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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:30 AM

Word on the ground is that Loyal is being protested. Hope it's just a rumour.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:31 AM

What a blast!! Still 150 people in this thread.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:32 AM

Congrats to Loyal bloody awesome

Oats was my fave but this is soooooooo good for the race.

ABC24 will be going live to the docking soon, bloody funny have to watch, laughing too much, they just can't get their shit together :lol:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:33 AM

Race website still says 1nm to go.

Perfect. Oh well. Worked pretty well most of the race.


Now... GO THE LOKI!!!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:36 AM

Alright then...now to the real race, though no doubt the Loyal guys sailed very well.

Any advance..... IRC bets on.... Victoire or Loki (though Loki position inferred from 1800 sked?)


Also, any anarchists with good theory about very modest perfoprmance by AFR Midnight Rambler - aside of 24 + hours hard upwind....?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:37 AM

RAGAMUFFIN now leading IRC.... be farking funny if Syd won overall.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:37 AM

Word on the ground is that Loyal is being protested. Hope it's just a rumour.

Did anyone see red flag at the finish?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:39 AM

RAGAMUFFIN now leading IRC.... be farking funny if Syd won overall.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:39 AM


Great coverage by ABC news 24


Bloody funny now the scripting machine doesnt work

yeah I'm waiting for that dude to GO OFF like Ricko

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:40 AM

Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:41 AM



Great coverage by ABC news 24


Bloody funny now the scripting machine doesnt work

yeah I'm waiting for that dude to GO OFF like Ricko

Yeah next time I see MR I will have to tell him my 89 yr old grandmother was not amused with his potty mouth.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:42 AM

final margin 3 min 8 sec

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:43 AM

Imagine the swearing coming from ricko for the last couple of hours.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:44 AM

If it was oats in front same thing would happen. Would they get protested.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:47 AM

acording to abc, protest lodged by race committie against loyal for outside assistance from abc chopper

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:48 AM

If it was oats in front same thing would happen. Would they get protested.

Ummmmmmmmm WTF is the protest & I believe they did last year re radio transmission ..... I hope it doesn't eventuate .....

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:48 AM

Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:49 AM

2GB just reported Loyal to be protested by race committee. Rule 41 outside assistance. Has anyone heard anything?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:49 AM

Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

Hope someone on Loyal wasn't reading my Derwent tactics here!!!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:50 AM

acording to abc, protest lodged by race committie against loyal for outside assistance from abc chopper


where the hell is Ben Ainslie when ya really need him....he would have caught the chopper with his mainsheet.....grappled his way on board and given the crew a thoroughly good mild mannered conversation

can't wait to hear the details of this one.

in other news the RYCT is adding the Oatley wing to their clubhouse next year.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:51 AM


Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

Pretty piss poor if that happens.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:51 AM


Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

Hope someone on Loyal wasn't reading my Derwent tactics here!!!

yeah i know - i called stefanovic a F#*k!ng CLOWN

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:52 AM



Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

Pretty piss poor if that happens.


Please no.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

Race website still says 1nm to go.

Perfect. Oh well. Worked pretty well most of the race.


Now... GO THE LOKI!!!



RAGAMUFFIN now leading IRC.... be farking funny if Syd won overall.


My $20 is looking good.


Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???


Farking bullshit after last years events. Ricko/Bob calls race committee, protest the bastards or your all toast, we own you.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:53 AM

Apparently a crew member asked from assistance from the ABC chopper yesterday

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:54 AM


acording to abc, protest lodged by race committie against loyal for outside assistance from abc chopper


where the hell is Ben Ainslie when ya really need him....he would have caught the chopper with his mainsheet.....grappled his way on board and given the crew a thoroughly good mild mannered conversation

Apparently extra wind provided by ABC chopper. Ask Accenture Yeah Baby how much help that was in the kite run after the start. What would Gary Ticehurst be thinking? I mean, who asks for a helicopter to blast you with rotor wash?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:55 AM

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2GB just reported Loyal to be protested by race committee. Rule 41 outside assistance. Has anyone heard anything?


