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[sailman]

What I found on the beach at my club. Missed my boat thank God!

Looks like they put that mooring a little too close to the beach....

[Foolish]

Did you hear that on the Bounty, one of the dead is Claudene Christian, a direct decendent of Fletcher Christian himself.

[Left Hook]

Further Updates that I can gather from facebook:

Oakcliff sailing center: All of the swedish match 40's sunk.
Raritan YC: all boats, buildings, gin pole, fences, gas/diesel tanks, locker rooms, stairs to clubhouse gone. Supports to 1st & 2nd floor decks comprised. Perth Amboy Marina almost a total loss.
Some houses burned in Greenwich.
Larchmont: Flooding & damage in the pool area, unclear as to what else has been damaged.
Cedar Point YC: All fine but for some dinghies which went on walkabout & were recovered. Lots of erosion.

Carina & Kevin, what's the story at AYC? Anyone have further info on Larchmont and the boats at other clubs?

[SailRacer]

LH, I do not know you but, you called this storm last week with the Euro Model.

Bastard.

[Reht]

Ouch. I hope some of the boats that have sunk can be recovered and the damaged yacht clubs can be repaired without total loss of the buildings. Houses burning and cities flooding, I'm thankful I'm far enough north we won't get the same treatment...

[SemiSalt]

It appears that in Stamford, the storm surge was just about as predicted, 11+ feet. My boat is at Halloween YC which had minor damage, but the boats in the water seem to be fine. A couple of boats stored on land were tossed about a bit. Water in the clubhouse reached a few inches higher than the worst I've seen before, perhaps 18 inches. The debris line on the hurricane barrier was 6-7 feet below the top. The pilings holding the docks are just about as high as the barrier.

On land, below the Merritt, damage is scattered and electrical service is spotty. I've talked to a couple of people from north of the PKWY and Greenwich, and they say damage in the woodsy places is extensive. The roar of generators is everywhere.

[mr_ryano]

Anyone been out to Sail Newport yet? Hope the surge stayed out of the dinghy drystall

[pogen]

A bunch of striking hurricane photos with artsy filters applied


http://instacane.com/

[Left Hook]

Anyone been out to Sail Newport yet? Hope the surge stayed out of the dinghy drystall

We were there at low tide and the waves were breaking over the bulkhead. Hope your boat is okay.

[jewing]

Anyone up for a Laser spin through Queens?

http://www.nytimes.c...l?smid=pl-share

[couchsurfer]

A bunch of striking hurricane photos with artsy filters applied


http://instacane.com/

...those photo's show a lot

...though I'm thinking someone had a bit of fun with photosop as well....

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[couchsurfer]

Anyone up for a Laser spin through Queens?

http://www.nytimes.c...l?smid=pl-share

,,,Decapo-could it be??

[peculier]

A Laser in Queens:

[Left Hook]

Lots of good damage and prep photos on the MTA flickr page: http://www.flickr.co...otos/mtaphotos/
Tons of updates on the CNN liveblog: http://news.blogs.cn...rath/?hpt=hp_t1

[Hobie Dog]

We're definitely getting some more wind now - gusts in the mid/upper 30's with constant mid 20's. Wind is from roughly 235, which less protection from the land for us which is probably why what we're seeing is much closer to what the buoy outside Deltaville in the Bay was showing than we've been all day.

How did it go?

Sandy went more North and really sped up before landfall. That really helped the Chesapeake region. In and around Solomons I have not even seen a single tree down. No boat damage that I know of. Tide is up a little, cold and wet but storm is over for us.

Obviously those North of Delaware Bay were not as lucky. Stay safe!

[DA-WOODY]

if it's of any consolation

untill the Market opens again

FaceBook Stock is predicted to hold where it's at

[DryArmour]

Hurricane Sandy was all she was advertised to be and more. The predicted massive water pile up in lower Manhattan met or exceeded predictions and the flooding of the subway system came as little surprise but it could have been much worse. If Sandy had maintained a forward speed of just 14 knots the surge and the water buildup would have been significantly worse. While there was some catastrophic damage and loss of life, they were not as bad as they could have been and I am glad to hear that for the most part those of you who took precautions and planned ahead fared pretty well.

Thoughts are with all of you who lost property or had a family member or friend injured or worse. The East Coasters are a hearty lot and I am pretty sure that by tourist season next summer almost everything will be back in place and looking good with the possible exception of some of the beach eroded areas. They too will rebuild over time.

Please keep the video and pictures coming. I am constantly wowed by the force of mother nature and like to be reminded that while we can predict catastrophic events there isn't anything our species can do to prevent them from occurring. Living near the shore has its risks as does going to sea...and they are both worth it.

[VwaP]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=g_iYTwPdkeY

[DA-WOODY]

Could Not have been said better (by anyone else)

[couchsurfer]

Could Not have been said better (by anyone else)

that bad eh--even the airbags deployed

[OBW]

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[dacapo]

Anyone up for a Laser spin through Queens?

http://www.nytimes.c...l?smid=pl-share

,,,Decapo-could it be??

that's where it went....

actually, mine's red...should be down in NY Harbor in a few days if anyone sees it ;-)

[atoyot]

Some pics from the Delaware coastline. Mostly eroded beaches and moistened first floors/basements.. nothing like Manhattan or the Jersey shore so I feel for those guys who have a lot more mopping up and rebuilding to do.

This beach was ~50 yards to the left on Sunday...

[mad]

Hurricane Sandy was all she was advertised to be and more. The predicted massive water pile up in lower Manhattan met or exceeded predictions and the flooding of the subway system came as little surprise but it could have been much worse. If Sandy had maintained a forward speed of just 14 knots the surge and the water buildup would have been significantly worse. While there was some catastrophic damage and loss of life, they were not as bad as they could have been and I am glad to hear that for the most part those of you who took precautions and planned ahead fared pretty well.

Thoughts are with all of you who lost property or had a family member or friend injured or worse. The East Coasters are a hearty lot and I am pretty sure that by tourist season next summer almost everything will be back in place and looking good with the possible exception of some of the beach eroded areas. They too will rebuild over time.

