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[in_TO]

My gut says Soverel 55

[BvanVugt]

No idea really, but looks to be bigger then 55ft

It sort of reminds me of Lion New Zealand, so id guess in the 70ft range

[Jaded]

I'm thinking soverel 55 "the shadow".

[Irishdriver]

It's not mine.

ID

[Mike Hunt]

I'm thinking soverel 55 "the shadow".

Yup - that's what it is. The owner apparently had it shipped from the west coast. It was in Port Credit for a while but has been in Hamilton for a few years now. I've never seen it leave the dock...

[Bob Perry]

In to:
Who took that photo of the Soverel? Is it your's? I may like to use it if that's OK in an upcoming article in GOB on the IOR. That stern is a perfect example of the AGS/AIGS distortion. If you pass that way again could you get a close up of the stern. I will give photo credit. GOB can't run pics without getting an Ok from the photographer.

[slater-san]

Wow...."The Shadow" lives on. Where is it now???

Oh I got it....Lake Ontario.

[P_Wop]

Oh boy, that brings back memories. We won the 84 Kenwood "Hate the State Race" (and the Kenwood too, as part of the US Blue team) on that one, with Mark S and The Whale and a crowd of disreputables. A seriously loaded-up rig. There are some good pix of her in the SF Big Boat Series later that summer which I'll try to dig out and scan.

[sledracr]

classic soverel... the only designer who saw an advantage in doing a not-quite-masthead ("15/16ths") rig under the IOR

[Great Red Shark]

Yeah, a 55-footer wearing a 4-spreader in-line fractional rig with runners of Death and possibly a textbook example of contorted sterns ?

If that's not the answer to "Why IOR Needed to Die" I don't know what is.

Before you answer, ask yourself if you'd rather sail this or a TP52.

[shadow55]

My gut says Soverel 55

That is Haro Strait formerly Shadow!

[ropetrick]

Yeah, a 55-footer wearing a 4-spreader in-line fractional rig with runners of Death and possibly a textbook example of contorted sterns ?

If that's not the answer to "Why IOR Needed to Die" I don't know what is.

Before you answer, ask yourself if you'd rather sail this or a TP52.

The TP 52 would be fast and fun...... But it wouldn't give you the same rush as cheating death on that Sov.

[tuf-luf]

And it's been stained with lazyjacks too...UGH!

Cool old IOR bus!

[notallthere]

Wow...."The Shadow" lives on. Where is it now???

Oh I got it....Lake Ontario.

I used to think that thing was cooler than Swiftsure... Is this retro week on SA or something?

[some dude]

Yeah, a 55-footer wearing a 4-spreader in-line fractional rig with runners of Death and possibly a textbook example of contorted sterns ?

If that's not the answer to "Why IOR Needed to Die" I don't know what is.

Before you answer, ask yourself if you'd rather sail this or a TP52.

The TP 52 would be fast and fun...... But it wouldn't give you the same rush as cheating death on that Sov.

MAJOR loads on that thing. I bet it hasn't gotten less scary in the last 20 years

[slater-san]

Wow...."The Shadow" lives on. Where is it now???

Oh I got it....Lake Ontario.

I used to think that thing was cooler than Swiftsure... Is this retro week on SA or something?

It probably wouldn't have crumbled so easily when bumped into the rocks like Swifty did.

[some dude]

Wow...."The Shadow" lives on. Where is it now???

Oh I got it....Lake Ontario.

I used to think that thing was cooler than Swiftsure... Is this retro week on SA or something?

It probably wouldn't have crumbled so easily when bumped into the rocks like Swifty did.

prolly not. But then Swiftsure wound up with a cool rebuild in time for Transpac thanks to those rocks

[jetfuel]

its for sale
The owner has redone the interior to make it crusier. Was at the Outer Harbor a few yr ago before Hamilton. Trucks upwind.

[tuf-luf]

its for sale
The owner has redone the interior to make it crusier. Was at the Outer Harbor a few yr ago before Hamilton. Trucks upwind.

Can you imagine cruising the North Channel of L Huron in that thing.

[ALittleLoose]

its for sale
The owner has redone the interior to make it crusier. Was at the Outer Harbor a few yr ago before Hamilton. Trucks upwind.

