37 replies to this topic

[NautiGirl]

god I love this country.

c'est ca.

[dreadom]

Have a good one!

[Shibby]

eh

[Timo42]

Happy Canada Day, here's an earwig for you...

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

god I love this country.

c'est ca.

We noticed

But seriously, have a good one.

[basketcase]

its a nice place.

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

its a nice place.

No question about that. And they have health care.

If I weren't an American, I'd be a good Canadian.

[Lamps]

Just finished our fireworks display here in the east end of Toronto. Happy cda day to all, and all you americans plan a nice July 4 weekend celebration, Im probably going to cross the lake to join in.

Lamps.

[tigger12]

Played for the guns this morning in Stanley Park (Mildly amusing--Canine Chaos. Someone forgot to put their dog on a leash--at the first of 21 BOOMS from the 105s, pooch booked it into the woods with the whole family in hot pursuit.) Played in the parade this evening. Big crowd. Managed to squeeze in time for a fine celebratory martini in the sun in between the events!

[Charlie Foxtrot]

Gawd, everywhere I live, there's always a bunch of drunken arsewhipes living above me. Come to find out -- it's Canada up there.

Have a beaut, eh?

[bored broker]

its a nice place to visit.

Fixed it for ya

[dreaded]

yes, you can always get ahead in Canada..

'Human head' found in Montreal park
Police in Montreal say human remains found in a park may be from a Chinese student allegedly killed by the so-called Canadian psycho.

A police source told local media the body part had been sent for testing, and it appeared to be a head.

[basketcase]

its a nice place to visit.

Fixed it for ya

no, no you did not.

[tuf-luf]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

[Plumber]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

[Shibby]

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[Shibby]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

at your age you should have gone to hospital...
xoxo

[tuf-luf]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

at your age you should have gone to hospital...
xoxo

That's where I'm going in the morning Shibs...you rat bastard.

[Silverbullet]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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[chester]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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the Fraser Institute is the opposite of nonpartisan

[Silverbullet]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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the Fraser Institute is the opposite of nonpartisan

Knowing that free-markets work doesn't make anyone/anything right-wing. Don't want to make this PA material, I'm just making a point about healthcare when the govmint is pulling the strings.

19 weeks for a referral to a specialist?

[Point Break]

Good on ya canucks. Eh?

[tuf-luf]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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19 weeks! That's outrageous.

I went from my GP to a radiologist, back to my GP and on to a referred orthopaedic surgeon in the course of 48 hours two weeks ago...and round-trip, it cost me (Aviva Insurance, actually) a grand total of 63 bucks...Singapore bucks.

I'm not the slighest bit surprised by the rate at which Canadians are fleeing to the US for medical care. New border-town industry boom I'm sure.

[chester]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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the Fraser Institute is the opposite of nonpartisan

Knowing that free-markets work doesn't make anyone/anything right-wing. Don't want to make this PA material, I'm just making a point about healthcare when the govmint is pulling the strings.

19 weeks for a referral to a specialist?

Me either so: happy canada day to all my fellow canucks and happy independence day to you yanks!

[Foolish]

We all love to complain about our health system up here, and sure it's not perfect. But, a few years ago we had a national pole to choose the Greatest Canadian Ever. The winner was Tommy Douglas - the man who started our health care system back in the depression days.
Douglas was chosen over our first Prime Minister (who virtually created the country), over General Brock who smacked the US in the War of 1812 (the war that kept us out of the US) and even over Wayne Gretzky, the greatest hockey player.

So, we ourselves chose the skinny little guy who created our health care system as the Greatest Canadian ever! That says something pretty significant.

(By the way, Tommy Douglas is Keiffer Sutherland's grandfather on his mother's side.)

[Silverbullet]

So, we ourselves chose the skinny little guy who created our health care system as the Greatest Canadian ever! That says something pretty significant.

Yes. Yes it does.

[dreaded]

So, we ourselves chose the skinny little guy who created our health care system as the Greatest Canadian ever! That says something pretty significant.

