


easy does it. ironically, it's the anne's crew that come from PA. not me. i grew up right next door to you so to speak.
don't try to derail the thread. it's not about me, it's about your 'hero' Stowe.
i sincerely don't understand your wrath against us.
no one cared about Reid's ridiculous 'records'. he is an abrasive narcissist, not 'oozing' charisma.
you should be thanking us, otherwise he'd be even more obscure!
the ticker tape parade and obama welcome wagon is a hovian fantasy. we didn't ruin his reputation, he did that all by himself.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

hey...he's deleting posts again!
that sucks RW. that's cowardly for sure. i know tensions are running high right now what with the worry for your friends, but that is really 'cheesy'. (couldn't resist).
well said Regatta Dog. a really fair sumnation.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:05 PM

the departure pics of Anne shows that the level of maintenance given by the welcome home hovians was less than anticipated. They couldnt even finish scraping the paint off the sides. Probably because they have never scraped paint in their lives and dont like WORK. (Surprise surprise). So they borrow the credit cards from their parents with inherited wealth, and stock up on paint and scrapers, and head off to a third world boatyard where the labour is affordable/ So while the guyanese sweat and toil using scrapers sandpaper instead of power tools, and fill the Anne up with cheap but satisfactory carvings that can make it worthy to charge an admission fee. the hovian faithful will swan off on tantric yoga trips, and try and find stories worthy of a second book idea. So predictable. If you cant find hovian slaves at home, go overseas and buy some. Suenya is the Judas goat in this story, and slavery is alive and well in Hoviana.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:05 PM


AC.. i was referring to a documentary you told me your were making about the AC? (fuck another troll? who can keep up? do I have to remember your fking backstory because you can't? because it's already a full time job reminding Viking of where we're at!)


Sorry, Pipper, not a troll, but you must remember your own words "thanks ac! i can really envision the collision* now!" after I posted a detailed drawing of the event that happened on May5/6 2008. Anyway, I see that your focus is on my namesake, America's Cup 2013 . I don't recall saying that I was making a documentary on this event, but if you say so, I am flattered! ;) However, the first day I posted to the 1000-day thread on SA was May 5, 2010, and I was focusing at that time on the Press Conference in Rome, to be held the next morning, announcing the would-be host of the next "America's Cup." I did watch the press conference, if that is what you mean. I had to get up early for that one (as they were on UTC +2, i.e. 6 hours ahead of New York). I would love to do a documentary on the real AC, but that's not my specialty. I do some amateur acting on the side, but never directed anything in theatre or film.


The documentary on the America's Cup already happened back in 2007.

America's Cup 1851-2007....Mark your calendar for next Friday April 13, 2007 at 7:00 PM Eastern to tune into ESPN Classic for Gary Jobson's new one hour documentary on the America's Cup.

This special features interviews with many of the top names in sailing including Alinghi owner Ernesto Bertarelli, BMW Oracle Racing Chairman Larry Ellison, past America's Cup champions Ted Turner, Dennis Conner, Russell Coutts, Bill Koch, Halsey Herreshoff, Gary Jobson, Tom Whidden and Olin Stephens. The program is narrated by America's most esteemed television journalist Walter Cronkite. Newly discovered footage, and photographs highlight the first person accounts of the interviewees.

-taken from Performance Yacht Systems, April 6, 2007.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:06 PM

wrath? derail?


man oh man lighten up


if you added up all the adjectives to describe stowe on this site, the devil himself would look at it and want to give you back your souls for a job well done.


wrath? who do you think i am god? you must have a very baaad ass case of too much stow(e)-ing away.

i swear pip, not angry, not typing angry, not yelling not "wrathful" lol i swear


got a case of yankee guilts going on?

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:07 PM

i think regatta dawg is best left ignored.

cowardly pip?

ye knew me not.

and although i do not now and never did worship at the cult of stowe as you lockstep suckers so often did insinuate, i am not about to kiss the ring of ringleader rd at any point in time.

his attempts to slash out and then kiss ass are just too fucking phony for my tastes, man up pip. unless ur a woman.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:15 PM

awww....beam me up too..gotta run.



you deserved a good bye, they suck.
tell Soy she looks like a jerk dressing like Lin Pardey.
happy hovia.



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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:19 PM

i think regatta dawg is best left ignored.

cowardly pip?

ye knew me not.

and although i do not now and never did worship at the cult of stowe as you lockstep suckers so often did insinuate, i am not about to kiss the ring of ringleader rd at any point in time.

his attempts to slash out and then kiss ass are just too fucking phony for my tastes, man up pip. unless ur a woman.


You hurt my feelings.

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:20 PM


i think regatta dawg is best left ignored.

cowardly pip?

ye knew me not.

and although i do not now and never did worship at the cult of stowe as you lockstep suckers so often did insinuate, i am not about to kiss the ring of ringleader rd at any point in time.

his attempts to slash out and then kiss ass are just too fucking phony for my tastes, man up pip. unless ur a woman.


You hurt my feelings.


Not Possible!!! Lord knows, I've tried!!:lol:

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 09:30 PM


Not a Jovian nor a hovian pipper. It did occur to me as you welcomed me back so joyously, that the devotion of this group to badmouthing Stowe so publicly for years, stalking every article appearing anywhere and any supporter to the point of character assassination being a step below what in actuality did happen- that it did have a cumulative impact. In part it had the effect of helping to dry up his sources of help, and in essence eventually forced this ill-prepared journey to South America in search of a place to put his ship where he might be able afford the very needed serious repairs after three long years at sea, for which he prepared well and at extreme length.


That is just so much bull shit, RW. He is a comedic target because he invented his own caricature. He had his 5 minutes, but feels he's entitled to more - just like he feels entitled to everything else in life. You, RW, coming here and criticizing people for not stepping up and lending a hand to your favorite narcissist are an enabler. The people here and the world as a whole don't owe Reid Stowe a thing - not a dime, not a hand, and not fame. His boat is in disrepair because he allowed it to fall into disrepair.

His sources of help might have left him because he pulled a bait and switch. He was proclaiming a great scientific expedition to study the ozone hole and then posts on his page asking if anyone knows where it is. He's going to study the impact of global warming on the oceans of the world with daily measurments and the only thermometer he apparently has on board is built into a JC Penny wall clock. After he bilked people out of their money for this journey of exploration and science, he changes the entire focus from a "Mars analogous journey" to the "love voyage". You think his supporters might have been just a tad disappointed to see how the dollars they invested in this project to benefit all of mankind were spent?

"Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana", my ass. He found a bunch of naive kids with credit cards and strong backs to help him deliver a 2kt shit-box to a third-world boatyard.

Oh....and welcome back, RW, I've missed you.


You know, RD, for once you make sense! :lol:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:13 AM

wrath? derail?


man oh man lighten up


if you added up all the adjectives to describe stowe on this site, the devil himself would look at it and want to give you back your souls for a job well done.


wrath? who do you think i am god? you must have a very baaad ass case of too much stow(e)-ing away.

i swear pip, not angry, not typing angry, not yelling not "wrathful" lol i swear


got a case of yankee guilts going on?


