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[Tornado-Cat]

Light wind, foiling with the windward hull in the water, which tells their foil lift more than needeed but what kind of foils ?????

[amc]

ohhhh yeeaah voda vs LR

[Barnyb]

VodaFone and LR

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[the paradox of thrift]

Lots of wheelies and up/downs, but for the first day out, pretty good!

Photoshopped

[eric e]

if the boat is the same as etnz i guess it's just a matter of reading the instructions

to foil

if wind is 10knots

sail on a broad reach

set foils so the red mark is flush with top of case

grind boards to 3? degrees

sit back and enjoy the ride

[the paradox of thrift]

They were using L boards - not the same as ETNZ.

The boat looked bow up, stern down - but it was reasonably stable.

It looked good in not much breeze.

The board didn't snap in two and the cross beams are still intact so they've done better than the bigger-budget teams on their initial outing.

The week after next we may see the two boats go head-to-head.

[Tornado-Cat]

They were using L boards - not the same as ETNZ.

Thks.

Will TNZ let LR take the risk of using L boards in high wind ?

[maxmini]

They were using L boards - not the same as ETNZ.

Thks.

Will TNZ let LR take the risk of using L boards in high wind ?

Hasn't LR's check cleared ?

[eric e]

They were using L boards - not the same as ETNZ.

Thks.

Will TNZ let LR take the risk of using L boards in high wind ?

why woudn't they?

they would have a lot to learn and nothing to lose

[eric e]

They were using L boards - not the same as ETNZ.

The boat looked bow up, stern down - but it was reasonably stable.

It looked good in not much breeze.

The board didn't snap in two and the cross beams are still intact so they've done better than the bigger-budget teams on their initial outing.

The week after next we may see the two boats go head-to-head.

great!

so if the L boards work here

can we assume that part of the reason is because they are LARGE L boards and not the small L boards that oracle thought were required?

in which case when we see 17.2, and 17.1, they are likely to have large L foils

possibly further back than they were on 17.1

[nav]

the LR 'Ls' are fakes don't forget!

[Dirty technique]

great to see lr out and running. its pretty light today but enough to get you foiling so big gain learnd on the first day.
lr and etnz will be far removed in terms of design soon. i was interested when i heard someone say on close up that tnz had been out in 32kts. damn

[Ross 780]

Popped by on my way home. They were washing the hulls down very diligently before they put it on the cradle. The starboard foil was still in. I am not a cat sailor but I can say It was not an L shape. Rather the bottom of the L was curved upwards.

The port foil looked different, if it was there at all, ie they might already have removed it. At first I thought it was a foil albeit much, much smaller than what we see on ETNZ and the starboard foil still in place on LR72 as above. It looked like an L shape. The protrusion above the deck was around a metre.

Looks like they had a very good day. Everyone was standing around very relaxed.

[k1w1.ETNZ]

the LR 'Ls' are fakes don't forget!

Haha thats gonna bite you in the arse

[southseasbill]

the LR 'Ls' are fakes don't forget!

Haha thats gonna bite you in the arse

Remember you can tell the real ones from the fakes by the special paint.

[forss]

More photos

[punter]

More photos

No port side dagger board/foil?

[juniordave nz]

Looks like they only sailed with one foil in. Does anyone know if TNZ sold their foil package with the boat, or were they developed later? Because it seems that LR went off and developed their own the the SL33's

[tomtom]

More photos

No port side dagger board/foil?

Yeah that is weird - all the shots are with the port hull flying and no board... Either they didn't have one or they photoshopped it out to keep the suspense a little longer ??

[gorniele]

From the borlenghi Facebook page looks they sailed without foil on both sides, only a test for the rudders?

[jonsailor]

More photos

No port side dagger board/foil?

Yeah that is weird - all the shots are with the port hull flying and no board... Either they didn't have one or they photoshopped it out to keep the suspense a little longer ??

dosent look fast...no wobble or uncontrolled twist

[Landlockedlubber]

Lots of wheelies and up/downs, but for the first day out, pretty good!

Photoshopped

Seems you were correct if they were sailing sans foils. Unless they were levitating.......

[forss]

From the borlenghi Facebook page looks they sailed without foil on both sides, only a test for the rudders?

i guess you see one foil.