Yes. Yes it does.

yeah, it means you don't have a lot of hero's to choose from....

but y'all have produced a good number of actors and comedians and I thank you for that..

[TornadoCAN99]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...second 24 years in Singapore (and various Asian destinations).

I don't miss Canada as much as I used to - some might say that's sad...perhaps. But there are pros and cons of living just about anywhere (except maybe Syria and Nigeria).

Yesterday I needed an x-ray done on my right elbow (sailing injury, unfortunately). It took me a grand total of 15 minutes to sit in the waiting room of a radiology clinic, have my x-ray done and leave with the two exposed films in-hand...all for the staggeringly low fee of only SGD37.00 (that's US$29.00).

If I'd been asked to go and get an x-ray done by my GP in Canada I would've been waiting for weeks and weeks for an appointment and I can safely say I wouldn't be in and out of the radiology clinic in 15 mins with the x-rays in-hand.

Tomorrow, I'm seeing an orthopaedic surgeon (based on a letter of recommendation from my GP and a single phone call yesterday) and he will look at the x-rays and offer a solution (bone chip/swelling/pain) and this will probably be completely addressed by the end of the following week.

Try doing that in the Canadian (or US) healthcare system. Healthcare that is affordable, immediately accessible and patient-centric. What a great idea... eh!

Anyway...Happy Canada Day!

I spent it sailing with good friends and enjoying a couple cold ones on the dock afterwards...in Singapore.

I concur...our health system is wayyyy over rated...and bloody expensive too...

I cringe at the thought of this happening to the US...


A Canadian study released Wednesday found that many provinces in our neighbor to the North have seen patients fleeing the country and opting for medical treatment in the United States.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993.

Specialist physicians surveyed across 12 specialties and 10 provinces reported an average total wait time of 19 weeks between the time a general practitioner refers a patient and the time a specialist provides elective treatment — the longest they have ever recorded.

In 2011, Canadians enrolled in the nation's government-dominated health service waited long periods of time for an estimated 941,321 procedures. As many as 2.8 percent of Canadians were waiting for treatment at any given time, according to the Institute.

"In some cases, these patients needed to leave Canada due to a lack of available resources or a lack of appropriate procedure/technology," according to the Institute. "In others, their departure will have been driven by a desire to return more quickly to their lives, to seek out superior quality care, or perhaps to save their own lives or avoid the risk of disability."



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19 weeks! That's outrageous.

I went from my GP to a radiologist, back to my GP and on to a referred orthopaedic surgeon in the course of 48 hours two weeks ago...and round-trip, it cost me (Aviva Insurance, actually) a grand total of 63 bucks...Singapore bucks.

I'm not the slighest bit surprised by the rate at which Canadians are fleeing to the US for medical care. New border-town industry boom I'm sure.

So how long is the wait for elective treatment in the USA for someone who can't afford it?

[Merrill Levi]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...

huh?? - and all this time I thought you wuz an Aussie - Tuffie a Canuckastani - go figure

you talk (write) like an Aussie, drink like an Aussie, work like a ......... hang on - this is not going to work is it?

carry on.

ML

ps - your description of the Singapore medical system sounds more like German efficiency .....used to be =)


pps - can Canada go back to work now please! am awaiting for an install to finish in Toronto town.

[tuf-luf]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...

huh?? - and all this time I thought you wuz an Aussie - Tuffie a Canuckastani - go figure

you talk (write) like an Aussie, drink like an Aussie, work like a ......... hang on - this is not going to work is it?

carry on.

ML

ps - your description of the Singapore medical system sounds more like German efficiency .....used to be =)


pps - can Canada go back to work now please! am awaiting for an install to finish in Toronto town.

LOL!! Too funny Merrill.

I obviously have way too many Aussie sailing friends. Sometimes you pricks outnumber all other nationalities on my deck. It's a good thing I suppose but the quality of decorum does slide considerably...and some of it sticks with me.

Sorry to lead you astray...mate.

[punter]

I have now lived half of my life outside Canada.

