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#1 El Mariachi

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:05 AM

Gawd dammit, for the LAST FUKING TIME, wear your freakin' life vest!..... :angry:




CHANNEL ISLANDS (CBS) — Four bodies have been found near an overturned fishing boat off the coast of the Channel Islands, according to authorities.

The four men took the boat out Saturday and failed to return to dock.

When family members of the men reported them missing Sunday morning, the Coast Guard initiated a search using two small boats. They were aided in the search by a Santa Barbara Sheriff’s Department helicopter and Santa Cruz Island park rangers.

The boat didn’t have any visible signs that would indicate it crashed into anything, said officials.

The bodies were discovered by the chopper. Authorities said that when they were able to get to the location by boat, one of the four bodies either floated away or sank. Three bodies have been recovered and officials say they will return to the area tomorrow to look for the fourth victim.

Apparently none of the victims was wearing a life vest, said authorities.

Petty Officer Adam Eggers told the Ventura County Star that while the day was relatively clear and sunny, some choppy waves were reported.

Cause of the accident remains under investigation.


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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:13 AM

Betcha the boat builder gets sued...and engine manufacturer, and marina owner, and I betcha there is a huge settlement.



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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:14 AM

Betcha the boat builder gets sued...and engine manufacturer, and marina owner, and I betcha there is a huge settlement.



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This is Kalifornia, the only f'ng state in the Union where you can sue yourself, get a judgement.....and eventually collect.....

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

Anyone know what type of boat it was? Other than a powerboat that is.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:04 PM

Whats the water temps there? Even with a pfd if you can't get out of the water hypothermia wastes you pretty fast.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 04:06 PM


Betcha the boat builder gets sued...and engine manufacturer, and marina owner, and I betcha there is a huge settlement.



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This is Kalifornia, the only f'ng state in the Union where you can sue yourself, get a judgement.....and eventually collect.....


Actually you can do that in any state.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

Whats the water temps there? Even with a pfd if you can't get out of the water hypothermia wastes you pretty fast.


52.2F + or -

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:15 PM

"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:56 PM

"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:00 PM


"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....


They come in several models. The early ones had an essentially open transom set up. I could see a potential scenario for cockpit flooding from a passing boat wake for the early models. Pure speculation though.

No doubt, these are very popular sport fishing boats.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:02 PM


"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....


I've taken one out into the Gulf Stream off Va Beach in 3-5' seas - if somethin' went south, I doubt it was the boat's fault.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:03 PM

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Ventura County Star. Brrrrrr.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

Looks like the top fell off?



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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:55 PM

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Ventura County Star. Brrrrrr.


looks like someone was smoking while something was leaking Posted Image

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 08:59 PM

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Ventura County Star. Brrrrrr.


Hard to believe that boat model is the same as this! I wonder how much went missing during salvage tow.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 09:53 PM

Hard to believe that boat model is the same as this!



Agreed..... something very "off" in this story. That broken hull does not look like the offshore/voyager models. GW also makes smaller, open cockpit, bow-rider style hulls.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 09:55 PM

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


Saturday was very mild...something doesn't add up.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:07 PM

how far out of the shipping lanes was it found?? Just askin.... :blink:

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:32 PM

how far out of the shipping lanes was it found?? Just askin....


actually, as i understand it, most of the coast wise shipping goes outside the channel islands these days

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:56 PM


"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....



Depends....

http://www.yachtsurv...radyWhite24.htm

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:13 PM



"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....



Depends....

http://www.yachtsurv...radyWhite24.htm



Wowch....

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:52 PM




"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....



Depends....

http://www.yachtsurv...radyWhite24.htm



Wowch....


No kidding, that reviews a death sentence for the boat.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:58 PM

Don't rush to judgement yet,
http://www.yachtsurv.../GW24Voyage.htm

#24 El Mariachi

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 12:40 AM

Don't rush to judgement yet,
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/GW24Voyage.htm


Yeah, well my sister thought she'd be a smart consumer and waited 'til Year 3 before finally buying her first Le Car...... :P

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 12:59 AM

hey, i drove my father's renault 5 alot, it was quick, good handling car that didn't age well.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:00 AM

I'm with the Woody on this one: looks like the deck was blown off...

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:25 AM


That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


Saturday was very mild...something doesn't add up.


I did a race Sat. out around Gilda or Grace (always get them mixed up) and Gina. Out at the rigs we saw 20 knots and 4-5' seas. Choppy sure. A problem? Nope.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:31 AM



That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


Saturday was very mild...something doesn't add up.


I did a race Sat. out around Gilda or Grace (always get them mixed up) and Gina. Out at the rigs we saw 20 knots and 4-5' seas. Choppy sure. A problem? Nope.



What kind of boat were ya driving? Five foot chop on a fifty foot sailboat is merely a ripple. Five foot chop on a 24' fishing boat? Poco diferente...

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:35 AM


"The four men launched from Channel Islands Harbor Saturday morning in a 24-foot Grady White boat and were expected to return from their fishing trip Saturday night,"


"Three bodies were discovered by a Coast Guard helicopter crew near Santa Cruz Island's Platts Harbor Sunday, said Lt. George Kolumbic of the San Pedro- based U.S. Coast Guard base"



http://www.contracos...nia/ci_20155234

That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


And unless something has changed in the past 5 years or so, Grady's are supposedly (at least according to my uber fishing nut friends) extremely well built and extremely well designed.....



