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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

So what happened to China?

They were the 6th declared ACWS associated Team - but suddenly we have only 5??
Somewhat typical for ACXX - no announcement, just slipped off the radar.

February 13, 2013 http://www.americasc...th-americas-cup

Youth crews supported by America’s Cup World Series Teams

China – China Team/Name TBC
France – Energy Team/French Youth Team
New Zealand – Emirates Team New Zealand/Name TBC
Sweden – Artemis Racing/Swedish Youth Challenge
USA – ORACLE TEAM USA/American Youth Sailing Force (SFO)
USA – ORACLE TEAM USA/USA45 (USA)

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:07 PM

Well done, guys. Sorry to see GBR didn't make it.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

So what happened to China?

They were the 6th declared ACWS associated Team - but suddenly we have only 5??
Somewhat typical for ACXX - no announcement, just slipped off the radar.

February 13, 2013 http://www.americasc...th-americas-cup

Youth crews supported by America’s Cup World Series Teams

China – China Team/Name TBC
France – Energy Team/French Youth Team
New Zealand – Emirates Team New Zealand/Name TBC
Sweden – Artemis Racing/Swedish Youth Challenge
USA – ORACLE TEAM USA/American Youth Sailing Force (SFO)
USA – ORACLE TEAM USA/USA45 (USA)

China's exclusion, for whatever reasons, may help explain the decision to let 5 instead of 4 teams through from the Selection Series.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:06 PM

So why didn't BAR support GBR straight through to the finals? BA's stated aim with working with OR this cup is to get a leg up for a GBR challenge next time so why not support a youth team that could add to his future crew?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

My guess would be because MSBAR is just a OTUSA daughter project as yet, no real resources of their own. Valid question though.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

Add to my original question then why LR didn't give an ITA youth team a leg up? Somehow Energy have funds to do it.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:34 PM

^

that kind of makes sense in that with only a version 1 ac72 the italians already have a good trainer for next time

which opens the slot for the french to remain in the loop for next time

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:11 PM

Add to my original question then why LR didn't give an ITA youth team a leg up? Somehow Energy have funds to do it.

LR did let the ITA team from this week train using the LR ESS/X40 but yes, would have been nicer of them to help a team to the Finals. Prada helped to fund Italian 2012 Olympics Sailing; perhaps Prada just didn't see enough splash value in a RBYS if they couldn't do it in Chroma?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:22 AM

At Objective AUS: http://www.objective...th-americas-cup

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:26 AM

The RBYACSS wrap....


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:39 AM

So why didn't BAR support GBR straight through to the finals? BA's stated aim with working with OR this cup is to get a leg up for a GBR challenge next time so why not support a youth team that could add to his future crew?


Well done to GBR Youth Challenge for getting it together to get to SF when others failed.

That said, I suspect BAR, if it gets funding to proceed to AC35, is more likely to be looking at graduates of Team GBR (i.e. the Olympic squad) as potential crew than GBR Youth Challenge. That's where Ainslie, Percy and Draper have all come from, for example. Most (not all) of GBR Youth Challenge have pursued more of a keelboat career which may or may not be directly relevant to the AC35 boat, whatever that may be.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:47 AM

My guess would be because MSBAR is just a OTUSA daughter project as yet, no real resources of their own.


There's a certain amount of funding from JP Morgan. How much, who knows? I suspect your surmise is essentially correct,

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:43 AM


So why didn't BAR support GBR straight through to the finals? BA's stated aim with working with OR this cup is to get a leg up for a GBR challenge next time so why not support a youth team that could add to his future crew?


Well done to GBR Youth Challenge for getting it together to get to SF when others failed.

That said, I suspect BAR, if it gets funding to proceed to AC35, is more likely to be looking at graduates of Team GBR (i.e. the Olympic squad) as potential crew than GBR Youth Challenge. That's where Ainslie, Percy and Draper have all come from, for example. Most (not all) of GBR Youth Challenge have pursued more of a keelboat career which may or may not be directly relevant to the AC35 boat, whatever that may be.


Having a keelboat career is not a bad thing. Take a look at the percentage of keelboat/dinghy sailors to multihull specialists in the current AC lineup. Across the four teams I can count on one hand the number of multihull specialists. Keelboat sailors are by far the largest majority.

The AC slogan should really be ' The worlds fastest inshore cats with the world best monohull sailors'

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

^

It could be argued that apparent wind sailing skills are more key than multi-hull. 49er sailors, for instance, seem to take to AC45s quite easily. Sorry but I don't see Farr 45 or Classe 40 skills as so germane.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:54 AM

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

Felictations to the TILT team for the first place in regattas! Good training on D35... Ask EB for some money as Swiss representant!