There is no devil
There is no god

Move on.




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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:24 AM

he's certainly an odd duck, oozing charisma, a uniquely unforgettable character in his own drama.



You need to wipe your mouth. I think some of the duck charisma oozed on your chin.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:26 AM

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Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:29 AM



You hurt my feelings.


Not Possible!!! Lord knows, I've tried!!:lol:

Internette fellings our diffent frome fase-to-fase fellinges. :)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:55 AM

The way this is looking at present, thIs voyage could end in tragedy. Bear this in mind when submitting posts

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:57 AM


Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o



For any of the noobs just joining us, this Americas Cup sockpuppet is actually Rand Weeks, the ghostwriter for the 1000 days thread who fabricated a lot of the daily news updates, rewriting them to step around comments made by people on this thread. He is back here again, trying to ingratiate himself while 1000 days thread mk 2 cranks up. Despite his claims to not be a hovian, he is the hovian epicentre, with edit rights to the 1000 days site. (and pretty cranky because he never got paid for it all). His style is to play nice for several posts, turn cranky, storm off, and sneak back as a sock puppet agreeing with his former identity. Pretty sad really.


You're WAY off on that one, tifa the tilerman. I never met someone named Rand Weeks, and don't have anywhere near the style of his writing. Secondly, I joined this thread [EDIT: this Forum] way before you, so how do you know what my contributions were? I never heard of you before, and you need to be more careful whom you accuse of being a sockpuppet. Furthermore, I agreed with RD because that was my honest opinion. You seem to enjoy putting people on the spot. Have fun!! :angry:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:58 AM

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Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007.



So what do the before and after pics say about Reid's "maintenance" ?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:05 AM

You're KIDDING?!
Reid burned a supporter/sponsor/mark?
Who could've seen that coming?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:06 AM

These fake sailors sitting on their asses talking jive shit are frankly talking much too fucking stupid 'n crazy to try to make much sense of any of the crap which passes for truth here. The usual lies, slurs, viciousness and dumshit innuendo. I regret having reappeared if only for the momento. You may all go back to yer usual state of utter confusion, apathy, and dumbshitness which would make forest gump a Rhodes scholar candidate by comparison. It is truly a shame that Tempesta allows this sort of crazed bad mouthing crap to flourish on his erstwhile sailing site. I suppose the 'tude starts from the top dudes. The casualness of the caustic behavior portrayed, beyond a shadow of doubt, has been and continues to be, to the detriment of sailors in general, and reflects poorly upon the sport of sailing itself. It remains an unfortunate study in the abnormal psychology of the anarchic infantile days of the Internet experiment.


Tuba the shillerman is soooo far off the mark, he couldn't find a proper course well enough to beat the fully loaded rudderless schooner Anne around a race course, even if he were racing on a hobiecat on a blustery day.He couldn't find his own dick to beat it off if he had just overdosed on a major swallow of viagra. He couldn't figure out what was coming if you stuck him in a locked cage match wrapped in Israeli flags and blown up photos of bibi netanyahu, with Bullshit Gaytor and AkaGeorgeGoebbels as the tag team opponents.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:08 AM

These fake sailors sitting on their asses talking jive shit are frankly too fucking stooped !n crazy to bother to try to make much of any sense at all. The usual lies, slurs, viciousness and dumshit innuendo. I regret having reappeared if only for the momento. You may all go back to yer usual state of utter confusion, apathy, and dumbshitness which would make forest gump a Rhodes scholar candidate by comparison. It is truly a shame that Tempesta allows kind of crazed bad mouthing crap go on his erstwhile sailing site. It is beyond a shadow of doubt, to the complete detriment of sailors in general, and the sport itself, and an unfortunate study in the abnormal psychology of the infantile days of the Internet experiment.


Do you know what "erstwhile" means?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:11 AM

These fake sailors sitting on their asses talking jive shit are frankly too fucking stooped !n crazy to bother to try to make much of any sense at all. The usual lies, slurs, viciousness and dumshit innuendo. I regret having reappeared if only for the momento. You may all go back to yer usual state of utter confusion, apathy, and dumbshitness which would make forest gump a Rhodes scholar candidate by comparison. It is truly a shame that Tempesta allows kind of crazed bad mouthing crap go on his erstwhile sailing site. It is beyond a shadow of doubt, to the complete detriment of sailors in general, and the sport itself, and an unfortunate study in the abnormal psychology of the infantile days of the Internet experiment.



Have you got some kind of bad ball rash today?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:23 AM

Unbelievable.

OK folk, the way I see it, there are two mantras for Stowe.

1) You can't spell families without lies.
2) Sails left uncovered for an extended period of time will become "shreidded" when you try to use them.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:36 AM

Well said RD and TTT. No doubt this will wash up as a travelling sideshow full of guyanese carvings

"step up step up one and all,.... see the mystical carvings of guyana and the wonderfully maintained schooner Anne, only 50 cents a head..... book specials by Rand Weeks 10 cents each."
Cheap vodka for all.....


"step up step up get in line one and all,.... see the mystical carvings of get a job right here in guyana and the wonderfully maintained at the Third World Boatyard TM working on the schooner Anne, only a remarkable 50 cents a head an hour!.... book specials by Rand Weeks bring tropical hardwood, he's paying 10 cents each per board foot."
Cheap vodka for all.....


Fixed it for ya.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:40 AM

These fake sailors sitting on their asses talking jive shit are frankly talking much too fucking stupid 'n crazy to try to make much sense of any of the crap which passes for truth here. The usual lies, slurs, viciousness and dumshit innuendo. I regret having reappeared if only for the momento. You may all go back to yer usual state of utter confusion, apathy, and dumbshitness which would make forest gump a Rhodes scholar candidate by comparison. It is truly a shame that Tempesta allows this sort of crazed bad mouthing crap to flourish on his erstwhile sailing site. I suppose the 'tude starts from the top dudes. The casualness of the caustic behavior portrayed, beyond a shadow of doubt, has been and continues to be, to the detriment of sailors in general, and reflects poorly upon the sport of sailing itself. It remains an unfortunate study in the abnormal psychology of the anarchic infantile days of the Internet experiment.


Tuba the shillerman is soooo far off the mark, he couldn't find a proper course well enough to beat the fully loaded rudderless schooner Anne around a race course, even if he were racing on a hobiecat on a blustery day.He couldn't find his own dick to beat it off if he had just overdosed on a major swallow of viagra. He couldn't figure out what was coming if you stuck him in a locked cage match wrapped in Israeli flags and blown up photos of bibi netanyahu, with Bullshit Gaytor and AkaGeorgeGoebbels as the tag team opponents.


RW's hitting the Scotch again from his own comfy sofa. Oh the irony.

Stay tuned.....this usually gets pretty good.


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Deep felt hugs, RW.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:57 AM


Well said RD and TTT. No doubt this will wash up as a travelling sideshow full of guyanese carvings

"step up step up one and all,.... see the mystical carvings of guyana and the wonderfully maintained schooner Anne, only 50 cents a head..... book specials by Rand Weeks 10 cents each."
Cheap vodka for all.....