Please keep the video and pictures coming. I am constantly wowed by the force of mother nature and like to be reminded that while we can predict catastrophic events there isn't anything our species can do to prevent them from occurring. Living near the shore has its risks as does going to sea...and they are both worth it.

Thanks for all the updates, I've learned a lot about tropical storms over the years from your input.

[Sheethead]

Haycock Point Branford CT

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[U20guy2]

Hurricane Sandy was all she was advertised to be and more. The predicted massive water pile up in lower Manhattan met or exceeded predictions and the flooding of the subway system came as little surprise but it could have been much worse. If Sandy had maintained a forward speed of just 14 knots the surge and the water buildup would have been significantly worse. While there was some catastrophic damage and loss of life, they were not as bad as they could have been and I am glad to hear that for the most part those of you who took precautions and planned ahead fared pretty well.

Thoughts are with all of you who lost property or had a family member or friend injured or worse. The East Coasters are a hearty lot and I am pretty sure that by tourist season next summer almost everything will be back in place and looking good with the possible exception of some of the beach eroded areas. They too will rebuild over time.

Please keep the video and pictures coming. I am constantly wowed by the force of mother nature and like to be reminded that while we can predict catastrophic events there isn't anything our species can do to prevent them from occurring. Living near the shore has its risks as does going to sea...and they are both worth it.

Thanks for all the updates, I've learned a lot about tropical storms over the years from your input.

Same here. The spooky thing is that these storms could happen again heck they could get another one in short order though highly unlikely but still. Some co-workers in the NY area are starting to surface today. A few reporting in a tad soggy but otherwise fine. Others are in full tree removal with fingers crossed power and services come back soon etc.

[Touch of Gray]

Pashaw! Nothing against those that were impacted but it sure looks like the 1962 Ash Wednesday Storm did more damage to the coast. Cut new inlets in Jersey. My family had (still has) a home in Bay Head. This video was taken on the same street and the house can be seen in a couple shots. In 1962 the house at the ocean end went to sea! It belonged to a relative. And no one was hanging around! http://www.courierpo...Dunes-10-29-12-

Grandfather designed and built the house. Said he would NEVER put a house on the beach front so it was a block back

After the Ash Wednesday storm http://www.youtube.c...h?v=s1vA2Uq9YjM the house was surrounded by 2-4 feet of sand. My dad bought a wheelbarrow and handed me a shovel, and for days thereafter I moved sand from the yard to the street where the City loaded it up and put it back on the beach!

TOG

[DA-WOODY]

Pashaw! Nothing against those that were impacted but it sure looks like the 1962 Ash Wednesday Storm did more damage to the coast. Cut new inlets in Jersey. My family had (still has) a home in Bay Head. This video was taken on the same street and the house can be seen in a couple shots. In 1962 the house at the ocean end went to sea! It belonged to a relative. And no one was hanging around! http://www.courierpo...Dunes-10-29-12-

Grandfather designed and built the house. Said he would NEVER put a house on the beach front so it was a block back

After the Ash Wednesday storm the house was surrounded by 2-4 feet of sand. My dad bought a wheelbarrow and handed me a shovel, and for days thereafter I moved sand from the yard to the street where the City loaded it up and put it back on the beach!

TOG

I'v had sum Happy Thoughts about you 2 Lately (last few daz)

Happy that You found someone so nice

and happy that they GTFO of what has to be Pure Hell at the moment (or close to it)

Tough having Family back in the N-East Hope All are Safe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

We've been very fortunate, about 20 miles west of Boston. Boat is safely in the shed, well inland and above the storm surge. Lost power when a limb fell on a power line, which blew up the transformer that serves us and a couple of our neighbors. We got restored in about 22 hours. I told the supervisor that whatever we're paying you guys (town employees), it's not enough. No other damage.

Thoughts are with those who did not make out so well.

[CrazyR]

Great Kills Harbor on Staten Island, NY was very much wiped out

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[CrazyR]

should I continue?

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[CrazyR]

Nicholson marina on the windward side of the bay was lifted out of the piling and slammed into fancy condos on opposite side of the bay.
row by row, one dock after another. I shoot some videos after the storm, I apologize for the quality of both video and sound. My boat is very happy at her mooring, one of very few boats still intact in the bay.

[DRIFTW00D]

How long till freeze up there? Im thinking the ice will be eating a bunch of broken boats this winter.

[Sean]

Rare in December ( maybe very late), January more likely. Didn't have much ice at all last year

[USA190520]

Cape may:

[Trendsetter]

From the pictures and video the boat damage doesn't look bad at all. All minor stuff no sinkings no major holing's

[USA190520]

You ain't seen nothin'.
Entire marinas are on streets in some parts

[The Owner]

I am in the insurance business. We took hundreds of claims today. Only the beginning. We have entire marinas in the streets. Tens of millions $ of boats piled up. We have houses that have 3-5 feet of water in them that haven't flooded ever. We have total house fires. Trees fallen on houses is like a non event compared to water damage.

[DA-WOODY]

I am in the insurance business. We took hundreds of claims today. Only the beginning. We have entire marinas in the streets. Tens of millions $ of boats piled up. We have houses that have 3-5 feet of water in them that haven't flooded ever. We have total house fires. Trees fallen on houses is like a non event compared to water damage.

and those who are forced to have Flood Insurance shall get an increase

Not much chance to be protected properly by insurance when they make you place your Bet on what you think may happen

People should be offered Catastrophic Event Coverage:

Be It Flood - Eartkquake - Valcano - SinkHole or "WHATEVER"

But No you have to Pick & Pay and most likely something else will take you out

If Everyone w CEC payed into the Pool that had to pay out to events like this it would Not Break the Bank

Flood insurance shall Not Cover the Ocean coming into your house "IF you had it in the first place

All the boats insured are likely covered - Houses ?????????????????