What a load of bullocks! Has the potential to kill the S2H.
According to ABC RC protest is for outside assistance from ABC chopper. Can't see it having any legs.On for tomorrow!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:56 AM

Apparently a crew member asked from assistance from the ABC chopper yesterday

Apparently asked the chopper what sail oats had up. Don't they know he was only kidding. Piss poor if they get thrown out for that considering wot oats got away with last year

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:56 AM


acording to abc, protest lodged by race committie against loyal for outside assistance from abc chopper


where the hell is Ben Ainslie when ya really need him....he would have caught the chopper with his mainsheet.....grappled his way on board and given the crew a thoroughly good mild mannered conversation

can't wait to hear the details of this one.

in other news the RYCT is adding the Oatley wing to their clubhouse next year.

Ben Ainslie the Chuck Norris of sailing.




This protest is going to do more for the races profile than even Karl stephanovic. Who would have thought it Johnny? :P

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:56 AM

Amy knows her stuff & is cute as well ......

Anyway GO LOKI

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:57 AM

Would be a surprise, up here, if any news helo crew could accurately tell what sails another boat had up. Just not that level of reporting available here. I'd be shocked if they'd be able even to say "main and jib" let alone anything truly helpful.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:57 AM

Any more news on Syd and the protest?

Great coverage from all SAers as well.

Edit

Somebody remind me what happened with Oats last year and protests?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:57 AM

Valid protest, or a way to get the woxi crew to spend some money at the bar?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 08:58 AM


Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

Did the ABC pilot give an answer?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:00 AM

Alright then...now to the real race, though no doubt the Loyal guys sailed very well.

Any advance..... IRC bets on.... Victoire or Loki (though Loki position inferred from 1800 sked?)


Also, any anarchists with good theory about very modest perfoprmance by AFR Midnight Rambler - aside of 24 + hours hard upwind....?


Hard to bet on Loki b/c of her inferred position for quite a few hours.

The Ker is not looking hot, the S38's are nipping at AFR's heals. I know it's only one boat and one team but she should be farther down the course then that.

Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:01 AM

Farkin Crap, lets see the mobile fone logs. Smacks of the Edwardo call on race 2 of the AC.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:01 AM

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Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

Did the ABC pilot give an answer?


It doesn't have legs, the win will stand, the S2H RC just loves protocol, aka last year.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:02 AM

Channel 7 news on at the moment says they won't finish for a couple of hours....Pethetic

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:05 AM


Alright then...now to the real race, though no doubt the Loyal guys sailed very well.

Any advance..... IRC bets on.... Victoire or Loki (though Loki position inferred from 1800 sked?)


Also, any anarchists with good theory about very modest perfoprmance by AFR Midnight Rambler - aside of 24 + hours hard upwind....?


Hard to bet on Loki b/c of her inferred position for quite a few hours.

The Ker is not looking hot, the S38's are nipping at AFR's heals. I know it's only one boat and one team but she should be farther down the course then that.

Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:05 AM



Just posted on Twitter anyone else on the ground heard anything?: Investec loyal being protested by the race committee for outside assistance #rshyr

is this anything to do with crew onboard Loyal [maybe anthony bell?? not sure] asking the news helicopter reporter what sails WOXI was wearing live on last nights news when WO had a slight lead ???

Did the ABC pilot give an answer?

it was a 'can you confirm' sitch - reporter said "confirm' from memory - i was drinking at the time :P

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:06 AM

Loyal being protested by the race committee..! What for?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:08 AM

How silly all about asking the chopper what sail Oats was using

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:10 AM

Tell Bob Oatley to buy a 20 cent fuse for his H.F. and call Loyal up and congratulate them on their victory.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:10 AM

Crew member asked ABC chopper pilot if Wild Oats was flying a tri sail. Just had an interview on Ch 10 news with the commodore

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:15 AM

Crew member asked ABC chopper pilot if Wild Oats was flying a tri sail. Just had an interview on Ch 10 news with the commodore

Asking for assistance isn't an offence under Rule 41 - "receiving" assistance is. If the chopper answered definitively, AND that information was deemed to be of material assistance by the jury I'd suspect they might have a problem. If the radio interchange happened on HF they could argue perhaps that it was freely available to all boats, but maybe not if it was on VHF. If the chopper didn't answer they're possibly in the clear.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:17 AM

Oops,

Just did some more calcs - for IRC, ignore the CYC interpolated method....Loki (with DTG of 56 nm @ 2000 local time) should finish around 0400 @ 7 knots incl current for elapsed of 63 hours and corrected of ~ 96 hours.


