1210 replies to this topic

[dinghydoc]

You guys that went West are looking to be in good shape. When the servers come back up I'll be raging at the wind as I try to figure out how to keep up as you go flying by to the West. It seemed like a half-assed plan to begin with and I'm starting to see why. Fun to learn the hard way when it doesn't really cost you anything. I need to look at the bigger picture as a couple others have wisely pointed out.

Is the game weather based on real NOAA forecasts (gribs)?

[Rasputin22]

You guys that went West are looking to be in good shape. When the servers come back up I'll be raging at the wind as I try to figure out how to keep up as you go flying by to the West. It seemed like a half-assed plan to begin with and I'm starting to see why. Fun to learn the hard way when it doesn't really cost you anything. I need to look at the bigger picture as a couple others have wisely pointed out.

Is the game weather based on real NOAA forecasts (gribs)?

Well I went west and was making big gains and then when the wind shift came in I haven't been able to tack with the server overeloaded or something and am parked! About the throw in the towel...

[Sailing My Cubicle]

Same Shit Different Virtual Race - they take (for some) our money, advertisers money, and player sign ups but don't create the infrastructure to support the game/advertising platform so it crashes. Happens every time.

Shame on me for still coming back to it. I'll need to think up a different way to win a bottle of rum off my friends.

[DRIFTW00D]

Is the game weather based on real NOAA forecasts (gribs)?

I haven't been able to tack with the server overeloaded or something and am parked!

Is BUT as pointed out Dumbed down. So it is down AGAIN, same old same old, I am setting up at the 55 min to 00 BEFORE the wind comes online. This Low was a nice practice for the round the bottom trip. !!! I MADE IT!! Max wind. or should have I hope if it ever comes up AGAIN.

280,000 boats this early is interesting. Just looked at the chart before the crash; thats a lot a gates, the South Atlantic one will change my TCZ approach .

[Tom O'Keefe]

This is the second time in this race that the servers have gone down just when it was time to make a course change. The first time was right at Finistere and I got hosed. This time it happened right at the bottom of the low. I made a tack and the game froze. fifteen minutes later it came back up fpr a few minutes. I was stil on my old heading. So, I tacked again. I think it took because the next update showed the new course. But, until the servers come back up I won't know if I'm stuck in irons or not.

[stanlutz]

Hi all! I was looking in the sailing forum for the Vendee game info. Glad to find the thread here. The system crashed right at the wind change. My course change should have taken effect at the wind update. 1400 EDT. stanlutz is the boat name. Was west just below the system and am ready to charge south. #$@%$# system maintenance. I hope this is isn't something regular.

[Tom O'Keefe]

System maintanance is just game master speak for too much traffic and system crash.

[DRIFTW00D]

Or put another way Cheep fuckers do no give a shit. Never could write clean code, never will.

The last V Vendee the start was a blast BIG Crash but I came out of it great got down to #14.. Made me spend for pro options. If I had money in this game now I'd be Pissed!!

I think or look at these outages as opportunities , V squalls set up ahead of time and KICK ASS as the noobs park up.

[stanlutz]

Current standings on 13/11/2012 17:05 UTC+1:

corinthians (no options):
WildThings : 5046
Brigand: 24521
Goat Rodeo: 47717
zetitop: 51584
Sintram: 53208
klymen: 79907
S/Y epoxy: 82901
Me Rongo: 100124
NorCalLaser : 124310
pogen: 205503
zetitop1: 101683

stanlutz 45,000ish

Training wheels on (all or some options):

Eau Gazeuse: 4299
GruffT: 5137
Billy no Mates SA: 7111
nwnordic44: 7379
busybeeoly: 56574

Did I miss anyone?

cruzdude: 90205 in the Corinthian div

[stanlutz]

Any routing software anyone has been using?

[us7070]

are you guys getting on?

i'm not....

pretty sure i will be in irons.

very annoying to have spent more than a day setting up my westerly strategy, and now have it ruined.

[DRIFTW00D]

LOL

Any routing software anyone has been using?

Ah nothing really this time, the 12 hr ball and looking at zezo for long range weather. If he gets this game in sail.zezo.org is my main one. I have started to think like his program max wind, a great angle, always going for new max wind, Max CMG up to 8 days out.

[Rasputin22]

In irons now for a couple of hours and I was in just the right spot to consolodate my hard earned gains by going west. I noticed the wind change and re-adjusted my course and clicked to validate the change and everything locked up. Just tried another browser but no joy there either.

[klymen]

I'm not getting on. I can only hope that my boat is at least still moving. I'd be happy with any speed at the moment but probably in irons. In which case I guess I should use the opportunity to carry out some minor tweaks to my running gear...

[dinghydoc]

are you guys getting on?

No, been down for over 30 minutes. I did get in my turn south so hopefully I'm at least going in the right direction.