[gimmee]

I am in the insurance business. We took hundreds of claims today. Only the beginning. We have entire marinas in the streets. Tens of millions $ of boats piled up. We have houses that have 3-5 feet of water in them that haven't flooded ever. We have total house fires. Trees fallen on houses is like a non event compared to water damage.

and those who are forced to have Flood Insurance shall get an increase

Not much chance to be protected properly by insurance when they make you place your Bet on what you think may happen

People should be offered Catastrophic Event Coverage:

Be It Flood - Eartkquake - Valcano - SinkHole or "WHATEVER"

But No you have to Pick & Pay and most likely something else will take you out

If Everyone w CEC payed into the Pool that had to pay out to events like this it would Not Break the Bank

Flood insurance shall Not Cover the Ocean coming into your house "IF you had it in the first place

All the boats insured are likely covered - Houses ?????????????????

Don't ever expect insurance to pay. In 2007 our bank suggested we increase our insurance for storm damage following the 2004 tsunami. The bank had a joint venture with Allianz Insurance so we duly upped our coverage as the resort property was mortgaged to the bank. Well the next year, an almighty three day storm dropped 1000 mm on us causing our transformer to blow together with all the a/c and refrigeration compressors resulting in $50,000 of damage and having to rewire the whole property.The Insurance assessors arrived to view the damage then a few days later and disallowed our claim reasoning " you suffered water damage not rain damage"! Go figure....and yet when they take your money, they do not inspect what they are insuring. Screw 'em !

[Tom Ray]

From the pictures and video the boat damage doesn't look bad at all. All minor stuff no sinkings no major holing's

Scroll back up and watch Crazy R's videos.

[TPG]

I am in the insurance business. We took hundreds of claims today. Only the beginning. We have entire marinas in the streets. Tens of millions $ of boats piled up. We have houses that have 3-5 feet of water in them that haven't flooded ever. We have total house fires. Trees fallen on houses is like a non event compared to water damage.

and those who are forced to have Flood Insurance shall get an increase

Not much chance to be protected properly by insurance when they make you place your Bet on what you think may happen

People should be offered Catastrophic Event Coverage:

Be It Flood - Eartkquake - Valcano - SinkHole or "WHATEVER"

But No you have to Pick & Pay and most likely something else will take you out

If Everyone w CEC payed into the Pool that had to pay out to events like this it would Not Break the Bank

Flood insurance shall Not Cover the Ocean coming into your house "IF you had it in the first place

All the boats insured are likely covered - Houses ?????????????????

Don't ever expect insurance to pay. In 2007 our bank suggested we increase our insurance for storm damage following the 2004 tsunami. The bank had a joint venture with Allianz Insurance so we duly upped our coverage as the resort property was mortgaged to the bank. Well the next year, an almighty three day storm dropped 1000 mm on us causing our transformer to blow together with all the a/c and refrigeration compressors resulting in $50,000 of damage and having to rewire the whole property.The Insurance assessors arrived to view the damage then a few days later and disallowed our claim reasoning " you suffered water damage not rain damage"! Go figure....and yet when they take your money, they do not inspect what they are insuring. Screw 'em !

Were you in a flood zone? And did you have flood insurance?

[BarePoles]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

[gimmee]

I am in the insurance business. We took hundreds of claims today. Only the beginning. We have entire marinas in the streets. Tens of millions $ of boats piled up. We have houses that have 3-5 feet of water in them that haven't flooded ever. We have total house fires. Trees fallen on houses is like a non event compared to water damage.

and those who are forced to have Flood Insurance shall get an increase

Not much chance to be protected properly by insurance when they make you place your Bet on what you think may happen

People should be offered Catastrophic Event Coverage:

Be It Flood - Eartkquake - Valcano - SinkHole or "WHATEVER"

But No you have to Pick & Pay and most likely something else will take you out

If Everyone w CEC payed into the Pool that had to pay out to events like this it would Not Break the Bank

Flood insurance shall Not Cover the Ocean coming into your house "IF you had it in the first place

All the boats insured are likely covered - Houses ?????????????????

Don't ever expect insurance to pay. In 2007 our bank suggested we increase our insurance for storm damage following the 2004 tsunami. The bank had a joint venture with Allianz Insurance so we duly upped our coverage as the resort property was mortgaged to the bank. Well the next year, an almighty three day storm dropped 1000 mm on us causing our transformer to blow together with all the a/c and refrigeration compressors resulting in $50,000 of damage and having to rewire the whole property.The Insurance assessors arrived to view the damage then a few days later and disallowed our claim reasoning " you suffered water damage not rain damage"! Go figure....and yet when they take your money, they do not inspect what they are insuring. Screw 'em !

Were you in a flood zone? And did you have flood insurance?

Yes we had flood insurance but were'nt flooded just soaked. It is the small print they catch you on; flood, rain, water, because we were not flooded, no case ! and you wonder why they have the biggest buildings in any city !

[USA190520]

The best insurance is preparation and forethought

That also goes for reading what you're signing.

[DryArmour]

What exactly is a "Flood". According to the dictionary I just read: "1. An overflowing of water onto land that is normally dry." Hmmmm

[ssi]

The best insurance is preparation and forethought

That also goes for reading what you're signing.

Tell that to all the people downtown NYC, Staten Island and Brooklyn, you fucking self-absorbed dunce.

[mad]

What exactly is a "Flood". According to the dictionary I just read: "1. An overflowing of water onto land that is normally dry." Hmmmm

I'm sure Wofsey would be able to define it.

Edit

Thinking about, it could well be Wofsey that writes the reams and reams of small print that insurance companies hide behind.

[DryArmour]

<snip>

As with all tropical systems, they go where they want and no model handles each and every one perfectly or I would be out of a job.

So if you live anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard you should stay apprised of the forecast and be prepared to protect life and property until Sandy follows makes the right turn and heads for the Mid Atlantic Ridge...More later if things get more interesting....

That's not good enough, Mark. If your predictions fail, I'll have an Italian court prosecute and sentence you to 6 years in prison.

Hey now... We got it right literally seven days out. Near the top of the thread we called the location, time of landfall and intensity pretty close.

