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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:38 AM

RadioNZ just announced TNZ is having launch event on Saturday.

Edit: http://etnzblog.com/#!2012/07/big-night-in-auckland-with-the-big-cat

Grant Dalton admires the Emirates Team New Zealand AC72

Emirates Team New Zealand will reveal its AC72 catamaran at a public event at Viaduct Harbour on Saturday, July 21

The team is promising a spectacular “launch day” for the big catamaran which another step forward in the team’s campaign to win the 2013 America’s Cup at San Francisco.

Team managing director Grant Dalton says July 21 will be a big day for the team. “We have been working towards the day for 18 months. Until now we have said very little about the AC72 project and we have shown even less.

“The design team of more than 30 people has been working since the end of 2010. The build team started in August last year. The AC72i represents more than 50 man-years of design time and 65,000 hours of build time.

“The design and build work has gone ahead behind closed doors. Now it’s time to share their creation with New Zealand.

“The team will be celebrating and we invite people to celebrate with us. He said the July 21 show is free to the public. “People will have great views from the Halsey Street wharf, from public areas around the Viaduct Events Centre and from the area around the lifting bridge.

“The action takes place on the water bounded by the Halsey Street wharf and the bridge.”

He urges people to arrive at the Viaduct by 5.30pm. “The first few hundred will have the opportunity to be part of the launch crew. The show will get underway by 5.45pm.”

Should the weather refuse to cooperate on the Saturday July 21, the show will go on the following day, Sunday July 22.



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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:52 AM

"The design and build work has gone ahead behind closed doors. Now it's time to share their creation with New Zealand."


EDIT: And the rest of the world. Posted Image

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:57 AM

“The first few hundred will have the opportunity to be part of the launch crew. The show will get underway by 5.45pm.”


well, there's your crane

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:05 AM

The AC72i represents more than 50 man-years of design time


I wonder how long a man year is considering

We have been working towards the day for 18 months



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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:10 AM

34 staff * 18mths = 612 man months = 51 man years.

I'm sure there is a man-trol joke in there somewhere but I seem to have lost it.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:40 AM

RadioNZ just announced TNZ is having launch event on Saturday.

Edit: http://etnzblog.com/...ith-the-big-cat

Grant Dalton admires the Emirates Team New Zealand AC72


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Sweet photo!

Aside from GD's admirable (admiring) reflection, is this right?

The other hull is reflected too - see the Camper logo backwards mirroring the one behind GD

The big beam behind him is also reflected, some tramp behind that, and the rear beam beyond that.. and the rear beam - it isn't a two-pieces in-parallel one-above-the-other arrangement, is it? Wow, if so...

And ~possibly~ a large center spine, above the reflected hull.

Clean shop, very nice paint too.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:06 PM

is there anywhere that we could watch the launch online?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:31 PM

Last minute musing: drum cassette rudders? Wouldn't work with T-rudders but what's the alternative, really?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:45 PM


RadioNZ just announced TNZ is having launch event on Saturday.

Edit: http://etnzblog.com/...ith-the-big-cat

Grant Dalton admires the Emirates Team New Zealand AC72


Posted Image
Sweet photo!

Aside from GD's admirable (admiring) reflection, is this right?

The other hull is reflected too - see the Camper logo backwards mirroring the one behind GD

The big beam behind him is also reflected, some tramp behind that, and the rear beam beyond that.. and the rear beam - it isn't a two-pieces in-parallel one-above-the-other arrangement, is it? Wow, if so...

And ~possibly~ a large center spine, above the reflected hull.

Clean shop, very nice paint too.



Killer! I'm freakin excited... leave it to the Kiwis to beat us Yanks to the water with the new AC generation boat... bet they are proud as hell about that.:)

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

[quote name='~Stingray~' timestamp='1342179630' post='3784871']
Posted Image
Sweet photo!

Aside from GD's admirable (admiring) reflection, is this right?

The other hull is reflected too - see the Camper logo backwards mirroring the one behind GD

The big beam behind him is also reflected, some tramp behind that, and the rear beam beyond that.. and the rear beam - it isn't a two-pieces in-parallel one-above-the-other arrangement, is it? Wow, if so...