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:06 PM

It is interesting that nationality requirements in the America's Cup proper seem to have been pushed aside, but they are alive and prospering in the Youth AC.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

It is interesting that nationality requirements in the America's Cup proper seem to have been pushed aside, but they are alive and prospering in the Youth AC.


More interesting is there is no requirement that there be a match race to determine the winner of the Youth America's Cup.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:37 PM

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

the implication being

that the audience find match racing boring

and if it works of the juniors

they may roll it out for the seniors?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

the implication being

that the audience find match racing boring

and if it works of the juniors

they may roll it out for the seniors?


A few months ago Coutts said in an interview that fleet racing in ACWS was more audience-friendly and that the emphasis on match racing in the AC was a problem (was the implication, I can't remember his exact words).

One more reason for wishing OR doom and unmitigated failure in AC34.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

from Korea thread...

Little update from Team Korea etc:
http://livesaildie.c...rom-pete-blair/


Some good stuff there...



The selection of the NZ Team “NZL Sailing Team with Emirates Team New Zealand” for the Red Bull AC45 Youth America’s cup in September in San Francisco has been a tough process. Over 80 NZ under 25 sailors applied – cut to a squad of 15 and then to the final 7. We are stoked with the make-up of the final team although it was very tough to see some strong sailing talent not make the final cut. Our team has NZ’s top sailors from the 49er, 470 and Laser, as well as 2 experienced keelboat sailors, with Peter helming and Blair as tactician. It’s been heaps of fun training together.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

Is anyone going to make it to the Objective Australia Launch next week? I will be there.

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Objective Australia, the Australian team competing for the inaugural Red Bull Youth America’s Cup will have its official campaign launch at the Royal Prince Alfred Yacht Club (RPAYC) Newport on Saturday 23 March at 5:30pm. Objective Australia is the first Australian team compete for America’s Cup success in over a decade and will be competing against seven other nations in September 2013.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:18 AM

Yep will be there too, daughter is sailing out of rpayc that weekend.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:55 PM

Youth America's Cup 2013 - Training begins for the Force
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The Force begins training - Youth America’s Cup 2013' Erik Simonson

Youth America's Cup 2013. The American Youth Sailing Force (The Force) greeted twelve international youth teams vying for four spots in September's main regatta in last month’s trials. With the competitors now selected, The Force gets down to work training on the AC45 this Friday. They know what’s needed to win the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

During the international trials, The Force’s yacht management and local skills made them instant experts while forging friendships with many of the would-be competitors. Team member, Mikey Radziejowski is excited about The Force meeting the international sailors, 'It was awesome getting to spend some time around our future competition. Whether they made into the Red Bull Youth America's Cup or not, it was great to get to know fellow youth sailors who were all here with the same goals.'

more... http://www.sail-worl...he-Force/107524

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

Youth teams wrestling familiar foes: preparation and fundraising
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While the teams entered in the 2013 America’s Cup are gearing up for the Summer of Racing in San Francisco, so, too are the teams entered in the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup. Not surprisingly, two of their main challenges are similar to the professional teams: preparation and fundraising.
The Red Bull Youth America’s Cup has been designed as a vehicle for youth sailors to gain the experience necessary to join an America’s Cup syndicate. Previously, such opportunities didn’t exist. Ten teams are entered in the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup Final, scheduled Sept. 1-4, and will race the AC45 wing sail catamarans that are featured on the America’s Cup World Series. The teams must be comprised of nationals aged 19-24.

more... http://www.americasc...and-fundraising

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:19 PM

TILT wins the video production award! :o


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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:12 PM

March training for the 2 OracleUSA supported teams...

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:21 PM

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:14 PM



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

I see where the American team (Force) is training on an SL33. Whose boat is that?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 05:10 PM

Latest - cool stuff. 'ishotmyself' :o

 

The line-up for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup:

Country: Australia
Team: Objective Australia(1)
Yacht Club: Royal Prince Alfred Yacht Club
Skipper: Jason Waterhouse (21, Newport, Australia)

 

Country: France
Team: Energy Youth Team/Name TBC(2)
Yacht Club: TBC
Skipper: TBC

 

Country: Germany
Team: STG/NRV Youth Team(1)
Yacht Club: NRV (Norddeutscher Regatta Verein)
Helmsman: Erik Heil (23, Kiel, Germany)