[us7070]

are you guys getting on?

No, been down for over 30 minutes. I did get in my turn south so hopefully I'm at least going in the right direction.

i haven't been able to get on for 2.5hrs

[DRIFTW00D]

Wonder if the Frenches are down. Im going to Bmark their servers through the French flag page. Seems to me they got on last game and while our anglophone servers were out off line ALOT.

[dinghydoc]

Any routing software anyone has been using?

Check a ways up in the thread. There is a client tool you can use. I tried it but gave up. The configuration/settings are a bit much and the Wiki didn't help a lot. YMMV.

[dinghydoc]

Wonder if the Frenches are down. Im going to mark their servers through the French flag page. Seems to me they got on last game and our anglophone servers out off line ALOT.

Ha, that would be funny if they gave themselves priority! Bad cricket if that's the case.

[x2sea]

Well, I've returned from about an 8 year hiatus, and it's sort of comforting to find the same old glitches. I do try to update just prior to a clock tick but what always lurks on the other side is a whole new wind grid.

It would be nice if they'd post a schedule for when a new grib is to be implemented. That way, the usual window of maybe 36 hours could be measured from a realistic start point.

It's a long race, at least they do not seem to have the random disasters any more so the only fickle finger apart from wind, are these server crashes.

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vs m2for

[FAiRaWAY]

all servers down in France for over 2 hours 30.... glad i made a prog and been in west...

[DRIFTW00D]

So FAiRaWAYwhat French sites do the virtual vendee folks use talk about this game.

Why would they not have problems with trans world servers AND in-country close to the game base NEVER go down. I used it last game a tol. Just never got to thinking it would go south like this AGAIN.

[Speedwatch]

Gone west and head down south this morning after the wind change. From 26.000 up to 162.000 and now counting down again. 20:00 h server break down - big fuck up!

[Marvin]

Their last "technical problems" notice on Facebook is just flooded with over 2200 comments from irate players...

[FAiRaWAY]

It's always the same shit on MP for the vendee...
toofuckingmanyplayers

here a lot of dude are going to move to liveskipper.com which looks interessing for purists. I am thinking about that.....

[dinghydoc]

Meanwhile in the real race and interesting parallel. The leaders are moving well to the SSW just outside Madere.

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[Sailing My Cubicle]

Somebody gets a moose head award for this.

[dinghydoc]

Some idle speculation...

1) They are waiting for enough players to get so pissed they never come back thus solving their problem
2) They are waiting for the nearest French PC store to open so they can buy more servers
3) It's a database problem and they're reindexing some big ass table or restoring something
4) Someone failed to pay the electrical bill

[DRIFTW00D]

Voici quelques animations des courses Virtual Regatta.
En rouge les bateaux avec options (AO) et en vert les bateaux sans options (SO). Sur certaines animations, seuls les premiers 10.000 bateaux sont présents.

Here are some animations Virtual Regatta races.
Red boats with options (AO) and green boats without options (SO). On some events, only the first 10,000 boats are present.

http://vr-annexe.akr...t.php?anim=vg12


Virtual Regatta: First choice in Northern Madeira



virtual site peaked in bullshit, pub each connection site much less friendly than in the past and big worries of maintenance. I am disgusted luckily I did not actually have with the options. very disappointing.

Jahjah - 15.11.12 00:04Report
planted in canaries for 4 h!! I crack!! 20th in your ass! vr your mother!!! j was well fucking! behind patdepp alone!! bum!!

Gwalarn - 15.11.12 00:04Report
I point to the brotherhood of the bank account skippers RV is in perfect working condition. I made a stupid purchase options and I just be charged € 19.80. And virtually no! I ask to be reimbursed. This site is run by crooks!

Alyann3 - 15.11.12 00:04Report
Crutches 4.50 m were not in the options!! Too bad I will not need it soon, if it is not already the case .... In any event more than 4 hours of maintenance, it is not serious.

slorito - 15.11.12 00:03Report
it smells like Oracle that neets more!

how many sailors who you buy the pack???? BE 150000 MULTIPLY BY 20E = 3000000 EURO.! Hello scandal!

piedbleu - 15.11.12 00:03Report
ben good if everyone finally agrees to return to the Sands, I have to be a little chance to win! guys go a little effort.

