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[couchsurfer]

Here's the video from yesterday... Boom
Great to see the windsurfers get into the 50 knot club. Happy days in Namibia.

........wow

...it'd be fun to see the forward view in real-time rather than slowwwmotion.

....about as close as I want to come to that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,already pissed th'couch

[yachtie2k4]

Awesome work guys. Any chance u can make the YouTube clip available to mobile devices please

[Ken S]

Awesome work guys. Any chance u can make the YouTube clip available to mobile devices please

I'm for this also , avidly following on a mobile device , well done can't wait to see the footage

[Tom Ray]

Here's the video from yesterday... Boom

That's great to see! You were somehow a happy guy after flipping the last Sailrocket, though you had lots of reasons to be disappointed at the time. This is an inspiring response to that disappointment and it's good to see everyone so happy for such a good reason!

[EthanB]

Well done to the Sailrocket team to get to this point. It's very exciting to see you on the threshold of setting some serious records after following your progress over the years. At those speeds, the runway must feel pretty short -- at this rate, you're going to need a longer runway. Can't wait to see you realize the potential of the VSR2.

[tackoften]

Your last blog is very well written Larso,,makes u feel the need for speed,,the passion is there all right,,good luck mate,,

[auscat]

Great write up here.
http://www.sail-worl...t-within/103818

[couchsurfer]

..........so sad they mowed through all those flamingo's


.......''they were in my way'' seems like a sad excuse


.

[Tom Ray]

Great write up here.
http://www.sail-worl...t-within/103818

Only yesterday when we hosed it all off did I really see/feel certain 'chalkiness' to the normally super-smooth surface near the tip of the foil and along the suction surface near the TE. I'm pretty sure that this is pitting caused by cavitation. The interesting thing is why we haven't seen this before i.e. when hitting the 'glass-ceiling' at 52 knots? It makes me wonder yet again about what we are looking at.

Can we see pictures of this chalkiness?

[larso]

Hi Tom, not much to see as you can just feel it with your fingertips when you glide your hand over the surface. We applied some black 'guide coat' to the surface and then brought it back with some 1000 grit wet-and-dry sandpaper to see if we could get a better picture but it is simply too fine. It's there alright. The foil is designed not to cavitate until 65 knots in theory... but this is the real world so it's not surprising. The location we discovered is actually pretty much where Chris and Wang predicted the suction peaks would be. We still have a few tricks that will allow us to play with this stuff.
Cheers, Paul
p.s. todays forecast is beefing up nicely. We're ready to roll.

[Mojounwin]

A world sailing record before the weekend would be nice.

Cheers
Mojo

[Tom Ray]

p.s. todays forecast is beefing up nicely. We're ready to roll.

Just try to keep all the rolling on land! Good luck!

[MT14er]

Hi Tom, not much to see as you can just feel it with your fingertips when you glide your hand over the surface. We applied some black 'guide coat' to the surface and then brought it back with some 1000 grit wet-and-dry sandpaper to see if we could get a better picture but it is simply too fine. It's there alright. The foil is designed not to cavitate until 65 knots in theory... but this is the real world so it's not surprising. The location we discovered is actually pretty much where Chris and Wang predicted the suction peaks would be. We still have a few tricks that will allow us to play with this stuff.
Cheers, Paul
p.s. todays forecast is beefing up nicely. We're ready to roll.

Actually it makes some sense that you could just now be causing cavitation damage to the foil. I think that technically you may have been more ventilating the foil than cavitating it previously. With the new fence preventing ventilation from the surface and the much higher speeds you got last time you could be in a whole new world of negative pressures at the tip of that foil which could cause surface damage. Pretty awesome stuff though.


Good Luck Larso! We are all rooting for you!

[Innocent Bystander]

Keeping a window open at the office waiting for it to happen. Pretty magic stuff.

[Innocent Bystander]

DONE!

"That's it... We've smashed the arse off it! 59 knot average. Live from end of speed spot!"

[O30_OldSchool]

woohoo! great job team!

[MT14er]

Fantastic job! You guys deserve this record!

[Cyrille Hydrogene]

Well done Sailrocket! Your 10 years of hard work have been more than worth it.
59 knots, that's amazing!

[Innocent Bystander]

What a ride that must be!

