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[floating dutchman]

I'll be the one carting Kids, wife and beer on my shoulders to Haulashore Island because I cannot afford air for the dingy either.

how much does it cost ?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

Yea, but I got a plan: If I get some decent breaze I'm going to take some air from the sails, I just hope some smug bugger doesn't sail on top of me and steal my air, I think that rowing a dink full of dirty air would be just difficult to row.

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Ha Ha, had him fooled. Outboard! Fucken thing started first pull every time.

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Yer, crappy phone photos. forgot camera.

Sorry fellas. Can't be bothered with the shit fight, hijacking a sailing forum with some sailing sure does have have a nice ring to it though.

I've just had a far to good of a family day mucking around on boats.

[Anomaly2]

hijacking a sailing forum with some sailing sure does have have a nice ring to it though.

Jeezus FD! Pay attention- this is a shit fight thread, what makes you think you can just go posting sailing photos any time you feel like it?

Oh, wait. SAILING.... yes, that's it you've jogged my memory. Carry on please.

[B.J. Porter]

God I hate all of the idiots on here who have their tongues half way up the arse of Bob Perry, He is a naval architect for christs sake. He didn't climb down from a friggin mountain with the definitave set of boat plans,,, or should I say "ARK" in his arms,,, chipped out of a granite plinth which fucked Aehimides the minute he saw them and that was even before he tried to lift them. No.. Bob perry paints pretty pictures and I am the first to say how pretty they are and that they work. What I am trying to say is that we all liveing a tiny world calle SA- Cruising Anarchy and that in this tiny world there is no space for Perries nor Vrold de Vigenvolds,. We are all sailors or we are all nothing. And if we post with nothing... Everybody receives exactly... (NOTHING) And as far as I am concerned.. Nothing means a lot if it costs nothing.

Although there is a "Cult of Bob" aspect to some of the threads here, I've never, ever gotten the impression that Bob himself either cultivates or demands any of that. He speaks up and says his bits, others respect his words. I appreciate his participation here and from what all I can see he's a regular enough guy.

Not being a boat design wonk myself I don't tend to jump into all those threads because they don't interest me. That being said, there IS a difference in response some times to those who are in those threads and are not. Not less polite or less of an answer, but sometimes less...gushingly effusive. It is what it is, there are certainly times when you feel less part of the 'in' crowd than others - but so what? I'm out cruising on my boat and don't have so much time to spend here to cultivate that anyway.

Or maybe it's just because you guys irritate and confuse me when you call Blackjenner "BJ" because that's my real name and I've been around longer!

[Tucky]

To get this thread back on track, your boat is longer. . . . . . . you must be richer

['No.6]

It's pretty clear you all miss Daniel Taylor...I blame BJ for that.

[austin1972]

Yeah! What Tucky said.
Screw Oregon - he's got nicer chainsaws and a better splitter than I do.
And screw Boomer - he actually knows how to use a camera.

I feel better.

[4knotSB]

A2, beautiful. I'm sure you appreciate that financial wealth should not be confused with being rich.

It does look pretty cool and sounds good in theory but a whole bunch of different sheet lines for each batten seems like a lot of work for little gain.

But then, I'm a catboat jib trimmer, so what do I know about a lot of work?

Just curious, is that mast hinged about 3 feet off the deck? It looks like it's made to drop to go under bridges.

[boomer]

That's what it looks like.

As for the subject of this thread, looks like the only ones that need to HTFU are the whiners.

[Cavelamb]

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You don't have to be a moron to make a typo.


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this thread is too SERIOUSLY funny !

Knotted knickers caused by ineffective sarcasm detectors and over zealous spelling nazis !

All started by a stinkboat owner who thinks cruising is firing up an outboard.

After too much sun and amber liquid, which he thinks is an antidote to the North Queensland sun.

For him, sailing is to be drinks boy on a pickle fork that fails to heel ...... since turtled !!!

As they say in the classics, you cannot make this shit up!


For me to visit a NA for some advice / consultation, is akin to " visiting " my lawyer

@ $75+ per hour...

Here we get it ALL in fine detail from Bob ( not bob / dug ) for FREE !

( except for the time waste factor attached to hanging around this place )


NO, I an NOT being sarcastic !

Yes, you are...


sar·casm (särkzm)n.
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm
n
1. mocking, contemptuous, or ironic language intended to convey scorn or insult
2. the use or tone of such language
[from Late Latin sarcasmus, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to rend the flesh, from sarx flesh]

[Anomaly2]

Just curious, is that mast hinged about 3 feet off the deck? It looks like it's made to drop to go under bridges.