And ~possibly~ a large center spine, above the reflected hull.

Clean shop, very nice paint too.
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Difficult to decipher but yes I think I see a 'third beam' back there.

And if you care to go back to the very first picture of the shrink-wrapped hull you'll find that I pointed out at the time - up to 4 beam attachment points.

The rear beam looks to be lower and behind the one that appears to support the aft edge of the white tramp, rather than parallel - at least to my eye.

The 'tramp' does not appear to extend full width either - any ideas?


[quote name='hoom' timestamp='1342161495' post='3784750']
RadioNZ just announced TNZ is having launch event on Saturday.
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Thanks for 'breaking the thread' Hoom, where we have been discussing this for months/years.Posted Image

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

^^
You guys are good.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

Plenty of goodies in that photo!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

Plenty of goodies in that photo!


Do tell Obiwan.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:39 PM

Nav, anyone, am squinting at a small-screen now but

It does look like a third beam back there, and not vertically parallel as i first suggested, its reflection starting at the top of his right ear, agreed. And if your 'four possible attachment points' suggestion from back-when is correct, then there may be a beam f'ward of GD, 'behind' us. Is there a rule against > 2 xbeams?

The 'far side of' the tramp may just be obscured by GD's arm position, it likely does go full-width.

No suggestion of centered grinding stations in what we (think we can) see so far, which also corroborates what LR's Erickson suggested in Newport during the Sailing World video interview w Streuli.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 09:57 PM

Nav, anyone, am squinting at a small-screen now but

It does look like a third beam back there, and not vertically parallel as i first suggested, its reflection starting at the top of his right ear, agreed. And if your 'four possible attachment points' suggestion from back-when is correct, then there may be a beam f'ward of GD, 'behind' us. Is there a rule against > 2 xbeams?

The 'far side of' the tramp may just be obscured by GD's arm position, it likely does go full-width.

No suggestion of centered grinding stations in what we (think we can) see so far, which also corroborates what LR's Erickson suggested in Newport during the Sailing World video interview w Streuli.


Tramps can be made of all sorts of 'stuff' I guess and may well be almost invisible in the reflection. There is a small section of black tarp (you have no hope on a small screen) which appears to follow the 'slope' of the tramp between the rear two beams.

The platform is in the bloody wing tent! WTF
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And did you catch the drunk painter who has just slid to the bottom of the ladder? I bet GD kicked his/her arsePosted Image

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:02 PM

I ~did~ notice that figure too! Lol

By the way a couple of tent-frame lines reflected, I thought when looking earlier that the hull may have a narrow horizontal 'dimple' running forward/backward at about half height; can't point to it right now. edit, okay maybe not but in looking closely again, the GD side tramp is hidden not by his arm, but by the beam just behind him.

Something else, carbon black, looks like it could be a beam or a temporary spine support, has its end-face reflected in the shot too, GD's thumb almost touching where it reflects.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:25 PM

Wait, is that photo shopped? The the hair in GD's left ear is usually visible!

C'mon Clean, that has to be FP material? :)

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:43 PM

I know you're going to post an annotated version any minute.

Did you catch my edit above, to the effect that the platform is actually in the wing tent!

I've been looking in the wrong direction!Posted Image

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 10:53 PM

^ Lol, you're correcting ypuself all over the place today :) Again, good onya!

This launch is going to be seriously cool. I hope like someone above asked, that we will all get to see it live somehow. It looks ferkin fast even standing still!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:25 PM

^ Lol, you're correcting ypuself all over the place today :) Again, good onya!

This launch is going to be seriously cool. I hope like someone above asked, that we will all get to see it live somehow. It looks ferkin fast even standing still!


Yep - and I'm going to do it again. We can see the double stacked containers that make up the walls of the wing tent - that's what got me thinking that must be where this shot was taken.

BUT...although we can't see them from the outside I guess that is probably how the platform tent is assembled as well. Workshop containers, expresso bar etc around the outside.