Missed the final landfall by about 200 miles (not bad from 1500+ miles away)
Estimated central pressure 946mb. I think it landed as 942mb but that may not be right (anyone, I am too tired to debrief right now?)
Time of landfall predicted on Monday, October 23rd was for Sandy to hit at 2PM PDT (5PM EDT) Missed by a couple of hours. Overall...pretty close.

Many thanks to the GFS and EURO models and to PredictWind.com for providing amazing forecast tools.

My thoughts are with you all in the affected areas. While we can predict what hurricanes will do, we can't stop them, only get people the word as early as possible so that they can prepare and then hope for the best.

[Snaggletooth]

The best insurance is preparation and forethought

That also goes for reading what you're signing.

Tell that to all the people downtown NYC, Staten Island and Brooklyn, you fucking self-absorbed dunce.

Hese tiping in generalties, stoppe sucking the bittere roote.

[USA190520]

The best insurance is preparation and forethought

That also goes for reading what you're signing.

Tell that to all the people downtown NYC, Staten Island and Brooklyn, you fucking self-absorbed dunce.

I live in So NJ 500yds from the coast .... The eye came ashore within a few miles of me..So, yeah, you can suck it you ignorant fuck...

Where are you today? I'm shoveling sand, moving debris and thanking god my prep worked.

[DryArmour]

The best insurance is preparation and forethought

That also goes for reading what you're signing.

Tell that to all the people downtown NYC, Staten Island and Brooklyn, you fucking self-absorbed dunce.

I live in So NJ 500yds from the coast .... So, yeah, you can suck it you ignorant fuck...

Where are you today? I'm shoveling sand, moving debris and thanking god my prep worked...

I am sorry you had to go through this but glad your prep worked. Is the sand you are shoveling brought in by water or just wind? If you know your elevation there I would be curious to know that as well. Stay positive. Things will improve.

[Left Hook]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Larchmont got hit pretty bad. Docks are messed up, lower level of the clubhouse damaged as well as the Pandemonium. Pool area got hit again.

Waiting on Carina & Kevin to get power back so we can hear about American.

[USA190520]

Mark, ocean, sand from surge...

Wind driven sand was non issue, surge on astronomical tide... 20' waves- etc etc.

I'll get you actual elevations for research purposes shortly. I've got good info from this one.. I'll email you some stuff later

[PeterHuston]

Mark, ocean, sand from surge...

Wind driven sand was non issue, surge on astronomical tide... 20' waves- etc etc.

I'll get you actual elevations for research purposes shortly. I've got good info from this one.. I'll email you some stuff later

Having lived through an ice storm and no power for 8 days, downed trees all around, and a family member with pretty serious pneumonia, no electricity/heat for a day until we got the generator hooked up I can say I feel your pain.

But how the heck are you even able to post? Do you have electricity? How do you connect, via cell? I ended up going to a local Panera Bread that became the defacto town hall for a week, one of the few places where you could get wifi and access to the outside world. Other than battery powered am/fm radio, it was the only way for many communicate who did not have a generator.

The most amazing thing about the aftermath of storms like this is how a residential neighborhood quickly bonds and shares resources. Hope you have the same experience with your neighbors as I did with mine.

[SailAR]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Stamford lost the pier and dockhouse. Floating docks were miraculously still there, but you couldn't get to them to see what shape they were in. The sand/leaf line on the front lawn got to within 5 ft of the clubhouse and stopped. About 2 feet of sand in the lower lot. They had moved all the launches and RC boat up behind the huricane barrier, so they should be okay.

[Throatwarbler-Mangrove]

<snip>

As with all tropical systems, they go where they want and no model handles each and every one perfectly or I would be out of a job.

So if you live anywhere on the Eastern Seaboard you should stay apprised of the forecast and be prepared to protect life and property until Sandy follows makes the right turn and heads for the Mid Atlantic Ridge...More later if things get more interesting....

That's not good enough, Mark. If your predictions fail, I'll have an Italian court prosecute and sentence you to 6 years in prison.

Hey now... We got it right literally seven days out. Near the top of the thread we called the location, time of landfall and intensity pretty close.

Missed the final landfall by about 200 miles (not bad from 1500+ miles away)
Estimated central pressure 946mb. I think it landed as 942mb but that may not be right (anyone, I am too tired to debrief right now?)
Time of landfall predicted on Monday, October 23rd was for Sandy to hit at 2PM PDT (5PM EDT) Missed by a couple of hours. Overall...pretty close.

Many thanks to the GFS and EURO models and to PredictWind.com for providing amazing forecast tools.

My thoughts are with you all in the affected areas. While we can predict what hurricanes will do, we can't stop them, only get people the word as early as possible so that they can prepare and then hope for the best.

Mark,
Excellent call. Thanks, as always, for sharing your expertise with us.

[USA190520]

Mark, ocean, sand from surge...

Wind driven sand was non issue, surge on astronomical tide... 20' waves- etc etc.

I'll get you actual elevations for research purposes shortly. I've got good info from this one.. I'll email you some stuff later

Having lived through an ice storm and no power for 8 days, downed trees all around, and a family member with pretty serious pneumonia, no electricity/heat for a day until we got the generator hooked up I can say I feel your pain.

But how the heck are you even able to post? Do you have electricity? How do you connect, via cell? I ended up going to a local Panera Bread that became the defacto town hall for a week, one of the few places where you could get wifi and access to the outside world. Other than battery powered am/fm radio, it was the only way for many communicate who did not have a generator.

The most amazing thing about the aftermath of storms like this is how a residential neighborhood quickly bonds and shares resources. Hope you have the same experience with your neighbors as I did with mine.

I'm on my phone now, actually getting the stink eye from my GF for slacking... We've got power and Internet back, luckily, but it's random where it's on and where it's not... Everyone is helping where they can, unless, like me, they're self absorbed dunces...

We get huge storms like this a lot, our power and utilities have a pretty good record of survival.

Everyone is grateful to be okay and it's nice to be reminded what's important, even if it takes billions of dollars of damage to do it.

