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#3801 Varan

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 02:52 AM

Thanks Popo and Estar, your work has made all the difference to this thread.

Popo, I hope somebody hires you for your translating skills.

Yes, Thanks y'all. Best thread yet.

#3802 ArchimeDesign.com

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

http://www.dailymoti...lessandro_sport

103 days of smiling

#3803 TheDragon

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

http://www.dailymoti...lessandro_sport

103 days of smiling


He's so happy to be on a boat 3X longer than the last time around, with 9X interior volume, and an upright pole.

Thanks Popo and Estar, it's been a great "ride". Only sorry for all those who had to drop out, especially Sam. Alexandro is great, but Sam is also lovely.

#3804 DtM

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:21 PM

He is only just over 100 miles from the finish.

#3805 Presuming Ed

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:49 AM

http://www.yachtingw...te-solo-designs

Vendée organisers debate solo designs

There is a strong push for the IMOCA class to get its house in order by the Vendée Globe management. They know that, ultimately, they hold the cards. This is the pinnacle race for these boats and the focus of sponsorship.

To help make up their mind independently of what the current crop of skippers think, the Vendée Race management company, SEM Vendée, commissioned a report by former race winner Alain Gautier. Gautier has submitted his findings and recommendations, and a decision about the boats will be made within weeks.

"I asked Alain to give me a report on the evolution process of the boats and I gave him three objectives to look at," Bruno Retailleau, president of the race, told me. "One, the advantages and disadvantages of a one-design. Two, is that in accordance with the spirit of the race? And three, can the race be safer in one-design?"

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The options for a one-design keel and maybe also a change to the mast rule is soon to be discussed by skippers and voted on at the class AGM. It's been mooted before, and defeated by only a handful of votes, but this year the pressure is really on to reach a consensus for more sweeping change.



#3806 hard aground

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

Welcome to the final day of the 2012-13 Vendee Globe. What a great 4 month ride. Finish strong Alessandro.
Big thanks to Estar and popo for their work here too.

#3807 ArchimeDesign.com

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

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the live arrival of that smiling Franco-Italian

#3808 hard aground

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

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Shouldn't the guy on a boat named "Team Plastique" be using a tiller made of some sort of plastic instead of carbon fibre? :lol: :lol:

#3809 forss

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

Well done! Winner of fixed keel race!

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

My thanks to all the contributors who made this thread so enlightening & an extra special thanks to Estar & Popo who made it a must follow!

#3811 Estar

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:05 PM

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Glad to see A finish with a smile. He's a terrific guy and seaman.

Interesting harness.

I hope they don't go OD. I understand the temptation, but it would not be that same race. And this was a terrific race.

#3812 Speng

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

http://www.yachtingw...te-solo-designs

Vendée organisers debate solo designs

There is a strong push for the IMOCA class to get its house in order by the Vendée Globe management. They know that, ultimately, they hold the cards. This is the pinnacle race for these boats and the focus of sponsorship.

To help make up their mind independently of what the current crop of skippers think, the Vendée Race management company, SEM Vendée, commissioned a report by former race winner Alain Gautier. Gautier has submitted his findings and recommendations, and a decision about the boats will be made within weeks.

"I asked Alain to give me a report on the evolution process of the boats and I gave him three objectives to look at," Bruno Retailleau, president of the race, told me. "One, the advantages and disadvantages of a one-design. Two, is that in accordance with the spirit of the race? And three, can the race be safer in one-design?"

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The options for a one-design keel and maybe also a change to the mast rule is soon to be discussed by skippers and voted on at the class AGM. It's been mooted before, and defeated by only a handful of votes, but this year the pressure is really on to reach a consensus for more sweeping change.


I like this rebuttal to this article:

In what way has the SolOceans proved reliable. It did one long distance offshore single-handed and failed to complete the voyage due to numerous problems...not exactly reliable.

Congratulations to Alessandro. Interesting to note that he is thinking about doing the TJV so maybe he's sticking with IMOCA. Maybe he likes having a boat where he can take more than 5 steps.

I think the actions of Retailleau show up a problem in the IMOCA world - is the class run by the sailors (ostensibly it is) or by the race organizers? Of course the VG is different as it's the one race where sailors will always show up so they have some leverage but I'm really hoping the class remains a prototype class and I think a lot of people have deluded themselves into thinking the OD will make the boats more reliable or cost effective.

#3813 Trickypig

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:32 PM

Merci Popo pour une grande perspicacité dans le merveilleux monde de la voile française ... and sorry if these translations are poor!