"step up step up get in line one and all,.... see the mystical carvings of get a job right here in guyana and the wonderfully maintained at the Third World Boatyard TM working on the schooner Anne, only a remarkable 50 cents a head an hour!.... book specials by Rand Weeks bring tropical hardwood, he's paying 10 cents each per board foot."
Cheap vodka for all.....


Fixed it for ya.


"step up step up get in line one and all,.... see the mystical carvings of get a job right here in guyana and the wonderfully maintained at the Third World Boatyard TM working on the schooner Anne, only a remarkable 50 cents a head an hour!.... book specials by Rand Weeks bring tropical hardwood, he's paying 10 cents each per board foot."
Cheap Free $10 vodka for all.....



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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:50 AM




Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o



For any of the noobs just joining us, this Americas Cup sockpuppet is actually Rand Weeks, the ghostwriter for the 1000 days thread who fabricated a lot of the daily news updates, rewriting them to step around comments made by people on this thread. He is back here again, trying to ingratiate himself while 1000 days thread mk 2 cranks up. Despite his claims to not be a hovian, he is the hovian epicentre, with edit rights to the 1000 days site. (and pretty cranky because he never got paid for it all). His style is to play nice for several posts, turn cranky, storm off, and sneak back as a sock puppet agreeing with his former identity. Pretty sad really.


You're WAY off on that one, tifa the tilerman. I never met someone named Rand Weeks, and don't have anywhere near the style of his writing. Secondly, I joined this thread [EDIT: this Forum] way before you, so how do you know what my contributions were? I never heard of you before, and you need to be more careful whom you accuse of being a sockpuppet. Furthermore, I agreed with RD because that was my honest opinion. You seem to enjoy putting people on the spot. Have fun!! :angry:


There MUST be a medical term for someone who creates a sockpuppet just so that he can praise himself like Americas Cup (Rand Weeks) praises Regatta Wolf (Rand Weeks).... OMG no wonder you were left standing on the wharf Rand.


No, I am Rand Weeks. And if you don't believe me I will hit my keyboard really hard!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:19 AM




Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o



For any of the noobs just joining us, this Americas Cup sockpuppet is actually Rand Weeks, the ghostwriter for the 1000 days thread who fabricated a lot of the daily news updates, rewriting them to step around comments made by people on this thread. He is back here again, trying to ingratiate himself while 1000 days thread mk 2 cranks up. Despite his claims to not be a hovian, he is the hovian epicentre, with edit rights to the 1000 days site. (and pretty cranky because he never got paid for it all). His style is to play nice for several posts, turn cranky, storm off, and sneak back as a sock puppet agreeing with his former identity. Pretty sad really.


You're WAY off on that one, tifa the tilerman. I never met someone named Rand Weeks, and don't have anywhere near the style of his writing. Secondly, I joined this thread [EDIT: this Forum] way before you, so how do you know what my contributions were? I never heard of you before, and you need to be more careful whom you accuse of being a sockpuppet. Furthermore, I agreed with RD because that was my honest opinion. You seem to enjoy putting people on the spot. Have fun!! :angry:


There MUST be a medical term for someone who creates a sockpuppet just so that he can praise himself like Americas Cup (Rand Weeks) praises Regatta Wolf (Rand Weeks).... OMG no wonder you were left standing on the wharf Rand.




Somebody needs to put a muzzle on this crazy as batshit newbie. A couple of weeks on SA have already driven him quite over the edge.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:35 AM

Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather
Voyage
Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather.

Onward schooner with no steering wheel! My first thoughts were “ how can we go on. The mission is over.” If the rudder had broken down on the 1000 day voyage I never could have completed it. Isn’t it amazing that the rudder made it through that voyage? How can we keep going on? After sailing at sea for longer than any boat in history, doing it on a survival budget and going forward with no budget, how is it possible? It may be impossible for anyone to imagine who is not here on the actual boat that is doing it.
This is the marathon beyond all marathons. Adventurers must first sail beyond 1,152 days to understand how it is to reach mystic levels of the marathon experience.

I am not alone now and we all have keep trying together, to go beyond fear, and seasickness into the realm of “keep going, keep trying, keep believing” because this is life and we can live it with joy, gratitude, and love inspiring our fellow man.

Soanya's View:
It’s daunting to list what’s broken down since leaving port a week ago. We’ve broken half of our coffee mugs, a pot lid shattered, the carpentry in some bunks have been taken apart due to leaks, cabinet doors, windows cracked, pulleys came apart, foresail sheet broke, cockpit seat, motor room hatch, cockpit table, stateroom table, two bathroom doors, intermediate bobstay, turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves, a new lifeline, jib tore, tool box lid broke, bilge pump, the storage bunk came apart and its contents became missiles and the list goes on.
And as if enough things haven’t broken down, the next fatality was the one and only toilet onboard. The head was always a bit sketchy since it was already old before we left and has broken down a few times in various ways. Like when it overflowed during a gale when everyone was seasick and had to be pumped many times before using it, not falling into it in the process as the boat violently bounced in the waves and holding on to our cookies all at the same time. Reid had always been able to make creative fixes and keep it going, but this time was different. Andy helped to take it apart, clean it, and put it back together. It seemed okay at first. The next morning however, it refused to work again. This meant that everyone had to go outside to the stern affectionately called the “poop deck.” The poop deck was always optional, for the fun of the crew. Now in near gale force winds, water splashing over the rolling deck, overcast, and sometimes rainy conditions, the crew goes out in foul weather gear to sit on the oceanic bidet and hold on tight. In a week or so we hope to be in warmer sunnier weather and our deep blue head will once again be a dry airy and scenic experience. Maybe.

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My view

I can tell you with certainty that I am glad I am not on this voyage.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:48 AM

Soanya's View:
the stern affectionately called the “poop deck.” The poop deck was always optional, for the fun of the crew.


anyone still thinking they can't make this shit up ? yes they can !

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:53 PM

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It's daunting to list what's broken down since leaving port a week ago. ...turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves


Um yeah. We all have that problem, don't we? Anyone come up with a fix yet? :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:55 PM

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Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o


I guess this answers my question about sail covers. I usually try not to leave mine uncovered for more than a couple of years at a time at the very most.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:57 PM

turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves

I suppose this is my fault because I failed to donate some cotter pins.

I hope that last post was just made up bullshit. If all that is really true then Reid should be banned from ever being near a boat again for subjecting his "crew" to this voyage of the damned.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

odds he makes it to Guyana, sails up river, gets his boat redone, and then makes it back to the Caribbean?




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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:07 PM

"This is the marathon beyond all marathons. Adventurers must first sail beyond 1,152 days to understand how it is to reach mystic levels of the marathon experience."

I suppose one could only understand the "mystic levels" of a real marathon if one were to walk 26 miles in 12 hours....without sitting down.






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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:32 PM


Posted Image

Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o


I guess this answers my question about sail covers. I usually try not to leave mine uncovered for more than a couple of years at a time at the very most.