[golfinaspen]

Norwalk Cove Marina is in good shape. We were able to walk in late yesterday as the police had the access shut down due to flooding. The high water mark was about four feet on the service building wall and the debris all over was amazing. All docks are intact but it was close. A floating dock across the channel is trashed.
One boat with long spring lines floated over the road but when the water recessed it floated back, however, the spray of gravel from the breakwater left its port side looking like it took 500 rounds of 50 caliber machine gun fire.

Boats on the hard seemed to be ok but there will be a lot plastic wrap to reapply.

All in all very lucky.

[Punani Jackson]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Stamford lost the pier and dockhouse. Floating docks were miraculously still there, but you couldn't get to them to see what shape they were in. The sand/leaf line on the front lawn got to within 5 ft of the clubhouse and stopped. About 2 feet of sand in the lower lot. They had moved all the launches and RC boat up behind the huricane barrier, so they should be okay.

CIYC lost their pier (again) and sustained significant flooding in the basement of the club. Sounds like all the boats on the hard fared ok. Stuyvesant YC had somewhere around 20 boats topple over in the yard. I'm not sure about damage to the club, however. Consolidated Yachts lost one of their piers and also saw some boats knocked of their poppets in the yard.

That's all I have for now.

[DryArmour]

Mark, ocean, sand from surge...

Wind driven sand was non issue, surge on astronomical tide... 20' waves- etc etc.

I'll get you actual elevations for research purposes shortly. I've got good info from this one.. I'll email you some stuff later

USA THAT* is exactly why I am asking and appreciate your feedback very much. Just guessing but I am thinking you are below 9 feet below sea level.

Hope things get better soon. Some minor good news is that the Nor' Easter that looked to be forming next week is headed offshore in the latest model runs...

[House Salad]

^{Anybody know how McMichael's Rushmore Yard and Marina fared in Mamaroneck, NY?}

[tweisleder]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

[DryArmour]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

That is some great footage. The images really tell the story but if you have time and think it is worthwhile could you do a voice over explaining what we are looking at and maybe what was there before versus what is left? Not being callus mind you but trying to best asses high level marks and how far inland the storm surge came. Very sorry this happened to your town and I know the people are resilient and life will get back to near normal in the next year.

[dolphinmaster]

Mark, ocean, sand from surge...

Wind driven sand was non issue, surge on astronomical tide... 20' waves- etc etc.

I'll get you actual elevations for research purposes shortly. I've got good info from this one.. I'll email you some stuff later

USA THAT* is exactly why I am asking and appreciate your feedback very much. Just guessing but I am thinking you are below 9 feet below sea level.

Hope things get better soon. Some minor good news is that the Nor' Easter that looked to be forming next week is headed offshore in the latest model runs...

Mark, thanks for your contributions and putting up with the nabygabblers, Rick

[tweisleder]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

That is some great footage. The images really tell the story but if you have time and think it is worthwhile could you do a voice over explaining what we are looking at and maybe what was there before versus what is left? Not being callus mind you but trying to best asses high level marks and how far inland the storm surge came. Very sorry this happened to your town and I know the people are resilient and life will get back to near normal in the next year.

Mark

There was complete flooding from bay to ocean. The open shots in the you tube video with the high water is 1/2 mile from the ocean. Bay Head is the beginning of the barrier islands in NJ.

Most of these homes are second homes and some have been there since I can remember and some have been redone. The tide was so high that you cant tell the road from the beach in the aerial shots. My folks house which is on the bay side as of yesterday late afternoon still had approx 4' of water in the first floor. So we had massive surge on the ocean side and massive high tide on the bay side and they met. Homes were moved, there is an island (really a giant dune) about 1,000 yards from my folks place.....there is now a house sitting on it.....it wasnt there before.

If you look at the second video link, it starts in Pt Pleasant Beach where a lot of TV people were stationed and then goes south to Bay Head and then to Mantoloking where there is the bridge and the complete breach of the bay and ocean. Many homes there have been either wiped out or moved. Its really bad. I have some other video from friends walking and talking and the anguish in their voice is heart breaking.

Thankfully no one has died in the town, its just property loss and that can be rebuilt.








That is the main road Rt 35 running north and south that connects all the shore towns between Bay Head and Seaside. That would be the ocean flowing through the middle. This pic is facing south at Lyman St and Rt 35.

[USA190520]

Saw that one... It'll be more of a pain in tve ass than anything... The coast up by LBI is gone.. Any swell will be disaster to them, there's new inlets to back bays that never existed, the tide is ripping through em like a river...

The eye was 15 miles north of me...a bit farther south than I expected, I had it making landfall above AC. That said the predominant wind here was N, backing to NNW-W-SSW at 60-70.. The eye arrived 4 hours early and combined with the offshore wind, spared us the worst case scenereo. A mere 10mi north and it's carnage.

I second gfs and euro models as well as predict wind and NOAA radars for helping to track and predict this storm.

We just missed being wiped off the map. That said, lots of friends are homeless and or are unable to return to their homes due to inaccessiblity. Our doors are open.

[OBW]

Saw that one... It'll be more of a pain in tve ass than anything... The coast up by LBI is gone.. Any swell will be disaster to them, there's new inlets to back bays that never existed, the tide is ripping through em like a river...

The eye was 15 miles north of me...a bit farther south than I expected, I had it making landfall above AC. That said the predominant wind here was N, backing to NNW-W-SSW at 60-70.. The eye arrived 4 hours early and combined with the offshore wind, spared us the worst case scenereo. A mere 10mi north and it's carnage.

I second gfs and euro models as well as predict wind and NOAA radars for helping to track and predict this storm.

We just missed being wiped off the map. That said, lots of friends are homeless and or are unable to return to their homes due to inaccessiblity. Our doors are open.

Was thinking about you as I watched the storm go over top of you. Give a call if I can do anything for ya

[jesposito]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Stamford lost the pier and dockhouse. Floating docks were miraculously still there, but you couldn't get to them to see what shape they were in. The sand/leaf line on the front lawn got to within 5 ft of the clubhouse and stopped. About 2 feet of sand in the lower lot. They had moved all the launches and RC boat up behind the huricane barrier, so they should be okay.