Thanks Estar for routing advice. I'm wondering if any competitors had a look in on this thread!!

#3814 Haji

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:27 AM

Well done! Winner of fixed keel race!


Indeed!
:D

#3815 Big Show

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

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Shouldn't the guy on a boat named "Team Plastique" be using a tiller made of some sort of plastic instead of carbon fibre? :lol: :lol:


Grande lavoro Alessandro!

An always smiling class act. A true winner.

#3816 MSafiri

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

Alessandro presentes the pinacle of smiling, non stop, via the three caps, unassisted, -- > Smiling Around the World...one of the best characters of this race, hope to see him back. Well done!

#3817 Sailbydate

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:44 AM

Excellent race all round. Nice touch to see Alessandro's old 6.5 Findomestic Banca at Les Sables d'Olonne to escort him up the canal. Another VG hereo in my book.

#3818 Icedtea

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

What a race it was!!! Anyone know where boats are off to now? Especially those that are leaving the class like JPD...

#3819 tama_manu

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:17 PM


Well done! Winner of fixed keel race!


Indeed!
:D

It is interesting that Alessandro's last place time would have won him the 1996-97 race, and of course the two before that. He sailed a good course, and he did slightly better the 105 day time his boat did with other sailors in its last two Vendees. It is also quite a statement about the innovations on these boats to be so much faster now (so long as the keel stays on). The relatively small 26 day gap between first and last this time really highlights the competitiveness of the fleet. Great adventure.

#3820 forss

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:42 AM

Very interesting daggerboards. Haven't noticed those daggerboard tips before.

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Photo from Bernard Stamm's facebook

#3821 Icedtea

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

Very interesting daggerboards. Haven't noticed those daggerboard tips before.

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Photo from Bernard Stamm's facebook


Sure they aren't the top of the boards?
Makes sense to me as they've a different finish on them to the rest of the boards

#3822 forss

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:47 PM

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Visible here also. Definitely bottom of the board.

#3823 STYACHT

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:47 PM

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Visible here also. Definitely bottom of the board.

A detail very similar to the Groupama VO70 *race* board tips, which were on display at METS2012. IIRC Martin Fischer designed the appendages.

#3824 Haji

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

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Visible here also. Definitely bottom of the board.


What a boat....drool....

#3825 Large Thomas

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:52 PM

Twice around is enough for me.


Sure, Haji?

#3826 Haji

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

Twice around is enough for me.


Sure, Haji?


Yep, I'm sure. Not that I don't think about it...but then I wake up. And I like what I'm doing now....

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#3827 ctutmark

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 05:46 AM

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From Nikki Curwen's Facebook page- Virbac Paprec where the keel was

#3828 Tanton Yacht Design

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 07:03 AM

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Cheminees Poujoulat. Well almost...

#3829 BrianY

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:58 PM

Yeah...FO Newb. Anyway, has there been any discussion on the state of the sails at the end of the race? In one recent edition de-lamination was happening pretty regularly, but I read nothing this go-around. How about the HB's Doyles? Did they stand up better than other competitors?

#3830 Speng

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

Other than Tanguy having some mainsail tears the only sail issues IIRC were guys who dropped big forwards in the drink, so not a bad showing for the sailmakers. I think Francois said his rags were ready to go again.

#3831 Left Hook

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:15 AM

Be interesting to hear how the 3di sails worked out with the extreme conditions.

#3832 Estar

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

With 3di, a bunch of blown up lashings and tack fittings (may have cost ALC the race) and some rips (mostly along leaches). Not perfect, but no catastrophic failures, so better than 3dl, but that had to be the least durable cloth ever made.

The Doyle sails also seem to have stood up extremely well, and AT has a history of driving hard . . . Although perhaps a little less this edition.

Overall a better race for the sail makers than previous.

#3833 STYACHT

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 08:35 AM

With 3di, a bunch of blown up lashings and tack fittings (may have cost ALC the race) and some rips (mostly along leaches). Not perfect, but no catastrophic failures, so better than 3dl, but that had to be the least durable cloth ever made.

The Doyle sails also seem to have stood up extremely well, and AT has a history of driving hard . . . Although perhaps a little less this edition.

Overall a better race for the sail makers than previous.


Also for rig makers, both in terms of masts and standing rigging. Sam was unfortunate, and the fleet got out of shallow water with relatively benign conditions at the start, but longer term the rigs held up despite the pace.

#3834 Tanton Yacht Design

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:23 PM

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And now Macif, the winner of the last Vendee Globe Race.



#3835 Tanton Yacht Design

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:40 AM

Macif. Another view.

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