Louloutedemer - 15.11.12 00:03Report
I've never seen minutes last hours

Louloutedemer - 15.11.12 00:02Report
Good night all, you never know a miracle can arriver.Ca only 4 years they do it aha aha aha

francois31 Danfers - 15.11.12 00:02Report
My second question was to know the minute so useful for iterations, the answer is: I am unable to answer (in a look flush pumps) except that part in the Vendée???(Yes, we know NOW) 1:02 p.m. so if I were you ... eh, you know what I mean .... (23:27, still rocking!! My progs were made but fortunately tonight I write for those who did not make it: () The Mr Modo, also you wear your name so you're small (at all levels), tonight I can tell you that this departure from the Vendée in 2012 I'll remember you but also because I am going to publish this article on the official website of the Vendée Globe, I'm happy for reason alone, I could finally put a face to that which has long been known: [size = 18] THE INTERN [/ size] Here's an example of the people we Rincons year round and play the ignorance, I care less, hypocrisy ... so I wanted to tell you tonight that I plan to get my 100 euros, never speak to you, to win the Vendée Globe that you can remember of francois31 Danfers there, you crossed the line tonight and VR adds the layer of varnish ... with a connection back in a few minutes ... it will be midnight and still no return of the game: twisted :: twisted :: twisted :: twisted: I think your association with United Games is not a success ...
http://translate.goo...ved=0CDEQ7gEwAA

[klymen]

From VR FaceBook page:

"PROTEST COMMITTEE NEWS:

The Protest Committee met this evening at 23:57 CET, 22:57 GMT, 14 November 2012 to discuss the issues facing the virtual Vendee Globe.

It was decided that at this time, no decision can be made regarding the race. However, the protest committee will meet again once more information is available and will then consider what steps to take.

The Protest Committee is made up of equal numbers of Virtual Regatta Staff and experienced players with sailing and race committee experience.
14 minutes ago"

Site is back up but race gives message 'You cannot join the race for now'

[stanlutz]

Back on, but you can't access the game but you can see your boat stats under MyVR > Panel & click on the Vendee race icon. Huh, I also found
DTS which I think is a 24hr distance record and a lowest ranking achieved classementrecord24h.

[gusmus]

Back on at last. 4 hours 40 mins downtime. That equates to about 90 fucking miles to the south I've lost.

[fogmachine]

Went to dinner, boat went into irons, lost 3000 places. Serves me right. Dinner was worth it.

[Rasputin22]

Back on after 5 hours of luffing into the new wind, lost about 20,000 places. I'm filing for redress, I was standing by to help a fellow competitor who rammed a fishing boat.

[rockshandy]

just got into the game there, after 5 or so hours head to wind. you would imagine they would just reset to where it crashed. people with options seem alright, but i have not paid a penny(dont have many pennies) and got stuck in irons. still up around 72k and near enough where the real boats are.

[edelweis]

Back on at last. 4 hours 40 mins downtime. That equates to about 90 fucking miles to the south I've lost.

Same here. Will set new course next time before the windshift. (audorf)

[Rasputin22]

Back on at last. 4 hours 40 mins downtime. That equates to about 90 fucking miles to the south I've lost.

Same here. Will set new course next time before the windshift. (audorf)

Yeah, how do you know when that is going to happen? I missed it by about 15 mins last time and got stuck in irons for 5 hours!

[gruffT]

people with options seem alright,

Nope. My scheduled course change didn't happen at 2005 so went slow west for a while rather than fast south - just watched WildThing sail on by!
Managed to head south about 2 hours ago, just went on to check before bedtime to find myself back hard on the wind on windpilot!? This game is unwell.

[dinghydoc]

I bought options (I travel a lot and needed unattended sailing to work) but the only combination I have found to be reliable so far is Autosails with a basic heading set. Waypoints especially have proven unreliable with unexpected changes in heading. The settings below have not failed me so far unlike other combinations. I suspect this company grossly underestimated the popularity of this event but didn't have the sense to lock it down before things imploded. Hope they sort it out.

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[Marvin]

people with options seem alright,

just watched WildThing sail on by!

I must admit I was pretty lucky there... I was already on the right course but should have switched from jib to spin on the wind change; didn't achieve optimum speed but was at least going the right way...

I'm glad I didn't spend money on this game this time around...

-WildThing

[us7070]

spent a day and a half getting to the west and then when i finally get there i spend 4 or 5hrs going slow w the wrong sail, and not really in the right direction

added another 20000 while waiting....

now its coming off.

there is nothing they can do to fix it

it's a net plus to the guys who stayed east and were in light air

[DRIFTW00D]

It worked 20.8 knots @180. lost little in the shut down. The counters running lost about 140,000 now at 47,000, LOL, will I get the last 40,000. or will the pro boats start to block the low numbers?Or Just find dirt as usual?

[briartrtpd..]

Current standings on 13/11/2012 17:05 UTC+1:

corinthians (no options):
WildThings : 5046
Brigand: 24521
Goat Rodeo: 47717
zetitop: 51584
Sintram: 53208
klymen: 79907
S/Y epoxy: 82901
Me Rongo: 100124
NorCalLaser : 124310
pogen: 205503
zetitop1: 101683

Training wheels on (all or some options):

Eau Gazeuse: 4299
GruffT: 5137
Billy no Mates SA: 7111
nwnordic44: 7379
busybeeoly: 56574

Did I miss anyone?

wing it

[gusmus]

I bought options (I travel a lot and needed unattended sailing to work) but the only combination I have found to be reliable so far is Autosails with a basic heading set. Waypoints especially have proven unreliable with unexpected changes in heading. The settings below have not failed me so far unlike other combinations. I suspect this company grossly underestimated the popularity of this event but didn't have the sense to lock it down before things imploded. Hope they sort it out.

