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#1001 Tornado-Cat

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 03:29 PM

Flying kids, amazing...

 



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 04:29 PM

Watched it three times...

Amazing what has developed in a very short period of time.

Lucky kids!



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 04:35 PM

I would have loved sailing that at his age !

 

BTW, the Flying Phantom project date from 2010 and Martin Fisher worked on the FP. Do we know if they flied before or after TNZ? who inspired whom ?



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 05:18 PM

Wasn't it you who famously claimed several times that the Red Bull YAC would result in total disaster - young kids could never tame the AC45's ?



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 06:28 PM

Who was it that actually pulled the plug on the "money" race? The "Red Bull YAC" final?



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:30 PM

Exceeded the upper wind limits established for the "youths"....



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:34 PM

Exceeded the upper wind limits established for the "youths"....

...and where did those upper wind limits originate?



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 09:00 PM

Part of the whole arrangement before the start of the Youth series.

Search the SI's and other documents if you find the need. They were firmly in place before the start of the first race in that series.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 09:21 PM

Part of the whole arrangement before the start of the Youth series.

Search the SI's and other documents if you find the need. They were firmly in place before the start of the first race in that series.

You are not providing any information, why are you responding?



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 09:45 PM

Here watch the last race and the cancelled race:

 

 

Upper wind limit for the last race was 18.6 knots.

 

For your own sake, jhc use a search engine and go find out what you want to know specifically.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:03 PM

"For your own sake, jhc use a search engine and go find out what you want to know specifically." (fs)

 

No way! And miss all this acrimony?

 

You still have not provided any information pertinent to my question, though you have upped the band width a lot with that you-tube link.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:48 PM

I was considering saying, "Jesus H. Christ! Look it up yourself."

 

Your first question was, "Who was it that actually pulled the plug on the "money" race?"

My answer was perhaps not clear enough.

The race committee, "pulled the plug". The reason was the wind speed exceeded the wind limits in place for the regatta. That speed was 18.6 knots for the second race as discussed in the video posted.

 

Your second query, "..and where did those upper wind limits originate?"

The limits were presumably written by the Organizing Authority.

 

What are you really asking?

 

If you want anything more specific then, JHC, do your own research.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:56 PM

He may post as JHC but he's more an 800lb gorilla. With a low, receding forehead.. :)

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:43 PM

He may post as JHC but he's more an 800lb gorilla. With a low, receding forehead.. :)

Sometimes it's like walking into a Monty Python skit around here.

 

I thought this was a pretty benign thread. Simple question about why a race was cancelled, simple answer.....

 

 

It's always gotta be more convoluted than it seems.  :ph34r:



#1015 jhc

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 11:54 PM

A shortage of facts, and long on acrimony. And mr. ray chiming in as well.

 

You two must be brothers.

 

...Jesus H. Christ!

 

I kind of like that.

 

Just who is the "Organizing Authority" anyway?



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:08 AM

If that's the next JC question, maybe look up 'God'?

Saw it in Wiki somewhere but definitely lost the link some time back..

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:16 AM

If that's the next JC question, maybe look up 'God'?

Saw it in Wiki somewhere but lost the link some time back..

Still my first question actually.



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:22 AM

Lighten up, there's fuck all else going on around here these days. It's the silly season and you fit right in so even you can locate a bar stool and find a gap. Just don't expect priority treatment from the wench.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:26 AM

Lighten up? Nameless authorities, taking the wind from the ac youth's sails, just as they were to make the big time!

 

Heads should roll!

 

Lifetime bans!

 

WTF?



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:31 AM

TNZ crews took 1st and 2nd in the ACYC. Very impressive. What is up your ass?

Never mind.. (Yikes)

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:41 AM

I have discussed these events with other authorities. Powerful organizing authorities. There are lifetime banns issued to (almost) all the youth involved with "youth ac '13". These poor youths will never, ever be allowed to perform in youth ac events again!

 

I call upon all good minded, and thoughtful sea lawyer types to make a stand, and rectify this travesty!

 

Take this matter to the top!

 

ISAF, US Sailing, AAU!

 

The youths were not the ones who exceeded the limits!

 

Was the Organizing Authority!

 

All noted in the above posts...Out in the open, with nothing hidden.

 

There is only one man who can save them, Peter Huston!



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:44 AM

Wasn't it you who famously claimed several times that the Red Bull YAC would result in total disaster - young kids could never tame the AC45's ?

Trolling again ? I never spoke of the Red Bull, I say the AC45 was as well suited to young kids as the Flying Phantom is to you. :D



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:44 AM

^^ I bow down to PH. Let Justice be Served.. :)

Jesus H Christ, who did you think was going to win that event? Burling and crew nailed it, the result would have been even bigger had the big-wind race been run.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:57 AM

I feel the youth ac is a metaphor for the entire ac, as it stands today.

 

A great idea, that was carried out poorly, and a result that leaves a lot of questions unanswered.

 

If ac35's "organizing authority" who are by the way, the same players as ac34, are consistent, we the observers, and interested parties, are in for a similar f***** up as the last one. If they can even get it up off the ground.

 

There were some bright spots:

The boats

The venue

The final series

 

Two of those seem to be abandoned, with the third probably due to be changed also.

 

Seems a shame...



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 02:47 AM

oh..

So it is a skit, sorry, must have stepped through the wrong door...

 

Carry on then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

psst. who's the author? name of the play--skit?



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:35 AM

Wasn't it you who famously claimed several times that the Red Bull YAC would result in total disaster - young kids could never tame the AC45's ?

Trolling again ? I never spoke of the Red Bull.

Short memory eh ? Not the first time you've changed colors when questioned - you went on for awhile about this.

 

That's ok - I know the truth - keep your head in the sand :)






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