No, technically, not hinged-- the mast pivots in a tabernacle. Yes, for shooting bridges, for reducing windage when anchored in a big blow, for doing masthead work while not aloft.... Read her blog for all the details of constructing the tabernacle and the (free-standing) hollow wooden mast. LOTS of food for thought

[boomer]

A long as we're getting technical, that's quite right.

[Ishmael]

Just curious, is that mast hinged about 3 feet off the deck? It looks like it's made to drop to go under bridges.

No, technically, not hinged-- the mast pivots in a tabernacle. Yes, for shooting bridges, for reducing windage when anchored in a big blow, for doing masthead work while not aloft.... Read her blog for all the details of constructing the tabernacle and the (free-standing) hollow wooden mast. LOTS of food for thought

Makes it much easier to work on the masthead, at least technically.

[Ravac]

Technically, if two or more components are attached together in such a way that one can pivot from the other, wouldn't that be a hinge?

No offense.

[boomer]

Technically it's a tabernacle,which is mechanical structural device with two sides which captures a component with a pin or shaft through all, which is the pivot point allowing a mast, boom, antenna, bar, plate, etc to pivot.

A hinged step has two interlocking metal leaves held by a pin about which they pivot.



Also of note:

A pivot point is a price level of significance in technical analysis of a financial market that is used by traders as a predictive indicator of market movement.

[Paps]

No prizes for guessing your choice!

[Elegua]

Oh no, we're back to High School Anarchy. It was so promising for about 5 posts.

[Dale dug a hole]

this thread is too SERIOUSLY funny !

Knotted knickers caused by ineffective sarcasm detectors and over zealous spelling nazis !

All started by a stinkboat owner who thinks cruising is firing up an outboard.

After too much sun and amber liquid, which he thinks is an antidote to the North Queensland sun.

For him, sailing is to be drinks boy on a pickle fork that fails to heel ...... since turtled !!!

As they say in the classics, you cannot make this shit up!


For me to visit a NA for some advice / consultation, is akin to " visiting " my lawyer

@ $75+ per hour...

Here we get it ALL in fine detail from Bob ( not bob / dug ) for FREE !

( except for the time waste factor attached to hanging around this place )


NO, I an NOT being sarcastic !

You are spot on Stranded.

You've got me down to a T.

Went from Airlie to Brisbane on that pickle fork.

When it went turtle, I was working, but had done two days of that event. on a mono even...

Cruiser, well. Rich white dude maybe...

yes currently I own a stink boat.

Have I cruised over the past years... well

[Jon Eisberg]

Bollocks
I don't need apologist posts on behalf of anonymous posters. Who the fuck do you think I am? An idiot who happened to stumble apon your little clique?. look at my posts for christs sake. I used to write for this rag. I even consulted Bob over possible cheats going on in the AC. Go back to being an idiot and dream of the perfect world... you won't find it here. HTFU. try it first and tell me if your balls are big enough to clang louder than Big Ben.
And now you may start toasting the pop-corn

I didn't so much think so before, but yes, now I think you're an idiot. And, I don't care who you are. Though you do seem very impressed with yourself, so I gather that you are a very important, knowledgeable, accomplished idiot.

Hmmm, I'm not certain the term "knowledgeable" necessarily applies...

He appears to believe the captain of the BOUNTY made "the right decision", and is being "blamed" unfairly for her loss, for example:

I see a fuck of a lot of criticism here but not a hell of a lot of experience talking. The captain was given the post because he was competent and not because he was a nary asshole. The captain was in charge of the boat and made a decision which; if you look at the charts from 3 days ago, was the right one (We're safer at sea than we are in a harbour). The tropical storm grew not in velocity but in size, (not even the forecasters can guess that one). The state of the boat to ride out such a storm and the estimated speed in which she would be able to skirt the storm are the only things in doubt, but, how many of us have had the shit hit the fan in a 22 footer,,,( never mind a near on 200 footer) and thought.. Shit, I am lucky to be here. Most of all. How many assholes are starting to shift the blame on an experienced skipper who have never gotten there feet wet apart from in a badly sailed Oppy?

[kent_island_sailor]

Gusmus is a character. Part of his shtick is that he has been out there and we haven't.
(don't let on - but some of us have and maybe more than once )

[boomer]

And screw Boomer - he actually knows how to use a camera.

I feel better.

Missed that one Austin....you can,too...just like anything else, a bit of time and practice.

[GybeSet®]

the mast on the yellow boat is a counterweighted device most unlike the next picture down

still a tabernacle

['No.6]

Gusmus is a character. Part of his shtick is that he has been out there and we haven't.
(don't let on - but some of us have and maybe more than once )

Out where?

[B.J. Porter]

Gusmus is a character. Part of his shtick is that he has been out there and we haven't.
(don't let on - but some of us have and maybe more than once )

Out where?