Close-up of above photo:

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Look Ma! No covers! (That's just on Day 1!) Just down and to the right of Soanya in this close-up, I think I see a cover rolled up on the deck. I guess someone forgot to put on their covers. :huh: Soanya should have watched this video:




I would let this "Sheila" measure my mainsail anytime. She could even have dinner and a movie after! ;)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:50 PM


Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather
Voyage
Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather.

Onward schooner with no steering wheel! My first thoughts were " how can we go on. The mission is over."
Bullshit. You adjusted the quadrant on the 1000 days trip when you lost your bowsprit, so you know the routine to put it back on. When you inspected the quadrant, you knew it had simply worked its way off, but you concealed it from the crew, and exaggerated it by saying it was broken.

If the rudder had broken down on the 1000 day voyage I never could have completed it.
Bullshit, you drifted in circles.
Isn't it amazing that the rudder made it through that voyage? Nope. It was over engineered.
How can we keep going on? Good question. Insanity is a help.
After sailing at sea for longer than any boat in history, doing it on a survival budget and going forward with no budget, how is it possible?
Well that comment has really pleased your sponsors no end. Credit cards and a bit of recruiting and You are going to suddenly become a prolific and expert carver in exotic woods. Thats how.

It may be impossible for anyone to imagine who is not here on the actual boat that is doing it.
Well that one makes sense.
This is the marathon beyond all marathons. Adventurers must first sail beyond 1,152 days to understand how it is to reach mystic levels of the marathon experience.
Theres that million dollar word again. Mystic.

I am not alone now and we all have keep trying together, to go beyond fear, and seasickness into the realm of "keep going, keep trying, keep believing" because this is life and we can live it with joy, gratitude, and love inspiring our fellow man.
Gratitude to me that is.

Soanya's View:
It's daunting to list what's broken down since leaving port a week ago. We've broken half of our coffee mugs,You should have brought plastic ones a pot lid shattered,glass pot lids are dumb the carpentry in some bunks have been taken apart due to leaksan unmaintained deck, cabinet doors, windows cracked, pulleys came apart, foresail sheet broke, cockpit seat, motor room hatch, cockpit table, stateroom table, two bathroom doors, intermediate bobstay, turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves you didnt frap it did you ?, a new lifeline, jib tore, tool box lid broke, bilge pump, the storage bunk came apart and its contents became missiles and the list goes on.
And as if enough things haven't broken down, the next fatality was the one and only toilet onboard. Through lack of use no doubt The head was always a bit sketchy since it was already old before we left and has broken down a few times in various ways. Like when it overflowed during a gale when everyone was seasick and had to be pumped many times before using it, not falling into it in the process as the boat violently bounced in the waves and holding on to our cookies all at the same time. Reid had always been able to make creative fixes and keep it going, but this time was different. Andy helped to take it apart, clean it, and put it back together. It seemed okay at first. The next morning however, it refused to work again. This meant that everyone had to go outside to the stern affectionately called the "poop deck." The poop deck was always optional, for the fun of the crew. Now in near gale force winds, water splashing over the rolling deck, overcast, and sometimes rainy conditions, the crew goes out in foul weather gear to sit on the oceanic bidet and hold on tight. In a week or so we hope to be in warmer sunnier weather and our deep blue head will once again be a dry airy and scenic experience. Maybe.

-------------------

My view

I can tell you with certainty that I am glad I am not on this voyage.


Rand, either you are back in the hovian edit chair or you just made this all up, because its not on their website yet. Arent you tired of the same old cycle: INGRATIATE/ABUSE/SPIT THE DUMMY/USE OTHER SOCK PUPPET TO PRAISE YOURSELF/THINK ABOUT MAKING ANOTHER SOCK PUPPET/EDIT THE HOVIAN TRIPE TO SUGAR COAT IT/POST IT HERE FOR COMMENT (REPEAT CYCLE).


First of all, as you must have guessed by now, I am NOT Rand's sockpuppet. My interests here are completely different. Secondly, in defence of Rand (aka RW) he posted this report (without your bold edits, which are obviously tampering with the evidence) after it was already posted at the "1000 days" site. I saw it there myself before I saw it here. There goes your theory of him being back in the hovian chair.

Anyway, my real reason for posting this reply is that I want to say, you -- Timmys_Trick_Turkey -- should consider taking over the job of Mission Control Director. Maybe they would have a chance then, beyond "zero point sero." B)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:00 PM

"Mission control" assumes there IS a mission in the first place.
Deliver a boat in extemely poor repair to South America in the winter using volunteer "crew" and scrounged second or third hand equipment and sails is not a mission any sane or responsible seaman would want anything to do with. Any sane person would want to get these people off that boat before something worse happens.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:04 PM

"Mission control" assumes there IS a mission in the first place.
Deliver a boat in extemely poor repair to South America in the winter using volunteer "crew" and scrounged second or third hand equipment and sails is not a mission any sane or responsible seaman would want anything to do with. Any sane person would want to get these people off that boat before something worse happens.

Yes, in an ideal world, sanity would creep into Reid's head and he would say, "Enough of this shit!" :wacko:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:07 PM

Desperate runs south in early winter hoping to beat the North Atlantic storms in rotten POS boats one step ahead of bill collectors actually isn't all that unusual in sailing literature.
I wouldn't give two shits about this if he was by himself. There is no excuse at all for dragging a bunch of hovian idiots out in this mess.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:11 PM



Posted Image

Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o


I guess this answers my question about sail covers. I usually try not to leave mine uncovered for more than a couple of years at a time at the very most.


Close-up of above photo:

Posted Image

Look Ma! No covers! (That's just on Day 1!) Just down and to the right of Soanya in this close-up, I think I see a cover rolled up on the deck. I guess someone forgot to put on their covers. :huh: Soanya should have watched this video:




I would let this "Sheila" measure my mainsail anytime. She could even have dinner and a movie after! ;)


There's a mainsail in that video?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:15 PM




Does anyone remember this? The day it all began, Schooner Anne against the skyline of New York City on April 21, 2007. The 1000-day thread began one day later, the rest is history. Note that from this perspective, both the foremast and the mainmast appear taller than the Empire State Bldg, currently the tallest bldg in NYC. My caption would be: "Departing schooner Anne dwarfs NYC skyline." :o


I guess this answers my question about sail covers. I usually try not to leave mine uncovered for more than a couple of years at a time at the very most.


Close-up of above photo:

Posted Image

Look Ma! No covers! (That's just on Day 1!) Just down and to the right of Soanya in this close-up, I think I see a cover rolled up on the deck. I guess someone forgot to put on their covers. :huh: Soanya should have watched this video:




I would let this "Sheila" measure my mainsail anytime. She could even have dinner and a movie after! ;)


There's a mainsail in that video?


That boat appears to have only one mast, hence, the mainsail, dingo! :unsure:

EDIT: FYI, "Sloop: a Bermuda or gaff mainsail lifted by a single mast with a single jib bent onto the forestay, held taut with a backstay. The mainsail is usually managed with a spar on the underside called a "boom". One of the best-performing rigs per square foot of sail area and is fast for up-wind passages. " B)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:34 PM

Forget it SMC, it's not going anywhere.