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This game has been running in its present form or similar form for about ten years now. VOR, Velux 5, and Vendee all use it. Although it "Was" two different groups running it (now only one since the many players merger), it is the same basic engine that runs the game core and has seen little if any improvement or development since it first appeared, apart from a few GUI changes which are eye candy and don't affect the game itself. Every edition of every race has had problems with crashes, normally due to insufficient server capacity. Don't expect any miracles soon. Unlike the VOR, this race is only one leg and the payers have already paid. The players can now get stuffed since they now only need to keep their advertisers happy for the next 3 months. As for your setup. Have you used "AutoTWA"? That usually works fine. The problems always seem to arise from using "Waypoints".

[Cyrille Hydrogene]

I think Virtual Regatta servers were hit by a trawler last night. Can't see any other explanation.

[Rhyddid]

I think Virtual Regatta servers were hit by a trawler last night. Can't see any other explanation.

+1

[edelweis]

From French by Google:

"Updated: 15/10/2012, 10:20 CET:

The race committee will meet today at 13:00 GMT / 14:00 CET to analyze the impact of the disturbance last night on the entire fleet. Decision as a result of this consultation will be announced in the "news" section of the site as soon as possible.

The 14/11/2012, at the site www.virtualregatta.com suffered disruption causing a restriction of access to all the players participating in the Virtual Vendee Globe.

The race committee met tonight at 23:57 CET, 22:57 GMT, November 14, 2012 to study the problem that we have currently on the Virtual Vendee Globe.

It was concluded that, for the moment, no decision will be taken on the rest of the race. However, the committee will meet again when all the elements will come together for a fair decision is taken on all participating players.

The whole team is working to resolve this malfunction, and method therefore to analyze its causes and consequences generated.

Please kindly accept our apologies for the inconvenience.

The race committee"

[FAiRaWAY]

Cyrille Hydrogene:
Could you count me in as a newbie Anarchist?
boat FAiRaWAY, AO ; using pacotool, a really good calculator (but no routage)


I really can't make a decision right now... going to south-east this night and playing with fire (MP's servers) with the coast....?

[rb_stretch]

BTW Can anyone access the virtual regatta forums? I just keep getting a Google error.

[rhenders]

What is the purpose of the boat "VirtualRegattaNews"? It has a star icon above it differentiating it from other boats...


My Boat: Pigasus

[Marvin]

BTW Can anyone access the virtual regatta forums? I just keep getting a Google error.

I have been getting a message that states the forums were closed for updates or something to that effect since before the game has started...

[Cyrille Hydrogene]

BTW Can anyone access the virtual regatta forums? I just keep getting a Google error.

The VR forums have been put offline since the start of the race, to lighten the load on the servers, they say. It wasn't enough to prevent yet another fuckup yesterday.

Coincidentally, it's also a way to prevent any protest made by the users from being publicly visible.

Edit: Marvin explained it before I did.

[Cyrille Hydrogene]

Cyrille Hydrogene:
Could you count me in as a newbie Anarchist?
boat FAiRaWAY, AO ; using pacotool, a really good calculator (but no routage)


I really can't make a decision right now... going to south-east this night and playing with fire (MP's servers) with the coast....?

I've added your boat to the group!

East? Why would you want to go East? Do you want to cruise close to Africa? This no leisure cruise, Fairaway, this a race!

[elby]

no money in and still no routing software used... hutspot77
NOT UNHAPPY!

[swe727]

nice images of the fleet at Annexe des SO

http://vr-annexe.akr...g12.php?idsat=3

[dinghydoc]

nice images of the fleet at Annexe des SO

http://vr-annexe.akr...g12.php?idsat=3

At first I thought there was something wrong with the image! Then I got it!! That's what 100,000+ virtual boats look like plotted all at once. Cool.

Room at the mark...

[Sailing My Cubicle]

Pls add SailingMyCubicle to the list/group. Am full-sails etc.

[klymen]

Protest committee finding, in summary, is that players who went east with options should keep the advantage gained by the outage, whilst those who went west with no options should have bought options...

Not sure what they could do to be honest, but there it is.

See http://www.virtualre...hp?id_news=1634 for full details

[DRIFTW00D]

During the V VOR insiders / the committee included leg winner Micke SA member, some of a group called Team Tigers and others. The Tigers let me in during the V VOR. They are HARD core V races connected as a unit through emails & their moto "THE SIGN OF THE TIGER Tigers do not find worth in power or money. They will be completely honest about how they feel and expect the same of you." Im not sure they are in or active in this game. U could try to join.