Outside the Environment.

['No.6]

BJ, you have to quit cold turkey. You can't go sailing and play on the interweb at the same time. The whole damn point is to step out of, to disconnect from the connected world and connect with the unconnected world. You are not broadening your horizons hanging around with this lot.
Now take it from me. I want you to collect all the tablets, laptops, Ipads and palm pilots you have stashed away on that boat...smuggled aboard like christmas chocolates and stashed away to satiate your sweet tooth. It doesn't work. You are a junkie. You need to heal yourself.
Take all those "devices", step out of your companionway, scream out to no one in particular that you are mad as hell and not going to take it any more..."I AM MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!", approach the rail and toss it all overboard. That's right, all of it. Cut the damn cord and go sailing already. This tooling around you are doing isn't sailing. It is some form of masturbation. Now go. Go sailing. Be off. Stop looking back. There is a whole beautiful world for you to see and explore and enjoy along with your family. Write a damn book if you want but get the fuk off the internet!

[B.J. Porter]

BJ, you have to quit cold turkey. You can't go sailing and play on the interweb at the same time. The whole damn point is to step out of, to disconnect from the connected world and connect with the unconnected world. You are not broadening your horizons hanging around with this lot.
Now take it from me. I want you to collect all the tablets, laptops, Ipads and palm pilots you have stashed away on that boat...smuggled aboard like christmas chocolates and stashed away to satiate your sweet tooth. It doesn't work. You are a junkie. You need to heal yourself.
Take all those "devices", step out of your companionway, scream out to no one in particular that you are mad as hell and not going to take it any more..."I AM MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!", approach the rail and toss it all overboard. That's right, all of it. Cut the damn cord and go sailing already. This tooling around you are doing isn't sailing. It is some form of masturbation. Now go. Go sailing. Be off. Stop looking back. There is a whole beautiful world for you to see and explore and enjoy along with your family. Write a damn book if you want but get the fuk off the internet!

Meh. Coming here...lot less of that lately.

In general - cut contact with the world? No - family and friends stay in touch with Skype, Facebook, the blog, etc. Contact with the kids teachers/schools via the internet, etc. etc. so we can't go Luddite cold turkey.

Sailing & cruising does not mean cutting the friends and family out of your life any more. That's not the point of this and it's not the desired effect.

Some days we have internet, some we don't. Some days I want to check in here, where I do in fact have people I consider friends that I've met in real life through this site, and say hello. It is what it is, the world has changed a lot since you made your loop around it.

[Dale dug a hole]

this thread is too SERIOUSLY funny !

Knotted knickers caused by ineffective sarcasm detectors and over zealous spelling nazis !

All started by a stinkboat owner who thinks cruising is firing up an outboard.

After too much sun and amber liquid, which he thinks is an antidote to the North Queensland sun.

For him, sailing is to be drinks boy on a pickle fork that fails to heel ...... since turtled !!!

As they say in the classics, you cannot make this shit up!


For me to visit a NA for some advice / consultation, is akin to " visiting " my lawyer

@ $75+ per hour...

Here we get it ALL in fine detail from Bob ( not bob / dug ) for FREE !

( except for the time waste factor attached to hanging around this place )


NO, I an NOT being sarcastic !

You are spot on Stranded.

You've got me down to a T.

Went from Airlie to Brisbane on that pickle fork.

When it went turtle, I was working, but had done two days of that event. on a mono even...

Cruiser, well. Rich white dude maybe...

yes currently I own a stink boat.

Have I cruised over the past years... well

Hmm, Imagine being on a fuckin boat that could turn turtle



PS Whats the problem with bring beer?

[kent_island_sailor]

Besides for all that, some of us stuck in a cube enjoy hearing about life in the islands.

BJ, you have to quit cold turkey. You can't go sailing and play on the interweb at the same time. The whole damn point is to step out of, to disconnect from the connected world and connect with the unconnected world. You are not broadening your horizons hanging around with this lot.
Now take it from me. I want you to collect all the tablets, laptops, Ipads and palm pilots you have stashed away on that boat...smuggled aboard like christmas chocolates and stashed away to satiate your sweet tooth. It doesn't work. You are a junkie. You need to heal yourself.
Take all those "devices", step out of your companionway, scream out to no one in particular that you are mad as hell and not going to take it any more..."I AM MAD AS HELL AND NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!", approach the rail and toss it all overboard. That's right, all of it. Cut the damn cord and go sailing already. This tooling around you are doing isn't sailing. It is some form of masturbation. Now go. Go sailing. Be off. Stop looking back. There is a whole beautiful world for you to see and explore and enjoy along with your family. Write a damn book if you want but get the fuk off the internet!