If you have to explain the humour with the "there's a mainsail..." to AC, don't bother, the joke is already ruined.

Rudderless, as it were.
Carry on.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:35 PM




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Posted 15 December 2011 - 02:38 PM

Forget it SMC, it's not going anywhere.

If you have to explain the humour with the "there's a mainsail..." to AC, don't bother, the joke is already ruined.


What joke? I thought he was serious! :lol:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:09 PM

Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:11 PM

Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?



Yes.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:17 PM

Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?



I feel deeply sorry for those poor kids who swallowed Stowes "Svengali" bullshit, hook, line and sinker. Stowe himself is pretty despicable for doing it. And for risking the life of his young son.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:30 PM


Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?



I feel deeply sorry for those poor kids who swallowed Stowes "Svengali" bullshit, hook, line and sinker. Stowe himself is pretty despicable for doing it. And for risking the life of his young son.


We've seen the limited comments of Reid, Soanya and their editors regarding recent events. Too bad we can't get some unfiltered insight into how the young crew feels about Stowe and his mission now. Do they still buy into him or are they, more likely, disillusioned that he has so clearly led them into harm's way, even leaving them without a place to crap or puke? My guess is that those credit cards that Reid was counting on to pay for for his Guyanese holiday will more likely be used to buy one way tickets home from their next landfall, God willing.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:35 PM



Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?



I feel deeply sorry for those poor kids who swallowed Stowes "Svengali" bullshit, hook, line and sinker. Stowe himself is pretty despicable for doing it. And for risking the life of his young son.


We've seen the limited comments of Reid, Soanya and their editors regarding recent events. Too bad we can't get some unfiltered insight into how the young crew feels about Stowe and his mission now. Do they still buy into him or are they, more likely, disillusioned that he has so clearly led them into harm's way, even leaving them without a place to crap or puke? My guess is that those credit cards that Reid was counting on to pay for for his Guyanese holiday will more likely be used to buy one way tickets home from their next landfall, God willing.


Word.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:44 PM

Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather
Voyage
Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather.

Onward schooner with no steering wheel! My first thoughts were " how can we go on. The mission is over." If the rudder had broken down on the 1000 day voyage I never could have completed it. Isn't it amazing that the rudder made it through that voyage? How can we keep going on? After sailing at sea for longer than any boat in history, doing it on a survival budget and going forward with no budget, how is it possible? It may be impossible for anyone to imagine who is not here on the actual boat that is doing it.
This is the marathon beyond all marathons. Adventurers must first sail beyond 1,152 days to understand how it is to reach mystic levels of the marathon experience.

I am not alone now and we all have keep trying together, to go beyond fear, and seasickness into the realm of "keep going, keep trying, keep believing" because this is life and we can live it with joy, gratitude, and love inspiring our fellow man.


Are they sailing at the mercy of the wind direction (i.e. gybing and running before the wind)? So, what about the repair that Andy reported 3 days ago on his blog, as being done on the rudder -- "That's all about fixed by now though. I had to dive in the open ocean and go under the boat to fix our rudder problem. That was fun and extremely cold. Saw some jelly fish. And everyone is alive and well.
Now we're headed to the sweet, sweet Caribben (crossing the Gulf Stream today)"

My question is, what fix? Reid is still saying "Onward schooner with no steering wheel! "?? Something does not compute here. Either it is fixed or not. Anyway, a boat without a rudder seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Not good!

...and this "beyond fear" shit, sounds a bit like, "devil may care." Also not good for the "captain" of a ship. :(

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:47 PM

Maybe they rigged a line on either side of the rudder in order to adjust it.

Just a thought.

Sail Safe!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:54 PM

Maybe they rigged a line on either side of the rudder in order to adjust it.

Just a thought.

Sail Safe!


But then, the rudder would be fixed in one position. That is as good as no rudder, because you cannot control where the wind will take you, except maybe to prevent the boat from going in circles, as the rudder can be fixed to line up parallel to the longitudinal axis of the boat. Then at least it would tend to go ahead of the wind and prevent the boat from rounding up. Anyway, how do you steer around an obstacle in your path, with a fixed rudder? Geez, Louise!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:02 PM


Maybe they rigged a line on either side of the rudder in order to adjust it.

Just a thought.

Sail Safe!


But then, the rudder would be fixed in one position. That is as good as no rudder, because you cannot control where the wind will take you, except maybe to prevent the boat from going in circles, as the rudder can be fixed to line up parallel to the longitudinal axis of the boat. Then at least it would tend to go ahead of the wind and prevent the boat from rounding up. Anyway, how do you steer around an obstacle in your path, with a fixed rudder? Geez, Louise!



Sigh.

One option for restoring steerage when you lose your helm or quadrant is to tie two lines to the top of the trailing edge of the rudder. One line going starboard, one line going port. Then from deck you can pull one line or the other line to turn the rudder and steer the boat. In some ocean-going cruising boats you can even see a hole preformed in the top of the trailing edge of the rudder for just this purpose.

I have no idea if Reid and crew pusued this path to their current problems.

And yes - I feel very, very sorry for the pathetic wretches who are stuck out at sea on this floating piece of crap. Its pretty clear that none of them (absent Reid and Sonya) had any idea of what they were getting into, or how poorly prepared they and the boat were for this trip. I suspect most of them deeply regret being out there. I suspect if the boat were any further to the west, you would have seen them pull into port and drop off a good number of the crew. Perhaps Reid thought about that as he plotted his easterly route down to the Caribbean...

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:04 PM

(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:17 PM

What Rail Meat described is the best guess for their solution, yet Stowe maintains they are still rudderless?:blink: Hope those poor kids get off the bondo barge real soon. Missus Backstay and I are happily spending next week with our 21 and 25 yo daughters in Charleston and I can't imagine how the parents of Rachel, Carly and those young men feel about this, if they even have a clue....:(

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:23 PM



Maybe they rigged a line on either side of the rudder in order to adjust it.

Just a thought.

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But then, the rudder would be fixed in one position. That is as good as no rudder, because you cannot control where the wind will take you, except maybe to prevent the boat from going in circles, as the rudder can be fixed to line up parallel to the longitudinal axis of the boat. Then at least it would tend to go ahead of the wind and prevent the boat from rounding up. Anyway, how do you steer around an obstacle in your path, with a fixed rudder? Geez, Louise!



Sigh.

One option for restoring steerage when you lose your helm or quadrant is to tie two lines to the top of the trailing edge of the rudder. One line going starboard, one line going port. Then from deck you can pull one line or the other line to turn the rudder and steer the boat. In some ocean-going cruising boats you can even see a hole preformed in the top of the trailing edge of the rudder for just this purpose.

I have no idea if Reid and crew pusued this path to their current problems.