 

Country: New Zealand

Team: NZL Sailing Team with Emirates Team New Zealand(2
Yacht Club: Yachting New Zealand
Skipper: Peter Burling (22, Auckland, New Zealand)

 

Country: New Zealand
Team: Full Metal Jacket Racing(1)
Yacht Club: Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron
Skipper: William Tiller (23, Auckland, New Zealand)

 

Country: Portugal
Team: ROFF/Cascais Sailing Team(1)
Yacht Club: Naval Club of Cascais
Skipper: Bernardo Freitas (22, Cascais, Portugal)

 

Country: Sweden
Team: Artemis Racing/Swedish Youth Challenge(2)
Yacht Club: GKSS (Royal Swedish Yacht Club)
Skipper: Charlie Ekberg (23, Stockholm, Sweden)

 

Country: Switzerland
Team: Team Tilt(1)
Yacht Club: Société Nautique de Genève (SNG)
Skipper: Lucien Cujean (23, Versoix, Switzerland)

 

Country: USA
Team: ORACLE TEAM USA/American Youth Sailing Force(2)
Yacht Club: TBC
Sailing Team Manager: Ian Andrewes (23, San Francisco, Calif.)

 

Country: USA
Team: ORACLE TEAM USA/USA45 Racing(2)
Yacht Club: San Diego Yacht Club
Skipper: Charlie Buckingham (23, Newport Beach, Calif.)

 

Notes:
(1) Indicates team’s participation through Red Bull Youth America’s Cup Selection Series
(2) indicates team’s participation through America’s Cup World Series team



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

http://acworldseries...ews-how-to.html

 

How to gybe (can't view - but might be good)



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:33 PM

Just realized LR / Italy aren't participating.  That's a bummer.



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:53 PM


Just realized LR / Italy aren't participating.  That's a bummer.


LR did support an Italian team insofar as letting them train on an X40 they own. But yes, they could instead have green-lighted the team straight thru to September. Maybe they just didn't want any program distractions. Too bad, agreed. OR is doing a lot for the USA teams, AR for the SWE team, ETNZ may already have the winner lined up w that Burling team.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 05:48 PM

 

April 12, 2013

Swedish Youth Challenge Selects Nine Finalists

75 Swedish sailors between the ages of 19 and 25 competed for 9 spots on board the Swedish Youth Challenge. The sailors participated in a competitive selection series which included an interview process followed by a trial regatta on Lake Garda in Italy. From that group, nine young sailors qualified to participate in the Swedish Youth Challenge for Red Bull Youth America’s Cup, led by KSSS sailing Director Bjorn Johansson.

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This week, Charlie Ekberg and Niclas Düring will be put to the test when they sail for Artemis Racing in the America’s Cup World Series in Naples, Italy from April 16 – 21. For the two young Swedish sailors, it is a great opportunity and honor to participate .

In addition to the AC World Series, the Swedish Youth Challenge team will race the Seacart26 and M32’s in regattas throughout the spring and summer of 2013 in the Nordic region in preparation for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup in September.

 

Read full story in Swedish here.

Like Swedish Youth Challenge on Facebook.

 

Swedish Youth Challenge Crew List:

Andreas Axelsson

Arvid Bildh

Charlie Ekberg Enlund (Helmsman)

Jonathan Tengroth Ameln

Niclas Düring (Tactician)

Nils Åkervall

Philip Carlsson

Sofia Düring

Tom Gross

 

http://artemis-racin...-nine-finalists



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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:34 PM

April 23, 2013 NEXT WORLD GROUP JOINING ENERGY TEAM FOR THE RED BULL YOUTH AMERICA’S CUP

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After the America’s Cup World Series, which took place in Naples, Italy from April 18-21, 2013, the next big event for ENERGY TEAM is the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup in San Francisco September 1st to the 4th. In this competition, with 10 teams from 8 different countries participating, France will be represented by a youth crew all under the age of 25, taking the helm of the Peyron brothers’ AC45. After establishing a financial and operational partnership with Next World Group, an investment firm with a European background based in San Francisco, the youth crew has officially become NEXT WORLD ENERGY.

 

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The Next World Energy crew

The team representing France at the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup will be led by Charles Hainneville, vice-champion of the 2012 Youth World Championship in F18, and selected with the support of the French Sailing Federation and Yacht Club of France. He will be assisted by the wing trimmer Antoine Lauriot-Prévost, Romain and Valentin Bellet, Hubert Savatier, Arthur Ponroy and Paul Dagault. In this fall’s competition in San Francisco, the youth team will be accompanied by the adult Energy Team and members of the French Sailing Federation in every step of their preparation. Training began in Naples where the youth crew completed a solid training program aboard the AC45 with Energy Team.