Congrats. Looking for all the numbers and the video as soon as you guys finish your well earned celebration.

[Steve Clark]

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Well done indeed.
SHC

[Murphness]

hotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshithotshit
Well done indeed.
SHC

+1! Well done team!

[EthanB]

good on 'em!

(would I be greedy if I said I wanted to see them keep going and push the record above 60kts?)

[couchsurfer]

..........so sad they mowed through all those flamingo's .......''they were in my way'' seems like a sad excuse

....please tell me that no flamingo's were hurt in making this fantastic world record


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[wardy89]

good on 'em!

(would I be greedy if I said I wanted to see them keep going and push the record above 60kts?)

well they have to leave themselves something to do tomorrow!

[Innocent Bystander]

good on 'em!

(would I be greedy if I said I wanted to see them keep going and push the record above 60kts?)

well they have to leave themselves something to do tomorrow!

I somehow think tomorrow will be a late and painful wake up and the boat will stay in the beach. They can shoot for the 60 kot average on Monday...

[giatt]

Hey Sailrocket, that's stunning news.

There's not a few english words that describe well what you guys have been up to over these years.

I think tenacity, doggedness, resolution, diligence, determination, stubbornness.... and above all incredible perseverance....would all be in there.

Serious congratulations......

[P Flados]

Great accomplishment.

With all the work by so many, this is a big VICTORY for a great team.

I knew they had the right approach. It took longer than I expected for this Payday, but it was a tough nut to crack an they finally did it.

Congrats to Paul and his team.

[Vernon Green]

Way to go sailrocket team! That is awesome! Take that kiters!

[Doug Lord]

Absolutely fantastic! Congratulations!

[larso]

Super sonic party people. Just getting started. And the kiters thought it was all over for the boats. We put our heads down and just got on with it!
That's history. That's significant in a way that most people won't yet realise. That was super-sonic.
I'm starting to shake a little!
pub!
The happiest day.
P

[Doug Lord]

Way to go ,Paul! For the rest of us: next time you're on the highway: average=68.1mph, peak=71.9mph Damn thats fast!
I bet Bernard Smith is turning heaven inside out!
----
This is going to sound ridiculous but it just dawned on me that not only is Sailrocket the fastest sailboat in the history of mankind-it is also the fastest foiler in history! Man, 2012 is a good year for foiling!

[Tucky]

Super sonic party people. Just getting started. And the kiters thought it was all over for the boats. We put our heads down and just got on with it!
That's history. That's significant in a way that most people won't yet realise. That was super-sonic.
I'm starting to shake a little!
pub!
The happiest day.
P

Biggest congratulations possible. I'm going to go get my copy of "The 40 Knot Sailboat" out and look it over with joy. You went and did it and that means solving all the problems turning a concept into reality. I'd love to see 60 to put paid to it like the four minute mile- you deserve that for all time.

[Tom Ray]

Congratulations to the new record holders!

Hi Tom, not much to see as you can just feel it with your fingertips when you glide your hand over the surface. We applied some black 'guide coat' to the surface and then brought it back with some 1000 grit wet-and-dry sandpaper to see if we could get a better picture but it is simply too fine. It's there alright. The foil is designed not to cavitate until 65 knots in theory... but this is the real world so it's not surprising. The location we discovered is actually pretty much where Chris and Wang predicted the suction peaks would be. We still have a few tricks that will allow us to play with this stuff.
Cheers, Paul
p.s. todays forecast is beefing up nicely. We're ready to roll.

Actually it makes some sense that you could just now be causing cavitation damage to the foil. I think that technically you may have been more ventilating the foil than cavitating it previously. With the new fence preventing ventilation from the surface and the much higher speeds you got last time you could be in a whole new world of negative pressures at the tip of that foil which could cause surface damage. Pretty awesome stuff though.


Good Luck Larso! We are all rooting for you!

Hah! The "cavitation vs ventilation" discussion is common enough when talking powerboats, but pretty rare on a sailing forum. Congrats on bringing that here too!

[tackoften]

Legends,,,,,,,a team of Legends,,,

[cosmicsedso]

Well done Larso and your brilliant team!
Bring on 60+!

[auscat]

Onya Larso you bloody beauty

[SecondWindNC]

Wow! Congrats!