And yes - I feel very, very sorry for the pathetic wretches who are stuck out at sea on this floating piece of crap. Its pretty clear that none of them (absent Reid and Sonya) had any idea of what they were getting into, or how poorly prepared they and the boat were for this trip. I suspect most of them deeply regret being out there. I suspect if the boat were any further to the west, you would have seen them pull into port and drop off a good number of the crew. Perhaps Reid thought about that as he plotted his easterly route down to the Caribbean...


Thanks for the tutorial, Rail Meat! :)

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My question above was not as stupid as you think. It had occurred to me that two lines would do the trick, but I was mainly questioning the contradictions in Reid's account, and that of Andy. From Reid's own words, there was never any indication that they could "steer" anywhere.

Carry on, my sailing instructor. I shall prep myself for the upcoming exam. The question is, how to jury-rig a rudder without batting an eye! B)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:32 PM

turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves

I suppose this is my fault because I failed to donate some cotter pins.

I hope that last post was just made up bullshit. If all that is really true then Reid should be banned from ever being near a boat again for subjecting his "crew" to this voyage of the damned.


I gues they couldn't wait until the turnbuckles had completely rusted in place...

I hope the parents of his crew are reading this.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:37 PM

(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.


The same goes for you, Aloha 27 (EDIT: Thanks for the tutorial!). Your description was actually more helpful, because it described how one could actually keep changing the rudder's angle to the transom, although this would require one or two people to slacken and/or tighten two separate lines. That is why you call it a temporary/emergency fix. Not suitable in gale-force winds, when a quicker response may be required! ;)

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:39 PM


(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.


The same goes for you, Aloha 27. Your description was actually more helpful, because it described how one could actually keep changing the rudder's angle to the transom, although this would require one or two people to slacken and/or tighten two separate lines. That is why you call it a temporary/emergency fix. Not suitable in gale-force winds, when a quicker response may be required! ;)

You haven't done much blue water sailing have you?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:40 PM


turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves

I suppose this is my fault because I failed to donate some cotter pins.

I hope that last post was just made up bullshit. If all that is really true then Reid should be banned from ever being near a boat again for subjecting his "crew" to this voyage of the damned.


I gues they couldn't wait until the turnbuckles had completely rusted in place...


Oh, is THAT how you're supposed to deal with them? Then why are mine stainless? It's taking them a long time to rust. Can I use the boat in the mean time?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:45 PM



(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.


The same goes for you, Aloha 27. Your description was actually more helpful, because it described how one could actually keep changing the rudder's angle to the transom, although this would require one or two people to slacken and/or tighten two separate lines. That is why you call it a temporary/emergency fix. Not suitable in gale-force winds, when a quicker response may be required! ;)

You haven't done much blue water sailing have you?


No. :blink:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:47 PM



turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves

I suppose this is my fault because I failed to donate some cotter pins.

I hope that last post was just made up bullshit. If all that is really true then Reid should be banned from ever being near a boat again for subjecting his "crew" to this voyage of the damned.


I gues they couldn't wait until the turnbuckles had completely rusted in place...


Oh, is THAT how you're supposed to deal with them? Then why are mine stainless? It's taking them a long time to rust. Can I use the boat in the mean time?


Clearly you and Reid have different standards of what constitutes proper marine gear and maintenance. I'm willing to bet that you even put cotter pins or lock nuts on your turnbuckles too. Where is the adventure in that?

The only thing approaching stainless steel on the Cheese Scow is the flatware, and even that is of dubious origin.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 04:49 PM

Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?


..ever look in th'mirror??? <_<

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:07 PM

Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:17 PM

Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

..I'm not sure if the toddler ''knowingly and willingly puts himself in harm's way'' :unsure:
...and given more 'knowledge' would all of the crew have 'chosen' to go??

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:22 PM


Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

..I'm not sure if the toddler ''knowingly and willingly puts himself in harm's way'' :unsure:
...and given more 'knowledge' would all of the crew have 'chosen' to go??


Agreed, the toddler most likely was kept in the dark about the dangers -- "Darshen, we are going on an adventure. You'll love it!" -- and certainly he did not have a choice about going, unless someone removed him forcibly from his parents' care. So on both counts, he is innocent, and belongs in the same class as any of the other crew members who were duped.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:28 PM

Back in 1987 the Anne was seaworthy and in good mechanical repair. Except for lots of deck leaks, the crew in the hold had visqeen tents set up over their berths. Now I would worry about all that rebar that's the backbone of the boat rusting.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:31 PM

(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.

This could be a way to establish limited control of the rudder. But the reports coming in are pretty vague. First Reid says that the rudder stock broke from the rudder and he put his hand into the packing gland to confirm that the rudder is still there. Then his crew writes that he had been in the water and fixed the problem. Then the latest post blusters about being broken down and how they will persevere, blah, blah, blah,etc, but does not say what is/is not being done. It sounds like they may/may not have effected a jury rig or they do/do not know what to do. I am curious to hear what is being done. This is a serious breakdown and he has others to think about.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:34 PM


(What RM and SR said)

The jury-rigged lines (IF that is indeed what they were able to accomplish) to the rudder would NOT be fixed in one position unless they wished to remain navigating in a more-or-less straight line.
If you wished to alter course to either port or starboard, you would simply tighten the line of the direction you wished to turn while slackening off the other.

To me it is inconceivable that this POS was more ill-prepared for this trip than the 1000 days driftathon.

"It's better to be ashore wishing you were at sea than at sea wishing you were ashore."

Carry on.

This could be a way to establish limited control of the rudder. But the reports coming in are pretty vague. First Reid says that the rudder stock broke from the rudder and he put his hand into the packing gland to confirm that the rudder is still there. Then his crew writes that he had been in the water and fixed the problem. Then the latest post blusters about being broken down and how they will persevere, blah, blah, blah,etc, but does not say what is/is not being done. It sounds like they may/may not have effected a jury rig or they do/do not know what to do. I am curious to hear what is being done. This is a serious breakdown and he has others to think about.


Ditto, to that. 

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:39 PM



Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

..I'm not sure if the toddler ''knowingly and willingly puts himself in harm's way'' :unsure:
...and given more 'knowledge' would all of the crew have 'chosen' to go??


Agreed, the toddler most likely was kept in the dark about the dangers -- "Darshen, we are going on an adventure. You'll love it!" -- and certainly he did not have a choice about going, unless someone removed him forcibly from his parents' care. So on both counts, he is innocent, and belongs in the same class as any of the other crew members who were duped.


...no ,I'd say Darshen is a different case.....AFAIK it's actually a criminal act to knowingly put a child at risk,he's an 'innocent',,,,,the other young adults are fools,,
,,I hope they end up allright.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:49 PM




Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

..I'm not sure if the toddler ''knowingly and willingly puts himself in harm's way'' :unsure:
...and given more 'knowledge' would all of the crew have 'chosen' to go??


Agreed, the toddler most likely was kept in the dark about the dangers -- "Darshen, we are going on an adventure. You'll love it!" -- and certainly he did not have a choice about going, unless someone removed him forcibly from his parents' care. So on both counts, he is innocent, and belongs in the same class as any of the other crew members who were duped.