[gusmus]

"The Protest Committee met today to analyse the availability of the game between 20:00 and midnight on November 14. The Committee is composed of Virtual Regatta players and staff members in equal proportion.
The Committee reviewed the following:

• the time the site was unavailable and its impact
• the length of the race already run and the time remaining
• the number of players involved
• different possible solutions

First, the Committee discussed the possibility of a restart or roll back. It was considered that some players had developed a long-term strategy based on wind forecasts several days in advance. Others had programmed their boats in advance or had changed the course of their boats before 20:00CET / 19:00GMT as a precaution and were not impacted.
Many players had made considerable effort to be in the position they had reached and did not suffer any impact and a restart of the race would undermine these players. Similarly, a rollback, but with real wind data, would also disadvantage those who had worked to a long term strategy based on weather data.
Accordingly, the Committee decided that it would not restart the race.
The Committee then considered compensation for players. The Committee took into consideration that players were disappointed, frustrated or angry. However, the role of the committee is to find a fair solution for the greatest number of players. It has been estimated that the provision of compensation would be unfair to the players already equipped.
In conclusion, the Committee decided that there was no way to offer fair compensation.
Considering all these factors, the committee found that no provision would compensate all participants equally. However it is not normal that no action is taken.
It was therefore decided to recommend to Many Players that a charitable donation is made towards a sea-based charity in recognition of the loyalty of the players."

It is the considered opinion of this player that "Many Players.SA" should make a charitable donation to the good of online game-playing in general by pissing off and finding some other enterprise to fuck-up. They have been a disaster from their initial existence.

[DRIFTW00D]

LOL Well said!!

On another note seems there is a cut off time for new input before the weather up date. A player missed the pre set and sat. Seems he miss his 57 min lockout time before the update at 59 min. So guess If im up or care I'll try to hit enter at the 55 min point 5 min before the wind up date.

All that driving and distance and Im back with the pack I was following made a little .

The light and iffy ahead looks challenging ? Im thinking about around 25.0000 W TCZ aiming point now, maybe. Seems the 32. W to 35. W usual TCZ transit area is a bit more east I'll be watching that area till iI get down there.

[Sailing My Cubicle]

Lemme guess, the Many Player's charity? How much will the donation be? Smells like those athlete "foundations" which employ all of the athlete's immediate family.

[FAiRaWAY]

Cyrille Hydrogene:
Could you count me in as a newbie Anarchist?
boat FAiRaWAY, AO ; using pacotool, a really good calculator (but no routage)


I really can't make a decision right now... going to south-east this night and playing with fire (MP's servers) with the coast....?

I've added your boat to the group!

East? Why would you want to go East? Do you want to cruise close to Africa? This no leisure cruise, Fairaway, this a race!

hope for a Cammas syndrom for the leaders....

[Maxion]

Lol what a joke this game is. The one over at liveskipper.com seems much better.

[gusmus]

East is starting to look promising. Good wind gradients inside C Verdes in 48 hours and the transit zone is east to centre as well. Worth keeping an eye open

[smellibits]

Cyrille Hydrogene:
Could you count me in as a newbie Anarchist?
boat FAiRaWAY, AO ; using pacotool, a really good calculator (but no routage)


I really can't make a decision right now... going to south-east this night and playing with fire (MP's servers) with the coast....?

I've added your boat to the group!

East? Why would you want to go East? Do you want to cruise close to Africa? This no leisure cruise, Fairaway, this a race!

Please add me too.

Upgrade sails, autosails and the thing where you can say shift course after you have had your moules et frite. Euros 19 or thereabouts.

On other stuff, whatever the, understable. whinges, I reckon it's a bit tough ripping at the organanisers to the extent that some have been inclined to do. Shit happens at sea, and shit happens with technology, and getting over it is what we're about.

In saying this,a bit of bias: I will admit that on the first freeze at N Finnisterre, where I'd looked to cut the corner too tight and was therefore heading slight north of west and lost 30 odd NM and dropped 20,000 places during that first freeze, albeit it was only an hour or two, ( but a virgin bear in mind, and these things affect the decision making processes - and other things - at those earliest, nervy beginnings ( although first time in, in another context, perhaps delusionally, in hindsight, I seem to recollect holding on for a long time, but here's not the time for pats on the back on that front )) I thought well I'm fucked ,so let's go desperate.But at the moment subject to the bravado, ignorance and general bollocks below, that's bourne out, but it isn't easy heading 120 degress off the course for what seemed an eternity ( virgin remember ).

Having digressed, thanks swe 727. Stunning.

Out of it I got the following;

Guys down the African coast are fucked, for the next 72 hours.

Guys at 25Nish and 24Wish are semi fucked, for the next 72 hours.