[MT Sailor]

Amazing accomplishment. So glad to see that all the design and study and trial and error has paid off so fantastically!

[atefooterz]

Congrats !!! awesome well deserved ride!

[fan]

What what testiment to tenacity. Nice job guys you teuely did earn this.

[MT14er]

At 59 knots this not only blows away the previous record of 55.65 knots, it is also the LARGEST increase in the 500m speeds record EVER! This not just a record, it's a revolution!

[Cavandish]

absolutely insane, great job. ffs that is fast enough to get pulled over on! a highway, just insane

[hoom]

Congrats!

Honestly I'd given up on you guys a while back but its been looking good recently.
A 59kt record is mind blowing & ample vindication of effort.

[Mojounwin]

Well done team!! Years of hard work and sleepless nights all come to head in under 20 seconds. Must feel like a big weight off the shoulders. Congratulations also to Vestas for having the belief to stand behind you. I hope you can get a bit more sailing in before the end of speed season and can push that record a little higher.

When does Helena get a stab at it? That would pretty much guarantee SA sailer chick of the week.

Cheers from Oz

Mojo

[Vogel515]

great work.

[tackoften]

you guys will be able to take paying passengers for a belt,,,$1000 bucks a go,,i'm up first,,,

[fastyacht]

you guys will be able to take paying passengers for a belt,,,$1000 $10,000 bucks a go,,i'm up first,,,

[P Flados]

When does Helena get a stab at it? That would pretty much guarantee SA sailer chick of the week.

Cheers from Oz

Mojo

Here is a second for the motion to let Helana have a crack at a permanent spot on the record list.

[auscat]

Another vote for Helena as the fastest chick on water

[DSmith]

Time for Helena to step up to the plate. I bet she can smash 60!

[Guitar]

Unbelievable!

Well done.

Put the petal down and bust the shit out of 60.

[Alpha FB]

Goodmorning Sailrocketeers!
How's the hangover today?

Time to wake up and start going for the 60... and beyond!

[DC_US55]

Super sonic party people. Just getting started. And the kiters thought it was all over for the boats. We put our heads down and just got on with it!
That's history. That's significant in a way that most people won't yet realise. That was super-sonic.
I'm starting to shake a little!
pub!
The happiest day.
P

So totally thrilled for you.

Going to take a shot at the mile?
Almost suspect you need the extra to hit top speed.

[Tunnel Rat]

Stunning - well done. Rarely has a stinking hangover been so well deserved. Now, please go for 60 and put Helena in the hot seat.

[Big Show]

Super sonic party people. Just getting started. And the kiters thought it was all over for the boats. We put our heads down and just got on with it!
That's history. That's significant in a way that most people won't yet realise. That was super-sonic.
I'm starting to shake a little!
pub!
The happiest day.
P

So happy for you guys. You've smashed on through to the other side!

I remember Pascal Maka and Eric Beale like it was yesterday.

@#$% awesome!!!!!!!

[Goose84]

Great work Paul!! That's an epic accomplishment. Been rooting for you guys for years. So glad you stuck with it and persevered!! Can't wait to see how far y'all can take it.

[mad]

Time for Helena to step up to the plate. I bet she can smash 60!

And she weighs a lot less than Paul, be good to see.

[6times7]

Awesome, just awesome.

How long has this been in the planning, design, testing and trying? 10+years of hard graft that I'm aware of, and I don't know how much thinking time before that - and VS2 has just smashed it, moved the record up with a step change in design and execution, kissed goodbye to the kiters and proved the teams concept and commitment.

Can't wait to see where the next glass ceiling gets found...

[auscat]

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Awsome shot hope to hear more from Paul soon.

[ThrillSeeker]

Brilliantly done!! Congratulations! Elegantly executed.

I have a healthy engineering and physics background and just gave a talk this week to a team of engineers about High Technology Sailing. I picked Sailrocket 2 as the most likely to break the speed record because I recognized the elegance of the design approach. Two days later you did it!!!

Your videos are great. Thanks so much for sharing.

Celebrate!

[shanghaisailor]

From the time I saw your Mk 1 at the Southampton Show (September 2003) I have been hoping for this day. In fact from the day I was honoured enough to see the boat in the mould.

Almost 10 years hard graft and so many would have given up long, long ago.