 

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more... http://energy-team.a...th-americas-cup



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:10 PM

Strong program....

 

April 26, 2013 THE NEXT WORLD ENERGY YOUNGSTERS BUSY COMPETING

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This weekend four of the crewmen of NEXT WORLD ENERGY, led by Bruno Peyron, will be taking part in the TROFEO PIRELLI in Portofino (Italy). They will be facing three other Extreme 40s. It all begins on Sunday with on board the French Extreme 40, Charles Hainneville, Arthur Ponroy, Hubert Savatier and Romain Bellet. They will be facing 3 other Extreme 40s, each sailed by a leading skipper, Francesco de Angelis, Torben Grael and Tommaso Chieffi. These four days of match racing and exhibition races will be taking place between 28th April and 1st May in the paradise waters of Portofino.

 

Meanwhile in Southern Brittany, two other members of NEXT WORLD ENERGY, Antoine Lauriot-Prévost and Valentin Bellet, will be out competing in the EUROCAT in Carnac aboard their F18s.

 

On Saturday afternoon, ENERGY TEAM came up with an idea that has been set up by Vincent Guého of NEXT WORLD ENERGY, where between 8 à 10 Viper type catamarans will be doing battle over an America’s Cup type race course. A great opportunity to get ready for the national championships (Brest from 8th to 16th May) and to train for the Youth America’s Cup. Antoine Lauriot-Prévost has just taken part alongside Yann Guichard in a week of training in Geneva aboard a Decision 35 and will be ready for this show on Saturday off Carnac.

 

more...http://energy-team.a...-busy-competing



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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:57 PM

 

 

Published on May 5, 2013

Follow this link to donate: http://www.thrillpledge.com/projects/

A group of New Zealand's top youth sailors have an opportunity to compete at the first ever Youth Americas Cup Regatta in September 2013 - and they need your help to make it a success.


Follow the NZL Sailing Team on:
Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/NZLSailingTeam
Website - http://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/

 



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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:56 PM

Nice video, thanks. Decent recovery effort.

Bit of new film and some ironing and they are back into it by the looks.

 

That must be a 2nd boat with Red Bull graphics. The one HS/GGYC/OTUSA were using in Naples would still be on the way back wouldn't it?



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:52 AM

The boat and wing that was used in Naples by the Hagara/Steinacher is formerly Boat 5 as used by Coutts. The RedBull boat we flipped on Saturday was the former Greencom boat that was the first to ever get branded by RedBull. The damage was pretty minimal, just replaced the top three ribs and patched a few of the lowers ones today. Film is going on tomorrow and new graphics on Thursday. We will be out sailing again this weekend.

 

Also here's an updated capsize video with more interviews:  

 

 

Cheers, Ian



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 12:05 PM

Thanks for the info on the 2 boats Ian.

How many days practice do you hope to get on the 45 before the YAC?

Is the 2nd US team also getting time?

Do you know how many 45s are going to be available altogether for the YAC and how the regatta will run?

Best of luck.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 05:21 PM

The ETNZ supported YAC team raising funds

 

 

A group of New Zealand's top youth sailors have an opportunity to compete at the first ever Youth Americas Cup Regatta in September 2013 - and they need your support to help them win it for New Zealand.

Led by 22 year old two time Olympian Peter Burling and his 23 year old sailing partner Blair Tuke, this team of seven sailors represent the NZL Sailing Team and Emirates Team New Zealand. Racing will take place in the same high performance, wing sailed AC45 catamarans that are used in the Americas Cup World Series.

 

more...

http://www.thrillple...th-americas-cup



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:38 PM

RC interview at SailBlast about the YAC
http://sailblast.blo...ericas-cup.html

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:28 PM

Looks like the German entry is pulling out of the YAC now.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:33 PM

Looks like the German entry is pulling out of the YAC now.

That makes no sense at all.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

Looks like the German entry is pulling out of the YAC now.

That makes no sense at all.

 

True.

The YAC as such has no resemblance to anything LVC/AC. But you don't know how the sponsors react regarding the association with the AC. Disclaimer: I'm just speculating about the reason - if it the pull-out is true at all.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:42 PM

Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:

http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html

http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow

 

Will they stop driving cars too?



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:45 PM

Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:

http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html

http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow

 

Will they stop driving cars too?