Meh. Coming here...lot less of that lately.

In general - cut contact with the world? No - family and friends stay in touch with Skype, Facebook, the blog, etc. Contact with the kids teachers/schools via the internet, etc. etc. so we can't go Luddite cold turkey.

Sailing & cruising does not mean cutting the friends and family out of your life any more. That's not the point of this and it's not the desired effect.

Some days we have internet, some we don't. Some days I want to check in here, where I do in fact have people I consider friends that I've met in real life through this site, and say hello. It is what it is, the world has changed a lot since you made your loop around it.

[boomer]

When we can follow races around the world and they as well use all that's available via the web to achieve their goal.

It would be ridiculous for a cruiser to not take advantage of the same viable assets.

['No.6]

Mmmmm, yes but that is because you are still here.
I think if you look at those who have set off over the course of time, that part of the goal was heading into the great unknown. The challenge of not really knowing what tomorrow will bring...to in some way go where no man has gone before.
BJ is taking his sweet ass time of escaping from the US. I know when we slipped the lines, we were out of the territorial US in less than 36 hours. Peddle down from NYC, out across Nantucket Shoals bound for Nova Scotia. Spent a week, maybe ten days there and bang, on our way to the Azores. Diddled around there for nearly a fortenight and it was on to the Med.
The point is, it isn't what you know and what is behind you. Once it passes the taffrail that is where it belongs, in your wake. I will say that even with that, the adventure didn't really begin for us until the Miraflores locks. Sure a couple of trans-Atlantics, bouncing around the Med, The Azores and Canaries...yada, yada, yada. Don't get me wrong, The Windwards were very lovely (I don't have much love for The Leewards) for the must part, but you really haven't gotten to the edge of the cliff until you are in Miraflores, looking out over the Pacific Ocean below, when it dawns on you what lies ahead. It has nothing to do with the internet, those you left behind, some group of teachers in Rhode Island, all that is the "whatever", the periphery, the din.

BJ, I take it you will do Christmas in The Caribbean, work your way down the windwards and come March head of the canal zone. Do I have that correct? Trust me when I tell you this, that is when it all changes. Your heart will start to pound as you set sail for Panama. Your eyes will be a little brighter. The anticipation a bit more palpable. What you think this is for you and your family right now, that will go right out the window and be replaced by the adventure of a lifetime. The Pacific Rim....that ring of fire and the constant smell of frangipani and a hint of sulfur, the realization that The Big Dipper has been replaced by The Southern Cross...dense stars from horizon to horizon.
Now just make sure and have a Big Mac for me in Papeete, the real cheeseburger in paradise. Not some lame ass Buffett song. You will understand when you get there...even if you don't like Mc D's, you will be lining up for seconds.

Now cut the damn cord.

[Go Fusta]

No. 6 ...would you shut up already! What an AW you are.

BJ (and anyone else), can sail when and where they want. Why do you friggen care about his timetable and itinerary? Seriously. Go get a life. Take the chip off your shoulder at the same time. Your post is truly pathetic.

What was appropriate or attractive as your "timetable" is not for everyone.
You sound like an absolute idiot trying to stir up a pissing contest.

Is this idiot week on CA?

[SereneSpeed]

Go Fusta, Go fuck yourself!

Your fist post and you're up the ass of someone who's been here from the begging? Really?

And furthermore... Where are the TITS???



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I dunno... I kinda see what no.6 is saying.

But I don't think BJ gives a shit about that, because his plan seems different.

I just don't want BJ to disconnect because I like reading his blog.

[Go Fusta]

Go Fusta, Go fuck yourself!

Your fist post and you're up the ass of someone who's been here from the begging? Really?

And furthermore... Where are the TITS???



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I dunno... I kinda see what no.6 is saying.
But I don't think BJ gives a shit about that, because his plan seems different.
I just don't want BJ to disconnect because I like reading his blog.

First post and I screwed up. Let me try to make amends. Something for almost everyone

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[Ryley]

mmm.. chicken.

Go Fusta, if you'd been around a while, you'd know that BJ has been fiddle-fucking his way toward departure for... a very long time. Ol' No.6 was just playin the role of momma bird trying to push the clingy, awkward one outta the nest.

['No.6]

Oh not to worry about Fusta (Hi Daniel!), he just doesn't get it. He doesn't understand that there are times frames involved, when you can jump and when you shouldn't. He doesn't understand the reality of the South Pacific, probably thinks the whole damn place is WiFi enabled.
As for BJ. He and I have always had seemingly contentious relationship. Goes back to the earliest days of SA. Not sure there is any real malice, more a bunch of tomfoolery. We have met and we have talked of sharing a few beers, just never found the moment. Over the course of time I have offered him advice on occassion, about what he is undertaking. Sincere advice, from experience. This is no different. As BJ and his family are faced with some very long passages, the sort where land slips over the horizon for more than a day or two. Where your world is reduced to the size of your boat and the passage of time, the days of the week slip your mind, only then will it become clear. This isn't something one can comprehend until it happens. Just the way it is.
Make no mistake. I am rooting for Evenstar. I trust when she is halfway to the Marquesas BJ will chuckle, call me a dick under his breath, and wonder what the hell day it is!