I am so chuffed it literally brough tears to my eyes.

Bloody well done guys and as a wonderful bonus the sailing speed record is back in the hands of something that doesn't sink below its sailor when it is not moving.

Well done Paul, Helena, the boffins - everyone.

Paul's is the name that goes in the record books but he has always acknowledged that this is a superlative team effort.

Brilliant!!

See ya on the water (or at least spot your wake)

SS

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[shaggybaxter]

Pulleaaase Clean....
If the front page was like the Times magazine and people collected them for the front cover, well, we're sitting on one of the best on history...
Front page please!
SB

[F15 AUS]

Fantastic job. Now send it and be the first to 60.

Chew on that kites

[larso]

Righto... well that mighty hangover is over. She was a beauty. When I woke up fully clothed on top of the duvet I noticed Helena wasn't there. My first thought was uh-oh... either I left her somewhere or I crossed a line last night... and it must have been bad! She was actually already up and at it getting stuff sorted to send to the world. She's a champ (and yes... she gets to ride the Rocket next). I wandered out of the house in the vague direction of the yacht club. The african sun was burning straight through me. The hangover was magnificent but I could only enjoy the wonder of why it existed. Yesterday was not productive and the inboxes were overwhelmed. Seeing and hearing the shared joy that this success has brought is a fantastic pleasure. I can only read all that you have sent in and say that is very much appreciated. All the support and even the criticism over the years has been part of the snowball that we have created. Everyone is a part of this story and that is why we try and share it as honestly and openly as we can. We're a small team here. I read on one website the other day where the opening line was 'Tired of hearing of the Vendee Globe, VESTAS Sailrocket and the Americas Cup? Here is some other news.... etc" I thought that was very cool.
So anyway, today we are sobre and focusing on what is to come. 59 is a great number in many respects. It represents the single biggest jump in the records history. It already feels like it is not enough. It's not safe. I feel like I need to protect it. My precious! We have 12 days left of this world record attempt. 59... it's a messy number. In some ways it's an 'almost' number. I think that we still have a big chunk of performance to come. It depends on the nature of the drag curve that is ahead of us. Will it be another ceiling or a gradual ramping up? Only one way to find out. So the game is back on.
I love that picture that Auscat posted four messages up. It's my new favourite. It's perfect. Everything in that shot is perfect. The boat is in total harmony. The leeward pod is flying beautifully, even the front float is levitating. The camera is staring straight down the apparent wind. When we zoom in on the original picture you can see the little wind indicator in front of my helmet staring straight at the camera. This means the boat is achieving 2.5 X windspeed. The wing is perfectly sheeted in as all the sections are aligned. The water is super flat as it isn't that windy. It's just bloody perfect. When I first started this project in earnest with Malcolm a long time ago, I wrote a piece for the first website called 'The quest for the perfect reach'. I spoke about what happened yesterday before I even knew this place existed. That was the perfect reach. Yes we can go faster... but on that day... that was perfect. The video will be uploaded soon. Wait 'til you see what happens at the end of the run. Disney couldn't have cued nature any better. Thankyou mother.
And... just when you think life might be peaking... a friend who is working on the Mad Max 4 film out here takes me into the workshop near sunset last night and lets me sit in the 'last of the v8 interceptors' (it was his job to partly blow all the others up). Yeah.. happy days... right, now to get all this stuff out. Thanks for everything. We read and share it all here in the container. It's not over yet.
Cheers, Paul

[larso]

Righto... here it is. Time for you to go to a special place. Here's the video... VESTAS Sailrocket 2 Outright world speed sailing record.

[Sean]

Righto... here it is. Time for you to go to a special place. Here's the video... VESTAS Sailrocket 2 Outright world speed sailing record.

Wow! Beautiful.
Love the flamingos at the end! Well done.

[MR.CLEAN]

goddamn i wish i was there to celebrate wit ya paul.

[MR.CLEAN]

Pulleaaase Clean....
If the front page was like the Times magazine and people collected them for the front cover, well, we're sitting on one of the best on history...
Front page please!
SB

On its way!

[larso]

Hey Clean... just sent the link for the hi res shots to the Ed. Fill your boots. Winds blowing so everyone is gearing up here. The ink is barely dry on the last record. This boats making me nervous. She's starting to load up now.
Cheers, Paul.