CIYC lost their pier (again) and sustained significant flooding in the basement of the club. Sounds like all the boats on the hard fared ok. Stuyvesant YC had somewhere around 20 boats topple over in the yard. I'm not sure about damage to the club, however. Consolidated Yachts lost one of their piers and also saw some boats knocked of their poppets in the yard.

That's all I have for now.

CIYC looked like a Moose got loose and ran wild

[USA190520]

Saw that one... It'll be more of a pain in tve ass than anything... The coast up by LBI is gone.. Any swell will be disaster to them, there's new inlets to back bays that never existed, the tide is ripping through em like a river...

The eye was 15 miles north of me...a bit farther south than I expected, I had it making landfall above AC. That said the predominant wind here was N, backing to NNW-W-SSW at 60-70.. The eye arrived 4 hours early and combined with the offshore wind, spared us the worst case scenereo. A mere 10mi north and it's carnage.

I second gfs and euro models as well as predict wind and NOAA radars for helping to track and predict this storm.

We just missed being wiped off the map. That said, lots of friends are homeless and or are unable to return to their homes due to inaccessiblity. Our doors are open.

Was thinking about you as I watched the storm go over top of you. Give a call if I can do anything for ya

Thanks mate, luckily we were spared most of the worst. Looks like you got some flooding too..

I'm headed up the coast later to assess some damage for some friends, that is, if I can get on their respective islands... Cheers

[Touch of Gray]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

Bad shit. Thanks for the post. My ancestral home built by my Grandfather in 1910 shows up in these at 32 North Street. Looks like she came through OK but I bet flooded inside. The house at the ocean end that survived (south side) was built after the old place that was there slipped into the ocean after the May '62 storm (fifty year anniversary!) and was one of the first examples of "hurricane proofing" in the US by building on piling and having a blow out "fused" lower level. Where did the house to the north end up?

Also interesting to note that the old seawall built along the southern part of town did a pretty good job, even though topped, it stayed intact. The north end relied on the dunes (once again) and wasn't so successful.

TOG

[tweisleder]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

Bad shit. Thanks for the post. My ancestral home built by my Grandfather in 1910 shows up in these at 32 North Street. Looks like she came through OK but I bet flooded inside. The house at the ocean end that survived (south side) was built after the old place that was there slipped into the ocean after the May '62 storm (fifty year anniversary!) and was one of the first examples of "hurricane proofing" in the US by building on piling and having a blow out "fused" lower level. Where did the house to the north end up?

Also interesting to note that the old seawall built along the southern part of town did a pretty good job, even though topped, it stayed intact. The north end relied on the dunes (once again) and wasn't so successful.

TOG

Yes, houses on piling faired better and the rocks saved the homes...the houses in manto are toast.

Funny I think friends of ours now own the house 32 north...they are the north east corner of main and north.

[Dixie]

Anyone heard from Rail Meat? If I recall correctly, his yard was flooded in Irene and his club took quite a bit of damage.

[Punani Jackson]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Stamford lost the pier and dockhouse. Floating docks were miraculously still there, but you couldn't get to them to see what shape they were in. The sand/leaf line on the front lawn got to within 5 ft of the clubhouse and stopped. About 2 feet of sand in the lower lot. They had moved all the launches and RC boat up behind the huricane barrier, so they should be okay.

CIYC lost their pier (again) and sustained significant flooding in the basement of the club. Sounds like all the boats on the hard fared ok. Stuyvesant YC had somewhere around 20 boats topple over in the yard. I'm not sure about damage to the club, however. Consolidated Yachts lost one of their piers and also saw some boats knocked of their poppets in the yard.

That's all I have for now.

CIYC looked like a Moose got loose and ran wild

I know it's been a long time since there was a moose sighting there. Maybe he's back. Just in time for the awards luncheon.

[Turtle]

Anyone heard from Rail Meat? If I recall correctly, his yard was flooded in Irene and his club took quite a bit of damage.

He's fine. This is what he told me in an email yesterday....
"Mystic has a couple of trees draped over the barn and carriage house, but the house is fine. And Dragon is still floating."

[DA-WOODY]

Anyone heard from Rail Meat? If I recall correctly, his yard was flooded in Irene and his club took quite a bit of damage.

He's fine. This is what he told me in an email yesterday....
"Mystic has a couple of trees draped over the barn and carriage house, but the house is fine. And Dragon is still floating."

Dito Solo

[SC Finnster]

Saw that one... It'll be more of a pain in tve ass than anything... The coast up by LBI is gone.. Any swell will be disaster to them, there's new inlets to back bays that never existed, the tide is ripping through em like a river...

The eye was 15 miles north of me...a bit farther south than I expected, I had it making landfall above AC. That said the predominant wind here was N, backing to NNW-W-SSW at 60-70.. The eye arrived 4 hours early and combined with the offshore wind, spared us the worst case scenereo. A mere 10mi north and it's carnage.

I second gfs and euro models as well as predict wind and NOAA radars for helping to track and predict this storm.

We just missed being wiped off the map. That said, lots of friends are homeless and or are unable to return to their homes due to inaccessiblity. Our doors are open.

Was thinking about you as I watched the storm go over top of you. Give a call if I can do anything for ya

Thanks mate, luckily we were spared most of the worst. Looks like you got some flooding too..

I'm headed up the coast later to assess some damage for some friends, that is, if I can get on their respective islands... Cheers

Just remember to be careful. After Hugo a lot of the worst injuries happened during the clean up. Looks like less wind damage so you will probably have less chainsaw and falling off roof injuries; but I can tell you from experience that when you are shoveling wet mud and an electrical outlet comes to life things get interesting in a hurry.

[er111a]

No damage here in Chestertown, MD.

[SailRacer]

Looking for info on Long Beach Island including High Bar Harbor.
National Guard says my parents MAY be able to get back there on Sat or Sun..

Stay safe!

[kent_island_sailor]

After Floyd the neighbors were hacksawing away on power lines that were across our road. Lucky for them no one turned it back on!

