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#1 gimmee

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:17 AM

Surely after Sanya's misfortune and near sinking, God knows how many other mishaps/sinkings due to rudder failure, it is time to rethink a more modern method of steering a boat, after all, the basic rudder has been around over a thousand years with little change in design since the Chinese invented it. At least the sweep oars the Portugese and Vikings used were easily repairable and replaceable without damaging the integrity of the boat. How about above water tubes the length of the hull and with flaps to control the flow of water each side or high tech sweep oars ? FFS it's the 21st century !

#2 I'moutahere

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 05:20 AM

While you're at it - want to try for the wheel?


Transom hung rudders do the trick.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:38 AM

While you're at it - want to try for the wheel?


Transom hung rudders do the trick.


Good point but then there's no handicapping in F1 but what if a new steering device gained you a 20% improved IRC no. ?

#4 JimC

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

what if a new steering device gained you a 20% improved IRC no. ?

A large bucket towed off each quarter might do that for you.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:45 PM

Telekinesis = Zero drag.......think about it people.

#6 Sublime

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:51 PM

Just use the GPS to steer it.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:52 PM

Does one need steering when at the 4th mode?

#8 I'moutahere

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:14 PM


While you're at it - want to try for the wheel?


Transom hung rudders do the trick.


Good point but then there's no handicapping in F1 but what if a new steering device gained you a 20% improved IRC no. ?


By "want to try for the wheel?" I meant re-invent it. :rolleyes:

#9 Steam Flyer

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:24 PM

Telekinesis = Zero drag.......think about it people.


:lol: . :lol: . :lol:

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Is this a serious & practical suggestion?
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#10 Mark K

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:43 PM

Surely after Sanya's misfortune and near sinking, God knows how many other mishaps/sinkings due to rudder failure, it is time to rethink a more modern method of steering a boat, after all, the basic rudder has been around over a thousand years with little change in design since the Chinese invented it. At least the sweep oars the Portugese and Vikings used were easily repairable and replaceable without damaging the integrity of the boat. How about above water tubes the length of the hull and with flaps to control the flow of water each side or high tech sweep oars ? FFS it's the 21st century !


I think a certain model of Boeing, and another by Airbus, were known to have been crashed by their rudders too.

How many have to die before these devil-spawned contraptions are relegated to the dust-bin of history?

#11 Overbored

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

Simple , Don't have a rudder. Don't turn, just go straight to your destination. going straight there doesn't waste a much wind

#12 ShockValue

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 06:59 PM

Steer the boat with the sails. Claim you're a disabled craft so everyone else has to get the hell out of your way.

#13 SemiSalt

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:44 PM

On airplanes, some people think it's better to have a big rudder in the front, but I think that's a gross canard.

#14 Ryley

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 07:47 PM

On airplanes, some people think it's better to have a big rudder in the front, but I think that's a gross canard.


ouch

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

Terry Hutchinson doesn't turn his boat..........the world revolves around Terry Hutchinson. :P

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 04:38 AM

For some reason I am curiously drawn to this thread.....

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:01 AM

On airplanes, some people think it's better to have a big rudder in the front, but I think that's a gross canard.



That's the elevator that gets moved to the font on canard aircraft, not the rudder, you rudderless fack.

#18 equivocator

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 12:04 PM

"You say you want a revolution,
We'd all love to see the plan.

John Lennan, c. 1967

#19 Gouvernail

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:28 PM

It's like an entire thread....from somebody I married.



Why change me?? Why ??

#20 Overbored

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:02 PM


On airplanes, some people think it's better to have a big rudder in the front, but I think that's a gross canard.



That's the elevator that gets moved to the font on canard aircraft, not the rudder, you rudderless fack.


is it Rudderless Fack or is it flying backwards

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:05 PM

This thread is hilarious. What the heck is wrong with rudders?

also, @casc27: i think you actually can have a canard rudder. i am pretty sure that a couple of those AC boats from the 90s had them -- in other words, a second rudder up front. Why you would want that is beyond me, but I'm almost positive they did.

#22 slap

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:21 PM

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#23 Chris in Santa Cruz, CA

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:00 AM

Sometimes I feel like a rudderless child.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:47 AM

Well if someone can come up with another way to steer a sailboat then I'm all ears.

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#25 Overbored

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 07:11 AM

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#26 Diarmuid

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 07:31 PM

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Two rudders, no keel. It's the future. :P

Why not buy a Jeanneau/Beneteau & steer with the bow thrusters? Chicks dig bow thrusters.




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