Couple of years ago a buddy of mine was diving off the one of the islands out there with two other friends when his wallet and shoes went sinking past him at 30ft. Their Grady White and sunk and rolled. A broken hose flooded the hull while they were on the bottom. It happens

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 02:38 AM

Sometimes it just don't take much, does it U2O.....

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 04:01 AM

Talking with locals here in CI, the smaller Grady's, when they have (been swamped by a wave) taken on a bit of water, become unstable and prone to rolling over.

I think the designer and builder are off the hook in terms of liability because the boat is a 24' and was past Fry's anchorage on the front side of Santa Cruz.

Depending on the weather forecast and the skippers experience, a 24' in the SB Channel can be seen as a bit small.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 01:46 PM

Saturday was definitely a mild day..at SBYC we sat on the water for hours hoping to do some racing but the wind never materialized. The mid channel buoy had readings of 3.7 knots. So things don't really add up here.

Oddly enough on Sunday another 4 people were in trouble out there in some sort of dinghy. They were spotted by a Coast Guard helo on routine mission. CG dropped a man in the water, went and refueled then rescued all of them. There was definitely some breeze on Sunday, but I haven't heard the scoop on this deal.

Santa Barbara channel can be unpredictable, not always a good place for a leisurely cruise in a small boat.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:21 PM

If the engine had blown up there would be flash burns clearly visible.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

If the engine had blown up there would be flash burns clearly visible.

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Floating meth lab?.....

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 05:49 PM

Depending on the weather forecast and the skippers experience, a 24' in the SB Channel can be seen as a bit small.


That's for god damn sure! There are plenty of people that have gotten caught in that channel with their pants around their ankles.

I was on a Schock 35 Saturday. Certainly not as tipsy as a skittish 24' stink boat.

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 11:27 PM

I've now been hearing it was not a Grady White. If I hear more, I'll let you know.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:57 AM

SOMEthing ripped that deck off. I'm with the smoking-with-a-bilge-full-of-fumes school of thought.

The age of the boat is in line with the aluminum fuel tanks wearing out. I spend a lot of time on my club's mark-set boat which looks identical to that Grady White Offshore 24. 20 years the slight movements in the glassed-over fir fuel tank chocks caused the fuel tank to chafe through at the mounting chocks. The leak was pretty slow because the chocks were preventing the gas from gushing out. When the tank was pulled out you could easily stick your thumb in the hole.

Why did we pull the tanks?

The raw gas smell.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:32 AM

SOMEthing ripped that deck off. I'm with the smoking-with-a-bilge-full-of-fumes school of thought.


We have recently de-commissioned several boats for shipping to the Seattle area. Most of them require the top part of the fly bridge or cabin top to be removed.

I am taken back by how many screws and a bit of sealant hold the upper part of a boat on. I'm beginning to think that gravity has much to do with holding fly-bridge power boats together.

They were never meant to be upside down. I think being able to ship them around the world has something to do with it and the idiots that put them together at their destination.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:51 AM



Betcha the boat builder gets sued...and engine manufacturer, and marina owner, and I betcha there is a huge settlement.



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This is Kalifornia, the only f'ng state in the Union where you can sue yourself, get a judgement.....and eventually collect.....


Actually you can do that in any state.


for instance:

drunken stupor

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 09:46 AM



That's a good-sized boat to capsize if the chop wasn't that bad.


Saturday was very mild...something doesn't add up.


I did a race Sat. out around Gilda or Grace (always get them mixed up) and Gina. Out at the rigs we saw 20 knots and 4-5' seas. Choppy sure. A problem? Nope.


Here's how it goes.....from south to north.
Gina first...EVERYBODY knows Gina.
Then alphabetical.....
Gail, Gilda, Grace.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:46 PM

Interesting little twist of irony near the end of this news video....


http://www.ksby.com/news/four-bodies-found-near-capsized-boat-off-channel-islands-coast/#!prettyPhoto/0/

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:48 PM

Interesting little twist of irony near the end of this news video....


http://www.ksby.com/news/four-bodies-found-near-capsized-boat-off-channel-islands-coast/#!prettyPhoto/0/


"Irony" would have been the CG helicopter crashing while searching. I think finding the overturned dink was "coincidence."
But no sense quibbling over it, thanks for the link.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:57 PM


Interesting little twist of irony near the end of this news video....


http://www.ksby.com/news/four-bodies-found-near-capsized-boat-off-channel-islands-coast/#!prettyPhoto/0/


"Irony" would have been the CG helicopter crashing while searching. I think finding the overturned dink was "coincidence."
But no sense quibbling over it, thanks for the link.


I told my Mom that that fifth year of high school was gonna be a complete f'ng waste of my time, but did she listen?....

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:04 AM

I told my Mom that that fifth year of high school was gonna be a complete f'ng waste of my time, but did she listen?....


her fifth year?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:13 AM

I told my Mom that that fifth year of high school was gonna be a complete f'ng waste of my time, but did she listen?....


her fifth year?


kno, myne.....

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:53 AM


I told my Mom that that fifth year of high school was gonna be a complete f'ng waste of my time, but did she listen?....


her fifth year?


kno, myne.....


hah!
anyway, apologies here for being an asswart.

I do feel sorry for the families of these guys.




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