[Paps]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island Same in PI and Japan.

[B.J. Porter]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island Same in PI and Japan.

Low Risk Tolerance - that is how chains survive. Visiting the cousins for a wedding in Ottumwa and you don't want to get a bad meal on the drive? Denny's for breakfast, McD's for Lunch, Chili's for dinner...rotate your chains every day...is the way some people would approach it. We tend to drive off the beaten path looking for Ma's Diner or the place where the locals eat.

Didn't eat much McD's before (my kids can't stand it) so I don't see myself craving it.

Maybe some people it reminds them of home? Walked right by the Wendy's AND the McD's in St. Thomas the other day while I was starving for lunch. I can't see crossing oceans to eat the same crap you could get at home.

Now if they put a Five Guys in one of these places, that might be problematic...

[WHL]

BJ, can you make us all sick and envious and post a pic in your present anchorage ?

['No.6]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island Same in PI and Japan.

Low Risk Tolerance - that is how chains survive. Visiting the cousins for a wedding in Ottumwa and you don't want to get a bad meal on the drive? Denny's for breakfast, McD's for Lunch, Chili's for dinner...rotate your chains every day...is the way some people would approach it. We tend to drive off the beaten path looking for Ma's Diner or the place where the locals eat.

Didn't eat much McD's before (my kids can't stand it) so I don't see myself craving it.

Maybe some people it reminds them of home? Walked right by the Wendy's AND the McD's in St. Thomas the other day while I was starving for lunch. I can't see crossing oceans to eat the same crap you could get at home.

Now if they put a Five Guys in one of these places, that might be problematic...

I wasn't one for Mickey D's either BJ, but the golden arches will be calling you. Much the same way you will curse me when halfway to The Marquesas because you can't remember the day of the week it is, you will curse me when you line up in Papeete at McDonalds. I don't know why it is. A longing for home perhaps. The air of familiarity. Programmed by years of subliminal messages of corporate brainwashing. Whatever the reason, you will be drawn to it like a moth before a flame. When they ask if you want to supersize that order, you will experience an out of body like experience and suddenly hear yourself saying "YES PLEASE!"

[B.J. Porter]

BJ, can you make us all sick and envious and post a pic in your present anchorage ?

I could, but it would look like a black bear eating a chocolate bar during a solar eclipse, being night and all.

We are here:

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We set out this AM hoping to make St. Croix, however the forecast was for 20+ and 8ft+ seas so we weren't sure how it would work out. It worked out to gust closer to 30, so we sailed to St. John instead. Still a snotty beat, but shorter.

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Here's a shot of Evenstar from a famous BVI hangout...

[Trickypig]

Well it is Friday night, gotta work tomorrow

The old cunts are pissing me off a bit.

Respect and all that shit goes both ways.

You know Dale, I just spent 20 mins of my life reading through all your posts.

The `old cunts' are pissing you off are they? Oh I'm really sorry to hear that and maybe it's right that you show them your special brand of disrespect.

But prey tell us what you know about designing boats, building them, sailing them or racing them? I'd wager it's fuck all.

If I wanted to know about tinnies, V8 super cars, cane cutting and weight watchers then I'd probably value your posts; but since this forum is about cruising I got a big fat zero out of reading what you have to say.

`Old cunts' like Boomer and Bob Perry don't deserve your respect. Yeah right.

[Dale dug a hole]

Well Trickypig,


whatever...

[Rasputin22]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island Same in PI and Japan.

Low Risk Tolerance - that is how chains survive. Visiting the cousins for a wedding in Ottumwa and you don't want to get a bad meal on the drive? Denny's for breakfast, McD's for Lunch, Chili's for dinner...rotate your chains every day...is the way some people would approach it. We tend to drive off the beaten path looking for Ma's Diner or the place where the locals eat.

Didn't eat much McD's before (my kids can't stand it) so I don't see myself craving it.

Maybe some people it reminds them of home? Walked right by the Wendy's AND the McD's in St. Thomas the other day while I was starving for lunch. I can't see crossing oceans to eat the same crap you could get at home.

Now if they put a Five Guys in one of these places, that might be problematic...