The wing tent isn't wide enough for the platform anyway as far as I know - so just talking rubbish.
Plus I reckon you can see the hulls through the end of the platform tent now - when it's lit properly.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:30 PM

+1

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:32 PM

Where are the sl33s?

When does Luna Rossa plan to launch?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:45 PM

Where are the sl33s?

When does Luna Rossa plan to launch?


A prudent person might allow the Kiwis a few of their allotted 30 days to prove their technology (for which you have paid dearly!) That would allow for 'adjustments' to be made before your launch.
Are Italians prudent though in general?

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:51 PM

^ Bertelli shows no sign of being prudent so far. Prada will come at this very hard.

Artemis is the most scary to me, so far. TT is apparently a heavy hitter.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 12:24 AM

just noticed the top photos are different to the bottom photos because the bottom photo is more clear in the reflection of GD shirt.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:13 AM

Clean shop, very nice paint too.

Previous TNZ yachts had a matte finish from wet-sanding with 1200 grit (or finer) to supposedly reduce wetted surface friction.

This beauty retains her clear-coat gloss.

I like her.

Last night I stepped aboard the new chase boat and fired up her quad 300HP Yamahas. A megawatt* of electronic-shift propulsion at my finger tips. Vvvrrrrrrrooommm.

I like her very much.

The pneumatic, shock-absorbing straddle seats are a nice touch. She's missing an anchor windlass and drink holders. Fortunately those are easily-solved problems.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:52 AM



<<Dean Barker reports on progress assembling the AC72 cat at the Emirates Team New Zealand Viaduct Harbour base. The shore crew is working hard to make sure the big cat is ready for the "reveal" at the Viaduct Harbour next Saturday, July 21.

(read on)>>


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

^^ I hope this will help cure your TEARS by next weekend......................................:P

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:00 PM

^ Dean calls it 'The Monster.'

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:07 PM

^^ I hope this will help cure your TEARS by next weekend......................................:P

Cure? TEARS is incurable, but the this ^^ may work as a surrogate drug.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:51 PM

^ Dean calls it 'The Monster.'

Exact quote is

"It's going to be a Monster."

DB doesn't reveal much aside from that everyone is very busy, was sure careful with opening, filling, blocking, closing that door, quite funny.

But the takeaway for me is a reminder of how willing and good he actually is, at speaking patiently, unscripted and articulately. He did very well in the recent Streuli interview too. But there's for sure a revealing glint in his eye, it's going to be a very serious weapon of a boat - you can just tell already.

On the GD photo, love the guy, but it's possible that the photographer - being as aware of reflections as he would be - took a shot a little more revealing than what GD intended or realized while posing :) probably thought he would be centered, the subject, instead of all the porn in the paint; or maybe he did realize and let us have the sneak peek anyway - good either way.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:12 PM


^ Dean calls it 'The Monster.'

Exact quote is

"It's going to be a Monster."

DB doesn't reveal much aside from that everyone is very busy, was sure careful with opening, filling, blocking, closing that door, quite funny.

But the takeaway for me is a reminder of how willing and good he actually is, at speaking patiently, unscripted and articulately. He did very well in the recent Streuli interview too. But there's for sure a revealing glint in his eye, it's going to be a very serious weapon of a boat - you can just tell already.

On the GD photo, love the guy, but it's possible that the photographer - being as aware of reflections as he would be - took a shot a little more revealing than what GD intended or realized while posing :) probably thought he would be centered, the subject, instead of all the porn in the paint; or maybe he did realize and let us have the sneak peek anyway - good either way.


What happened to all our resident experts who love to analyse all things nautical? Not interested in the next generation AC boats?

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What's that next to his index finger? Are those two fore and aft beams either side of his forearm?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:25 PM



^ Dean calls it 'The Monster.'

Exact quote is

"It's going to be a Monster."

DB doesn't reveal much aside from that everyone is very busy, was sure careful with opening, filling, blocking, closing that door, quite funny.

But the takeaway for me is a reminder of how willing and good he actually is, at speaking patiently, unscripted and articulately. He did very well in the recent Streuli interview too. But there's for sure a revealing glint in his eye, it's going to be a very serious weapon of a boat - you can just tell already.

