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#1 Lawrence

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:52 AM

Has Virbac Paprec (and other boats) still got the trim tab?

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:11 AM

do you mean the interceptor (short straight edge at the back of the boat lowered adn raised to change for/aft trim?)? Only gamesa has an interceptor, these are now banned for new boats but was grandfathered on Gamesa (and aviva). I am not aware of any boats having trim tabs on the keel (and I am not sure I would see the point of one).

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

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Saw this a few months ago but there doesn't seem to be anyevidence of it in any recent photos. I havn't seen the Gamesa one.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

It is Virbac Paprec 2.
Now JPD sails with Virbac Paprec 3.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

I was sure that was 3. That clears it up.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

So has Jean Le Cam kept the trim tab/interceptor/planing board?
Has anyone got any pictures of Gamesa's trim tab?

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

Gamesa has an interceptor rather than a trim tab, ie a small plate that is pushed down vertically.

I think (but am not certain) that the FNOB got rid of the trim tab on Renault (now Jean Le Cam's boat)

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:59 PM

Who's got Virbac 2? I miss read the site when it said Renault, sister ship to Virbac2.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:32 PM

Last time it raced under Estrella Damm.

Now used in movie with DCNS

http://www.histoired...des 60'/E42.htm

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

Last time it raced under Estrella Damm.

Now used in movie with DCNS

http://www.histoired...des 60'/E42.htm


I thought that DCNS was the boat they are using for the film - not the Estrella Damm.

Renault in the 2010 BWR is the old Gitana and is now Jean le Cam's boat.

Virbac 2 was Pepé and Alex's Estrella for the BWR 2010 and is still owned by the FNOB - I THINK

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:18 PM

The confusion comes because in 2009 / 2010, just after the TJV, Pachi had the Estrella sponsor and the Gitana boat. Pépé and Alex had Renault sponsor on the ex-Virbac boat.

For some reason the sponsor swapped the skippers over (Pachi to Renault and Pépé to Estrella) but as I understand it, Pépé and Alex didn't want to swap boats so they swapped the branding over instead.

No idea why all that happened. I just remember it being super confusing for a while there.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

Jean le Cam has chartered the boat for the VG.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:29 PM

I read someplace that the tab has been repaired and still used on the ex-Gitana 80 ex-Renault. Most did not like the weight associated with the flap, but my experience was that in the proper conditions and with it set at the optimum angle you could gain a significant speed increase.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:57 PM

For some reason, I thought the rule changes ended up outlawing new interceptors but grandfathered in the old ones. Could be wrong about that.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

You are right. The spaniard just did not like them, Mike still has his

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:06 PM

Merf and I spent the better part of a bottle of whiskey trying to figure out a way to make one work within the limits of the Class 40 rule.


The ideas got more interesting as we neared the bottom of the bottle.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:50 PM

For some reason, I thought the rule changes ended up outlawing new interceptors but grandfathered in the old ones. Could be wrong about that.

Think you are right.

http://www.whitecapltd.com/brokerage-all/artemis-ii.aspx

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:08 PM

In that DailySail walk thru vid with AT and MG, Mike said his boat was the only one in the race with a trim tab or interceptor. He also said it was the business...

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:24 AM

In that DailySail walk thru vid with AT and MG, Mike said his boat was the only one in the race with a trim tab or interceptor. He also said it was the business...


Correct re trim tab. As Potter just said, the one on Virbac 2 were taken off by Pepe and Alex.




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