I was told when cruising in Jamaica and stopped in Montego Bay, that the Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise there is the biggest in the world. In a place where you can get the real deal, Jerk Chicken Jamaican Style at any little roadside stand the tourists (and locals) will eat the flash frozen, pre-breaded crap flown in from the corporate slaughter houses in Ga or Arkansas. Go figure...

[Weyalan]

It is the same everywhere I go in the world. Experiencing the local cuisine is a major part of the fun of visiting other corners of the planet. If you want to eat franchised crap, stay home, I reckon. The whole point of travel (for me, at least) is to get out of one's comfort zone. I don't want to eat the familiar and the normal... I'll get plenty of that when I get back home!

[austin1972]

That's messed up. That's like going to Memphis or Kansas City and getting a McRib 'sandwich'.

[VALIS]

JFC, you guys are acting like it's the end of the world if someone wants to have a familiar hamburger. You can satisfy a craving for the familiar, and still get to sample the local delicacies -- it's not as if that's the only meal you're going to have!

And sometimes the McD's do change their menu to accommodate local tastes. When I Finland I had a "McRuiz" hamburger, just to see what it was like (Ruiz = rye). I've had a quarter-pounder in Papeete (where the customers were mostly locals), and eaten raw fish, scallops, and fermented cocoanut in the Tuamotu's. You don't have to go 100% native to enjoy the variety that's out there in the world.

I think 'No.6 knows what he's talking about.

[Great Red Shark]

And sometimes the McD's do change their menu to accommodate local tastes. When I Finland I had a "McRuiz" hamburger, just to see what it was like (Ruiz = rye). I've had a quarter-pounder in Papeete (where the customers were mostly locals),

Nah, that'd the Royale, they got the metric system - they don't know what the fuck a quarter-pound is..."

[Weyalan]

JFC, you guys are acting like it's the end of the world if someone wants to have a familiar crappy hamburger.

Sure, different strokes for different folks. Me; I don't eat franchised fast food at home, let alone abroad. YMMV.

[Ishmael]

I really want an Egg McMuffin right now. With lots of ketchup and one of those Hash Brown thingies. With lots of ketchup.

[boomer]

I prefer to pack my own lunch...preferably with leftovers from the previous night.

But...when we're on the hard in Port Townsend and it's lunchtime, my dogs like it when I treat them to a couple 1/4 pounders with cheese.

[floating dutchman]

Oh fuck would you guys stop talking about food. I'm vomiting enough as it is. Got a bad tummy bug.

Dam kids ARE disease carrying vermin.

[Dale dug a hole]

Oh fuck would you guys stop talking about food. I'm vomiting enough as it is. Got a bad tummy bug.

Dam kids ARE disease carrying vermin.

What the hell have you got to worry about...

I killed CA! Because I mentioned the Elephant that was in the room.

I really do enjoy a sausage and egg Mcmuffin, but sorry Ish you can keep the sauce.

[Paps]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island Same in PI and Japan.

Low Risk Tolerance - that is how chains survive. Visiting the cousins for a wedding in Ottumwa and you don't want to get a bad meal on the drive? Denny's for breakfast, McD's for Lunch, Chili's for dinner...rotate your chains every day...is the way some people would approach it. We tend to drive off the beaten path looking for Ma's Diner or the place where the locals eat.

Didn't eat much McD's before (my kids can't stand it) so I don't see myself craving it.

Maybe some people it reminds them of home? Walked right by the Wendy's AND the McD's in St. Thomas the other day while I was starving for lunch. I can't see crossing oceans to eat the same crap you could get at home.

Now if they put a Five Guys in one of these places, that might be problematic...

Yeah I know what you mean. The guy we stayed with when we arrived in LA was on that rotation, permanently. I found a place called the "big yellow basket" ?? Real deal Burgers and steak, eggs and fresh hash browns all day breakfast.

[olaf hart]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island :blink:/> Same in PI and Japan.

Low Risk Tolerance - that is how chains survive. Visiting the cousins for a wedding in Ottumwa and you don't want to get a bad meal on the drive? Denny's for breakfast, McD's for Lunch, Chili's for dinner...rotate your chains every day...is the way some people would approach it. We tend to drive off the beaten path looking for Ma's Diner or the place where the locals eat.

Didn't eat much McD's before (my kids can't stand it) so I don't see myself craving it.

Maybe some people it reminds them of home? Walked right by the Wendy's AND the McD's in St. Thomas the other day while I was starving for lunch. I can't see crossing oceans to eat the same crap you could get at home.

Now if they put a Five Guys in one of these places, that might be problematic...

I'm with you all the way, but not the chilli dog.
When I am in the states, I love the chili dog.

['No.6]

Y'all make it sound like doing a lap is like being on holiday. It ain't. You can only eat so much goat and coconut stew. Took me a whole decade after returning to the states before I could face eating a damn banana!