On the GD photo, love the guy, but it's possible that the photographer - being as aware of reflections as he would be - took a shot a little more revealing than what GD intended or realized while posing :) probably thought he would be centered, the subject, instead of all the porn in the paint; or maybe he did realize and let us have the sneak peek anyway - good either way.


What happened to all our resident experts who love to analyse all things nautical? Not interested in the next generation AC boats?

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What's that next to his index finger? Are those two fore and aft beams either side of his forearm?


All over in train anarchy.:)

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:30 PM

^ Hard to tell what that piece is, left of his index finger. It sure looks carbon-black but it may just be something suspended from the ceiling, perhaps a beam intended for lifting. Any beam forward of this position would not be reflected.

Am increasingly convinced (but wouldn't bet on it) that we can see a third beam; the tramp runs from the foreground beam back to that one, but not to the rearmost beam. At this moment in time anyway.. There is stuff laying on the tramp alongside the mystery beam if that's what is is, that may suggest the tramp installation is continuing. You'd think a tramp all the way back would be necessary for helms crossing the boat but to get extreme you might forgo it to save wind resistance and make them tightrope the beam instead.

Still very curious if the boat will have helm wheel(s) or not. We could even see a centered one. edit, if I ~had~ to bet, I would guess wheels, two of them, DZ style.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 09:56 PM

^ Hard to tell what that piece is, left of his index finger. It sure looks carbon-black but it may just be something suspended from the ceiling, perhaps a beam intended for lifting. Any beam forward of this position would not be reflected.

Am increasingly convinced (but wouldn't bet on it) that we can see a third beam; the tramp runs from the foreground beam back to that one, but not to the rearmost beam. At this moment in time anyway.. There is stuff laying on the tramp alongside the mystery beam if that's what is is, that may suggest the tramp installation is continuing. You'd think a tramp all the way back would be necessary for helms crossing the boat but to get extreme you might forgo it to save wind resistance and make them tightrope the beam instead.

Still very curious if the boat will have helm wheel(s) or not. We could even see a centered one. edit, if I ~had~ to bet, I would guess wheels, two of them, DZ style.


Yeah the three cross beams are 'clear enough' in that shot - I guess you don't see the two fore and aft beams I imagine between the forward and middle crossbeams then? The white square 'tramp' does not appear to extend to either hull or to the rear beam, as you say - but it seems to 'finish' at a beam running fore and aft on either side of it. I think I make out less visible tramps running further outboard and to the rear beam.

The white square thing could be a paint sheet or just about anything for that matter - same goes for most of the other shapes which are really just seen in relief.

No reason for the helms to be right at the rear is there?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

Am on a teeny screen again but yes, we should do some blow-ups and arrows. Still a week to go, could be cool to come close from even that photo :)

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:03 PM

Am on a teeny screen again but yes, we should do some blow-ups and arrows. Still a week to go, could be cool to come close from even that photo :)


Circles and arrows, yeah - always good. Deleting the tent bracing would help too.Posted Image

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:06 PM

Back in AC33 BOR pretty much upstaged Alinghi's launch with one of DZ's major developments, Alinghi complained at the time. If that philosophy prevails (launch developments as soon as we're ready, screw the other guys if it's simultaneous) then.. ? ORTU must surely be getting close too, they may not project it this far ahead of time. DZ's first door opening was a shock-surprise, only hours of warning hints.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:27 PM

Back in AC33 BOR pretty much upstaged Alinghi's launch with one of DZ's major developments, Alinghi complained at the time. If that philosophy prevails (launch developments as soon as we're ready, screw the other guys if it's simultaneous) then.. ? ORTU must surely be getting close too, they may not project it this far ahead of time. DZ's first door opening was a shock-surprise too, only hours of warning hints.


In the coverage in the last few days generated mainly by ETNZs coming launch, the OTUSA launch has been stated as being due in both Summer and Autumn!

Whichever is correct I'm sure they have no interest in overshadowing ETNZ. They are too interested in generating publicity for the event/s as a whole to play any games at this stage.