 

Are they in motorsports?



#852 SW Sailor

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:12 AM

Looks like the German entry is pulling out of the YAC now.

That makes no sense at all.

Could be a simple issue of funding - I think it takes > $100K to fund a campaign.



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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:48 AM

QUITE a bit more than $100,000.  Up to $500,000 I have it on good authority.



#854 Terry Hollis

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:46 PM

German youth team withdraws from America’s Cup competition 

 

Posted: 12:01 p.m. Monday, May 13, 2013

 

 

SAN FRANCISCO — 

In the wake of the death of an America’s Cup crew member last week, the German youth team announced Monday it was withdrawing from the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup set to be raced on San Francisco Bay in September.

 

You can read the rest here .. 

 

http://www.ktvu.com/...ompetiti/nXqBs/



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:59 PM

German youth team withdraws from Americas Cup competition 
 
Posted: 12:01 p.m. Monday, May 13, 2013
 
 
SAN FRANCISCO  

In the wake of the death of an Americas Cup crew member last week, the German youth team announced Monday it was withdrawing from the Red Bull Youth Americas Cup set to be raced on San Francisco Bay in September.
 
You can read the rest here .. 
 
http://www.ktvu.com/...ompetiti/nXqBs/


They didn't pull any punches did they ?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:07 PM

German youth team withdraws from Americas Cup competition 
 
Posted: 12:01 p.m. Monday, May 13, 2013
 
 
SAN FRANCISCO  

In the wake of the death of an Americas Cup crew member last week, the German youth team announced Monday it was withdrawing from the Red Bull Youth Americas Cup set to be raced on San Francisco Bay in September.
 
You can read the rest here .. 
 
http://www.ktvu.com/...ompetiti/nXqBs/


They didn't pull any punches did they ?

 

I wonder if the German skipper and crew felt that way too.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:23 AM

Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:

http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html

http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow

 

Will they stop driving cars too?

 

Are they in motorsports?

Always keep in mind: this is an American Forum; therefore accuracy is not mandatory. However the way the pulling out of the German team is commented on the FP "Krauts out" sets again a new low in standard. Fuck you 'mericans too!



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:21 AM

I thught the headline 'Krauts out' was pretty fucking rude too. The 'septics' who write the front page have no shame!



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:38 AM

 

Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:

http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html

http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow

 

Will they stop driving cars too?

 

Are they in motorsports?

Always keep in mind: this is an American Forum; therefore accuracy is not mandatory. However the way the pulling out of the German team is commented on the FP "Krauts out" sets again a new low in standard. Fuck you 'mericans too!

 

Shoot First, ask questions later.. not just a US trait but more a trait of "Modern Journalism" :P

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#860 waterboy42

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:16 AM

Well I guess the Germans will never submit an Ocean Race team

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:21 AM

German youth team withdraws from America’s Cup competition

 

Posted: 12:01 p.m. Monday, May 13, 2013

 

 

SAN FRANCISCO — 

In the wake of the death of an America’s Cup crew member last week, the German youth team announced Monday it was withdrawing from the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup set to be raced on San Francisco Bay in September.

 

You can read the rest here .. 

 

http://www.ktvu.com/...ompetiti/nXqBs/

 

FYI

 

The Danish youth wikings, that got ditched by coutts and bundoc becourse they wanted an australien team to enter, has send a letter to AC...something, that they want to take germany´s place in the AC45 youth AC.

 

http://minbaad.dk/ny...1a3a9150d388212

 

sorry it´s in Danish....



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:40 PM

Well I guess the Germans will never submit an Ocean Race team

Seem to remember they won the VOR with Illbruck!!

 



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:46 PM

The level of ignorance on this forum seems to increase with the gravitas of the topic...



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:33 PM

from http://www.nbcbayare...-207355101.html

 

Sailors competing in September's America's Cup Youth Race say that despite last week's Artemis Team capsizing fatality, the race must go on. And these are young men who capsized themselves less than two weeks ago.

 

The American Youth Racing Force catamaran went over in San Francisco bay five days before the Artemis Team capsized just north of Treasure Island.

 

But the six crew members on board the vessel representing San Francisco all got through uninjured, when their boat flipped over.
They credit their safety training and preparation .

 

"None of us had done this before so it was the realization it happened - and then it was snap to action - everyone went to their places and knew immediately what to do", said Ian Andrewes, leader of the team.

 

cntd



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:27 PM

 

Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:

http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html

http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow

 

Will they stop driving cars too?

