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[Mistaken]

So what's up with the Free Byrd DSQ on Sunday - comes somewhat as a surprise?

[Eric]

So what's up with the Free Byrd DSQ on Sunday - comes somewhat as a surprise?

DSQ compliments of Marda Phelps

[TeamGladiator]

Must be a story there!

[Mistaken]

Agreed -- let's hear it!

[Eric]

On a race like this I'm of the opinion that if (for example) a port boat misjudges a passing by a little bit the starboard boat should just duck them and say "you owe me one". What goes around comes around. On the other hand if somebody pulls a flag the penalty is just two turns and on a 75 mile race it's most likely insignificant so just SFU and do the turns. There is no need to prove a point.

The other problem here is that if a boat protests on Sunday then it is likely that the defending boat will not be at the Yacht Club to defend themselves. It's just a little shabby to protest over something that really wouldn't otherwise change the outcome of the race.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[Asymptote]

Several boats in Division 0 and 1 got caught or almost caught on the wrong side of the Danger Shoal buoy. We remembered just in time and dove down hard to get around it at the last minute.

We saw Time Bandit go back and clear, as well as several other boats. Ace had such an amazing start that they were far out of hailing range when they went inside - maybe a 1/4 mile out in front of everybody. Ultimately, being the very good sports that they are, they retired after finishing.

I suspect that Freebyrd may have had the same issue. With the wind angle and the start line, it was very easy to straight line it to Turn Pt. and be inside the buoy.

[Green Card]

On a race like this I'm of the opinion that if (for example) a port boat misjudges a passing by a little bit the starboard boat should just duck them and say "you owe me one". What goes around comes around. On the other hand if somebody pulls a flag the penalty is just two turns and on a 75 mile race it's most likely insignificant so just SFU and do the turns. There is no need to prove a point.

The other problem here is that if a boat protests on Sunday then it is likely that the defending boat will not be at the Yacht Club to defend themselves. It's just a little shabby to protest over something that really wouldn't otherwise change the outcome of the race.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Especially after we watched Marda Gras barge the start line on Sunday and hit a trimaran...

[Silverbullet]

My Picks to Win 2012:

(Have to weather guess to do this: sorry, but we're due for light and fluky)

Dragonfly, Overall and Multi class
Freebyrd, X
Madrona, O
Ptolemy, I (local knowledge pick)
Madame Pele, II (Muffin, Black Boat never to be taken lightly but...)
Blackfoot, III

If it is big air, things change.

Anyone else care to stir the pot?

Pretty good picks! 3-for-6 would land you an everyday spot in the Mariners lineup.

November in the San Juans...another great weekend of racing, wind, sun, soda-pops, and friends! Close racing in almost every class with plenty of lead changes both days. Thanks again to the OIYC and RC!

[Thigh high]

Simple Port/ Stbd 1/2 way up the beat. Nothing more, nothing less. We had 5 Big boats going at it and it was close quarters and no body giving an inch. Great racing!!!!

[transom]

Does PHRF work? Still don't know, but pretty cool to see the overall win go to Dragonfly, wicked formula 40? catamaran, Second place to the Old Martha Schooner, and Third place to Here and Now, a battle tested J-29. Three very different boats!

[Micksails]

On a race like this I'm of the opinion that if (for example) a port boat misjudges a passing by a little bit the starboard boat should just duck them and say "you owe me one". What goes around comes around. On the other hand if somebody pulls a flag the penalty is just two turns and on a 75 mile race it's most likely insignificant so just SFU and do the turns. There is no need to prove a point.

The other problem here is that if a boat protests on Sunday then it is likely that the defending boat will not be at the Yacht Club to defend themselves. It's just a little shabby to protest over something that really wouldn't otherwise change the outcome of the race.

Just my 2 cents worth.