[eric e]

perhaps the LR boys had their own foil they wanted to test

or etnz lent? them an experimental?

or just a day to set a baseline before fitting the foils

for brits

silver dream racer

[Ross 780]

Have a look at my post earlier. I said the port foil was different to the starboard foil. It was much smaller and in the form of an L. I tried in looking at it to judge how big the plate was. It was about 4 or 5 open hand spans. It is there in the picture. If you look at the bottom of the hull directly below the vertical part of the dagger board, you can see a black short line,

[Rohanoz]

Who was steering?

[umpire]

perhaps the LR boys had their own foil they wanted to test

or etnz lent? them an experimental?

or just a day to set a baseline before fitting the foils

for brits

silver dream racer

Thanks for that Eric

How about Silver Dream Machine for LR

[Ross 780]

If you look at the photos on the facebook posting above no 11 and 14 you can see the smaller foil on the port hull..

[forss]

If you look at the photos on the facebook posting above no 11 and 14 you can see the smaller foil on the port hull..

i guess it is just a crane for foils.
but no foil in it.

[Ross 780]

Photo 14 on the facebook series shows it clearly underneath the hull.

[High Flow]

cool shit
who was an the steer?
anyone?

[eric e]

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[boby1]

it look like cammas posture but not sure

[MR.CLEAN]

Here are all the pics Carlo sent in. Credit Carlo Borlenghi/Luna Rossa

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[onimod]

it look like cammas posture but not sure

I thought it was Iker or Franck - not sure either

[kiwi_jon]

Dammit Janet Gannet, move

[Terry Hollis]

Dammit Janet Gannet, move

The Gannet would be good competition for an AC72 .. they can fly at 100 km/hr

[Tony-F18]

At first I thought the pics where slightly photoshopped (hdr look), but also know that Borlenghi would never do that, this thing just looks awesome out of the box!

[SimonN]

it look like cammas posture but not sure

I thought it was Iker or Franck - not sure either

I am pretty sure it's not Iker (too big and face doesn't look right behind the sunny's!)) and its not Chris Draper (he can clearly be seen on board). It isn't CJ. I think it is Franck, but it could be Max.

[Hastings]

In this photo it looks like Cammas.

He is a short and distinctive-looking man.

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[eric e]

that dan meyer with the black helmet?

[nav]

^^

the LR 'Ls' are fakes don't forget!

Haha thats gonna bite you in the arse

Quite likely - but it's the Orklander's who reported them sailing with an 'L'/'Ls' yesterday.
I see one board with a straight vertical element and again it's 'reported' to have a straight element below - set at an unknown angle but probably greater than 90°??
Where were your cameras?
So they got up on the one foil (and rudder/s) right - or is that subject to dispute also?

https://www.facebook...&type=3(click em if you like em big)

Twist looks good







All photos © LUNA ROSSA /Carlo Borlenghi Protected by copyright

[MR.CLEAN]

At first I thought the pics where slightly photoshopped (hdr look), but also know that Borlenghi would never do that, this thing just looks awesome out of the box!

CB's staff (he's got a few of them) do a lot of post-production. But no professional has used Photoshop for years.

[hoom]

Remember you can tell the real ones from the fakes by the special paint.

The strange thing is they haven't revealed the real hulls yet, this paint is far too glossy

Anyway: ETNZ went out first couple of days with only the one board so its not overly surprising that LR will follow suit.
ETNZ was presumably hiding the Scythe foils until they were sure it worked OK so it is kind of surprising & interesting that LR would have something they feel is worthy of hiding after having been so open on their launch day

While it would be bad for ETNZs chances I like the possibility of cloak & dagger secret & unexpected by ETNZ development shenanigans from LR.

[zillafreak]

No foiling pics? Did she really fly?

[hoom]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

[High Flow]

guess not

[VTsailor]

Popped by on my way home. They were washing the hulls down very diligently before they put it on the cradle. The starboard foil was still in. I am not a cat sailor but I can say It was not an L shape. Rather the bottom of the L was curved upwards.

The port foil looked different, if it was there at all, ie they might already have removed it. At first I thought it was a foil albeit much, much smaller than what we see on ETNZ and the starboard foil still in place on LR72 as above. It looked like an L shape. The protrusion above the deck was around a metre.