This should be difficult to beat.....because Sid would then have to average faster then Loki...around 8.3 knots...


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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:17 AM

Did the ABC pilot give an answer?


According to sailing world, no answer was given! Rule 41 says that you shall not "receive" external assistance. So no assistance was received - protest dismissed!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:19 AM

Asking for assistance isn't an offence under Rule 41 - "receiving" assistance is. If the chopper answered definitively, AND that information was deemed to be of material assistance by the jury I'd suspect they might have a problem.


... and the information has to not be freely available to all other competitors. Considering it was on the radio and then broadcast on TV, it was widely and freely available.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:20 AM


Did the ABC pilot give an answer?


According to sailing world, no answer was given! Rule 41 says that you shall not "receive" external assistance. So no assistance was received - protest dismissed!

Just saw that. Anyone reckon oats had anything to do with it

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:20 AM


Did the ABC pilot give an answer?


According to sailing world, no answer was given! Rule 41 says that you shall not "receive" external assistance. So no assistance was received - protest dismissed!

i thought i heard a 'confirm' - i didn't really think much of it at the time

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:22 AM

ęBut the Cruising Yacht Club has alleged Investec LOYAL asked the crew of an ABC helicopter to tell them what sail Wild Oats XI was using when the yachts were just off Merimbula on NSW's south coast.

Commodore Gary Linacre told a press conference the conversation was recorded and sent out and heard by others.

Investec LOYAL skipper Anthony Bell will face an international jury tomorrow morning and the yacht could be disqualified or face a time penalty.Ľ

From the ABC site. http://www.abc.net.a...-finish/3750226

Bolding mine.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:24 AM

Crew member asked ABC chopper pilot if Wild Oats was flying a tri sail.

If that's true, then it was very stupid move by the Loyal's crew member. If the PC is satisfied that this was "asking for information", that's breach of the RRS Rule 41 - Outside Assistance.
See ISAF Case Nr.100
http://game.finckh.n...ses/case100.htm

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:25 AM

Great to see oats get beaten. Great to see not all yachting is chequebook


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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:27 AM

meanwhile the latest news from the official website
Doozy at the front, oozing just behind
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Posted ImageThe Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race line honours contest is shaping up to be a doozy and Wild Oats XI's co-navigator Ian Burns believes overtaking opportunities may present themselves to Investec Loyal all the way to finish of this epic 628 nautical mile race.


just pathetic

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:29 AM

...and if you check the fine CYC machinery, it has Sid travelling at 13 knots to finish at 0600 tomorrow !

...unfortunately makes about as much sense as the Channel 7 commentary.......

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:32 AM



Alright then...now to the real race, though no doubt the Loyal guys sailed very well.

Any advance..... IRC bets on.... Victoire or Loki (though Loki position inferred from 1800 sked?)


Also, any anarchists with good theory about very modest perfoprmance by AFR Midnight Rambler - aside of 24 + hours hard upwind....?


Hard to bet on Loki b/c of her inferred position for quite a few hours.

The Ker is not looking hot, the S38's are nipping at AFR's heals. I know it's only one boat and one team but she should be farther down the course then that.

Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.



You bring up a good point, I know the first generation TP's are vastly different then 3rd, 5th and so on generation of boats. Looking at they're TCC the boats don't appear on rating to be much slower than the five other 52's.

IRC TCC
Ffreefire 1.342
Strewth 1.348
Ragamuffin 1.351
Cougar II 1.358
Calm 1.360
Scarlet Runner 1.363
Shogun 1.364


I'm just disappointed they didn't have a better showing, maybe next time.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:35 AM

Wild Oats = sore loser
Loyal = fair winner!!!
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:36 AM

Great to see oats get beaten. Great to see not all yachting is chequebook

Yeah cause Loyal was free?
Fuck off Newbie.




