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Winter musings on which way

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#1 condor

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

Reading Bill's thread about improving the Newport-Ensenada race got me thinking about the race some. So...


Some questions for the assembled multitudes.

Do you like in or out, or down the rhumb line?

What makes you go one way or the other? Weather forecast, fleet, what?

What has worked the best for you in the past? Why do you think it worked?


(dorag, this is about sailing...)

#2 bruno

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:32 PM

try to avoid the islands

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

Go just outside the Coronados. If the deck was wet when you got to the boat Friday morning, keep going and gybe in mid-morning/abeam of Salsipuedes. If deck was dry, gybe soon after Coronados. Vary routine depending on breeze/boat. Your mileage may vary

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

New Sign placed on North Coranado island

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DO NOT get Close Enough to Read !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:09 AM

Do not set a course through an island!

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

Get on the boat that has the best chance of finishing before sundown, or soon thereafter.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:03 AM

Fill up with fresh fuel at the gas dock before hitting the start line.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:56 AM

The tactics are completely different based on size of boat. For 50+ sled, simple: if forecast shows more breeze outside the whole way done, stay offshore. In 2012, we gybed 58 miles off of Ensenada and won 1st Overall/Fleet/ULDB etc. Stay in the pressure as long as you can.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:35 PM

The tactics are completely different based on size of boat. ....


This is what I think too.
For a 30' boat, It's very hard to get enough extra speed to make up the extra distance, i.e., justify going very far to either side. Rhumb line seems to work pretty well most of the time.

I like to shade going inside the Coronados, unless the westerly is still blowing, then outside to avoid the shadow. Of course, we see the Coronodos Saturday morning many times, hopefully with an offshore breeze...

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:05 PM

An emerging tactic for the cruisers is to either do an engine swap (say, to a full race Hemi), or to bolt on some horsepower to their installed Yamahas. The former option is expensive, but it does virtually ensure a NASBoat trophy that they can display on their mantles and show their friends. The downside is that the noise of those shorty headers as they rumble through the fleet would wake up all the sailors and annoy them. Theyw ill then toss empty beer cans at the offending NASBoat. Further, the nitrous oxide fumes would get troublesome if one is downwind (assuming, of course there is a wind...). Eyes will water and good judgement will be altered.

The latter option is less expensive and more discrete. A simple bolt on supercharger with fuel injection, combined with a reground cam and flow through exhaust would be just the ticket. Perhaps NOSA would be so kind as to use drag race christmas tree lights for the start so these folks are more comfortable.

For you low budget folks out there, a Mac26 is just the ticket. Until the big buck owners are attracted to the class and "game on," the Mac26 will get you a trophy. The year that two Mac 26s enter will be the beginning of the cost escalation and the horesepower wars. Believe me, I know all about cost wars, so trust me on this one.

So, here we have a fleet of NASBoats screaming down to Ensenada, speeds approaching 50 knots, lots of autohelms, lots of yelling, lots of facial hair, heading straight for the N Coronadao as God put this island in the way (intentionally, as He didn't want NOSA to dilute the event with cruisers). These NASBoat guys will ping pong off the rocks until the USCG gets tired of going out there. NOSA will be sued into oblivion and the N2E Race will be resurrected as, gasp,........a race!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:21 PM

Reading Bill's thread about improving the Newport-Ensenada race got me thinking about the race some. So...


Some questions for the assembled multitudes.

Do you like in or out, or down the rhumb line?

What makes you go one way or the other? Weather forecast, fleet, what?

What has worked the best for you in the past? Why do you think it worked?


(dorag, this is about sailing...)


What kind of boat?

#12 Oxygen Mask

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

a Mac26 is just the ticket. Until the big buck owners are attracted to the class and "game on," the Mac26 will get you a trophy. The year that two Mac 26s enter will be the beginning of the cost escalation and the horesepower wars.


Here's what the Big Guns will be sporting: http://www.seven-marine.com/motors/

#13 DoRag

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:26 PM


a Mac26 is just the ticket. Until the big buck owners are attracted to the class and "game on," the Mac26 will get you a trophy. The year that two Mac 26s enter will be the beginning of the cost escalation and the horesepower wars.


Here's what the Big Guns will be sporting: http://www.seven-marine.com/motors/


That's an interesting powerplant. Do you know if it can handle nitrous oxide? The NASBoat class needs to know....




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