Looks like they had a very good day. Everyone was standing around very relaxed.

https://www.facebook...98083670&type=1

Check these FB pictures, they sailed without a port dagger/foil....... Why????????

[VTsailor]

Photo 14 on the facebook series shows it clearly underneath the hull.

Dumbass, that is just the exit for the dagger/foil....

[zillafreak]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

[~Stingray~]

In Italian, uploaded today

[Kiwing]

^ Looks like two L foils in the boat behind this interview.

Wish I could understand Italian, he is probably telling us all about how good it went.

[~Stingray~]

^ Sounded to me like he spoke about the accord with ETNZ, took a question about his role and who will helm, a few other things, wish I understood better too.

If I have my bearings right then by the shadow it would have been morning, probably waiting for the wind to pick up before heading out?

[LeeW]

Im really pleased that team Prada have got out there and are doing it, every team will take it slowly for a few days from launch. This team is a great addition to the line up, no pretense about them.

[amc]

^ Sounded to me like he spoke about the accord with ETNZ, took a question about his role and who will helm, a few other things, wish I understood better too.

If I have my bearings right then by the shadow it would have been morning, probably waiting for the wind to pick up before heading out?

I am sure that video was not shot yesterday

[Philippe_Chaplin]

At first I thought the pics where slightly photoshopped (hdr look), but also know that Borlenghi would never do that, this thing just looks awesome out of the box!

CB's staff (he's got a few of them) do a lot of post-production. But no professional has used Photoshop for years.

Been wondering about that too, HDR look also on some ETNZ pic, would love to know if some camera include an automatic HDR software correction or do some captors have a better dynamic range... (sorry for the hijack)

[Pasqua]

The video was not shot today. I had a quick look, probably the most important part is about his role. He is in the 'short' list of those who may helm the boat. He believes he is a better tactician than helmsman but he may have a post in the start having, with respect of the others, a more indepth knowledge of the match race. No decision taken but he wants to be ready should Max call him in the post.

[nav]

^^Thanks for the translation

Re the photos: I also noted the HDR look of many of CCs shots. They look great. Yes some cameras do have built in HDR capability - his was more like a machine gun though, clak, clak, clak, clak!

[Barnyb]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

I watched it foil on the webcam. Definetely foiled. A bit arse heavy, (Like OR72), but lee bow up and foil clearly visible below it. Would have taken a still but my mouth was open. Foiling on day one! This happened on the last run before leaving the channel and then going into the harbour near the city for the main photos we see now. Claearly day one went well so they had a little play on the way home.

[Tony-F18]

If it is HDR (which I doubt) it was done in post processing with camera in stepping mode.
The chrome of the hull reflects light coming from behind the camera, I think that accounts for the HDR effect.

[spitfire]

My excuses if it´s been published before

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[Tornado-Cat]

My excuses if it´s been published before

http://dja.dj/#/menu

^^ The AC in Cinecitta.

[nav]

My excuses if it´s been published before

http://dja.dj/#/menu

Sounds like CD doing the voice-over. This was the hollywood, water-cannon, studio thing right? edit: Or did they also get caught in the OTUSA17.1 rip current?

[bluelaser]

My excuses if it´s been published before

http://dja.dj/#/menu

Sounds like CD doing the voice-over. This was the hollywood, water-cannon, studio thing right?

Yes

[eric e]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

your call

mine is foiling

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[onimod]

At first I thought the pics where slightly photoshopped (hdr look), but also know that Borlenghi would never do that, this thing just looks awesome out of the box!

If they're straight out of the camera then I think he's just used some heavy active d-lighting (or the Canon equivalent).

[zillafreak]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

your call

mine is foiling

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Still a tough call. It also looks like a ghost with a ponytail if you squint hard enough. I have no reason to doubt the locals who saw it, but why didnt the "best photographer in the world" Borlenghi get even one shot foiling?

[Indio]

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

your call

mine is foiling

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Still a tough call. It also looks like a ghost with a ponytail if you squint hard enough. I have no reason to doubt the locals who saw it, but why didnt the "best photographer in the world" Borlenghi get even one shot foiling?

He probably shot it, just not allowed to post it...yet!