[boomer]

You can only eat so much goat

I don't ever want to eat goat again or drink goat milk.

I know this for a fact after raising them and milking them for years.

[B.J. Porter]

Y'all make it sound like doing a lap is like being on holiday. It ain't. You can only eat so much goat and coconut stew. Took me a whole decade after returning to the states before I could face eating a damn banana!

Who's doing a lap? I've no stated ambition to circumnavigate - if it happens it does, but really only likely to happen if something gets sorted in the Gulf of Oman in the next three years. Love to see South Africa, but there's not a whole lot of places to stop before or after it. If it's not looking safe and reasonable I've no problem looking at the Northern loop back through SE Asia and across the Pacific that way.

We're living here...this isn't a closed ended goal oriented process, except to be out here as long as we can. Our only sort of goal is to make Australia & NZ via the South Pacific some time before my fifteen year old heads off to college.

I suppose at some point I might miss McD's, but I didn't miss it when I had four of them in my home town and I never went.

So far though the Virgin Islands do feel like vacationing, not living. I'm not sure how easy it is to NOT be a tourist here, since tourism is such a part of the economy everything is geared to it and assumptions are made when the locals see you coming. So much of what is in the stores is catered to American charter boats you have to look to find places to shop that are not. You can buy frozen White Castles in the tiny market in Leverick Bay on Virgin Gorda.

We'll be on to Saint Martin some time around the new year.

[Ryley]

It is the same everywhere I go in the world. Experiencing the local cuisine is a major part of the fun of visiting other corners of the planet. If you want to eat franchised crap, stay home, I reckon. The whole point of travel (for me, at least) is to get out of one's comfort zone. I don't want to eat the familiar and the normal... I'll get plenty of that when I get back home!

I was in Prague when they opened their first (2) McDonald's. I admit eating at one of them, but not because I craved "american" food, but I wanted to see if there was any new take on an old chain. There wasn't.

[Ryley]

What the hell have you got to worry about...

I killed CA! Because I mentioned the Elephant that was in the room.

I really do enjoy a sausage and egg Mcmuffin, but sorry Ish you can keep the sauce.

My my someone is awfully full of themselves this morning! CA will be around a long time after you crawl back into that hole what you dug.

[boomer]

You didn't want to do that...now the grinch is gonna accuse everyone of picking on him and being grumpy.

[mad]

Go Fusta, Go fuck yourself!

Your fist post and you're up the ass of someone who's been here from the begging? Really?

And furthermore... Where are the TITS???