...no ,I'd say Darshen is a different case.....AFAIK it's actually a criminal act to knowingly put a child at risk,he's an 'innocent',,,,,the other young adults are fools,,
,,I hope they end up allright.


I stand corrected, couchsurfer! The other crew members (the so-called new recruits) went willingly, which is not the case of Darshen, but as for knowledge of what they were getting into, they were definitely fooled. But does that make them fools, or trusting innocents? That is the question.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:57 PM

With the divine help of Jesus Buddha Mary Joseph, the leaking sail challenged toiletless Cheese Scow will make it to the river jungle of Guyana eventually, and there the biggest problem will be many Mosquitoes, the sky high cost of terlit paper, finding an Internet connection to arrange a ticket to fly back home. Perhaps after suffering through this one, Reid'll decide to base the Schooner in Guyana after extensive refitting-hang out with Soanya's family there-and give Darsh a land based playground w/o the weather drama for a couple of years.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:00 PM

With the divine help of Jesus Buddha Mary Joseph, the leaking sail challenged toiletless Cheese Scow will make it to the river jungle of Guyana eventually, and there the biggest problem will be many Mosquitoes, the sky high cost of terlit paper, finding an Internet connection to arrange a ticket to fly back home. Perhaps after suffering through this one, Reid'll decide to base the Schooner in Guyana after extensive refitting-hang out with Soanya's family there-and give Darsh a land based playground w/o the weather drama for a couple of years.


all on a three month tourist visa?
(plus possible 3 month extention)
.....why not. i guess we should expect another flag change from the abdicating benidict arnold. maybe the french will pay his immigration fees. i doubt he would sign the boat over to Soy, regardless she birth(ed) his( 2 )babies.. wtf do i know..i am just a pooper.
how do you know your man will make port, got some inside scoop yet? a position at least?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:13 PM


With the divine help of Jesus Buddha Mary Joseph, the leaking sail challenged toiletless Cheese Scow will make it to the river jungle of Guyana eventually, and there the biggest problem will be many Mosquitoes, the sky high cost of terlit paper, finding an Internet connection to arrange a ticket to fly back home. Perhaps after suffering through this one, Reid'll decide to base the Schooner in Guyana after extensive refitting-hang out with Soanya's family there-and give Darsh a land based playground w/o the weather drama for a couple of years.


all on a three month tourist visa?
(plus possible 3 month extention)


Pipper, I found this information that might answer your question --

"The Government of the Republic of Guyana has with effect from February 15th, 1993, abolished the visa requirement for the following countries:

North America
The United States of America and Canada

Western Europe
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Ireland, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, Sweden and Austria.

Commonwealth
Australia and New Zealand

Asia
Japan, The DPRK and the Republic of Korea CARICOM
Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Grenada, Jamaica, Montserrat, St. Lucia, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, and Trinidad and Tobago."


Even if you have a visa, the following applies:

"(d) the granting of a visa does not necessarily guarantee entry into Guyana. Entry will be dependent upon satisfying the usual Immigration requirements/procedures at the port of entry.

(e) A visitor who without permission breaches his/her condition of entry while in Guyana may become eligible for deportation."

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:16 PM



With the divine help of Jesus Buddha Mary Joseph, the leaking sail challenged toiletless Cheese Scow will make it to the river jungle of Guyana eventually, and there the biggest problem will be many Mosquitoes, the sky high cost of terlit paper, finding an Internet connection to arrange a ticket to fly back home. Perhaps after suffering through this one, Reid'll decide to base the Schooner in Guyana after extensive refitting-hang out with Soanya's family there-and give Darsh a land based playground w/o the weather drama for a couple of years.


all on a three month tourist visa?
(plus possible 3 month extention)


Pipper, I found this information that might answer your question --

"The Government of the Republic of Guyana has with effect from February 15th, 1993, abolished the visa requirement for the following countries:

North America

The United States of America and Canada

Western Europe

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Ireland, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Norway, Finland, Switzerland, Sweden and Austria.

Commonwealth

Australia and New Zealand

Asia

Japan, The DPRK and the Republic of Korea
CARICOM

Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Grenada, Jamaica, Montserrat, St. Lucia, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, and Trinidad and Tobago."

Even if you have a visa, the following applies:

"(d) the granting of a visa does not necessarily guarantee entry into Guyana. Entry will be dependent upon satisfying the usual Immigration requirements/procedures at the port of entry.

(e) A visitor who without permission breaches his/her condition of entry while in Guyana may become eligible for deportation."

STFU AC.
they also refuse clearance to convicted drug smugglers, which el capitano meets all criterion. but that won't stop him. he's got so many greased wheels sometimes i wonder if he's a fking narc.



Northern Sails, thanks very much for the gorgeous photo.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:25 PM



With the divine help of Jesus Buddha Mary Joseph, the leaking sail challenged toiletless Cheese Scow will make it to the river jungle of Guyana eventually, and there the biggest problem will be many Mosquitoes, the sky high cost of terlit paper, finding an Internet connection to arrange a ticket to fly back home. Perhaps after suffering through this one, Reid'll decide to base the Schooner in Guyana after extensive refitting-hang out with Soanya's family there-and give Darsh a land based playground w/o the weather drama for a couple of years.


all on a three month tourist visa?
(plus possible 3 month extention)


STFU AC.
they also refuse clearance to convicted drug smugglers, which el capitano meets all criterion. but that won't stop him. he's got so many greased wheels sometimes i wonder if he's a fking narc.

Northern Sails, thanks very much for the gorgeous photo.


I see that civility is not in your vocabulary. Have a nice day! -that applies to you and all the jerks who have nothing better to do than accuse people of being socks when all they try to do is engage in a civilized dialogue with other interested parties. I'm not impressed! Good thing I don't know you in real life! Jerk!

P.S. Adios, amigos!



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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:25 PM





Day 10 of the Voyage to the Mystic Jungles of Guyana, and already 41,110 views on this thread. Do we have enough time to make it to 100,000? For the sake of everyone on board the Anne, I sure hope so! Of course, most critical is the safety of those on the boat who were unaware of the risks involved. Not that I don't value the lives of all concerned, but when one knowingly and willingly puts oneself in harm's way, no one should feel sorry for the consequences. Think of the risk of climbing Mt. Everest. Even with the best of preparations, one is flirting with death, plain and simple, and no one should feel sorry if you don't make it!

..I'm not sure if the toddler ''knowingly and willingly puts himself in harm's way'' :unsure:
...and given more 'knowledge' would all of the crew have 'chosen' to go??


Agreed, the toddler most likely was kept in the dark about the dangers -- "Darshen, we are going on an adventure. You'll love it!" -- and certainly he did not have a choice about going, unless someone removed him forcibly from his parents' care. So on both counts, he is innocent, and belongs in the same class as any of the other crew members who were duped.


...no ,I'd say Darshen is a different case.....AFAIK it's actually a criminal act to knowingly put a child at risk,he's an 'innocent',,,,,the other young adults are fools,,
,,I hope they end up allright.


I stand corrected, couchsurfer! The other crew members (the so-called new recruits) went willingly, which is not the case of Darshen, but as for knowledge of what they were getting into, they were definitely fooled. But does that make them fools, or trusting innocents? That is the question.