Viaduct webcam seems to be 'stuck' at around 06:30 http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:32 PM

Just to add to that thought, LR may not be too far behind ETNZ. Erickson (was it?) from LR suggested that > 30 are already in Auckland, why be there already?

TH from Newport in ACU 47 said their boat was basically ready and waiting for the wing; that could happen soon too - my guess is on the Bay out of Alameda.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:40 PM

Whichever is correct I'm sure they have no interest in overshadowing ETNZ. They are too interested in generating publicity for the event/s as a whole to play any games at this stage.

But that assumes the 'they' are ORTU, and assumes ORTU would give a damn about publicity for ETNZ.

Me, I'm not so sure about that. I doubt 'they' are much concerned about ACEA's concerns either; as much as any team, for example, they post much of their news independently to FB instead of to the AC.com site.

ACEA seems to struggle to herd the cat teams news-wise, including OR.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:50 PM


Whichever is correct I'm sure they have no interest in overshadowing ETNZ. They are too interested in generating publicity for the event/s as a whole to play any games at this stage.

But that assumes the 'they' are ORTU, and assumes ORTU would give a damn about publicity for ETNZ.

Me, I'm not so sure about that. I doubt 'they' are much concerned about ACEA's concerns either; as much as any team, for example, they post much of their news independently to FB instead of to the AC.com site.

ACEA seems to struggle to herd the cat teams news-wise, including OR.


It's not publicity for NZ I was referring to but publicity for the AC Circus in general. There are now a fairly limited number of opportunities left for that, with only 4 events due in the 2012/2013 ACWS calendar then then LVC and the AC (4 of 6 in SF). SF needs a wake up call if this is going to be more than a bunch of tents on a parking lot (that's still an AC though). And internationally, trying to get other countries enthusiastic may be more limited now that things are centring more on SF. So this is a great chance to generate some positive PR from outside the US. I think OTUSA realise that this is still seen very much as their - and specifically Larry's baby, with ACRM just doing the donkey work.

Timing - get it launched before the Olympics start for the PR - and then 'hide behind the Olympic white-out' while you train?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:16 PM

Agreed, there must be an element to that. ORTU and SF and probably all teams' interests do collude that way. Perhaps ORTU will keep their pants up for now.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:41 AM

Played Photoshop around, more contrast, sharpen and so on. Looks like the (double) central beams are lifted and then there is the central higher platform (for winches, crew, steering?) and the after beam (s) are flat (which seems a little odd imo, but there you are. The arched then central area will be to lift striker area up. But I know nothing, just peering around. What do you see?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:48 AM

Here's more, really screwing around with contrast and brightness.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 01:57 AM

Do you guys work for the FBI on the side? Haha.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:13 AM

Played Photoshop around, more contrast, sharpen and so on. Looks like the (double) central beams are lifted and then there is the central higher platform (for winches, crew, steering?) and the after beam (s) are flat (which seems a little odd imo, but there you are. The arched then central area will be to lift striker area up. But I know nothing, just peering around. What do you see?


i think its just a pit and/or jib winche platform, like cheyenne

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:37 AM

Hope there is a large NEW ZEALAND on the bow or something. The new Zealand on the ac45 was stupid and lost in that horrid paint fade.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:43 AM

Viaduct webcam seems to be 'stuck' at around 06:30 http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2


Now that you mention it, the Viaduct webcam has been non-responsive for me for a couple weeks or more. On a MacBook Pro with up-to-date operating system I've been unable to load the webcam with Safari or Camino. Firefox worked for a few days but it now refuses to load too.

Au secours! Is this a Mac problem or what?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:54 AM


Viaduct webcam seems to be 'stuck' at around 06:30 http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2


Now that you mention it, the Viaduct webcam has been non-responsive for me for a couple weeks or more. On a MacBook Pro with up-to-date operating system I've been unable to load the webcam with Safari or Camino. Firefox worked for a few days but it now refuses to load too.

Au secours! Is this a Mac problem or what?


i just keep refreshing it until it works, and it usually does

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:19 AM

Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:27 AM

Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?


it better be somewhere

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 01:39 PM

So, Emirates does not fly ?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:53 PM

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What's that next to his index finger? Are those two fore and aft beams either side of his forearm?