That goes for Large boats overtaking smaller ones. Please go to leeward or tack away if you're too close. Westerly passed too close to weather of us along the Canadian shore. I had to alter course to leeward to avoid a situation that could have been deadly. I didn't Protest but should have. Just a note for all you big guys, you cast a big wind shadow when passing to windward. As close as Westerly was, if I hadn't altered course their sails would have made contact with the top of my mast. At the speed they were going, both boats would have been in jeapordy. Ripped up sails, dismasting and a collision were all possibilities at the time.

[Thigh high]

Until recently I've always been the little shrub surrounded by the big trees. Most of the time the bigger boats have always been very respectful and have taken the path of least resistance. When it has happened it's because they weren't looking and is usually a rookie mistake.

[ShockValue]

Great fun this weekend. Just wish I didn't have this monster cold that put a damper on my own performance (such that it is) and outright killed the partying.


Also decided it's time for new foulies. Even with all my layers on, I was fricken c o l d!

[cooperdog5]

Wonderful weekend all the way around (the County). Great racing and fun to be mixed with all the fleets. My (wool) hat is off to the race crew for all their hard work. Can we do it again next weekend?

[pogmothoin]

Got some great new foulie leggings and extreme gloves at Cabelas friday. The Leggings were on sale from $220 down to $140 and all worked great and kept some of my parts less frigid.

[Mach 5]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

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[sloansailing]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

The RC should also be recognized for their contribution to this moment!

[Ballard Sailor]

Hey, the line was square to the wind. Here is as short of a write up as I could do...

[slimpickings]

[BigGuyWithPinkHat]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

The RC should also be recognized for their contribution to this moment!

I'm not sure what you mean by that but it sounds like a cheep shot. The reason boats went to the pin was not because it was further down wind than the committee boat but because there was more pressure there with the wind flowing out of Spieden Channel. If the classic strategy were to be used (in a down wind start go to the end of the line furthest down wind) then all the boats would have been at the committee boat.

[sloansailing]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

The RC should also be recognized for their contribution to this moment!

I'm not sure what you mean by that but it sounds like a cheep shot. The reason boats went to the pin was not because it was further down wind than the committee boat but because there was more pressure there with the wind flowing out of Spieden Channel. If the classic strategy were to be used (in a down wind start go to the end of the line furthest down wind) then all the boats would have been at the committee boat.

The pin was quite a bit closer to Turn Point than the boat. Didn't mean it as a cheap shot.

[Ballard Sailor]

The Pin was hugely favored, it should have been pulled back about 250yds toward Roche to be square to the next mark in the course, not the wind. but it's what they chose to do so we all piled up at the pin.

[ctutmark]

The Pin was hugely favored, it should have been pulled back about 250yds toward Roche to be square to the next mark in the course, not the wind. but it's what they chose to do so we all piled up at the pin.

+1

[HardOnWind]

The Pin was hugely favored, it should have been pulled back about 250yds toward Roche to be square to the next mark in the course, not the wind. but it's what they chose to do so we all piled up at the pin.

It wouldn't have mattered if the line was square, the wind was at the pin and those down the line got parked.

[Asymptote]

The Pin was hugely favored, it should have been pulled back about 250yds toward Roche to be square to the next mark in the course, not the wind. but it's what they chose to do so we all piled up at the pin.

It wouldn't have mattered if the line was square, the wind was at the pin and those down the line got parked.

I don't know about that "got parked". We were half way down the line at the gun, set the asym and reached up hard behind the clusterfuck, dipped around the pin, up over some over-earlies and were second boat to the Danger Shoal buoy. Not that we planned it that way.

Of course it would matter. The start would have been much more fair for more boats with a line square to the course.

Great great race though. Thanks much to OIYC and Bob and Betsy and all.

[Cascadian505]

On a race like this I'm of the opinion that if (for example) a port boat misjudges a passing by a little bit the starboard boat should just duck them and say "you owe me one". What goes around comes around. On the other hand if somebody pulls a flag the penalty is just two turns and on a 75 mile race it's most likely insignificant so just SFU and do the turns. There is no need to prove a point.