Guys behind the W Africa guys and the 25Nish/24Nish guys are seriosly fucked.

Guys out further west, relatively down the course, and who, in my humble opinion, get further west, will be in great shape - for quite a while.

More generally doldrums entry/exit very important, to state the blindingly obvious, and that's got to be the key strategy decision soon.

This is the first time I've done this or anything colourable.

So here are some other thoughts and questions as a virgin

- It's a bit compelling
- I like the thought that in January, there'll be people and boats I've got familar with and they with me, assuming no rant ( on my part ), and offski
- I'm trying to work the 72 hour wind predictions, but not easy: getting control of the in/out so you can get maximum wind prediction range is not easy
-I'm getting the feel of sails/speed/ wind angles, but not very clean on crossovers between heavy spinnaker and code 0. Thoughts?
Light gennaker not up yet. What wind speeds and angles does it work at?
- I feel lonely ( if I look at the moment on the site the nearest measurable boat is over 100 NM away). I would love the organisers to programme so at each 12 hour update, you have nearest boat, and next the nearest 10NM down the track ( whatever that means but eg within an arc of 10 degrees of where you are headed ). Someone to beat and someone to gun for, and someone, in turn, to gun for you.
- How do the wind forecasts work? Are they predetermined at the start of the race? I could understand an administrator perhaps looking to block guys in front and advantage those behind, and tighten up a race for collective pleasure. But that will also push some guys behind even further back. So I hope they're predetrmind - properly Corinthian. Probably in the rules, but who reads manuals, and wants to confess doing so in any sort of acceptable company?

[smellibits]

I'm being obtuse, perhaps.

Go where?

To the SW coast of the Replublic? I'll go there again in the next couple of years, but I can't play music that maudlin.

Sail old boats? I do, on a Thames barge built by Pauls in 1898.

Do enlighten please.

Thank you.

[DRIFTW00D]

virgin smellibits nice write up. First V race LOL

lonely go get some friends.

In the rankings friend boats near you in the standings. then send them a message "Want a race? "weeds out the slackers.

Wind is real NOAA grib stuff, todays world wide. But only two forecast time runs are used each day, same time every day. Future winds are todays real forecast run for future time which can change before the new wind on the game board is updated.

Two things.

I reckon it's a bit easy ripping at the organanisers to the extent that some have been inclined to do. Shit happens at sea, and shit happens with technology, and other games we have done over time the are Light years ahead...

#1 Now just

[smellibits]

Understood, and thank you, particularly for the basis of the wind predictions and the linkage. Will they be the right sort of friends?

A common language yet...

[gusmus]

I'm being obtuse, perhaps.

Go where?

To the SW coast of the Replublic? I'll go there again in the next couple of years, but I can't play music that maudlin.

Sail old boats? I do, on a Thames barge built by Pauls in 1898.

Do enlighten please.

Thank you.

RW Pauls didn't build barges. They were owners of barges. I presume you are talking about the "Anglia of London" which I thought was turned into a balloon barge during the 2nd world war and rotted. She was the only barge owned by RW Pauls built in Ipswich by Orvis and Fuller in 1898. The only other barges of that company that I know of that are still alive are the "Ena (built Harwich 1906)" and the "Lady Daphne (built Rochester 1923)". I used to sail the "Xylonite (MF Horlock & Sons)" with Tim Ellis when she was moored outside the "Prospect of Whitby" at Wapping Wall. I also have the bargemans bible open in front of me now "Sailing Barges by Frank G G Carr" which gives names, owners, builders, date of build, original callsigns, and company bobs. So stop getting your leaboards in a twist.

[smellibits]

You're right, and I've been sloppy, for which apologies.

The Marjorie was, I believe, built in 1902 by Orvis for Pauls.

She's in the Medway much of the time at Hooe, although winter time she often berths at St Kats dock.

She still races, but arguably less successfully since she had a sprit put on her - but more elegant of course, and lots more sails to play with.

By happenchance my better half and I bought a cottage sometime ago from a lady whose father had been, so we were told, the first skipper of the Marjorie, and she, the daughter, was named after her, the barge, and knowing of our connection passed over some of her father's memorabilia of his barge, for us to give to the current owner.

Going to get some kip before I commit more crass errors.

[gusmus]

Nice to know the Marjorie is still going strong even if she has now got a bowsprit. She spent quite a bit of time in St Kaths a few years back. Is the Pheonician still around? I first got into barging when old Albert Groom had her in Ipswich way back in the mid 1970,s.
Now. Back to this bloody race.

[Sailing My Cubicle]

1) For wind info - predictwind and passageweather.com are very helpful and free tools to study the weather patterns leading up to the next wind update.