 

Are they in motorsports?

Always keep in mind: this is an American Forum; therefore accuracy is not mandatory. However the way the pulling out of the German team is commented on the FP "Krauts out" sets again a new low in standard. Fuck you 'mericans too!

 

No offense taken. Remember, "we" bombed Pearl Harbor.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:33 PM


 


Saw it verified by two websites, Yacht.de is pretty credible:
http://www.yacht.de/...eck/a80039.html
http://www.boerse-ex...346957/newsflow
 
Will they stop driving cars too?

 
Are they in motorsports?
Always keep in mind: this is an American Forum; therefore accuracy is not mandatory. However the way the pulling out of the German team is commented on the FP "Krauts out" sets again a new low in standard. Fuck you 'mericans too!
 
No offense taken. Remember, "we" bombed Pearl Harbor.

I must admit that heading rubbed me the wrong way .

Yes Ren thanks to that great historian Bluto in the documentary film " animal house " we really know who bombed Pearl :)

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

Thanks for the info on the 2 boats Ian.

How many days practice do you hope to get on the 45 before the YAC?

Is the 2nd US team also getting time?

Do you know how many 45s are going to be available altogether for the YAC and how the regatta will run?

Best of luck.

The boats are legally chartered by the ACRM on June 15th and any training at pier 80 has to happen before that. The re-branded boats are then given back to the teams on August 12th and then supposedly we get sailing time for a few hours each day with maintenance days interspersed. So not quite 2 weeks of training before the event. Will be a battle of the fastest learners or the luckiest, either way it'll be fun. 



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:58 PM

Also here's our team talking to NBC Bay Area about safety in the sport in case you're interested. They dropped my "no comment" when asked how I felt about the German team pulling the plug.

 



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:51 PM

Thanks for the info on the 2 boats Ian.

How many days practice do you hope to get on the 45 before the YAC?

Is the 2nd US team also getting time?

Do you know how many 45s are going to be available altogether for the YAC and how the regatta will run?

Best of luck.

The boats are legally chartered by the ACRM on June 15th and any training at pier 80 has to happen before that. The re-branded boats are then given back to the teams on August 12th and then supposedly we get sailing time for a few hours each day with maintenance days interspersed. So not quite 2 weeks of training before the event. Will be a battle of the fastest learners or the luckiest, either way it'll be fun. 

 

 

Thanks for that - good info.

Nice job on the TV show, counters the knee-jerk reactions a bit I would think.



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:05 PM

From today's ACRM press conference - the sponsoring German Federation has withdrawn, but the German Red Bull youth team wants to continue and is looking for alternate sponsorship.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 01:20 AM

 

Thanks for the info on the 2 boats Ian.

How many days practice do you hope to get on the 45 before the YAC?

Is the 2nd US team also getting time?

Do you know how many 45s are going to be available altogether for the YAC and how the regatta will run?

Best of luck.

The boats are legally chartered by the ACRM on June 15th and any training at pier 80 has to happen before that. The re-branded boats are then given back to the teams on August 12th and then supposedly we get sailing time for a few hours each day with maintenance days interspersed. So not quite 2 weeks of training before the event. Will be a battle of the fastest learners or the luckiest, either way it'll be fun. 

 

 

Thanks for that - good info.

Nice job on the TV show, counters the knee-jerk reactions a bit I would think.

 

 

Nice work, Ian. A breath of fresh air.  Best wishes for your campaign.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:28 AM

Also here's our team talking to NBC Bay Area about safety in the sport in case you're interested. They dropped my "no comment" when asked how I felt about the German team pulling the plug.

 

 

Ian, thank you VERY much for conducting yourselves so well in that interview.  I REALLY hope the nannies of our society do not determine for you what you can and can't do.  I wish you gratifying, exciting sailing . . . . as well as safety. 



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:26 AM

To lighten things up a bit here is a quick update from Full Metal Jacket following their 4th place in the Extreme series in Qingdao http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yblX9D7JNMw



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:57 AM

Looks like the German entry is pulling out of the YAC now.

That makes no sense at all.

'Sailing Team Germany' 'Premium Official Partner' is SAP.... 
Not sure if SAP enjoys financing an Oracle event.
http://en.wikipedia....ation_v._SAP_AG



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:57 PM

Withdrawing and using "safety" as an excuse is so typically German that it is embarrassing. You can't imagine a more pussificated nation than GER. Geeeezzzzzzz...