And show us your girlfriend's tits. ;)

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:37 AM

Loki 7knm behind Lahana, Living Doll, Jazz & Raggs have the chocklates at this stage .....

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:38 AM

Great to see oats get beaten. Great to see not all yachting is chequebook


You have to be joking ! Loyal is stacked with professionals and has had a shitload spent on it in the last year

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:42 AM




Alright then...now to the real race, though no doubt the Loyal guys sailed very well.

Any advance..... IRC bets on.... Victoire or Loki (though Loki position inferred from 1800 sked?)


Also, any anarchists with good theory about very modest perfoprmance by AFR Midnight Rambler - aside of 24 + hours hard upwind....?


Hard to bet on Loki b/c of her inferred position for quite a few hours.

The Ker is not looking hot, the S38's are nipping at AFR's heals. I know it's only one boat and one team but she should be farther down the course then that.

Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didn't seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.



You bring up a good point, I know the first generation TP's are vastly different then 3rd, 5th and so on generation of boats. Looking at they're TCC the boats don't appear on rating to be much slower than the five other 52's.

IRC TCC
Ffreefire 1.342
Strewth 1.348
Ragamuffin 1.351
Cougar II 1.358
Calm 1.360
Scarlet Runner 1.363
Shogun 1.364


I'm just disappointed they didn't have a better showing, maybe next time.


All of those are pretty old TP52s (except for Scarlet Runner, which is not a TP52 at all). Strewth generally the slowest of the lot.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:43 AM

protest or no protest, there are 2 Kiwi.s with smiles on their faces! Charles St Clair Brown and Ben Buckley who built and campaigned Maximus as she was named originally. Cheers you 2. Now, if the scuttlebut is correct about the basis for the protest, is'nt race tracker outside assistance for all! not to mention wind, tide, water temperature, tide tech etc. Also ABC news could be monitored by any boat with an internet connection, under the original intent of the outside assistance rule that also sounds like it would qualify! Anyway thats my 2 cents worth. Whatever the outcome they were still 3 minutes late and everyone knows it.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:46 AM

It would be just so good if Karl Stefanovich was on the VHF to the chopper and asked the question. Evidence, um neither the guy who asked the question, not the guy who answered it, knew what the question meant. So, how could it be assistance ? Is there a rule about requesting outside hindrance?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:47 AM

I don't care what the protest committee rules,

we all know who won line honors.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:47 AM

Great to see oats get beaten. Great to see not all yachting is chequebook

sometimes the fastest boat doesn't win - it's not always about money

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:49 AM

Loki 7knm behind Lahana, Living Doll, Jazz & Raggs have the chocklates at this stage .....

LOKI will snatch 3rd.
you heard it here ;)

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:50 AM

if they feel they have to give them a penalty

i suggest anything over 2minutes

would stink...

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:55 AM


Crew member asked ABC chopper pilot if Wild Oats was flying a tri sail.

If that's true, then it was very stupid move by the Loyal's crew member. If the PC is satisfied that this was "asking for information", that's breach of the RRS Rule 41 - Outside Assistance.
See ISAF Case Nr.100
http://game.finckh.n...ses/case100.htm

Thanks! But, that case makes it clear that it was the receiving of info that was the breach, not the asking. What is interesting there however is the finding that what happens on a publicly available radio channel was not coveted by the "info available to all yachts' exemption. Could hurt Loyal if that's the case.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:00 AM

But if this was broadcast, the info was available to all competitors......?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:04 AM

But if this was broadcast, the info was available to all competitors......?

yeah - i mean surely the breach will be asking for information won't it ?
the helicopter pilot or TV reporter has nothing to do with the race ???
LOYAL is still the winner here - stupid mistake or no stupid mistake

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:09 AM


But if this was broadcast, the info was available to all competitors......?

yeah - i mean surely the breach will be asking for information won't it ?
the helicopter pilot or TV reporter has nothing to do with the race ???
LOYAL is still the winner here - stupid mistake or no stupid mistake

Read Rule 41. Asking for assistance is not a breach. Receiving assistance is.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:15 AM

Bob and WOW XI always win, just because a boat beats them across the line is nothing

The committee at the CYCA are owned

Bob always wins, that's why these tools sail stink-boats and won't let Multi-hulls race against them..