[Tornado-Cat]

Thanks for the shot eric e. Seemingly foiling with light wind, and for their second sailing day only. Do we know how many kts of wind they had ?

[amc]

Thanks for the shot eric e. Seemingly foiling with light wind, and for their second sailing day only. Do we know how many kts of wind they had ?

first day!

[skins]

They have a foil on the port side now?

What gives?

Edit: the wing has a black section I thought was the port board. Great pic

Foiling pics from the webcam here http://forums.sailin...00#entry3922677

Doesn't look like foiling to me. I see bow waves in all the pics. Can hardly see anything really, too low res.

your call

mine is foiling

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Still a tough call. It also looks like a ghost with a ponytail if you squint hard enough. I have no reason to doubt the locals who saw it, but why didnt the "best photographer in the world" Borlenghi get even one shot foiling?

He probably shot it, just not allowed to post it...yet!

[Tornado-Cat]

Not so often but I will make mine Tom's quote on his FB page today.


Tom Ehman Will be interesting when they start sailing against each other with different foils.

[Crux]

It seemed clear to me on the Spencer Webcam that on port tack coming down east coast bays and into the harbour that she was foiling but only in the gusts for about 15 - 30 seconds at a time and quite bow up. Most of the time the wind was very light and only a few puffs were 12 - 15 kn or so. Much as I would have expected as I don't think the foresails were full size.

[~Stingray~]

I bet they had the AOA in 'safe' mode, accounting for the bow-up you saw.

Re that cam image, it's almost like that damn boat reflects itself, or even reflects its own water image. Crazy..

Anyone have experience with a Nikon 5100? Stingette wants (she thinks..) that for her birthday.

[Tornado-Cat]

Anyone have experience with a Nikon 5100?

Considered to be a good cam but not ideal for fast action (http://www.dpreview....ews/nikond5100/). If you have a bit more budget go for the d800 or, better, D4

If you have Canon glass, go for the 5D mkIII or, (bigger budget) 1DX

[maxmini]

Based only on LR being the earliest to foil and possibly on the more " difficult foils "
as well they could be considered the team to beat at present . The student becomes the teacher Nice job guys .

[~Stingray~]

Anyone have experience with a Nikon 5100?

Considered to be a good cam but not ideal for fast action (http://www.dpreview....ews/nikond5100/). If you have a bit more budget go for the d800 or, better, D4

If you have Canon glass, go for the 5D mkIII or, (bigger budget) 1DX

Thanks

No expensive glass yet so the brand choice to start with is a factor for sure.

For taking shots of ladybugs on rose petals it all seems like overkill but it seems I am happiest when she is too.

[Tornado-Cat]

^^ for lady bugs ? Then go with her choice . Nikon 5100 will be perfect.

However think of what you want to have for the next AC, you could share some lenses (not the macro for you though). Nikon is now a bit cheaper than Canon.

Cameras are changing every year, therefore the key element is to invest in glass, and replace the cam every 3 years.

[~Stingray~]

Like nav pointed out, Chris C at TNZ has a camera that sounds like a machine gun.

The 5100 will do Iirc 4 FPS but a much faster FPS would definitely be cool for if she lets me use it too.

What is the camera CC used in the heli vid, does the XIFF image data specify?

[onimod]

It looks and sounds like a Nikon D4 (without looking too closely).
Just a rough look at the video suggests he had around $30K of gear with him for that flight - probably a bit more than you need for bugs in the backyard.

[Tornado-Cat]

It looks and sounds like a Nikon D4 (without looking too closely).
Just a rough look at the video suggests he had around $30K of gear with him for that flight - probably a bit more than you need for bugs in the backyard.

Correct, it seems to be a D4 + tele

[Tornado-Cat]

Like nav pointed out, Chris C at TNZ has a camera that sounds like a machine gun.

The 5100 will do Iirc 4 FPS but a much faster FPS would definitely be cool for if she lets me use it too.

What is the camera CC used in the heli vid, does the XIFF image data specify?

4 fps is OK, I don't think you need the 10 fps of the D4, even for 40 kts foiling cat.

The main advantage of pro cam are to be waterproof and have good low ISO, which allows you to take pictures with long tele at fast speed, in order to get sharp pictures.
However the price tag is high.

