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#1 HardOnWind

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

According to U.S. Navy estimates, the use of high frequency underwater sound for testing in Hawaii, the California and Atlantic Coasts, and the Gulf of Mexico will deafen more than 15,900 whales and dolphins and kill 1,800 more over the next 5 years. Whales and dolphins depend on sound to navigate and live. Your signature and comment could stop this Naval program, potentially saving the lives of these ocean creatures.



#2 benwynn

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:07 AM

If we can't see it, then it's okay.

#3 President Eisenhowler

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:18 AM

If we can't see it, then it's okay.


Yeah, what the fuk (sic) do we owe them anyhow?

#4 tikipete

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:49 AM

It isn't okay with me.

#5 Innocent Bystander

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 12:00 PM

Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here

#6 A_guy_in_the_Chesapeake

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


There ya go again - tryin' to be reasonable and base your opinions upon your own interpretation of the source.

Might it be somethin' about proximity to the hallowed land of the Eastern Shore? Dealin' w/mud, marsh, mosquitoes and road-drownin' high tides must make folks a bit more cautious in what they choose to spend time worryin' about.

:-)

#7 tikipete

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:22 PM

Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


Eat me. I have no obligation to personally ride herd on all branches of the U.S. government.

#8 tikipete

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:28 PM

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all.
- Prof. Peter Drucker


#9 A_guy_in_the_Chesapeake

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 01:41 PM


Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


Eat me. I have no obligation to personally ride herd on all branches of the U.S. government.


The point, ticky-breath, is that the public was provided a time to comment, that time has passed, and anything done now is just a bunch of mealy-mouthed posturing.
Nobody said ya HAD to do anything - there's a process, a way in which you can ensure that your thoughts are voiced and heard. If you choose not to avail yourself of the process, then you've given up your turn to bitch.

#10 Innocent Bystander

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:26 PM


Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


Eat me. I have no obligation to personally ride herd on all branches of the U.S. government.



I see. All internet hero and no actual engagement. You are perfectly willing to opine that you are "not OK with it" without taking the time to look into what it is, why it's happening and what mitigation is proposed prior to forming an opinon.

Explains why nobody understands your economic "theories".

Intelligent, considered opinions can generate articulate discussion and possibly understanding between rational individuals with different beliefs. Keyboard diarrhea of undigested thought contributes nothing.

Go back to starting threads on "banksters" that no one responds to.

#11 sailSAK

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 02:29 PM

If we can't see it, then it's okay.

Fukushima... whales are fucked anyway.

#12 tikipete

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:00 PM



Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


Eat me. I have no obligation to personally ride herd on all branches of the U.S. government.


The point, ticky-breath, is that the public was provided a time to comment, that time has passed, and anything done now is just a bunch of mealy-mouthed posturing.
Nobody said ya HAD to do anything - there's a process, a way in which you can ensure that your thoughts are voiced and heard. If you choose not to avail yourself of the process, then you've given up your turn to bitch.


There is no time limit on public comment, particularly one imposed, surreptitiously, by a bureaucrat.

#13 A_guy_in_the_Chesapeake

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:06 PM




Funny how none of the boards, forums and "call to action" cries link to the Draft EIS so that folks can read it amd make a determination as to their position. They only link to the "Moveon.org" site for signing a petition that calls for ending something they haven't read and don't understand.

The public comment period ended 10 July. If you really cared, you would have known. Draft EIS is here


Eat me. I have no obligation to personally ride herd on all branches of the U.S. government.


The point, ticky-breath, is that the public was provided a time to comment, that time has passed, and anything done now is just a bunch of mealy-mouthed posturing.
Nobody said ya HAD to do anything - there's a process, a way in which you can ensure that your thoughts are voiced and heard. If you choose not to avail yourself of the process, then you've given up your turn to bitch.


There is no time limit on public comment, particularly one imposed, surreptitiously, by a bureaucrat.


There is if you expect your comments to be appropriately considered in a timely manner.

#14 tikipete

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 03:15 PM

As if... The decision was already made or it would not have been opened to comment. That whole process is all for show.

#15 President Eisenhowler

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:48 AM

I believe the opening bit of "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" is relevant here? Something about waking up to the bulldozers in your yard and being told "the plans have been on file at the county offices for a year; it's too late for you to complain now."




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