It's all about cash..

Well done WOW XI another sporting victory you and your bogan swearing crew can be proud of

Another sporting triumph for AUS

:lol:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:21 AM

All the pro's on loyal, all the hundred plus years of sailing experience, one of the epic hobart finishes in history, and some twat gobbed off and asked a question like that? what the fuck was he thinking? Probably was tongue in cheek, but how stupid can you get? I am stoked loyal won it, but it will be shocking to see them lose because of this. The radio man should sleep well tonight... Not.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:23 AM

.....and the official website has yet to update that 2 boats have finished......

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:23 AM

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:28 AM



Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.


I was also surprised that Ichi Ban was so far back.

To be fair to the Asian TPs, they get pwned against a lot of boats on the Asia circuit too! There is comparatively fuck all S2H experience on either and I would be surprised if either of them had any particular eyes on the podium. I say kudos to both for sending the boats that far south (wonder if both will be put up for sale down there though) and adding a bit of extra colour to the international feel of the 88-strong fleet.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:31 AM

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VHF?

So anyone within line of sight could hear?

Rich pricks humor, having a lend of each other while they went past as to why the oats was slow at the time?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:32 AM

Bob and WOW XI always win, just because a boat beats them across the line is nothing

The committee at the CYCA are owned

Bob always wins, that's why these tools sail stink-boats and won't let Multi-hulls race against them..

It's all about cash..

Well done WOW XI another sporting victory you and your bogan swearing crew can be proud of

Another sporting triumph for AUS

:lol:

OH dear, you have issues ......
Edited - you must be a Kiwi ....

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:33 AM




Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.


I was also surprised that Ichi Ban was so far back.

To be fair to the Asian TPs, they get pwned against a lot of boats on the Asia circuit too! There is comparatively fuck all S2H experience on either and I would be surprised if either of them had any particular eyes on the podium. I say kudos to both for sending the boats that far south (wonder if both will be put up for sale down there though) and adding a bit of extra colour to the international feel of the 88-strong fleet.


Not true at all Terror. Strewth had 100+ Syd/Hobs between their crew...and FreeFire only 2.

EDIT: Strewth - 139 SYD/HOBs. That's a fuck load of experience.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:34 AM


Bob and WOW XI always win, just because a boat beats them across the line is nothing

The committee at the CYCA are owned

Bob always wins, that's why these tools sail stink-boats and won't let Multi-hulls race against them..

It's all about cash..

Well done WOW XI another sporting victory you and your bogan swearing crew can be proud of

Another sporting triumph for AUS

:lol:

OH dear, you have issues ......

+1

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

Bob and WOW XI always win, just because a boat beats them across the line is nothing

The committee at the CYCA are owned

Bob always wins, that's why these tools sail stink-boats and won't let Multi-hulls race against them..

It's all about cash..

Well done WOW XI another sporting victory you and your bogan swearing crew can be proud of

Another sporting triumph for AUS

:lol:

it's always Bobs fault - the dude with all the money is always the ass.

seriously...... it's nothing to do with Bob - the fucking clown is part of LOYAL's crew not WO

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:37 AM

Was watching the start to this race on TV with my kids - language used and attitude shown by the skipper of WO did leave a fair bit to be desired.

Was the loss at the finish a bit of this coming around?

In the PR stakes I like what Loyal is doing - from the celebs on board to the charity it is raising funds for - hope the protest does not go against them.

finally disappointed in channel 7 this year - fairly pathetic coverage...





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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:38 AM

The description in the protest form does not include any breech of the rule. So protest rejected due to incorrect form?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:39 AM





Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.


I was also surprised that Ichi Ban was so far back.