The reasonable choice for you would be to take a Nikon 5100 for her, and a 70-200mm zoom for you.

[High Flow]

I am absolutely sure that they have two foils on that webcam image. if the boat really is foiling (which I am not convinced ) then you can clearly see two foils under the hulls.

[Barnyb]

Up on foil

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[gorniele]

Great, where did you get this pic?

[onimod]

[camera anarchy]
In the video Chris has a D4($6K) with a 70-200vr2($2.4K) and a D3s/D3x($5.5-8K) with a 400vr ($9.5K).
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[umpire]

Up on foil

Great pic. How long before the ORites claim is photoshopped?

[Kiwing]

Up on foil

Looks like straight foils to me!!

[Tony-F18]

The 5100 will do Iirc 4 FPS but a much faster FPS would definitely be cool for if she lets me use it too.

The maximum FPS also depends on what type of memory you use, faster memory means less time neede between shots.
Remember that an expensive camera is no gaurantee for good pictures, take some lessons, read some books, and take lots of pictures to get better.
[/camera anarchy]

Anyway, I think our friends at LR have found a small "loophole" in the rules.
The rules talk about being allowed 10 sets of boards but doesnt say they have to be 5 pairs.
I think LR have rightly realized that this AC all boils down to foils, and they will not waste a single one of the 10 they are allowed to build.
When the LVC starts they will have the right boards + a spare set, which leaves just them which six opportunities to get it right, in the meantime they will sail upwind like a three legged pig

29.7. Daggerboard Limits
Each Competitor may build, acquire or otherwise obtain a maximum of ten AC72 Yacht Daggerboards,
provided:
(a) a Daggerboard is only included in this limit after it is first installed on any yacht; and
( a Daggerboard shall be deemed to be a new if more than 30% of its mass is replaced.

[Kiwing]

The 5100 will do Iirc 4 FPS but a much faster FPS would definitely be cool for if she lets me use it too.

The maximum FPS also depends on what type of memory you use, faster memory means less time neede between shots.
Remember that an expensive camera is no gaurantee for good pictures, take some lessons, read some books, and take lots of pictures to get better.
[/camera anarchy]

Anyway, I think our friends at LR have found a small "loophole" in the rules.
The rules talk about being allowed 10 sets of boards but doesnt say they have to be 5 pairs.
I think LR have rightly realized that this AC all boils down to foils, and they will not waste a single one of the 10 they are allowed to build.
When the LVC starts they will have the right boards + a spare set, which leaves just them which six opportunities to get it right, in the meantime they will sail upwind like a three legged pig

29.7. Daggerboard Limits
Each Competitor may build, acquire or otherwise obtain a maximum of ten AC72 Yacht Daggerboards,
provided:
(a) a Daggerboard is only included in this limit after it is first installed on any yacht; and
( a Daggerboard shall be deemed to be a new if more than 30% of its mass is replaced.

I think you are right!

Good spotting

[greenteamfan]

Up on foil

Don't see a hole in the water like on the ETNZ pic. The future?

[hoom]

Anyway, I think our friends at LR have found a small "loophole" in the rules.
The rules talk about being allowed 10 sets of boards but doesnt say they have to be 5 pairs.

There is no surprise in this & LR wouldn't be the first team out with different foils in each hull eg Oracle when it capsized & ETNZ has different rudders on in the latest aerial shots.

[nav]

Anyway, I think our friends at LR have found a small "loophole" in the rules.
The rules talk about being allowed 10 sets of boards but doesnt say they have to be 5 pairs.

There is no surprise in this & LR wouldn't be the first team out with different foils in each hull eg Oracle when it capsized & ETNZ has different rudders on in the latest aerial shots.

There appeared to be only one of each of the SL33 trial foils as well.
The fact that OTU17.1 had two different boards was not through a clever choice!
If the boards take anything like as long to produce as OTU would have us believe you would be crazy to produce two to test one - even without the 10 foil max restriction.
I made this point and the similar one that applies to the max number of spar tubes halves - in theory they need not be 'paired' either.

I looked at the ETNZ aerial shots again but don't see what you are with regard to the rudders. Can you post the right shots? (Shame they always stay the right way up - making it so difficult to see the foils)

They are not travelling at correct ploughing speed, so no properly turned sod!
But if hole = stability, quickness to foil, ease of control, faster manoeuvres and less time required between manoeuvres (and assuming any truly excess drag will be removed incrementally with each new foil) which of these features would you give away?