Traveler track for an auto tacking jib.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

^ Good one! Makes me wonder if that 'middle beam' we think we can make out, has a track too but for the wing?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:02 PM


Viaduct webcam seems to be 'stuck' at around 06:30 http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2


Now that you mention it, the Viaduct webcam has been non-responsive for me for a couple weeks or more. On a MacBook Pro with up-to-date operating system I've been unable to load the webcam with Safari or Camino. Firefox worked for a few days but it now refuses to load too.

Au secours! Is this a Mac problem or what?


Yep, just you I think, as I have been looking most days, no problem. Yesterday it seemed stuck, good again now - but night time! There's no 'replay' of the day before unfortunately.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:10 PM


Posted Image


What's that next to his index finger? Are those two fore and aft beams either side of his forearm?


Traveler track for an auto tacking jib.


Yeah that looks highly likely. In the nice enlargement Coxcreek did you can see the typical curve for such a track.

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The three beams are just normal cross beams I reckon SR (with the aft one lower for some reason). There may be another forward out of sight, though that would be 'unusual'.

I realise now that my description of two 'fore and aft beams' could have been clearer.

I did not mean a forward beam and another further aft - I meant two beams that run fore and aft (so parallel to the hulls). I still see them on either side of the 'white tramp' running from the beam that will support the wing to the one behind it, creating that raised central area.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

Hope there is a large NEW ZEALAND on the bow or something. The new Zealand on the ac45 was stupid and lost in that horrid paint fade.


Did you note the New Zealand 'under' the chase boat? Seems to be a pattern.
At least this is 100% clearer than before though.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:15 PM


Played Photoshop around, more contrast, sharpen and so on. Looks like the (double) central beams are lifted and then there is the central higher platform (for winches, crew, steering?) and the after beam (s) are flat (which seems a little odd imo, but there you are. The arched then central area will be to lift striker area up. But I know nothing, just peering around. What do you see?


i think its just a pit and/or jib winche platform, like cheyenne


This object appears to be in front of the beam though. I think F18 VB is right - traveller track. That'll leave at least one crew free to serve espressos!

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:31 PM


Hope there is a large NEW ZEALAND on the bow or something. The new Zealand on the ac45 was stupid and lost in that horrid paint fade.


Did you note the New Zealand 'under' the chase boat? Seems to be a pattern.
At least this is 100% clearer than before though.


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Yeah noticed that one of course, I hope it comes through clear on the new boat but I hate that font. Its UGLY man.

The best looking ac45 was the original Team NZ one, the full on black with flag on bow I reckon. The wing was O for Orsum.

By NEW ZEALAND on the bow I meant like the old V5 yachts as seen in images below



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:02 PM



Hope there is a large NEW ZEALAND on the bow or something. The new Zealand on the ac45 was stupid and lost in that horrid paint fade.


Did you note the New Zealand 'under' the chase boat? Seems to be a pattern.
At least this is 100% clearer than before though.


Posted Image




Yeah noticed that one of course, I hope it comes through clear on the new boat but I hate that font. Its UGLY man.

The best looking ac45 was the original Team NZ one, the full on black with flag on bow I reckon. The wing was O for Orsum.

By NEW ZEALAND on the bow I meant like the old V5 yachts as seen in images below


Looks are important - but give me an ugly boat and a container full of spare parts any day!




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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:07 PM

I suppose the NZ font is debatable but the lines of that chase boat are awesome, it just oozes hot cool.

I wonder what the price tag on that was - must surely be into the mid $100K's at least.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

I think the engines alone will be around $100k.
Total price for a full carbon 50ft cat-rib will be closer to $300k+ IMHO.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:31 PM

I think the engines alone will be around $100k.
Total price for a full carbon 50ft cat-rib will be closer to $300k+ IMHO.


Then double it for NZpesos!

Trucks arriving....http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2 "Parcel for....Jean Parker?"

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:48 AM


I think the engines alone will be around $100k.
Total price for a full carbon 50ft cat-rib will be closer to $300k+ IMHO.