To be fair to the Asian TPs, they get pwned against a lot of boats on the Asia circuit too! There is comparatively fuck all S2H experience on either and I would be surprised if either of them had any particular eyes on the podium. I say kudos to both for sending the boats that far south (wonder if both will be put up for sale down there though) and adding a bit of extra colour to the international feel of the 88-strong fleet.


Not true at all Terror. Strewth had 100+ Syd/Hobs between their crew...and FreeFire only 2.

EDIT: Strewth - 139 SYD/HOBs. That's a fuck load of experience.


Zoiks- I thought I read that FF was 2 (BooBoo being one of them) and Strewth was 4. I sit corrected. They did get pwned a lot on the circuit though, when asked to describe it one of the key members of the crew gave one word 'dog'........

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:39 AM

Certainly gonna put off any other Maxi's of other OS competitors having a go, when the committee is owned and licking Bobs ass

"Soliciting information" for the whole fleet to hear? Does any crew of any boat have Smartphones with access to SA with the reports on here from Anarchists on cliffs as the boats went up the Derwent?????? Of course they did? FFS

Connecting to the internet would be the same case as soliciting

As said the CYCA is owned by BOB and fuck all to do with sport or sportsmanship

The swearing bogans on WOW XI were handed their asses on a plate and are now whining to their CYCA mates

FUCKING STINK BOAT TOOLS

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:40 AM

Was watching the start to this race on TV with my kids - language used and attitude shown by the skipper of WO did leave a fair bit to be desired.

Was the loss at the finish a bit of this coming around?

In the PR stakes I like what Loyal is doing - from the celebs on board to the charity it is raising funds for - hope the protest does not go against them.

finally disappointed in channel 7 this year - fairly pathetic coverage...


Get real.

It's a racing yacht. There's tons of foul language.

Microphones just make for "real reality TV".

Get the f**k over it. Good for your kids to learn a little colour anyway newb.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:41 AM






Ichi Bum was kind of doggy in the first half of the race but is looking better.

I know this may ruffle some feathers but I'm less than impressed with the Asian TP's performance. Strewth has been at the back of the pack most of the way down, choosing to go far East of the rumline didnít seem to help. And Ffreefire 52 was even farther back inshore racing among IRC 2 before she dropped out.


Have you compared vintage of the HK TPs versus the others? Ffreefire was the first TP built and Strewth (ex-Trader) was not that long after.


I was also surprised that Ichi Ban was so far back.

To be fair to the Asian TPs, they get pwned against a lot of boats on the Asia circuit too! There is comparatively fuck all S2H experience on either and I would be surprised if either of them had any particular eyes on the podium. I say kudos to both for sending the boats that far south (wonder if both will be put up for sale down there though) and adding a bit of extra colour to the international feel of the 88-strong fleet.


Not true at all Terror. Strewth had 100+ Syd/Hobs between their crew...and FreeFire only 2.

EDIT: Strewth - 139 SYD/HOBs. That's a fuck load of experience.


Zoiks- I thought I read that FF was 2 (BooBoo being one of them) and Strewth was 4. I sit corrected. They did get pwned a lot on the circuit though, when asked to describe it one of the key members of the crew gave one word 'dog'........


EDIT: BooBoo 1 R Bindell 1 and Rich Killip 1 on FreeFire. Go figure.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:44 AM

Hey guys. Am still in Hobart so will try to head down to the docks to hear the low down first thing in the morning and let you all know

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:45 AM

I've watched with interest this race, closely at the start as some will know. I'll wait with interest for the outcome of the protest on the Line Honours winner.

In the meantime, who's going to win the race on time?

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:46 AM

Hey guys. Am still in Hobart so will try to head down to the docks to hear the low down first thing in the morning and let you all know

Cheers Benno, was good to hear your live up dates.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:47 AM

I've watched with interest this race, closely at the start as some will know. I'll wait with interest for the outcome of the protest on the Line Honours winner.

In the meantime, who's going to win the race on time?


The real sailboat race, thanks for bringing us back to where we should be

Jazz will win

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:47 AM


Was watching the start to this race on TV with my kids - language used and attitude shown by the skipper of WO did leave a fair bit to be desired.

Was the loss at the finish a bit of this coming around?