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:15 PM

Please! Some of my best friends are Germans. Germany is a very efficient, hard working nation, a fact that is usually not appreciated in other places in Europe or overseas (examples not given here, would have to go in PA). There is absolutely nothing you have to apologize for here (with the exception of Peer Steinbrück, maybe).

Keep up the good work, your contributions here are of much value!

 

Withdrawing and using "safety" as an excuse is so typically German that it is embarrassing. You can't imagine a more pussificated nation than GER. Geeeezzzzzzz...



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:37 PM

Withdrawing and using "safety" as an excuse is so typically German that it is embarrassing. You can't imagine a more pussificated nation than GER. Geeeezzzzzzz...

 

Absolutely true.  The ACWS and AC-Youth Cup are so far different than the AC72s that it is TOTAL BS to use the Artemis accident as an excuse to drop.  Not familiar enough about modern German society to know how universal the characterization you make is, but it very much does seem as though there is evidence that they have over-compensated for their nation's early/mid 20th Century actions in some "pussification" ways.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

Sounds like politicians using a sporting event to make a political statement. 

I wonder how the sailors feel about this.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 05:00 PM

National authorities have a tendency to be dysfunctional. Germany is no exception.

Just imagine if the US Youth Teams were managed through US Sailing...

:wacko: 

 

No matter which country they are from, support the AC Youth Teams!
For the Anarchists in the SF Bay area, sign up to the AYSF fundraising dinner tomorrow Thursday:

http://americanyouthsailingforce.eventbrite.com/ 

7 hours left to signup deadline....



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:39 PM

We'll be showing some cool video's and sharing stories about our adventure so far. Open bar and free donated wine through dinner. Tickets are available at the door and all payments are tax refundable. Tom Ehman will also be there doing a CupDate. Will be an awesome night for sure.

 

Here's just a preview of what we'll be showing. 

 

 

 

http://americanyouthsailingforce.eventbrite.com/ 



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

'Sailing Team Germany' 'Premium Official Partner' is SAP.... 
Not sure if SAP enjoys financing an Oracle event.
http://en.wikipedia....ation_v._SAP_AG

 

Isn't the urban legend that Larry flashed a browneye at Hasso Plattner upon beating him in a yacht race?



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:06 PM

Here´s the story:

 

I never mooned Larry Ellison - http://www.sailingwo...d-Larry-Ellison



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:55 PM

TNZ involvement confirmed:

 

http://www.nzherald....jectid=10884287

 

"The NZL Sailing Team with Emirates Team New Zealand have confirmed they will compete in the inaugural Youth America's Cup, despite last week's tragic death of British sailor Andrew Simpson while training onboard Artemis"



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:25 AM

Here´s the story:
 
I never mooned Larry Ellison - http://www.sailingwo...d-Larry-Ellison

That is quite a read, thanx for the link.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:13 PM

I had a kiwi mate on Morning glory, The crew uniforms had Morning glory underpants, dont know if the crew did! Cheers all.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:18 PM

Support NZL Sailors for Youth America’s Cup
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DAYS LEFT
 

A group of New Zealand's top youth sailors have an opportunity to compete at the first ever Youth Americas Cup Regatta in September 2013 - and they need your support to help them win it for New Zealand.

Led by 22 year old two time Olympian Peter Burling and his 23 year old sailing partner Blair Tuke, this team of seven sailors represent the NZL Sailing Team and Emirates Team New Zealand. Racing will take place in the same high performance, wing sailed AC45 catamarans that are used in the Americas Cup World Series.

These young men are the future of sailing, driving the sport forward to a faster new era.

 

more ... http://www.thrillple...th-americas-cup



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

Team Australia reiterated their commitment too during the past day, lost the link but it's out there.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:14 AM

There will be a German team!

 

The crew that had qualified and lost its sponsor STG/NRV will start as ALL IN RACING - https://www.facebook...5925?ref=stream

 

They just started a new fundraising campaign.



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 03:20 AM

There will be a German team!

 

The crew that had qualified and lost its sponsor STG/NRV will start as ALL IN RACING - https://www.facebook...5925?ref=stream

 

They just started a new fundraising campaign.

 

Good news!  I hope they do well. 



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 04:30 AM

Here´s the story:

 

I never mooned Larry Ellison - http://www.sailingwo...d-Larry-Ellison

 

Hasso need not be so sensitive about this. In Aotearoa, mooning is an Ancient Maori tradition. These days mostly reserved for the UK royal family. But, as demonstrated by Dun Mihaka, the Archibishop of Mooning, it can be deployed in any circumstances where the task is to tell authorities to fuck off!  