Can you imagine cruising the North Channel of L Huron in that thing.

uhhhh - no!

hard enough to keep a J-105 off the rocks. Fun to transit the North Channel with it though, just don't try to go into the anchorages.

[tuf-luf]

its for sale
The owner has redone the interior to make it crusier. Was at the Outer Harbor a few yr ago before Hamilton. Trucks upwind.

Can you imagine cruising the North Channel of L Huron in that thing.

uhhhh - no!

hard enough to keep a J-105 off the rocks. Fun to transit the North Channel with it though, just don't try to go into the anchorages.

We saw a C&C51 in the back back bay of Croker Island once. Had to rub my eyes first before it sank in.

I dare say this thing draws a shitload more water though.

Nevermind. Someone said "cruiser" and N Channel popped in brain.

[Polaris]

It can be all yours for $47,713.00 http://www.yachtworl...boat_id=2413424

Have to find a couple of good hands to make her go. (like 12 or 14)

[Left Hook]

Paging the shadow, looks like you have another boat to live on.

[Becalmed]

I heard it had the keel shortened to 5' or so.... maybe they are selling it a lb at a time.

[some dude]

Looks like the "new cruising interior" consists of canvas covers over the cubbies. The rest is original (although I think the cushions used to be red. Maybe new covers on those is part of the new cruising interiior too)

[_Vegas_]

I heard it had the keel shortened to 5' or so.... maybe they are selling it a lb at a time.

I'm gonna cry ...

[tuf-luf]

It can be all yours for $47,713.00 http://www.yachtworl...boat_id=2413424

Have to find a couple of good hands to make her go. (like 12 or 14)

Ref: yachtworld pix--> Don't think I've ever seen a teddy bear on a racing yacht before. Oh wait, it's a cruiser now. Ok.

[PDG]

It can be all yours for $47,713.00 http://www.yachtworl...boat_id=2413424

Have to find a couple of good hands to make her go. (like 12 or 14)

Ref: yachtworld pix--> Don't think I've ever seen a teddy bear on a racing yacht before. Oh wait, it's a cruiser now. Ok.

...And the coffee maker bungeed to the cabinetry.

Cruiser...riiiiight. No way in hell that winch farm will ever be a cruiser.

[Nicknick32]

This is "the shadow". Or was but went to the haro streaight ....... Now has been bought and now. "shadow" it was bought and is heading to Spain then Germany. I am currently typing this from my iPhone laying on one o it's bunks heading down the st.lawrence in Quebec .... Nfld of Halifax is the talk of the night right now for her next stop acter old Quebec city.

If any one has any pic of it back in her day please let me know. Cheers.

"the shadow lives on"

[DRIFTW00D]

Good luck. Have fun .

[SPORTSCAR]

A mate of mine ( Dave Kuhl) sent me this proof photo back in 1983 when he was sailing on the boat. I still have a Shadow crew shirt somewhere too.

 The Shadow.jpg   418.39K   139 downloads

[isma]

Nice shot, I started bleeding just seeing the wire sheets on the jib.

[Asymptote]

Oh, man. Those vertical paneled genoas...Sobstad's worst contribution to sail design, I believe. Wire sheet with the splice right in the turning block? And a quarter wake that might scare Laird Hamilton.

So little time...so much to forget.

[A3A]

The leech cut genoas were North "innovations", from the Schnack. The draft was reduced for Transpac, but the cut off portion was reattached later that summer before the BBS in SF. She carried a unique winch handle custom made for the runners. 18" long, double grip with a ratchet. It was barely enough to get the runner up to sailing load. And the runners, sheets, guys and halyards were 7 x 19 plow steel wire rope. Loops and brummel splices are child's play compared to a wire rope splice.

[soling2003]

The wire rope splices were cool, but damn I hated doing them!

[SPORTSCAR]

A mate of mine ( Dave Kuhl) sent me this proof photo back in 1983 when he was sailing on the boat. I still have a Shadow crew shirt somewhere too.

 The Shadow.jpg   418.39K   139 downloads

 Shadow shirt (1).JPG   41.57K   24 downloads

[By the lee]

Wouldn't it be kinda' hard to entertain with those wires running through the living room and pantry like that?