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#201 Carboninit

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:10 AM

Groupama winward boat going up to the rock noice.Should be first to the rock as the leward boats have to harden up. Dont understand why they stayed below the layline with foul tide taking them east? Should get wind against tide soon ,that will intresting.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:26 AM

Groupama winward boat going up to the rock noice.Should be first to the rock as the leward boats have to harden up. Dont understand why they stayed below the layline with foul tide taking them east? Should get wind against tide soon ,that will intresting.

Interesting. Do you know how much tidal current there is?

Also, Puma looking good in this perspective, better than GPMA?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:30 AM

I don't see any of the "other three" having any trouble rolling in front of G4 before the rock.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:38 AM

Think G4 will round the rock first or close behind Puma due to a better angle.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:40 AM

Groupama winward boat going up to the rock noice.Should be first to the rock as the leward boats have to harden up. Dont understand why they stayed below the layline with foul tide taking them east? Should get wind against tide soon ,that will intresting.

..I agree with 'onimod'..
.....at first glimpse,,it seems the lead 4 have all been working to windward(west) of the rhumbline.,ranging 2 1/2 to 8 1/2 miles above it.
...I suppose it's a temptation for more apparent wind ,,
,,with a hope that a shift forward will help them soak back down,
but with ~40 miles to go,,that hope is diminishing ,,and you say the current will soon be upwind too?:unsure:

..with another look,,I see the rhumbline as drawn is probably a bit 'loosely-drawn' around the rock,,and puma and campah are virtually right on a tighter line,,with pooma and groupon following a track ~5 miles above it :unsure: ...I can only think they're going to pay a price to get back down........currently campa's 1/2 mi behind Tele,,with Pooma a further 1/2 mi,,,and Groupapa another ~1.2

#206 edelweis

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:49 AM

........currently campa's 1/2 mi behind Tele,,with Pooma a further 1/2 mi,,,and Groupapa another ~1.2


See Puma pretty even with Camper now.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:57 AM


........currently campa's 1/2 mi behind Tele,,with Pooma a further 1/2 mi,,,and Groupapa another ~1.2


See Puma pretty even with Camper now.

...I'd be happy if the Squid slips through! ;)

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:16 AM


Groupama winward boat going up to the rock noice.Should be first to the rock as the leward boats have to harden up. Dont understand why they stayed below the layline with foul tide taking them east? Should get wind against tide soon ,that will intresting.

Interesting. Do you know how much tidal current there is?

Also, Puma looking good in this perspective, better than GPMA?



Crookhaven
03:41 - High Tide (3.00m)
10:05 - Low Tide (0.40m)
16:10 - High Tide (3.20m)
22:31 - Low Tide (0.30m)

Galway
04:27 - High Tide (4.80m)
10:30 - Low Tide (1.10m)
16:50 - High Tide (5.20m)
22:57 - Low Tide (0.80m)

#209 edelweis

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:19 AM

Cat passed Camper and is only 240m behind Tele

#210 edelweis

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:25 AM

Puma leading!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:30 AM

in the next two hours the wind is going to ease ,this will pay for Telefonica going up to the rock.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:08 AM

Gaurantee?



in the next two hours the wind is going to ease ,this will pay for Telefonica going up to the rock.



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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

VOR confirms chopper up when rounding the rock...

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:05 AM

And Puma is now in front of Tele, 7 miles from the Fastnet rock. It's going to be close.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

Beautiful this live chopper filming round fastnet, wants me wanting to be there :)

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

And Puma is now in front of Tele, 7 miles from the Fastnet rock. It's going to be close.


The others are Farr behind

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

Fantastic the fastnet rounding live from chopper !

#218 foubarre

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

Wasn't Camper supposed to be slow in the conditions they had between Lorient and Fastnet?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

Nice helo pics of the Fastnet at : http://new.livestrea...ooceanrace/Leg9

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:01 AM

Since the Fastnet G4 is extending quite nicely from Camper, securing the first place overall.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

GPMA perfectly placed at the moment. What options exist for Camper, must they simply sail faster or is there inside/outside of some island coming up?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:08 AM

I suspect G4 is trying not to influence the battle for the minor placings which fits nicely with their preservation mode settings too.
I reckon it'd actually be pretty nerve racking knowing the only real impediment to the overall victory is boat failure.
I hope by now they have a good idea what caused the first mast to fold.
Still, no reason not to sail well in the light stuff.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:26 AM

http://www.marinetra...om=2&level1=140 Groupama for the leg win. The fleet are getting sucked in by the tide . That plays nicely to Groupama. Light airs up the Irish coast nice.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:47 AM

So just whose idea was it for the boats to finish in Galway in the early hours of the morning?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

Charles Caudrelier on Groupama predicted around 3 in the morning due to light airs.
With probably a realy interesting finish due to high cliff on the south of the bay, with south wind, so lot more to still happen !

edit : don't know what's happening with Camper, but they are actually realy slow ! around 7 to 8 knts towards 11-12 for the others !

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:51 AM

So just whose idea was it for the boats to finish in Galway in the early hours of the morning?

Timezones, weather, can't keep everyone happy.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:11 PM


So just whose idea was it for the boats to finish in Galway in the early hours of the morning?

Timezones, weather, can't keep everyone happy.


Come on- it's not like the wind is a fickle beast and can't be accurately predicted!

If I recall, the VOR site was giving an expected timeframe of 48 hours from Lorient to Galway which would have fit in perfectly with an afternoon finish for the cameras and the crowds (in that order!). At least this way the teams get to let off the hand flares on the bow!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

So just whose idea was it for the boats to finish in Galway in the early hours of the morning?


An Irishman?

But seriously, would you have preferred an additional off shore mark to lenghten the trip a bit, and make it a more confortable finish at tea time?

The guys are tired, and want this race to end ASAP.
Did you hear the tone of Andrew Cape's voice, when he said, "Quite frankly, I've had enough..." ?
http://www.teamtelef.../en/audios/270/

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:29 PM

It looks like we'll have another compression near the tip of Dursey Is.
If the tracker is accurate (enough) Puma will definitely have to tack and Tele is struggling.
It still might be close enough for Campers A4 to make the difference.
By the way - how do the Camper boys know with certainty who has what on their sail card?
I sure would like to have known and if the race committee can keep it to themselves they might as well make it public knowledge.

EDIT - I retract - Puma might squeak through and hold their lead.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:01 PM

On the tracker Puma just ran aground but must have brilliant wheels to march on that fast. Always knew that these shore-sailing guys have some guts and speed.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:33 PM

Why is G4 well placed for the leg despite being in 4th place?

Would be nice to see Camper win a leg actually.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 01:47 PM