The other problem here is that if a boat protests on Sunday then it is likely that the defending boat will not be at the Yacht Club to defend themselves. It's just a little shabby to protest over something that really wouldn't otherwise change the outcome of the race.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Especially after we watched Marda Gras barge the start line on Sunday and hit a trimaran...

That was me on the F27 Tri Impulse on Sunday! We didn't protest but I did yell at them. But they bought us beers Sunday night at the club so all good in the hood. We were really laughing about it all when it was happening. That was one cluster of a start! Being wedged up against a SC 70 we thought we were going to get squished. Total chaos, total fun.

[Mach 5]

On a race like this I'm of the opinion that if (for example) a port boat misjudges a passing by a little bit the starboard boat should just duck them and say "you owe me one". What goes around comes around. On the other hand if somebody pulls a flag the penalty is just two turns and on a 75 mile race it's most likely insignificant so just SFU and do the turns. There is no need to prove a point.

The other problem here is that if a boat protests on Sunday then it is likely that the defending boat will not be at the Yacht Club to defend themselves. It's just a little shabby to protest over something that really wouldn't otherwise change the outcome of the race.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Especially after we watched Marda Gras barge the start line on Sunday and hit a trimaran...

That was me on the F27 Tri Impulse on Sunday! We didn't protest but I did yell at them. But they bought us beers Sunday night at the club so all good in the hood. We were really laughing about it all when it was happening. That was one cluster of a start! Being wedged up against a SC 70 we thought we were going to get squished. Total chaos, total fun.

That's the spirit!

Just booked the room for next year!
Love this race! Thanks Betsy and crew!

[Touch of Gray]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

Think I'll put that on my desktop.

And as for Ms Phelps, pretty typical behavior.

TOG

[Maxx Baqustae]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

Think I'll put that on my desktop.

And as for Ms Phelps, pretty typical behavior.

TOG

Lol

By typical do you mean "bad behavior"?

[Touch of Gray]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

Think I'll put that on my desktop.

And as for Ms Phelps, pretty typical behavior.

TOG

Lol

By typical do you mean "bad behavior"?

Too many stories going all the way back to the Fast 50's days!

Ask BCam

[slimpickings]

A few raw footage videos from Westerly

[Maxx Baqustae]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

Think I'll put that on my desktop.

And as for Ms Phelps, pretty typical behavior.

TOG

Lol

By typical do you mean "bad behavior"?

Too many stories going all the way back to the Fast 50's days!

Ask BCam

Hey I was there for the whole 50 fast fleet on DB. Before that I sailed against OOze at the Gann Cup, 2 ton fleet, Swiftsure, WIRW etc, etc.I know all the stories as most of the time I was right there. Scary part is they were true.You can't make up shit like that - normal people wouldn't believe it.
I was being facetious. I'm a canuck; we do that. Eh. I haven't done RTC as I was deported in 1999.

Yup - I know Bcam too.

[BigGuyWithPinkHat]

Lots of great photo albums from the race shown here: http://roundthecounty.com/?q=node/236

Check it out if you haven't yet..

[hobot]

Another great big boat moment, brought to you by Sean Trew!

Think I'll put that on my desktop.

And as for Ms Phelps, pretty typical behavior.

TOG

Lol

By typical do you mean "bad behavior"?

Too many stories going all the way back to the Fast 50's days!

Ask BCam

Hey I was there for the whole 50 fast fleet on DB. Before that I sailed against OOze at the Gann Cup, 2 ton fleet, Swiftsure, WIRW etc, etc.I know all the stories as most of the time I was right there. Scary part is they were true.You can't make up shit like that - normal people wouldn't believe it.
I was being facetious. I'm a canuck; we do that. Eh. I haven't done RTC as I was deported in 1999.

Yup - I know Bcam too.

OZ was my first "big boat" I did fordeck on, believe it or not some good/silly times were had aboard.....unfortunately there were those "moments" that would overshadow them (screamimg at a Canadian boat we/they were crossing lanes with in very slow going conditions just prior to the finish line is probably a good example).