[Kack]

Mostly stinkpots but damn!!!

http://www.noreast.c...D=189058&page=9

[Hobie Dog]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

Bad shit. Thanks for the post. My ancestral home built by my Grandfather in 1910 shows up in these at 32 North Street. Looks like she came through OK but I bet flooded inside. The house at the ocean end that survived (south side) was built after the old place that was there slipped into the ocean after the May '62 storm (fifty year anniversary!) and was one of the first examples of "hurricane proofing" in the US by building on piling and having a blow out "fused" lower level. Where did the house to the north end up?

Also interesting to note that the old seawall built along the southern part of town did a pretty good job, even though topped, it stayed intact. The north end relied on the dunes (once again) and wasn't so successful.

TOG

Yes, houses on piling faired better and the rocks saved the homes...the houses in manto are toast.

Funny I think friends of ours now own the house 32 north...they are the north east corner of main and north.

Dude you are pretty hard core to be out there on a surf board in that shit! I guess you were alone?

Best of luck on the cleanup and rebuild, looks like you guys got a lot of hard work ahead of you...

[Crabtown]

From the local news...http://www.app.com/v...dy-shore-damage

[Crabtown]

Photos...http://www.app.com/a...&nclick_check=1

marina on bay side of Seaside No more fun at Fun Town

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[Left Hook]

Anyone heard from Rail Meat? If I recall correctly, his yard was flooded in Irene and his club took quite a bit of damage.

Classmates of mine who are from there were talking about Mystic CT still being in bad shape today. Best wishes for Mike and Dragon.

[Crabtown]

Mantaloking Bridge over north end of Barnegat Bay aerial view. Ocean flowing into bay. Imagine boats underway are rescue personnel as the Mathis/Tunney bridge to the south is inaccessible due to flooding on Rt 37.

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[tenders]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

The yards at the Harlem Yacht Club (another HYC) on City Island are in good shape with the yard cart, forklift, and launches safe and secure. The dock is still in place, though it looks like it was stressed in some areas. All the boats in the parking lot and the farm are perfectly fine to the point of looking undisturbed; I couldn't find a high water mark anywhere although there is trash strewn about and one overturned dumpster. A handful of boats remain on the moorings and they looked secure, though unfortunately one member's J24 left her mooring during the storm and hasn't yet been found.

The club buildings sustained some damage, which was already communicated to the members. It is, to my eye, a fraction of what could have been, and what others have been dealt, and seems to be quite repairable.

Seeing the boats toppled like dominoes at the Stuyvesant raised a lump in my throat. Here's hoping that most of the damage done there was to gelcoat; I think that is a possibility.

NOTE: Access to City Island was normal. Tree damage I could see on the drive through Pelham Park was mild. Most of the streets were clear and a street sweeper was going down Ditmar picking up residual mud.

[tweisleder]

Here are some videos of Bay Head and Mantoloking NJ, at the top of the bay.




http://www.dvidshub....ts#.UJE-Hmk-tsN

The above link is from the NJ National Guard, check out where the Ocean and Bay met creating total devastation.



Really sad stuff....most of the homes in this area are trashed...many homes on the beach destroyed or even gone....

Bad shit. Thanks for the post. My ancestral home built by my Grandfather in 1910 shows up in these at 32 North Street. Looks like she came through OK but I bet flooded inside. The house at the ocean end that survived (south side) was built after the old place that was there slipped into the ocean after the May '62 storm (fifty year anniversary!) and was one of the first examples of "hurricane proofing" in the US by building on piling and having a blow out "fused" lower level. Where did the house to the north end up?

Also interesting to note that the old seawall built along the southern part of town did a pretty good job, even though topped, it stayed intact. The north end relied on the dunes (once again) and wasn't so successful.

TOG

Yes, houses on piling faired better and the rocks saved the homes...the houses in manto are toast.

Funny I think friends of ours now own the house 32 north...they are the north east corner of main and north.

Dude you are pretty hard core to be out there on a surf board in that shit! I guess you were alone?

Best of luck on the cleanup and rebuild, looks like you guys got a lot of hard work ahead of you...

yea no that was NOT me. Someone else's video. I believe it has credits at the end.

[dacapo]

Any news on how the WLIS clubs fared?

Stamford lost the pier and dockhouse. Floating docks were miraculously still there, but you couldn't get to them to see what shape they were in. The sand/leaf line on the front lawn got to within 5 ft of the clubhouse and stopped. About 2 feet of sand in the lower lot. They had moved all the launches and RC boat up behind the huricane barrier, so they should be okay.

CIYC lost their pier (again) and sustained significant flooding in the basement of the club. Sounds like all the boats on the hard fared ok. Stuyvesant YC had somewhere around 20 boats topple over in the yard. I'm not sure about damage to the club, however. Consolidated Yachts lost one of their piers and also saw some boats knocked of their poppets in the yard.

That's all I have for now.

and Tony's deep fried everything burned down...

[ptodak]

One side of Newport and the other on Monday

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[Tom Ray]

One side of Newport and the other on Monday

Those would look better if accompanied by German knockers of recent vintage.

[Snaggletooth]

One side of Newport and the other on Monday

Those would look better if accompanied by German knockers of recent vintage.

Niseste requeste evere!!

[Reht]

Further Updates that I can gather from facebook:

Oakcliff sailing center: All of the swedish match 40's sunk.
Raritan YC: all boats, buildings, gin pole, fences, gas/diesel tanks, locker rooms, stairs to clubhouse gone. Supports to 1st & 2nd floor decks comprised. Perth Amboy Marina almost a total loss.
Some houses burned in Greenwich.
Larchmont: Flooding & damage in the pool area, unclear as to what else has been damaged.
Cedar Point YC: All fine but for some dinghies which went on walkabout & were recovered. Lots of erosion.

Carina & Kevin, what's the story at AYC? Anyone have further info on Larchmont and the boats at other clubs?

Last I heard from Carina they're all ok and are waiting on power to come back. Didn't sound like AYC came out in great shape though, boats off their poppets, asphalt got pushed apart, I'm sure we'll get a full debrief as soon as they get power back.