In the PR stakes I like what Loyal is doing - from the celebs on board to the charity it is raising funds for - hope the protest does not go against them.

finally disappointed in channel 7 this year - fairly pathetic coverage...


Get real.

It's a racing yacht. There's tons of foul language.

Microphones just make for "real reality TV".

Get the f**k over it. Good for your kids to learn a little colour anyway newb.



Been sailing since I was four and don't need to resort to foul language to put you down - happy to take you on on the water anytime

Have crewed on boats with and without foul language, and with and without a foul attitude

In my experience it is the latter that generally get the results, and I for one have come to prefer them

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:48 AM

Certainly gonna put off any other Maxi's of other OS competitors having a go, when the committee is owned and licking Bobs ass

"Soliciting information" for the whole fleet to hear? Does any crew of any boat have Smartphones with access to SA with the reports on here from Anarchists on cliffs as the boats went up the Derwent?????? Of course they did? FFS

Connecting to the internet would be the same case as soliciting

As said the CYCA is owned by BOB and fuck all to do with sport or sportsmanship

The swearing bogans on WOW XI were handed their asses on a plate and are now whining to their CYCA mates

FUCKING STINK BOAT TOOLS

Idiot, please migrate to Airlie where the other dinosours are ...

Meanwhile rounding the one of the final bends Lahana 7knm to Loki then 14knm to Hugo, seems that Raggs has opened a lead on Calm in the last half hour ....

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:48 AM

I like Jazz, Ragamuffin, or Loki.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:49 AM

Did the chopper answer the question, your honour? This is about the constitution, it's about mabo, it's about the vibe, your honour...

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:50 AM

Anyone got a link to the alleged audio?
Edit. Found it
http://www.abc.net.a...6?section=sport

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:53 AM


Certainly gonna put off any other Maxi's of other OS competitors having a go, when the committee is owned and licking Bobs ass

"Soliciting information" for the whole fleet to hear? Does any crew of any boat have Smartphones with access to SA with the reports on here from Anarchists on cliffs as the boats went up the Derwent?????? Of course they did? FFS

Connecting to the internet would be the same case as soliciting

As said the CYCA is owned by BOB and fuck all to do with sport or sportsmanship

The swearing bogans on WOW XI were handed their asses on a plate and are now whining to their CYCA mates

FUCKING STINK BOAT TOOLS

Idiot, please migrate to Airlie where the other dinosours are ...

Meanwhile rounding the one of the final bends Lahana 7knm to Loki then 14knm to Hugo, seems that Raggs has opened a lead on Calm in the last half hour ....


Sore ASS? :lol:

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:54 AM


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VHF?

So anyone within line of sight could hear?

Rich pricks humor, having a lend of each other while they went past as to why the oats was slow at the time?

That's very surprising. This is a race committee protest ostensibly drafted by an expert yet it mistakenly assesses soliciting info as a breach of 41, and it does not state that any response was given to Loyal and by what means the communication ocurred, so it can't be established that any assistance was given - key facts are missing from the protest form. It will all need to
come out in a hearing.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:56 AM



Certainly gonna put off any other Maxi's of other OS competitors having a go, when the committee is owned and licking Bobs ass

"Soliciting information" for the whole fleet to hear? Does any crew of any boat have Smartphones with access to SA with the reports on here from Anarchists on cliffs as the boats went up the Derwent?????? Of course they did? FFS

Connecting to the internet would be the same case as soliciting

As said the CYCA is owned by BOB and fuck all to do with sport or sportsmanship

The swearing bogans on WOW XI were handed their asses on a plate and are now whining to their CYCA mates

FUCKING STINK BOAT TOOLS

Idiot, please migrate to Airlie where the other dinosours are ...

Meanwhile rounding the one of the final bends Lahana 7knm to Loki then 14knm to Hugo, seems that Raggs has opened a lead on Calm in the last half hour ....


Sore ASS? :lol:

Oh shit your already in the country, I sware I'll call Immigration ..... :D

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:56 AM

Thanks to Sail-World
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Wonder how many phone calls Tim Cox is receiving? :lol:




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