:)/>

~~~~~~

I dunno... I kinda see what no.6 is saying.
But I don't think BJ gives a shit about that, because his plan seems different.
I just don't want BJ to disconnect because I like reading his blog.

First post and I screwed up. Let me try to make amends. Something for almost everyone

Trolling Sock methinks.

[mad]

If we are talking about cutting the ties that bind how about starting with Big fucking Macs!! I was always mesmerised by cruising sailors lining up at Macdouchebags in foreign ports.

Why? I dont get it? Hong Kong the land of fabulous food from around the world and some cruisers would get on a bus for 20 mins to go to the only Mcd on the island :blink:/> Same in PI and Japan.

Never ever figured that either, so much good food and people still eat that shit. Hunting it down...well, each to their own.

[boomer]

My dog's eyes light up when they see a McD's.

[mad]

My dog's eyes light up when they see a McD's.

My dogs eyes light up when they see most food, they just don't get any 'human' food and definitley not that shit.
Jeez, I don't even eat that shit.

[Thorvald]

Well it is Friday night, gotta work tomorrow

The old cunts are pissing me off a bit.

Respect and all that shit goes both ways.

You know Dale, I just spent 20 mins of my life reading through all your posts.

The `old cunts' are pissing you off are they? Oh I'm really sorry to hear that and maybe it's right that you show them your special brand of disrespect.

But prey tell us what you know about designing boats, building them, sailing them or racing them? I'd wager it's fuck all.

If I wanted to know about tinnies, V8 super cars, cane cutting and weight watchers then I'd probably value your posts; but since this forum is about cruising I got a big fat zero out of reading what you have to say.

`Old cunts' like Boomer and Bob Perry don't deserve your respect. Yeah right.

Well Trickypig,


whatever...

Those that can, do. How's that hole coming Dale?

[boomer]

My dog's eyes light up when they see a McD's.

My dogs eyes light up when they see most food, they just don't get any 'human' food and definitley not that shit.
Jeez, I don't even eat that shit.

Mine are used to prime rib or rib steak...but they like McD's quarter pounders, though they prefer just about anything from Wendy's when we're on a trip.

[WHL]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

[Thorvald]

Great!

[boomer]

May as well keep mum on it.

[Ishmael]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

[oregonarchist]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

Or perhaps, oxygen...

[floating dutchman]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

How do you find out who has been suspended?

[blackjenner]

Well it is Friday night, gotta work tomorrow

The old cunts are pissing me off a bit.

Respect and all that shit goes both ways.

You know Dale, I just spent 20 mins of my life reading through all your posts.

The `old cunts' are pissing you off are they? Oh I'm really sorry to hear that and maybe it's right that you show them your special brand of disrespect.

But prey tell us what you know about designing boats, building them, sailing them or racing them? I'd wager it's fuck all.

If I wanted to know about tinnies, V8 super cars, cane cutting and weight watchers then I'd probably value your posts; but since this forum is about cruising I got a big fat zero out of reading what you have to say.

`Old cunts' like Boomer and Bob Perry don't deserve your respect. Yeah right.

Don't forget, we have soft cocks too.

I love internet bravery. It is so to laugh.

[boomer]

Don't forget, we have soft cocks too.

Ummm...speak for yourself on that one, the old ticker still keeps the pressure up.

BTW...You can call me old...but those who know me, know I'm far from grumpy....just saying....

[Leka]

This discussion makes me realise how far out in the jungle I am at the moment.

Bintulu, Borneo Malaysia (closest town to this project I am visiting) has just opened thier first McDonalds a few days ago.

I am not a big fan of the chain, but have been known to have a breakfast or 2 and a burger occasionally.

The line at the place has been crazy for days, with the drive through que literally out and up the road a half mile!!!!

For mine, a good plate of fried chicken feet and a century egg omlette in 'Old Town' is cheaper and tastier.

[blackjenner]

Don't forget, we have soft cocks too.

Ummm...speak for yourself on that one, the old ticker still keeps the pressure up.

BTW...You can call me old...but those who know me, know I'm far from grumpy....just saying....

Well, that is what he said we had, for various reasons (which made sense only to him). I think he was trying to equate this with saying we weren't real men or some such.

Like most internet cowards, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He likely thought I was insulted when he did it. I wasn't. This was for two reasons:

• He was fractally wrong on that guess.
• He obviously hasn't been peeking in my pilot house windows.

The plumbing works just fine, little boy. Just fine.

[Just Bob]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

Ish you are spot on.

[Ishmael]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

Ish you are spot on.

I'm glad you realize that Dale.

[Just Bob]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

Ish you are spot on.

I'm glad you realize that Dale.

But I will always say something when things start getting a bit one sided. It was a shame to see the mob mentality when somebody posted something that wasn't to 'The Groups' liking.

And I think some of the replies in this topic point that out, it wasn't only me that was seeing this happen.

Hopefully they have learnt something. Just think about it.

[SpongeDeckSquareFoil]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

Ish you are spot on.

I'm glad you realize that Dale.

But I will always say something when things start getting a bit one sided. It was a shame to see the mob mentality when somebody posted something that wasn't to 'The Groups' liking.

And I think some of the replies in this topic point that out, it wasn't only me that was seeing this happen.

Hopefully they have learnt something. Just think about it.

That's asking a lot from this group.

[Tim042]

See there's the problem with banning, the serial offender just reaches into the sock drawer. That is why I was trying to engage DT the last couple of go rounds, break the vicious cycle, maybe get him to make an actual contribution to the conversation. Probably a waste of electrons, but they are free. Life's too short to get upset over what someone posts on the internet.

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Yeh fair call,

I will continue to enjoy the site. And honestly I don't know if I'm a troll or just fucking blunt. I tend to swing with blunt.

Carry on

[Paps]

In your own "blunt" way you have opened a discussion and that can only be good. Why you need to do it in another voice I dont get so much.

[Just Bob]

In your own "blunt" way you have opened a discussion and that can only be good. Why you need to do it in another voice I dont get so much.

A change is as good as holiday. maybe

I like that icon

[floating dutchman]

Word on the street is that the Dale sock got flicked.

A colleague of mine once called me "as subtle as a bag of hammers" I took is as a compliment.

[Paps]

Were you exchanging head butts in the corner at the time Middle Islander?

[floating dutchman]

Can't remember exactly what is was about, but he was pissing me off at the time.

[GybeSet®]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

back already as Just Bob

don't put these dicks down to SA, they are from P & GA, generally landlubbers

[Just Bob]

The Hole just got suspended by the Ed

Won't change a thing. He'll be back, he'll attempt to be nice until he gets pissed up again and then the shit starts to fly. The only thing that might work would be to suspend his use of alcohol.

back already as Just Bob

don't put these dicks down to SA, they are from P & GA, generally landlubbers

Umm.

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