2) It's perfectly acceptable to rip on the game developers. They collect money from players and advertisers and in return give both stakeholders a shoddy product that crashed twice over a four day period. Is acceptable? No. Is it acceptable considering the snafus and fubars that occurred during the virtual volvo race 11-12? Absolutely not. These guys have been running this program from several years now and the crashes and screwups continue to happen. What charity are they allegedly giving money too? Have you ever heard of a real protest committee doing that? No. Moreover, this "game" is really a competition. Winner gets a fancy watch. If it turns out that there was favoritism or any sort of malfeasance by the organizers in favor of the eventual winner, that is illegal.

[DRIFTW00D]

Hi Jack,







Phoenician in '09




Sailing barge Marjorie


Whitstable Lifeboat assisting the sailing barge Marjorie following a collision during the Swale Barge Match 2008r



So smelli-virgin-bits ah WTF happened?



I know take it to Barge Anarchy

[gusmus]

"So smelli-virgin-bits ah WTF happened?"

I reckon he was having a quick kip under the staysail without the AIS turned on,,,,,,,,, and hit a fucking trawler.

[rockshandy]

I've added your boat to the group!

Hi, could oyu add me to the group as well please? boat name is 'bruton' have not bought anything and knocking about in 32000th. trying to only check in twice a day so avoid the problem of addicition but its very early stages and i just downloaded the android app.....

[gusmus]

I've added your boat to the group!

Hi, could oyu add me to the group as well please? boat name is 'bruton' have not bought anything and knocking about in 32000th. trying to only check in twice a day so avoid the problem of addicition but its very early stages and i just downloaded the android app.....

Androids??? what the fuck are "Androids". Are they English through and through (Hoorah for St Harry)? or just another race of foreign wallies intent on upsetting the apple cart? Can't say if they'll accept you old boy, but shandy with rocks in is a bit out of our league. We prefer pink gins or rum'n'cokes I think,,, last time I looked "where's my glasses"?.
Of course SA will accept you. SA accepts all degenerates of the sailing fraternity (but it must be said,,, Girlfriends or wives tits must be shown or you be blackballed without even the courtesy of a rejection slip). I don't look at them myself... only a quick glance to make sure that there are no obvious tricks like false warts under the pubic,,,, AHEM,,,,, mamalian regions and also a quick check that they have not been previously displayed on "Cruising World". Who are reknowned for their degenerate behaviour and lack of humour. Bienvenue, Hello and welcome, Buenos, Whoooo just the fuck are yoooo Jimmy?, and from myself, You Ting'a'ling my ting'a'ling "Don't even think about it Seagoon", I'm walking backwards for Christmas, Acrossss de Irishhhhhh Seaaaaa.

[lupedelupe]

Just curious ... anyone know how the heck some players get the real 'branding' (Hugo Boss, MACIF etc) to appear on their virtual yachts?

[gusmus]

Just curious ... anyone know how the heck some players get the real 'branding' (Hugo Boss, MACIF etc) to appear on their virtual yachts?

Pay I think, Why you have to pay to advertise someone elses brand is beyond me, but, that is the twisted thinking of the assholes who run this show. Most companies run on "Service provided",,, This one runs on "Fools to be relieved of their cash and credit card balances".

[lupedelupe]

ˆ
Yep ... and amazingly they have managed to learn a grand total of f#$k-all since the PREVIOUS VIRTUAL VOR race.

[gusmus]

ˆ
Yep ... and amazingly they have managed to learn a grand total of f#$k-all since the PREVIOUS VIRTUAL VOR race.

Ahhh. but it's all gone into development of the game,,,, as we all saw from the last glorious crash. I wonder how much they really owe in taxes???.

[FAiRaWAY]

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour


but Eau gazeuse and Gruft are in sight ...

[busybeeolympia]

Arrg! My "Autosails" feature didn't work last night! Spent the last 7 hrs with the wrong sail up.

[gruffT]

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour

You're telling me. Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

[gusmus]

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour

You're telling me. Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

It really is. Ask any pioneer. We's a headin' west boy. Whurr ye' can dig up buffalope an squirrel nuggets as big as yer balls witout need'n a shovel.

[FAiRaWAY]

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour

You're telling me. Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

west is always best! we must be patient, it's gonna be a loooonnnnnnng way down.

[us7070]

Just curious ... anyone know how the heck some players get the real 'branding' (Hugo Boss, MACIF etc) to appear on their virtual yachts?

Pay I think, Why you have to pay to advertise someone elses brand is beyond me, but, that is the twisted thinking of the assholes who run this show. Most companies run on "Service provided",,, This one runs on "Fools to be relieved of their cash and credit card balances".

when i first started the game i had to choose one of the logo's - it didn't cost anything, and it was before i elected to get any options.

then, i saw a page where i could select my own colors, which i did,, but they didn't stick - and now i can't find a way back to that page.

[Marvin]

Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

I went west last time and it paid off... I fully expect to get my ass kicked very soon, although there appears to be some pressure developing along the coast...

