Thanks Laurent, some of Bernards comments sound a bit ominous. Sounds like JK designed a boat and forgot that a human being has to sail it.
A bit like the previous one no? Which even a guy like alex thomson refused to take around the world...
Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:40 AM
Thanks Laurent, some of Bernards comments sound a bit ominous. Sounds like JK designed a boat and forgot that a human being has to sail it.
Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:18 PM
That one was just modified by JK, not a full design I believe.
Thanks Laurent, some of Bernards comments sound a bit ominous. Sounds like JK designed a boat and forgot that a human being has to sail it.
A bit like the previous one no? Which even a guy like alex thomson refused to take around the world...
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:00 AM
Hugo Boss 1 was a Finot (?) ex. Sill. Sank during the 5 Oceans.
Hugo Boss 2 was the Finot designed boat that Alex had for the last VG. Now Energa for Gutek
Hugo Boss 3 was the ex.Pindar that Alex put the 2 extreme cuddies and the tall rig on. I think he did part of a TJV and then the Fastnet on it. I think it is doing HB corporate work in Asia
Hugo Bosss 4 was Estrella Damm (BWR), then BT (VG), then Veolia. Farr design.
Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:20 PM
Yup, Clean's right. My French sucks, Clean and Co. will have to translate for me.
Super excited about attending the Vendee start and working with Clean and everyone else on providing the best coverage that we possibly can!
Stay tuned to the forums and the front page from the end of October through the start on November 10!!
Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:00 PM
We could make life easier and make this the 'official' thread......, for a start at least?
Yup, Clean's right. My French sucks, Clean and Co. will have to translate for me.
Super excited about attending the Vendee start and working with Clean and everyone else on providing the best coverage that we possibly can!
Stay tuned to the forums and the front page from the end of October through the start on November 10!!
Ronnie, don't forget to give us a head's up here on this thread if you write another Front Page article. I don't check the FP every day like I do the forums.
Despite all the chest thumping from the SA management about how super connected SA is with social media etc. , the FP is still stuck firmly in 1998: no permalinks for articles, no searchable archive of articles, no RSS feed.
Posted 19 October 2012 - 10:14 PM
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Posted 20 October 2012 - 02:35 PM
Despite all the chest thumping from the SA management about how super connected SA is with social media etc. , the FP is still stuck firmly in 1998: no permalinks for articles, no searchable archive of articles, no RSS feed.
Posted 20 October 2012 - 03:42 PM
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:14 AM
Here is an opinion: the website (http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/) sucks.
I have not paid a bit attention to this race, but I when I saw the pic on the front page, I thought maybe I'd follow it. When I went to the website, I found it hard to find even the most basic information.
Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:50 PM
Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:01 PM
got to agree, seen a lot worse sites.
Here is an opinion: the website (http://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/) sucks.
I have not paid a bit attention to this race, but I when I saw the pic on the front page, I thought maybe I'd follow it. When I went to the website, I found it hard to find even the most basic information.
What sort of info were you looking for- I find it a bit busy and the English is a bit poor, but other than that it's not too bad.
Posted 21 October 2012 - 11:35 PM
Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:43 AM
Either way it is a bloody good field.
I think this will be a great race, but we must admit that the absences of mich and loick are important. They are the two strongest, their absences tells a lot. This is not figaro, where you expect winners to go further. this is the pinnacle of the sport. The best one should be here.But yes i agree, the field is stacked and should be extremely competitive. Compiling a lot of info before I head over there with Clean and all I can say is WOW!!!! This is going to be an incredible race. I'm counting about 12 boats that have a shot at winning; imagine that, 60% of the fleet could literally win the race. Incredible!
So who are your favorites?
C.
Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:03 PM
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:31 PM
I knew I'd seen a really bad site somewhere, current Vendee is still way ahead of that one.Don't agree with the criticism of the site, remember the TJV site? Christ that thing was a mess, at least we don't have to deal with that again
Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:33 PM
Could go with the first and last on the list... Not too sure about the middle pick of that bunch.I've got 3 on my list : Marco Guillemot (Safran) Alex Thomson (Hugo Boss) and Kito de Pavant (Groupe Bel). All these guys have had great programs going for their sponsors and have been trying hard for a long time. They all deserve to do well.
Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:12 PM
Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:37 PM
Last time there were 33 entered and I think 31 actually started. That sound right Potter? Are you gonna be in town working?
Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:52 PM
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:20 PM
writeup in Daily Sail, with the official roster
http://www.thedailys...ppers-announced
Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:17 AM
Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:07 AM
Sam has Ryan's old boat. Lombard design, ex Neutrogena ex Veolia Environnement ex Sill. Smallest bulb in the fleet (grandfathered tungsten IIRC but Sam has modified or put a new one on), wing mast, very easy boat to push very hard and very well-sorted out, but lacking a lot of power.
Sound right nic?
Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:27 AM
Chart below is good but obviously doesn't capture all the mods done to the boats over the years. Wow, Gutek in a 1991 boat, almost as old as mine!
Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:26 AM
Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:49 PM
Gutek in the end will sail with former Hugo Boss 2, a Finot-Conq built in 2007 for the 2008 Vendee globe. It is the double cockpit layout boat, on which Alex likes keel walking
Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:01 PM
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:10 PM
Maybe Alex can finally finish the race, now that Gutek can take over the role of offical Mad Dog Boatbreaker....
Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:13 PM
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Does the Vendee globe still popular in France ? They are scheduling 3 additional high speed trains for the VG start November 9&10.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 05:47 AM
Does the Vendee globe still popular in France ? They are scheduling 3 additional high speed trains for the VG start November 9&10.
Lots of folk (and lots school kids) were walking around Monday evening. Full pontoons, so I would say it is. Loads of ribs & 30ft motorboats. Driving in to les Sables there was a fair amount of ads, plus a giant PRB site. I suspect popularity is SW France, but then so is Rugby. Just pleased they still love ocean racing. My (very kind) wife enjoyed it too.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:52 PM
Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:26 PM
For history of 60 Imoca, minis, mini ton etc
http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/
Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:53 PM
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and Louis Burton (very nice guy, managed his small sponsor Bureau Vallee to make the big jumb from Class 40 to IMOCA just in the spirit of adventure, which is only normal as one of Louis' ancestors was the great English explorer Richard Francis Burton, first non muslin to travel in disguise to Mecca and discovered the African Great Lakes while looking for the source of the Nile!)
Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:26 PM
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:49 AM
Joshua is pretty badass, saw her last year. We'll see if we can do a little profile/walkthrough of both boats.
Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:59 PM
.....So who are your favourites? Who will win? What are the gossips?....
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:08 PM
With less than 2 weeks to start, I guess the field is pretty clear,
I have some clear favorites
Vincent Riou : knows the race, already won it, great boat designed specifically for this race, hardcore professional of solo sailing
Jean Le Cam : Same league as Riou, a little bit older, more old fashion, intuitive kind of guy. His boat is not the most recent but is very good judging by the last run by Peyron, and in the Barcelona under the name Renault ZE. Time for him to take is revenge after 2004.
Jean Pierre Dick : Great boat, great experience with the boat, confidence, his weak points are that he is better on duo sailing than alone, tends to push the boat to far. More a competitor than an old school sailor.
Armel Le Cleach' : New generation of very sofisticated solo sailors, very gritty and obstinate, learned quite a lot since 08, has a great boat, breat tactician, sometimes a little bit to conservative
Mike Golding : Obviously very good and experimented sailor, had a lot of bad luck but always among leaders, proven boat.
Bernard Stamm : Talended sailor, very specific boat, can make it
Outsiders :
Marc Guillemot : very nifty boat, good skills, better confidence since he won some races, maybe not enough of a fighter in the pack.
François Gabart : Young and talended, great boat, but I don't really like his style. Too technical and "clean" to me.
Alex Thomson : Skilled, fast, but will most likely break his boat once again
Dominique Wavre : Very careful, well organised sailor, good and reliable boat, may find his way if the weather is very bad there are a lot of dismasting
Samantha Davies : Not a very good boat but a great sailor, may target the podium
Posted 30 October 2012 - 02:17 AM
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 07:46 AM
"When you walk into the tent, the place is absolutely massive" - well, what does that mean, exactly? Wasn't it massive before walking into the tent? Did you think it might be virtually massive? And is the inside of the tent really massive at all, I mean, what's it's mass, really? I'm thinking it's nearly all air.