[Fasterdamnit]

Hey Clean... just sent the link for the hi res shots to the Ed. Fill your boots. Winds blowing so everyone is gearing up here. The ink is barely dry on the last record. This boats making me nervous. She's starting to load up now.
Cheers, Paul.

Good Hunting, Paul!!

[Big Show]

For me - This is the coolest thing in sailing in a long, long time.

People achieving their dreams and goals is as good as the human condition gets IMHO.

Simply fantastic.

[Tom Ray]

Hey Clean... just sent the link for the hi res shots to the Ed. Fill your boots. Winds blowing so everyone is gearing up here. The ink is barely dry on the last record. This boats making me nervous. She's starting to load up now.
Cheers, Paul.

Your new record is great, but one in the sixties would be better! Thanks for the video and good luck breaking your own record in the remaining time at the course.

[Murphness]

Righto... here it is. Time for you to go to a special place. Here's the video... VESTAS Sailrocket 2 Outright world speed sailing record.

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Congrats! Your reactions are the best part of that video! So happy for you all.

60!

[Amati]

Most excellent.

A new plateau to explore! How big is it? 15K?

How has the segmented wing worked? Can you notice any drag from the (extra) exposed foil ends? Does the top section 'capture' changes in flow direction, like gusts, because of a wide effective aoa range, or would some sort of active control, or perhaps even another segment be in the cards? It looks like the bottom segment soaks up most of the flow's twist?

Congratulations.

Paul

[Fasterdamnit]

And the Hits keep on coming!

New record in the nautical mile!

From Paul's Blog-

"(Hang on STOP PRESS: Trimble data in now... 55.32 knots for the mile subject to wssrc ratification. That's it).
63.98 knots 1 second peak... so definitely over 64 for a spike in there.
... and just marginally quicker than our previous best 500 meters at 59.38 knots... subject to wssrc stuff!"



Just incredible work! Bravo!!

[JimC]

Well, I have to hold my hand up and say that when I saw the first boat I thought you din't have a prayer, and have been proved utterly wrong... Mainly by the committment and tenacity which is so essential for a serious development project.
Three loud cheers, and a slice of humble pie...

[Doug Lord]

Congratulations again-that beats Hydroptere!

[Scarecrow]

Well, I have to hold my hand up and say that when I saw the first boat I thought you din't have a prayer, and have been proved utterly wrong... Mainly by the committment and tenacity which is so essential for a serious development project.
Three loud cheers, and a slice of humble pie...

Can I have some of that pie too please.

[tackoften]

Keep this up your going to be in rehab soon,,,,

Send it Larso!

[Trickypig]

Righto... here it is. Time for you to go to a special place. Here's the video... VESTAS Sailrocket 2 Outright world speed sailing record.

That video was brilliant.

In a mastery of understatement you said in the video "that's pretty fast"

More to be had?

[Tom Ray]

Well, I have to hold my hand up and say that when I saw the first boat I thought you din't have a prayer, and have been proved utterly wrong... Mainly by the committment and tenacity which is so essential for a serious development project.
Three loud cheers, and a slice of humble pie...

Can I have some of that pie too please.

Mmmm. Pie.

I never really thought the idea unworkable, but admit to having made a bit of fun in the past. When you wear a cone hat and fly your boat upside down, I'm probably going to weaken and poke fun.

[P Flados]

Righto... here it is. Time for you to go to a special place. Here's the video... VESTAS Sailrocket 2 Outright world speed sailing record.

That video was brilliant.

In a mastery of understatement you said in the video "that's pretty fast"

His comments were great. I liked the string at the end that went:

Ok that was fast

Ok that was too fast

Ok I liked that one

I liked that one a lot

[Tunnel Rat]

Shamelessly stolen from the WSSRC website - the 500m previous record holders:

