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#1 J29thefish

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:47 PM

I have just recently purchased a MHOB J/29 and need to know how to run the checksays. I know that they plug into the mast, run into the blocks behind the stern pulpit, and then run into the cockpit. The boat came with a piece of shock cord with two blocks on the end. Is that for the check stays? How do you rig yours?



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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:36 PM

I'm sure some J/29er will be along shortly.

I'd guess the two blocks and shock cord are used to pull the check stays back & out of the way. Tie the middle of the shockcord to the back stay up high and run the checks through the blocks(?)

If it were a frac J/29, I would see runners and perhaps checks, masthead, not sure you would ever use them.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:44 PM

Take them off.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 09:18 PM

If they are check stays on the kenyon morc 4060 mast section, they should go to the tracks on the cabin house or forward part of the forward genoa track. They straighten the mast after wonking the backstay tight.
look at the forward part of the jib track here: http://www.photoboat...2f057#h3572f057
position is mentioned here: http://www.jboats.com/j29/j29tips.htm

I have just recently purchased a MHOB J/29 and need to know how to run the checksays. I know that they plug into the mast, run into the blocks behind the stern pulpit, and then run into the cockpit. The boat came with a piece of shock cord with two blocks on the end. Is that for the check stays? How do you rig yours?



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Posted 30 June 2012 - 02:41 AM

Take them off.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:34 PM

Don't take them off. Anyone telling you to take them off isn't sailing to weather worth anything. The shock cord is to pull the lazy check stay out of the way. Use three bullet blocks, one for each check stay and one on the backstay where the top of the purchase is located. Connect the two blocks on the check stays with shcok cord, ~2-3', through the block on the backstay.

DO NOT run the checkstays to the cabin top or side decks! All you will wind up doing to pulling your deck up and not straightening mast.

Was this Jay Tovey's boat?

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:02 PM

Ah yes, the one design J29.

Checks weren't stock. When did they creep onto the rig?

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 10:10 PM

Ah yes, the one design J29.

Checks weren't stock. When did they creep onto the rig?


Ah yes, the uninformed sailor.......checks WERE stock on the J29MH.

Sailman is right. DO NOT run them to the cabin top tracks.

The best way to run checks is mount a tang on the transom on either side of the rudder with blocks. The checks come down off the mast, thru your micro blocks on the bungee(attached to backstay)thru the transom blocks. From here they are led on either rail to the secondary winches on the cabintop for trimming. Checks are crucial for headstay tension in moderate to heavy air and to keep the mast from pumping. They are NOT crucial to keeping the mast intact and can be disgarded in light air.

Good luck with your new boat. You're going to love it.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:17 PM

My bad. You may be right. Perhaps they might have been led to the cabin top rather than the transom where they are more effective and obvious to feeble memoried folks like moi.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:31 AM

Take them off.

Didn't I tell you to go fuck your mother?

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:31 AM

My bad. You may be right. Perhaps they might have been led to the cabin top rather than the transom where they are more effective and obvious to feeble memoried folks like moi.

They were originally on pad eyes on the side deck, which pulled up the side decks, flexed the laminate and generally led to water intrusion. This was from a MORC rule that penalized checkstays aft of the cabin top. Some of the one off boats would put the check stays on tracks on the cabin top with shackles to release them downwind. A really poor setup since it would lock the boom if not released, rough in a panic bear away situtation.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:16 PM

thanks, yes this was The fish and it still is the fish. did you sailwith jay?

Don't take them off. Anyone telling you to take them off isn't sailing to weather worth anything. The shock cord is to pull the lazy check stay out of the way. Use three bullet blocks, one for each check stay and one on the backstay where the top of the purchase is located. Connect the two blocks on the check stays with shcok cord, ~2-3', through the block on the backstay.

DO NOT run the checkstays to the cabin top or side decks! All you will wind up doing to pulling your deck up and not straightening mast.

Was this Jay Tovey's boat?



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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

thanks, yes this was The fish and it still is the fish. did you sailwith jay?


Don't take them off. Anyone telling you to take them off isn't sailing to weather worth anything. The shock cord is to pull the lazy check stay out of the way. Use three bullet blocks, one for each check stay and one on the backstay where the top of the purchase is located. Connect the two blocks on the check stays with shcok cord, ~2-3', through the block on the backstay.

DO NOT run the checkstays to the cabin top or side decks! All you will wind up doing to pulling your deck up and not straightening mast.

Was this Jay Tovey's boat?

Jay sailed with a us a bit. He is a great guy and really good sailor. You got yourself a great boat!

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 04:25 PM

Cool thanks man


thanks, yes this was The fish and it still is the fish. did you sailwith jay?


Don't take them off. Anyone telling you to take them off isn't sailing to weather worth anything. The shock cord is to pull the lazy check stay out of the way. Use three bullet blocks, one for each check stay and one on the backstay where the top of the purchase is located. Connect the two blocks on the check stays with shcok cord, ~2-3', through the block on the backstay.

DO NOT run the checkstays to the cabin top or side decks! All you will wind up doing to pulling your deck up and not straightening mast.

Was this Jay Tovey's boat?

Jay sailed with a us a bit. He is a great guy and really good sailor. You got yourself a great boat!






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