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#1 Black Jack

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:19 PM

I am considering taking a classic New Zealand cutter of Woolacott design. It is a departure from my other boats (I currently own/sail a strong thunderbird) . It will require work but the results should speak for themselves. she is of planked Kauri wood and has very classic lines. I imagine coastal cruising, doing historical boat rendezvous and running away from home.

http://yachthub.com/...er-cutter/93857

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:12 PM

I saw that listing too. Nice boat if its sound. She certainly has a good history.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:19 PM

I spotted her too.
Have a mate with a little 23 footer, sweet boat.
Long waterline for length, so not slow.
Kauri holds up too if the structure is sound.
Good luck.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:11 AM

Woollacott boats are known for their quality with thick planking and well founded keel. the other Kauri wooden hulled boats i known have some amazing qualities that separate themselves for most other wooden boats - mostly namely, worms and the like don't like to bury so much in them. Secondly, the ability beach, scrub and paint the hull in a low tide would mean cheaper cruising too.

What would the tax be on such a boat for the purchase price of say 10k in OZ?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:17 AM

Woollacott boats are known for their quality. the other Kauri wooden hulled boats i known have some amazing qualities that separate themselves for most other wooden boats - mostly namely, worms and the like don't like to bury so much in them. Secondly, the ability beach, scrub and paint the hull in a low tide would mean cheaper cruising too.

What would the tax be on such a boat for the purchase price of say 10k in OZ?

Woollacott boats are known for their quality. the other Kauri wooden hulled boats i known have some amazing qualities that separate themselves for most other wooden boats - mostly namely, worms and the like don't like to bury so much in them. Secondly, the ability beach, scrub and paint the hull in a low tide would mean cheaper cruising too.

What would the tax be on such a boat for the purchase price of say 10k in OZ?


If you were in Australia, there would be no additional taxes. There might be a small state sales tax on transfer of registration, maybe two percent or so depending on the state where it is registered.
This assumes the boat is registered in Australia and has not recently been imported. Import taxes are generally ten percent GST and an additional five percent duty.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:52 AM

Tax from where BJ, let us know how you go.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:10 PM

Tax from where BJ, let us know how you go.


I will. I currently sail her older sister with a friend here in San Francisco. I have found the woollacott design and build to be extraordinary. Not the fastest compared to similar displacement but most capable of doing 140 days shorthanded, sure footed and mot likely to break on a rock if a mishap occurred. Not many modern boats could do that.

Buying her, leaving Austrialian waters and sailing her back to New Zealand for the classic races and holiday parties would be a dream.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

Well Magnetic Is is a good place to start from!

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 10:40 PM

You know about the assn?

http://www.woollacott.org.nz/

also our club site here

http://www.classicyacht.org.nz/

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 06:19 PM

You know about the assn?

http://www.woollacott.org.nz/

also our club site here

http://www.classicyacht.org.nz/


that association looks like my kind of people. One day, I'll join you.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:31 PM

They have a page on your boat of dreams.

http://www.woollacot...Photographs.htm

Right click and "view image" to enlarge.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:28 AM

That site has her full history too.
Provenance.


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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:06 PM

I am still thinking about this Wollacott cutter which a close friend owns...

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:32 PM

Not a planar sheer.

I hate seeing listings with "owner had a change of plans/circumstances." I imagine poor foresight or optimism with finances or divorce, bad things.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:17 AM

Is that the boat you currently sail?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 01:51 PM

I sail on this one often. the skipper and I are good friends. She is very strong. She should be faster but we haven't worked her out yet to her the speed potential. I have helped haul and do yard work. Her hull is very fair, bone dry and her keel is wide enough to rest her without blocks. I ve never seen wood so strong - almost petrified Kauri from a mineral swap makes her impervious to worms and other criters. Her yanmar is good. As a boat that is nearly 90 percent, she is intruiging. with proper care, i belive her hull will last another hundred years more without much work. Moreover I heard her sister ship hit a large whale during a Hobart race in the 70s, she killed the whale and finished the race with a loose board which was fixed in a day (as the legend goes). anyway I believe he'd really want me to take her in the next year or two as he retires and spends less time around here.

the few drawbacks are that she really is 32 feet but her bow sprit makes her nearly 38. She is kinda of an oddball which steps outside the more yachty boats like traditional Bristol cutters came in let alone Herrshoff and Stephens would have drawn or made. having others appreciate her is part of the legacy of this boat and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 12:36 AM

Sounds like a perfect match Black.




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