Then double it for NZpesos!

Trucks arriving....http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2 "Parcel for....Jean Parker?"


The NZ pesos are nearly 1:1 with the US Yuan..

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:50 AM

1 United States Dollar = 1.25582 New Zealand Dollar

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:38 AM

Don't confuse them with the facts, they have other issues to work on.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:56 AM

the etnz blog says the launch will be live streamed on the on the blog from 5:30

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:08 AM

NZL time?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:20 AM

NZL time?


yup, thats when the launch is, i guess

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:31 AM



I think the engines alone will be around $100k.
Total price for a full carbon 50ft cat-rib will be closer to $300k+ IMHO.


Then double it for NZpesos!

Trucks arriving....http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2 "Parcel for....Jean Parker?"


The NZ pesos are nearly 1:1 with the US Yuan..


The kiwi is getting their $$ mixed up with the more valuable AUD... Should have joined when you had the chance Island Buddies!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:04 AM

1342390034[/url]' post='3786941']
I suppose the NZ font is debatable but the lines of that chase boat are awesome, it just oozes hot cool.

I wonder what the price tag on that was - must surely be into the mid $100K's at least.


Totally the lines on it are killer. Plus all those outboards. Whaka Yeah!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:50 AM

The kiwi is getting their $ mixed up with the more valuable AUD... Should have joined when you had the chance Island Buddies!


what and have the australian central bank runnin g high interest rates to cool the economy when ours has already crashed?

has the euro debacle taught you nothing?




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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:08 PM

The Australian Reserve bank means nothing. The Banks don't have to, and therefore don't act according to the Reserve Bank interest rates. Rates get cut, banks stay firm on loans but cut the cash investment rates..

Anyway.. Maybe our new carbon tax is a way to get the Miners into Sailing... Offset their carbon footprint with racing sailboats not motorbikes or cars..:P

Back to the usual TNZ love fest.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:18 PM



I think the engines alone will be around $100k.
Total price for a full carbon 50ft cat-rib will be closer to $300k+ IMHO.


Then double it for NZpesos!

Trucks arriving....http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2 "Parcel for....Jean Parker?"


The NZ pesos are nearly 1:1 with the US Yuan..


Quite possibly your best post, ever.


NZL time?


yup, thats when the launch is, i guess



Why don't they cater to us, and state times in American?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:48 PM

A boat AND wing CIC, a team made up of nationals, pure focus on the AC as it should be... Love the fukin Kiwis!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:03 PM

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:15 PM


Cat chase boat ready for its debut on Saturday

POSTED ON 16 JULY 2012

Emirates Team New Zealand has taken delivery of the catamaran chase boat big and powerful enough to manage the AC72's on-the-water operations.

When the yacht can reach speeds of 40 knots, the chase boat has to be nimble, stable and easy on the people who have to work on it........ http://www.americasc...12/7/Cat-chase/Posted Image

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:36 PM

Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.




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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:38 PM

A boat AND wing CIC, a team made up of nationals, pure focus on the AC as it should be... Love the fukin Kiwis!


the wing trimmer is a west islander

but he seems a decent onePosted Image




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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:54 PM


A boat AND wing CIC, a team made up of nationals, pure focus on the AC as it should be... Love the fukin Kiwis!


the wing trimmer is a west islander

but he seems a decent onePosted Image





Ooops my mistake... bring on TK...

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:57 PM


When the yacht can reach speeds of 40 knots, the chase boat has to be nimble, stable and easy on the people who have to work on it........ http://www.americasc...12/7/Cat-chase/


^^ I hope they realize it wont be possible if the water is not flat, and I don't think the SF bay will be calm enough.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:14 PM


Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Excellent

Will be 10:30pm Friday on the US West coast

Maybe this link will help others too
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:20 PM

^
Thanks for doing the math.
I wouldn't be surprised if it goes in the water the day or night before just to elimainate any possibility of a launch fubar on live TV,

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:35 PM

Yep, possible they will practice at least the lights, maybe some crane work too.