The World Sailing Speed Record
1972 Crossbow Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 26.30 kts
1973 Crossbow Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 29.30 kts
1975 Crossbow Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 31.10 kts
1975 Crossbow II Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 31.80 kts
1977 Crossbow II Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 33.80 kts
1977 Crossbow II Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 34.40 kts
1980 Crossbow II Tim Colman GBR Portland, UK 36.00 kts
1986 Windsurfer Pascal Maka FRA Sotavento, ESP 38.86 kts
1988 Windsurfer Erik Beale GBR Stes.Maries, FRA 40.48 kts
1990 Windsurfer Pascal Maka FRA Stes.Maries, FRA 42.91 kts
1991 Windsurfer Thierry Bielak FRA Stes Maries, FRA 43.06 kts
1991 Windsurfer Thierry Bielak FRA Stes.Maries, FRA 44.66 kts
1993 Windsurfer Thierry Bielak FRA Stes Maries, FRA 45.34 kts
1993 Yellow Pages Simon McKeon AUS Sandy Point, AUS 46.52 kts
2004 Windsurfer Finian Maynard BVI Stes.Maries, FRA 46.82 kts
2005 Windsurfer Finian Maynard BVI Stes.Maries, FRA 48.70 kts
2008 Windsurfer Antoine Albeau FRA Stes.Maries, FRA 49.09 kts
2008 Kite-board Robert Douglas USA Luderitz, NAM 49.84 kts
2008 Kite-board Sebastien Cattelan FRA Luderitz, NAM 50.26 kts
2008 Kite-board Alexandre Caizergues FRA Luderitz, NAM 50.57 kts
2009 Hydroptere Alain Thebault FRA Hyeres, FRA 51.36 kts
2010 Kite-board Alexandre Caizergues FRA Luderitz, NAM 54.10 kts
2010 Kite-board Sebastien Cattalan FRA Luderitz, NAM 55.49 kts
2010 Kite-board Rob Douglas USA Luderitz, NAM 55.65 kts

Assuming that WSSRC ratify the current best of 59.38 that is an increase of 3.73kts over theDouglas' record, the biggest previous increase was 2.86kts when the windsurfer Pascal Maka took the record from Crossbow II in 1986. This gives an indication of the magnitude of the leap forwards Sailrocket has taken.

Hats off.

[larso]

Smashed:) Just hanging with the team in a crew house in Namibia drinking one bottle of rum too many. Great guys, great team. Happy days... bed!

[Rohanoz]

Wow.


And can be attributed to the attitude both on and off the water!

[Vogel515]

rum well deserved.

Congratulations!

[Mambo Kings]

+1000 congratulations.


That is scary fast. Be safe.

[JimC]

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[oem]

Larso, you're a legend... Why are the sailing news desks seemingly asleep on what's going on over the past 48 hours.. They have been caught napping one thinks...

[Bob Perry]

Congats! I really enjoyed watching that.

[Mambo Kings]

Pulleaaase Clean....
If the front page was like the Times magazine and people collected them for the front cover, well, we're sitting on one of the best on history...
Front page please!
SB

On its way!

This year or next?

[Big Show]

Front page NOW! Get to it dudes.

[MR.CLEAN]

email the Ed. Sent it yesterday morning.

[MR.CLEAN]

goddamn i can't wait until the CMS system and new site is up and running so I don't have to wait for him to wake up

[mad]

email the Ed. Sent it yesterday morning.

Just tell him to look under 19 tons of spam, its there somewhere.

[Fasterdamnit]

goddamn i can't wait until the CMS system and new site is up and running so I don't have to wait for him to wake up

Yeah, I also deal with a 3 hour delay and it is a real PiA at times.

Is this kind of thing not exciting for Scott? Good to see the update but it is kinda thin. Not even a pic.

[mad]

goddamn i can't wait until the CMS system and new site is up and running so I don't have to wait for him to wake up

Yeah, I also deal with a 3 hour delay and it is a real PiA at times.

Is this kind of thing not exciting for Scott? Good to see the update but it is kinda thin. Not even a pic.

Even the BBC beat SA to this one, finger on the pulse???

[couchsurfer]

.........what??? .........someone goes to SA for -news-??? .....can't believe that!

[Rohanoz]

Hey Clean - it's called HTML and FTP access!
The mythical SA front page isn't exactly 'hi-tech'. Most year 2 kids would be able to update it nowadays!

[hoom]

Jesus christ, front page has been updated & Sailrocket is still not there.

I mean you got the Luna Rossa wing damage up there before AC Anarchy spotted it & that was with a bunch of people on webcams watching them...

Edit: Oh, OK it is there but just a little text blurb & not even top billing to a pic of some shitter throwing spray