- WildThing

[elby]

Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

I went west last time and it paid off... I fully expect to get my ass kicked very soon, although there appears to be some pressure developing along the coast...

- WildThing

But then again...Llook at the wind direction... West is best!

[stanlutz]

I have been to passageweather.com and looked the forecasts. It is difficult to flip flop between the game and the forecasts. and can't zoom out cause the arrows displeasure. Just trying to keep on truckin' south. It is almost a geometry game sailing from square to square. What general degree are people aiming for? Do you really think It would make a difference going way west to catch the winds? kinda like hopscotch...

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour

You're telling me. Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

west is always best! we must be patient, it's gonna be a loooonnnnnnng way down.

[DRIFTW00D]

Ya Virtual sailing ??hop scotch this game is!!

Some really fast guys in this group.

! ! * 0$ SAILORS * ! !

Administrated by : Prince Caspian

[stanlutz]

No kidding. I paid for the package. $30 US and getting a$$ kicked by $0 sailors. The no $ tracks go from cube to cube to cube. Very different from VORG.

[ronin]

Just curious ... anyone know how the heck some players get the real 'branding' (Hugo Boss, MACIF etc) to appear on their virtual yachts?

Pay I think, Why you have to pay to advertise someone elses brand is beyond me, but, that is the twisted thinking of the assholes who run this show. Most companies run on "Service provided",,, This one runs on "Fools to be relieved of their cash and credit card balances".

nope. you can select them for free when you first sign up and choose your boat

[Sailing My Cubicle]

I have been to passageweather.com and looked the forecasts. It is difficult to flip flop between the game and the forecasts. and can't zoom out cause the arrows displeasure. Just trying to keep on truckin' south. It is almost a geometry game sailing from square to square. What general degree are people aiming for? Do you really think It would make a difference going way west to catch the winds? kinda like hopscotch...

quite stressful to log in... each time it's to lose about 2000 places in one hour

You're telling me. Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

west is always best! we must be patient, it's gonna be a loooonnnnnnng way down.

Just have two browser windows open. Plus, passage weather is going to be more accurate in the hours leading up to the wind update than the game arrows, which are several hours old. The game arrows at the update are rarely consistent with what the game forecast was 12 hours prior. Take your lat and long from the game, match it up in passageweather and guesstimate from there.

[dinghydoc]

Dropped 15k places over the last 24 hours in a reposition to the west. Wild thing is now looking very sweet in 1500th. Shame as he virtually touched my bows as we split at the canaries! Hope west really is best!

I went west last time and it paid off... I fully expect to get my ass kicked very soon, although there appears to be some pressure developing along the coast...

- WildThing

But then again...Llook at the wind direction... West is best!

I'm sticking to the inside track for at least another day. I not seeing were West offers enough advantage to make up the difference? It looks like there is going to be a band of light air around 5-4N for all of us to get across. Looking forward to see which strategy pays off in the next couple days and whether those guys hugging the beach are really getting that much out of the effort they must be putting in.

[DRIFTW00D]

U training wheel guys try the beta a lot of fixes for some "Problems "ch notes

• Various fixes:
  * waypoints removal
  * sails images badly generated (needs to go back to customization) * display of some boats without sails
  * distances display
  * disabling auto TWA with the waypoints

[dinghydoc]

Thanks DRIFT. I'm riding on the shinny new training wheels. Hoping I don't end up in Brazil. I pretty much had all those problems except distances display. Don't know what that one is about.

[smellibits]

"So smelli-virgin-bits ah WTF happened?"

I reckon he was having a quick kip under the staysail without the AIS turned on,,,,,,,,, and hit a fucking trawler.

Wasn't on board. Port/ starboard incident. The Marjorie was hit on her port quarter, 20 or so feet from her stern. I'll say no more on responsibility. Kids were on board, playing down below near the impact point. No harm, but could have been worse by far. To avoid the very real risk of sinking she was immediately sailed onto a bank. Great job done in saving her. She's been very well repaired ( by Rob, who was in the salvage vid ). In my view she's one of the very most pleasing to the eye of all the barges.
Intended end of hijack.

[dinghydoc]

Those guys at the front have got to let go of the coastline soon. They gotta go SW. You guys out W should be able to reel them in a bit when they do.

[gusmus]

Those guys at the front have got to let go of the coastline soon. They gotta go SW. You guys out W should be able to reel them in a bit when they do.

It's a confusing one this. I bled from 15000th to 130000th up north around Madeira and then clawed back to 22000th until yesterday mprning when I was forced west again and bled back to 170000th. I'm now on 162000 and climbing back slowly. I think that my only hope is for the doldrums to block the front runners and then we'll catch up some. Those Africa hoppers may just squeeze through and pick up the easterlies south of the equator. Unlikely, but if they do they'll leave us for the vultures.