Way OT but will probably remember this week as a marker of this too:

Deep Purple's Jon Lord Dies at Age 71

http://m.nbcbayarea....ntguid=iHsaZu9u

He has good honky tonk riffs at the end of My Woman from Tokyo, but more importantly co-wrote Smoke On The Water! :)

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:14 AM

Yep, possible they will practice at least the lights, maybe some crane work too.

Way OT but will probably remember this week as a marker of this too:

Deep Purple's Jon Lord Dies at Age 71

http://m.nbcbayarea....ntguid=iHsaZu9u

He has good honky tonk riffs at the end of My Woman from Tokyo, but more importantly co-wrote Smoke On The Water! :)


I have a long video of the younger daughter dancing like a maniac, doing circles on one leg to the long organ solo at the beginning of 'Lazy', and then through the rest of the song. She was about 2 yo at the time.

My fave from that album is 'Highway Star'. Break a lot of speed limits when that one is playing in the car. Great keyboard solo in that one too.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:18 AM



When the yacht can reach speeds of 40 knots, the chase boat has to be nimble, stable and easy on the people who have to work on it........ http://www.americasc...12/7/Cat-chase/


^^ I hope they realize it wont be possible if the water is not flat, and I don't think the SF bay will be calm enough.


You're totally right- I bet that the designers forgot that waves existed and didn't take them into consideration. ... ... Do you REALLY believe the total bill shit you're writing?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:21 AM



When the yacht can reach speeds of 40 knots, the chase boat has to be nimble, stable and easy on the people who have to work on it........ http://www.americasc...12/7/Cat-chase/


^^ I hope they realize it wont be possible if the water is not flat, and I don't think the SF bay will be calm enough.


The designers are quite familiar with the bay

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:09 AM

The chase boat was out this afternoon up past the bridge.
Very smooth, doing lots of turns etc.
When it came back no sign of spray on deck etc.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:15 AM


Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Will be an early saturday morning for us europeans.
7:30am CEST :(

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:15 AM

They have a crane! http://www.takeabrea...-city.asp?cam=2

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:14 PM



Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Will be an early saturday morning for us europeans.
7:30am CEST :(



2:30 am for us US east coasters.............................B)

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:44 PM




Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Will be an early saturday morning for us europeans.
7:30am CEST :(



2:30 am for us US east coasters.............................B)


I think that is 1:30 am. EDT is 16 hours behind New Zealand.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:53 PM





Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Will be an early saturday morning for us europeans.
7:30am CEST :(



2:30 am for us US east coasters.............................B)


I think that is 1:30 am. EDT is 16 hours behind New Zealand.


So 10:30 pacific time out here on the left coast. Will definitely be up to watch that! B)

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:09 PM




Saturday=Caturday!
Will it be streamed live?




The show will be streamed live on the team's blog http://www.etnzblog.com from 5.30pm. Saturday July 21.



Will be an early saturday morning for us europeans.
7:30am CEST :(



2:30 am for us US east coasters.............................B)



Stingray, were you going to send out a meeting request so this is automatically on our calendars in the right times around the globe???? WTF?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:14 PM

NZL is UTC+12

EDT = UTC-4
PDT = UTC-7
BST = UTC+1
CEST = UTC+2

I think I'll be here anyway and looking forward to seeing you then.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:14 PM



When the yacht can reach speeds of 40 knots, the chase boat has to be nimble, stable and easy on the people who have to work on it........ http://www.americasc...12/7/Cat-chase/


^^ I hope they realize it wont be possible if the water is not flat, and I don't think the SF bay will be calm enough.


You can run a 28 protector in SF bay at 40 knots with 1/3 the horsepower and still be comfortable. I'm sure that cat will have no issues. Entry looked fine enough to punch through anything in it's way.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:22 PM

Wing is out in the open today. Someone run down and get a snap!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:30 PM

Wing is out in the open today. Someone run down and get a snap!


That it leaning on the Winyard cam?

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:51 PM


Wing is out in the open today. Someone run down and get a snap!


That it leaning on the Winyard cam?


I see a crane - but hell it's still dark there! At 06:10 there is a bit more action, gone quite now
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