[Tornado-Cat]

Amazing,..... on the first day, seemingly on T foils and with light wind. Anybody can tell is the flight was stable ?
What a slap on the face for AR and OR.


America's Cup: Luna Rossa foils on Day 1 - with single foil

'Luna Rossa’s AC72 foiling on Friday November 2, 2012 - with only one daggerboard installed' Luna Rossa Challenge 2013 Click Here to view large photo


Luna Rossa Challenge were able to get their AC72 foiling on their first day of sailing on the Hauraki Gulf on Friday (NZT)

It was the first day of sailing for the Italian America's Cup Challenger starting in light winds which slowly increased top around 15 knots.

The AC72 sailed with only one foil, which was a little limiting however from an image from a team member's Facebook page it would seem that Luna Rossa were able to get foiling - an impressive feat in the circumstances. Other teams have been able to foil on their fourth day of sailing, which has become a benchmark.

To hear an interview with Luna Rossa's Matteo Plazzi and Newstalk ZB's Peter Montgomery click here and the interview starts at 10.30 the second part can be heard by clicking here

by Richard Gladwell
http://www.sail-worl...gle-foil/103466

[domen_]

Impressive

[~Stingray~]

Does look good, very good.

Has anyone compared the LR foil to the one ETNZ was christened with?

[luminary]

Amazing,..... on the first day, seemingly on T foils and with light wind. Anybody can tell is the flight was stable ?
What a slap on the face for AR and OR.


America's Cup: Luna Rossa foils on Day 1 - with single foil

'Luna Rossa’s AC72 foiling on Friday November 2, 2012 - with only one daggerboard installed' Luna Rossa Challenge 2013 Click Here to view large photo


Luna Rossa Challenge were able to get their AC72 foiling on their first day of sailing on the Hauraki Gulf on Friday (NZT)

It was the first day of sailing for the Italian America's Cup Challenger starting in light winds which slowly increased top around 15 knots.

The AC72 sailed with only one foil, which was a little limiting however from an image from a team member's Facebook page it would seem that Luna Rossa were able to get foiling - an impressive feat in the circumstances. Other teams have been able to foil on their fourth day of sailing, which has become a benchmark.

To hear an interview with Luna Rossa's Matteo Plazzi and Newstalk ZB's Peter Montgomery click here and the interview starts at 10.30 the second part can be heard by clicking here

by Richard Gladwell
http://www.sail-worl...gle-foil/103466

Clearly photoshopped. There is no hole.

[umpire]

Amazing,..... on the first day, seemingly on T foils and with light wind. Anybody can tell is the flight was stable ?
What a slap on the face for AR and OR.


America's Cup: Luna Rossa foils on Day 1 - with single foil

'Luna Rossa’s AC72 foiling on Friday November 2, 2012 - with only one daggerboard installed' Luna Rossa Challenge 2013 Click Here to view large photo


Luna Rossa Challenge were able to get their AC72 foiling on their first day of sailing on the Hauraki Gulf on Friday (NZT)

It was the first day of sailing for the Italian America's Cup Challenger starting in light winds which slowly increased top around 15 knots.

The AC72 sailed with only one foil, which was a little limiting however from an image from a team member's Facebook page it would seem that Luna Rossa were able to get foiling - an impressive feat in the circumstances. Other teams have been able to foil on their fourth day of sailing, which has become a benchmark.

To hear an interview with Luna Rossa's Matteo Plazzi and Newstalk ZB's Peter Montgomery click here and the interview starts at 10.30 the second part can be heard by clicking here

by Richard Gladwell
http://www.sail-worl...gle-foil/103466

Clearly photoshopped. There is no hole.

Told you it wouldn't be long before the first ORite came along!

[DA-WOODY]

That's BITCHIN

how long till TNZ launches their 3rd (LR-2) ??

Last boat to be built will be TNZ-4



DRILL som holes and let's get to the bottom of things

[Doug Lord]

Great piece here by Sir Peter Blake for Luna Rosa 2000: http://www.lunarossa...c/blake.en.html