..hopefully those 'foolish innocent' young adults learn something.,,
,,and live long enough t'use that new-found wisdom :unsure:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:34 PM

I see that civility is not in your vocabulary. Have a nice day! -that applies to you and all the jerks who have nothing better to do than accuse people of being socks when all they try to do is engage in a civilized dialogue with other interested parties. I'm not impressed! Good thing I don't know you in real life! Jerk!


will you chill out you fking attention whore? who cares about your fking itinerary 3 years ago or your dipshit inconsistencies.
focus bro!
*fucktard..he'll be back..or not..

couchsurfer, thanks for keeping priorities. i feel like i'm swimming through maple syrup with all these douchebags.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:46 PM




turnbuckles so new they unwind themselves

I suppose this is my fault because I failed to donate some cotter pins.

I hope that last post was just made up bullshit. If all that is really true then Reid should be banned from ever being near a boat again for subjecting his "crew" to this voyage of the damned.


I gues they couldn't wait until the turnbuckles had completely rusted in place...


Oh, is THAT how you're supposed to deal with them? Then why are mine stainless? It's taking them a long time to rust. Can I use the boat in the mean time?


Clearly you and Reid have different standards of what constitutes proper marine gear and maintenance. I'm willing to bet that you even put cotter pins or lock nuts on your turnbuckles too. Where is the adventure in that?
...


What's a "cotter pin"? Is that like a "front page" or a "tooth fairy" or something?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 06:53 PM

"Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather."

Rand, do you know their position??

Going SE, even at 3 knots, they should make Bermuda today..

PS, would Reid and Andy really be working on the head without fixing the rudder first??


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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:15 PM



Timmy is as fucking out of his mind as the tuba tiller woman. It is fucking unbelievable what passes for posting on this gawdfersakenly stupid and hating site of many shitheads and a couple of poopers. So, does anyone feel for those fuckers floundering at sea, or is everybody so wrapped in the mantle of stoweawayhating that any attempt to do otherwise is restrained by years of practice?



I feel deeply sorry for those poor kids who swallowed Stowes "Svengali" bullshit, hook, line and sinker. Stowe himself is pretty despicable for doing it. And for risking the life of his young son.


We've seen the limited comments of Reid, Soanya and their editors regarding recent events. Too bad we can't get some unfiltered insight into how the young crew feels about Stowe and his mission now. Do they still buy into him or are they, more likely, disillusioned that he has so clearly led them into harm's way, even leaving them without a place to crap or puke? My guess is that those credit cards that Reid was counting on to pay for for his Guyanese holiday will more likely be used to buy one way tickets home from their next landfall, God willing.


Normal routes would put that in Bermuda?




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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:32 PM

Normal routes would put that in Bermuda?




unless the magnet of the silver banks sucks them in. last course was 170. these jack offs would rather bicker on a forum than provide a fix.




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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:42 PM

I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:48 PM

I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?

What was the story on this picture?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 07:53 PM


I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?

What was the story on this picture?



Ried not doing repairs but cutting up firewood to keep warm sailing in the Southern Ocean on the way to Antarctica.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:00 PM

I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?



repetitive behavior is key to predicting this limited repetoire. damn. you're killing me here NS. there is a little boy onboard. go ahead and let it out friend. i for one, see where you're coming from.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:17 PM

I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?


Is that a still from "The Shining"?

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:18 PM

you know, i read stuff from dads who are sweating bullets to make their kids safe and happy like bj..*sry if i shouldn't reference you in this thread' but shit..the guy is fking doing cartwheels to put his kids to sea THE RIGHT WAY and then this shit..

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:29 PM

I wonder if this scene is repeating itself?

What do you mean you want to get off ?
What do you mean by you are not giving me your credit card ?
Imagine waking up in your bunk to a vision like that ? No wonder Rachel wears a yellow knife on her.

What money Rand ? You said YOU would get the paypal ticking over. So where is it ? I told you we'd need it for the next load... I never promised YOU any money now get the fk off my boat.....

A Hovian shower scene from psycho, crossed with Deliverance, Dead Calm. All thats missing is for Rachel to spawn an Alien 2. In time, all things shall pass.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:30 PM

The Tragically Hip- Nautical Disaster



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Posted 15 December 2011 - 08:37 PM

Suenyas family, waiting for their saviour benefactor to arrive and pay them 50 cents an hour...
zoom in on the expressions of the women, genuine slaves, and tell me you arent exploiting the same type of people Reid/Rand.

And here rests Reid Stowe, saviour of mankind.....
and in this crevice lies his sidekick, Rand the hopeful enabler.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:28 PM

[quote name='seacat' timestamp='1323975221' post='3508839']
"Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather."

Rand, do you know their position??

Going SE, even at 3 knots, they should make Bermuda today..

On a more serious note for the sake of the youngin, does anyone know if the Captain and or crew have any tools electronic or not in the chest to even find Burmuda? if he is not within about 10 miles from it he'll drift on by?

O how foolish of me, Maybe he will just look up for 747s overhead & follow them in.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:29 PM

Stowe only replaced parts he was given. Cronin did all the work on bowsprit fabrication and I'm certain the metal itself was "donated" by some bedazzled sucker.

Even if he makes it to the South American Heart of Darkness and pays 10 cents an hour for labor he will still have to provide the parts and materials to effect any meaningful repairs. Bits for 70' schooners generally don't come cheap.

Still maintain he's broke and resorting to the revenue source he is most familiar with, smuggling. Whether exotic hardwoods, drugs or gold, one trip from the jungle to his old Caribbean connections could easily pay for a new head, standing and running rigging, etc. How do you think he got the coin to build the thing in the first place? Stowe will first replenish the coffers and then effect repairs.

At this point, all speculation aside, I only hope Stowe's crew get their feet on solid ground safely and flee his grasp.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:39 PM


"Wednesday, 14 December 2011
Dec. 14 Wind NE 30-35 Course SE, 3 knots
Lots of days of rain squalls and rough rolly weather."

Rand, do you know their position??

Going SE, even at 3 knots, they should make Bermuda today..

On a more serious note for the sake of the youngin, does anyone know if the Captain and or crew have any tools electronic or not in the chest to even find Burmuda? if he is not within about 10 miles from it he'll drift on by?

O how foolish of me, Maybe he will just look up for 747s overhead & follow them in.


He's got a 'SPOT' GPS system...if it's still working!!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:39 PM

AFTER temporarily jumping back into this long running mega-obsessive crack smoking spec ulation thread on all things Reidian, as much as I would love to join the goofy and at times funny comraderie (especially liked Tabman's gonna hit that--- someone should set it to music, a reid Stowe rap) got to tell you, some of you guys are truly & frighteningly nuts. It makes me think that it would be understandable to possibly prefer bilge pumping poop deck shitting sail sewing turn buckle cotter pin inserting mug gluing rudder fixing rice and beans and sprouts eating sailing on a leaky ship than to hang with some of truly crazed wackos right here.




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