[mr_ryano]

Further Updates that I can gather from facebook:

Oakcliff sailing center: All of the swedish match 40's sunk.
Raritan YC: all boats, buildings, gin pole, fences, gas/diesel tanks, locker rooms, stairs to clubhouse gone. Supports to 1st & 2nd floor decks comprised. Perth Amboy Marina almost a total loss.
Some houses burned in Greenwich.
Larchmont: Flooding & damage in the pool area, unclear as to what else has been damaged.
Cedar Point YC: All fine but for some dinghies which went on walkabout & were recovered. Lots of erosion.

Carina & Kevin, what's the story at AYC? Anyone have further info on Larchmont and the boats at other clubs?

Last I heard from Carina they're all ok and are waiting on power to come back. Didn't sound like AYC came out in great shape though, boats off their poppets, asphalt got pushed apart, I'm sure we'll get a full debrief as soon as they get power back.

They had just finished rebuilding after Irene too......

[DryArmour]

And this from Jeff Master's blog-

The immensity of the impact of Superstorm Sandy on the Eastern U.S. is difficult to comprehend, and the scenes of devastation coming from the impact zone are stunning and heart-wrenching. To help understand the extraordinary scale of this historic storm, I've put together a list of notable statistics from Sandy:

Death toll: 160 (88 in the U.S., 54 in Haiti, 11 in Cuba)

Damage estimates: $10 - $55 billion

Power outages: 8.5 million U.S. customers, 2nd most for a natural disaster behind the 1993 blizzard (10 million)

Maximum U.S. sustained winds: 69 mph at Westerly, RI

Peak U.S. wind gusts: 90 mph at Islip, NY and Tompkinsville, NJ

Maximum U.S. storm surge: 9.45', Bergen Point, NJ 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum U.S. Storm Tide: 14.60', Bergen Point, NJ, 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum wave height: 33.1' at the buoy east of Cape Hatteras, NC (2nd highest: 32.5' at the Entrance to New York Harbor)

Maximum U.S. rainfall: 12.55", Easton, MD

Maximum snowfall: 36", Richwood, WV

Minimum pressure: 945.5 mb, Atlantic City, NJ at 7:24 pm EST, October 29, 2012. This is the lowest pressure measured in the U.S., at any location north of Cape Hatteras, NC (previous record: 946 mb in the 1938 hurricane on Long Island, NY) Our WxRouting forecast a week before was for 945mb. At least the GFS got that part right on the nose...

Destructive potential of storm surge: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6, highest of any hurricane observed since 1969. Previous record: 5.6 on a scale of 0 to 6, set during Hurricane Isabel of 2003.

Diameter of tropical storm-force winds at landfall: 945 miles

Diameter of ocean with 12' seas at landfall: 1500 miles

[Reht]

Holy crap. Those numbers are mind blowing...

[Asymptote]

And this from Jeff Master's blog-

The immensity of the impact of Superstorm Sandy on the Eastern U.S. is difficult to comprehend, and the scenes of devastation coming from the impact zone are stunning and heart-wrenching. To help understand the extraordinary scale of this historic storm, I've put together a list of notable statistics from Sandy:

Death toll: 160 (88 in the U.S., 54 in Haiti, 11 in Cuba)

Damage estimates: $10 - $55 billion

Power outages: 8.5 million U.S. customers, 2nd most for a natural disaster behind the 1993 blizzard (10 million)

Maximum U.S. sustained winds: 69 mph at Westerly, RI

Peak U.S. wind gusts: 90 mph at Islip, NY and Tompkinsville, NJ

Maximum U.S. storm surge: 9.45', Bergen Point, NJ 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum U.S. Storm Tide: 14.60', Bergen Point, NJ, 9:24 pm EDT October 29, 2012

Maximum wave height: 33.1' at the buoy east of Cape Hatteras, NC (2nd highest: 32.5' at the Entrance to New York Harbor)

Maximum U.S. rainfall: 12.55", Easton, MD

Maximum snowfall: 36", Richwood, WV

Minimum pressure: 945.5 mb, Atlantic City, NJ at 7:24 pm EST, October 29, 2012. This is the lowest pressure measured in the U.S., at any location north of Cape Hatteras, NC (previous record: 946 mb in the 1938 hurricane on Long Island, NY) Our WxRouting forecast a week before was for 945mb. At least the GFS got that part right on the nose...

Destructive potential of storm surge: 5.8 on a scale of 0 to 6, highest of any hurricane observed since 1969. Previous record: 5.6 on a scale of 0 to 6, set during Hurricane Isabel of 2003.

Diameter of tropical storm-force winds at landfall: 945 miles

Diameter of ocean with 12' seas at landfall: 1500 miles

Not to nitpick, but I believe the surge was reported to be higher at Kings Point, NY. Perhaps that 9'+ surge number is for the open ocean, not an inland water "funnel".

[Mung Breath]

Further Updates that I can gather from facebook:

Oakcliff sailing center: All of the swedish match 40's sunk.
Raritan YC: all boats, buildings, gin pole, fences, gas/diesel tanks, locker rooms, stairs to clubhouse gone. Supports to 1st & 2nd floor decks comprised. Perth Amboy Marina almost a total loss.
Some houses burned in Greenwich.
Larchmont: Flooding & damage in the pool area, unclear as to what else has been damaged.
Cedar Point YC: All fine but for some dinghies which went on walkabout & were recovered. Lots of erosion.

Carina & Kevin, what's the story at AYC? Anyone have further info on Larchmont and the boats at other clubs?

Last I heard from Carina they're all ok and are waiting on power to come back. Didn't sound like AYC came out in great shape though, boats off their poppets, asphalt got pushed apart, I'm sure we'll get a full debrief as soon as they get power back.

Word from the AYC' GM is that the clubhouse itself is ok and hoping to re-open for lunch Friday. Grounds, etc. are a different matter.

[Reht]

Good to hear the building survived, sucks about the grounds. Testament to whoever designed/built that clubhouse and the staff and members of AYC that it has now survived 2 big storms in (relatively) close succession. Let's hope that it for a while.