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Posted 22 May 2013 - 04:43 AM

Here´s the story:

 

I never mooned Larry Ellison - http://www.sailingwo...d-Larry-Ellison

 

Hasso need not be so sensitive about this. In Aotearoa, mooning is an Ancient Maori tradition. These days mostly reserved for the UK royal family. But, as demonstrated by Dun Mihaka, the Archibishop of Mooning, it can be deployed in any circumstances where the task is to tell authorities to fuck off!  

 

And what the hell does this have to do with the YAC ?

 

more of your thread drift to give us a kiwi culture lesson ?

 

Spare us your nonsense.



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Posted Today, 04:02 PM

May 24, 2013 THE FRENCH SAILING FEDERATION PARTNERS WITH NEXT WORLD ENERGY

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Gilles Martin-Raget

 

 

During the first week of September, in between the Louis Vuitton Cup and America’s Cup finals, the city of San Francisco will be hosting the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup, for teams with members under 24 years old. The AC45 of France’s Next World Energy team will be taking part in this high-level competition. In order to prep the young competitors who will represent France, a sports partnership has been signed between Next World Energy and the French Sailing Federation.

 

The French challenger ENERGY TEAM was to introduce a youth crew at the San Francisco competition. “Our objective is to take part in the America’s Cup in four years, so it makes sense for us to prepare for the future,” explains Antonie Mermod, Technical Director of Energy Team. With the support of Next World Group, a European firm based in San Francisco, the team put in place a recruitment plan, and together with FFVoile began selecting the team members at the end of 2012. Up until the final selection is made for the San Francisco race (only six sailors and one alternate will be selected to be on board of the AC45) the young individuals being considered are training on various boats. In Naples on the AC45, sponsored by the Swiss watchmaker Corum, on an Open 7.50 at the Spi Ouest in France, and more recently at the Belle-Ile race, as well as at the Trofeo Pirelli in Portofino on Extreme40.

 

The recent partnership that was signed with the French Sailing Federation gives these young sailors a serious “power boost.” FFVoile’s commitment focuses on two aspects: first, they played a big role in the selection of the young team, “which is essential for FFVoile since they are usually more focused on youth and training, while we are obviously more used to working with professional sailors,” says Antoine Mermod.

 

According to Jacques Cathelineau, National Technical Director, the selection of this young team is a real success. “At the end of 2012, we worked with the French Youth Team and executives of the Federation (Marc Bouet, Franck Citeau) on two selection sessions in multihull at La Grande Motte. The athletes came from various backgrounds which makes it very interesting. We hope that this experience will be highly beneficial for them and their future careers.”

In addition, FFVoile is providing logistical and technical support during three intensive training sessions. The first one is currently taking place in Lorient from May 13-24, on an Extreme 40 catamaran, the closest to an AC45 to date. Antoine Mermod states that “The Federation not only offers its boats and training materials, but more importantly their coaches, physical trainers and well-rounded techniques. For example, we are working with Marc Bouet (the French reference in Match-Race) to prepare and conduct the training sessions. With Energy Team we have experience on the AC45 and AC World Series, and the Federation has experience training very skilled young sailors, at high level of performance and in various areas. This is a collaboration that can only be beneficial. Our experiences are complementary and Next World Energy’s young sailors should be able to get the most of it.”

 

It is also important to note that French National Sailing School’s (ENV) expertise together with FFVoile’s experience will be put to use in training the team. Two executives from the School will participate during these sessions. Stéphane Krause will be responsible for the physical preparation of the crew, which is particularly important as the AC45 is deemed to be extremely physical. Yves Clouet will bring his Multihull expertise to complement Marc Bouet’s contributions as coach & coordinator for FFVoile.

The next three months are going to be very intense for these young sailors as they immerse into the various aspects of the sailing world (the light, environment, competition, and the race at large), and amongst intense weather, they will also sail other boats and take part in different training sessions. The goal is to be the best prepared to represent France and compete at the highest level with the other nine youth teams from around the world. They will seek “their” America’s Cup, in the heart of the mythical San Francisco Bay, admired by sailors around the world.

 

Quotes:
Jean-Pierre Champion, President of the French Sailing Federation: “This partnership between the French Sailing Federation, the Energy Team and French Youth Team will enable this young and motivated team to benefit from preparation and coaching that meets the height of their ambitions. The French Sailing Federation fully meets its selection and training role. Next World Group’s recent commitment to this team provides an opportunity for the young crew to represent France in optimal conditions during the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup. “






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