So I'm at 1:05 of this "best coverage ever", almost 1/3 through, and it's hasn't said a god damned thing yet. I've gagged on the music and the video - why would I watch any more?
How about if you dump the hyperbole and actually do some ... ummm ... reporting?
Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:29 AM
How about if you dump the hyperbole and actually do some ... ummm ... reporting?
Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:56 AM
How about if you dump the hyperbole and actually do some ... ummm ... reporting?
Nope. It's all hyperbole, all the time, but only because we want to piss Moonduster off.
Seriously dude - this coverage is specifically NOT for you. Please don't waste any more of your time on it.
For the rest of you, thanks for watching and please be sure to let us know if you have anything specific you'd like us to try to chase down.
Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:15 PM
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:49 PM
MSafiri,
I spoke with Sir Robin on Suhaili yesterday. We should get an interview and boat tour/ photo opportunities. He was very pleasant to meet with. Checked out Alessandro's Mini and get this, we may be helping Alessandro prep Team Plastique for half a day, filming it, writing about it, etc.
Yes we will be on water at start
cheers,
ronnie
if you did not see, there is an article on front page called "Vendee Virgin" and there is a photo i took of Alessandro's Mini "Findomestic Banca" and a bit of description about it
Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:19 PM
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:45 PM
Clean and Ronnie,
If you can, please take up-close pictures of the rigging details and intricate build details. There was an excellent link a couple years ago with pics like that. Judging by the number of times it pops up in other threads, I doubt I'm the only one fascinated with the gear they are using.
Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:00 PM
From the website of François Chevalier, drawings of the last 6 winners of the Vendee Glode.
Hélas en Français.
http://chevaliertagl...queurs-des.html
Posted 31 October 2012 - 05:10 PM
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:48 PM
great video http://www.thedailys...ide-tour-part-1
Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:52 PM
Docks and entire race village will be CLOSED tomorrow thanks to forecasts for winds to 90 km/h. Welcome to Biscay...
Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:01 PM
From the website of François Chevalier, drawings of the last 6 winners of the Vendee Glode.
Hélas en Français.
http://chevaliertagl...queurs-des.html
Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:26 AM
great video http://www.thedailys...ide-tour-part-1
Yup. All four (so far) are great stuff. 40 (again, so far) mins of Alex T and Mike G walking the docks and talking about the boats. More than enough to justify my subscription for a year.
Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:28 AM
Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:04 AM
How about if you dump the hyperbole and actually do some ... ummm ... reporting?
Nope. It's all hyperbole, all the time, but only because we want to piss Moonduster off.
Seriously dude - this coverage is specifically NOT for you. Please don't waste any more of your time on it.
For the rest of you, thanks for watching and please be sure to let us know if you have anything specific you'd like us to try to chase down.
Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:05 AM
great video http://www.thedailys...ide-tour-part-1
Yup. All four (so far) are great stuff. 40 (again, so far) mins of Alex T and Mike G walking the docks and talking about the boats. More than enough to justify my subscription for a year.
How much does that cost?
Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:29 AM
How about if you dump the hyperbole and actually do some ... ummm ... reporting?
Nope. It's all hyperbole, all the time, but only because we want to piss Moonduster off.
Seriously dude - this coverage is specifically NOT for you. Please don't waste any more of your time on it.
For the rest of you, thanks for watching and please be sure to let us know if you have anything specific you'd like us to try to chase down.
Clean and Ronnie - thanks for the stuff so far, and looking forward to the rest of it.
One thing I would love is a complete film of the entire sequence for a gybe, a tack, a spinnaker hoist, peel and douse - or just one of the list. Just to get a proper understanding of how the hell they do that. Not too much to ask?
It is easy enough to do these manoeuvres singlehanded on a 20 or 30 fter in calm winds and flat water - but on a 60 fter with water ballast and a canting keel in big winds and any sort of sea is a whole different ball game.
This is the best race to follow I think - have fun while you are there.
Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:50 AM
Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:17 AM
Here's a really good animation of what has to go on below decks when tacking or jibing and IMOCA....
Here's a really good animation of what has to go on below decks when tacking or jibing and IMOCA....
no link!?
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