First 24 years in Canada...

huh?? - and all this time I thought you wuz an Aussie - Tuffie a Canuckastani - go figure

you talk (write) like an Aussie, drink like an Aussie, work like a ......... hang on - this is not going to work is it?

carry on.

ML

ps - your description of the Singapore medical system sounds more like German efficiency .....used to be =)


pps - can Canada go back to work now please! am awaiting for an install to finish in Toronto town.

LOL!! Too funny Merrill.

I obviously have way too many Aussie sailing friends. Sometimes you pricks outnumber all other nationalities on my deck. It's a good thing I suppose but the quality of decorum does slide considerably...and some of it sticks with me.

Sorry to lead you astray...mate.

Back up the horse up a bit, you got your maths wrong according to the last birthday wishes

And yes, we Aussie sailors have been "re-educating" Tuffie for quite a while now, hahaha.

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

So how long is the wait for elective treatment in the USA for someone who can't afford it?

From today's New York Times:

Although clinics for the poor provide basic care to a constant stream of uninsured patients, those who need more complicated tests or procedures are often out of luck.

Dr. Edwin Bosa-Osorio, chief medical officer at Jessie Trice Community Health Center, which serves several poor neighborhoods in the Miami area, said it can take more than a year for his patients to get diagnostic tests or consultations even at Jackson, the safety-net hospital system, because it is so overburdened.

As a result, Dr. Bosa-Osorio said, the center’s doctors too often have to take “the Plan B approach to a condition.”

For Tracy Similien, a 22-year-old student who injured her hip in a fall several years ago and still has frequent searing pain, that means relying on Tylenol instead of seeing an orthopedist or neurologist.

Fatima Zafar, Ms. Similien’s primary care doctor at Jessie Trice, said another of her patients has uterine fibroids that make her anemic and weak. She needs a hysterectomy, Dr. Zafar said, but is on a waiting list for it at Jackson. About 23 percent of Jessie Trice patients have Medicaid and can thus be referred to other hospitals that offer quicker appointments; most of the rest are uninsured. “You feel very limited in your scope,” Dr. Zafar said.

[kent_island_sailor]

Canada = C grade health care for all
USA = A grade for rich people, B grade for people with nice insurance, and F- for poor people with chronic issues.

[Tucky]

Canada = C grade health care for all
USA = A grade for rich people and government employees, B grade for people with nice insurance, and F- for poor people with chronic issues.

All government employees aren't rich, yet- at least until retirement.

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

Canada = C grade health care for all
USA = A grade for rich people , B grade for people with nice insurance and government employees, and F- for poor people with chronic issues.

All government employees aren't rich, yet- at least until retirement.

Fixed it for you. You don't get concierge medicine, easy access to experimental procedures, or treatment by the top docs at the top medical centers as a government benefit. Copays and deductibles are a bit less, but so is your base salary. Moe Alpha, you want to step in here?

[kent_island_sailor]

WTF- I am a fed gov employee and I sure as hell didn't notice getting A grade health care/insurance. I had better insurance for less money as a contractor. Where do people get this stuff?
As for "rich when I retire" - a double WTF! That plan was LONG GONE when I got hired if you count a decent retirement as being rich.

[Delta Blues]

This thread needs some hot Canadian Chicks

[Foolish]

The one incident that bothered me most about the US system was that a doctor can say that he does not accept a particular insurance. The husband of a friend was in a motorcycle accident. My friend works for a city and has Blue Cross Insurance - a major company. While the man was on the table, the doctor told my friend "I don't accept Blue Cross" So they were on the hook for $90k for the medical bills?????

I just don't understand this. They had insurance from a major company and were still out $90k.

In Canada this man would have gotten immediate care that was every bit as good as in the US, and it would have cost him nothing. I'll correct this. He might not have gotten some very expensive things like an immediate CAT scan.

The other thing is that the US insurance companies negotiate reduced payment rates with doctors. So if you don't have insurance, you pay MORE than if you have insurance? This seems counterintuitive.

In Canada, the Provinces negotiate all of the fees with the doctors. Everything from a checkup to open heart surgery. All doctors are paid the same amount for every procedure.